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I don't believe they're dumb story, that's for sure. But I didn't realize there was so much a at hand like it is, it is a huge rabbit hole in itself. And then the Mormons kept showing up randomly. I was like, why are these Mormons showing up randomly? Like? And so I kept looking into it further and found out, Yeah, there's a whole lot of things that have to pertain with that, especially where Howard Hughes is concerned. And Howard's fun deep dive on himself, So Howard's weird. So yeah,

that's gonna what got me into it. And now I've got about I would say four shows that I do that totally pertain to this, but like, wow, we separated them. Yeah, like we did the Seance of the Nine, we did Howard Hughes and the Mormon Mafia, and then there's Permanent X and RFK and the whole Andrea Puharovich that I was talking about. And then we have kind of a tie together because it goes to aliens. And I've never been an alien girl, but I was just like, what is happening? What is going on here?

this actually ties into that. When you said that to me earlier, it was like, holy fuck, this is awesome, cause it is like a very weird it's a very weird thing, and I've never really heard people really talk about it too much. I just happened to come across it in a book I read it about it in a book.

in the rabbit hole now that it's gotten weird. But and it gets into space, and it's really pertinent with today where they're gonna open up the JFK files and you know, President Trump's obsessed with space stuff. And it all kind of goes back together, Like every single time I'm researching some little tiny topic, I'm like, why are the Mormons having Warner von Braun in their theological Mormon movie? What is happening? Why is all this going on?

Like things started changing when he took over, and he did send aid to the Nazis after the war. He sent food and all kinds of supplies. He said, well that was just because if you look it up, it'll say no, he didn't. But he did send it to the German people that were Mormons. Yeah, like I said, so it's a fun little Yeah, justin knows what's up. I wish he'd I wish he'd come back and chat more, but he's busy. Now I've tried.

these actual establishments, the actual cities. These cities are tie into some of the experimentation some of the facilities, especially in Chicago.

black ops CIA. What have you were going on? And he's like, I don't know, let me look, and then comes back and says, sure enough, there is CIA connections. And that's kind of about where he stopped in terms of that. Of course, his the breath of his actual research was much more extensive than that, you know, but those were connections that were made on the show.

to live there than live anywhere else. And also I think it was you know, Brigham was nothing if not resilient on making money, and it's kind of a halfway point, you know, for travelers. So he was thinking, I'm sure like this would be good to have an outpost there, but quickly they decided they would abandon this by eighteen fifty seven. So it is still there. It is standing. It's toward the old part of Las Vegas Boulevard. So if you guys ever want to go, you could go

check it out. But yeah, it's there, and the Mormons kind of, you know, hung onto that until we get to another person, not just the Mormons, but Howard Hughes right, that helped with Vegas. There would be not a lot of things if not for Howard Hughes. But Vegas was definitely one of his babies. And to understand anything about Howard, we kind of have to go backwards in life. This is Howard and his mom and Howard was. You know, I honestly believe he was a Munchausen by proxy child.

You know, he was sick a lot as a child. His mom did some really weird stuff. She would like and inspect his body daily. I mean, it was her only kid. She obviously had OCD tendencies as well. They're not going to diagnose her, but from the descriptions of things, it was pretty severe. She was it got weird, like showers and stuff like. I don't think he was fully abused, but I don't think it was quite right what was

going on there. So it will lead to what happens to Howard in the future, which is the only reason why I bring it up, So either by genetics or by what was happening. So yeah, it definitely affected him. And then you know, during Howard Hughes's teenage years, a lot of people don't discuss it, but he actually was one of the first people to ever make a motorized bicycle. He has a huge IQ. I think is i Q's

one fifty eight. It's higher than Elon's. I remember that because when I was looking them up, I was like, oh, but he's mad about that.

but his dad was more rough and tough. He did try to become an attorney, and he was successful at passing the bar, originally from Iowa, but then settled down in Texas and loved the oil rigging business and he you know, made this drill bit that made him quiet the fortune and he started a company of his own, which unfortunately, his mom passed away of an ectopic pregnancy after his dad had already passed away, and so they both passed away like quick, within a year or two

of each other. So he ended up with all of the money from that. And those that don't know Howard he was pretty successful and almost all the adventures he started out and not at first, if not at first, he was at the end and he quickly was interested in making movies. And there was another parallel there. You know, with his movie making time, you know, Joe Kennedy was

making movies at the same time. I found that really interesting because of the connections that we're going to get to later, and I often wonder if there was more of a relationship there than what they say. But regardless, by the time he hits Vegas, he's got quite a lot of money, you know, and he ends up here, and his first little bit in town was kind of odd. He came and he leased a five room cottage near the Desert Inn at first, and it was called the Greenhouse.

And he lived there for one year, and he left and ordered it never to be changed. Probably now even it would be the same if he was still alive. He never went back to it. He refused to ever go back there ever again, but he wanted it kept exactly like perfectly how it was. And then the next time he ends up there, he actually goes to the Desert Inn and it got weird. Howard is weird at this point. In nineteen sixty seven, he rented out the top floor and he was walking around naked doing whatever

he wanted. He wouldn't come out of his room. His curtains rotted because they wouldn't let the maids in all kinds of stuff, and finally they were like, hey, you got to get out of here, man, and he was like, no, I'm just going to buy it. You leave. So they did, they left, and he bought it. And so he buys this hotel and he thinks, you know what, I kind

of like this. You know, maybe I'll start owning hotels, right, and I just throw all those little pictures and stuff of Howard in because maybe some of the younger people don't know who Howard is. Without Howard used, we wouldn't have most of the error, like all of the space and satellites and aircraft and all of these huge industry things that have been developed underneath his name. And then even goes further than that at a later point. He's

actually cousin to the right brothers. And you know he was a pilot in his own right. He did stunts well I don't know why that's repeating, Sorry, he did stunts sometimes on his own movies that they wouldn't do. But also we know he got her pretty badly in Rex, and so I guess he just didn't care anymore. So the whole point is is Howard's pretty pretty odd. And one thing that Howard really liked was kind of that

clean cut facade on the outside. Now that doesn't mean he didn't have his own demons on the inside, because he did have neurosyphilis and it was affecting his brain. They always bring up the OCD, and you know he's rich and eccentric, but you know, they don't bring up the neural syphalis. And so that was happening. He was married, and at this point is where he meets somebody called Mayhew because he's worried about his wife. Well, okay, he wants to hire somebody to check out her stuff because

he thinks, okay, she's cheating on him and whatnot. Okay, well, when you only spend twenty minutes a day with your wife, you have her come in the room, stare at her, and have her leave. I mean, do I blame the girl? I don't know. And so yeah, he ends up meeting somebody that he wants to have them check out this wife of his because he's like, hey, I think she's cheating on me. I need you to check her out. You run your own PI business and incomes mister Mayhew.

And when you talk about Robert Mayhew. He is like a huge player in this whole game, and he is part quote unquote of the Mormon mafia. But also he wasn't Mormon. It was just kind of what got coined to them. Most of them were Mormons, but mayhe happen not to be. He actually is the person they did Mission Impossible after his life. He wasn't a Mormon. He ends up the chief execus to Nevada operations for Howard Hughes.

So he just was there to do this private investigation for him and ends up on the very top of his businesses, which often happens with Howard, and needless to say, kind of gave up on the investigation. Him and his wife get divorced, and this guy kind of pops into his life and taking charge pretty much of most of his corporations and whatnot. At this point, he is a former spy. He has delivered lots of politicians and even Nixon, helped a ton on Watergate, all kinds of different stuff.

He worked with Nixon in nineteen fifty four against Onnassas and the King of Saudi Arabia. We get into the Bay of Pigs and it's a whole big thing. But he is definitely, you know, one hundred percent in at taking care of things, if you get my drift. And he was also in on a CIA level with the Mob. Okay, so Sam g and Conna, Johnny Roselli. He's a part of all this stuff. And so he has these connections because Howard wants to buy more hotels, well who owns

them at the time. The Mob for the most part, so Bob is pretty interesting, but he doesn't like Mormons. And there's another there's a group of people around Howard and he is only one of the group and it ends up being kind of a big war I guess internally for them. But at that point he had the upper hand and he is, like I said, known to have basically been part of helping with the Bay of Pigs, and like nineteen forty one he was hired by the

FBI for the Committee of Intelligence. He's a Nazi sympathizer. This guy's all over the place, So I mean, when we're talking about shady people, he's definitely one the next person that helps him with the hotel thing, because this gets him in the door, foot in the door to the mob. But what are you going to do to find that's it? Well, okay, you he had money, but he knew he wanted many of these things, and so he did want to get involved in banking in the area.

So in comes the Mormons. This is how the Mormons start. So E Perry Thomas, he's a critical player here. He he is a Mormon Latter day Saint, full blown, and he made sure that he did not give mister Hughes any hard times when it comes to I don't want my fingerprints done, I don't want this done, I don't want that done. I don't even want to meet the people. That shouldn't be a thing. But E. Perry Thomas made

this happen for him. And he's actually called the Quiet king Maker, and he's the first banker to ever lend money to the casino operators. And he's changing the rules to kind of drive out the regular mob casino type stuff so nobody can skim off the top anymore. And so he wants to corporatize it, and so does Howard. Howard is behind this. He wants to clean up the Act of Las Vegas basically, and so he opened the Bank of Las Vegas. He had previously been in Salt

Lake City. It's good. Mormons are right.

It says for George eccyls. George Eccles was kind of my dad's godfather, said the son of E. Perry Thomas. So this guy's got his fingers all over different places and it continues on through life. So he becomes a big part of the Mormon mafia and as well as Mayhew. And then we're going to get another player in the game, and this guy is I think they get better with each one that I introduce. Honestly, I think that it

gets more and more fun. We'll pull this up so this is the board that they eventually form because there becomes many of them and it's called Suma Board and Suma Corporation. So funny enough, the Summer Corporation under this guy, his name's Gay. I know it's funny, but that's his name. And then also with the help of E. Perry Thomas, who is not on the board but he's very involved, and Mayhew and all these people, they form this board to run the Suma Corporation. Do you know what Suma

happens to me? For like a definition? Basically I found this interesting. I didn't know this one till today, So if you don't, it means the top. And so you know, he he does this in multiple places, Like he also names a future subsidiary that he owns, this big plot of land, Summerlin, Suma. It's like all all very similar, and it's going to come into play with the Mormons. It's kind of a wordplay. But you know, they started their own too, as justin mentioned, they built their own

neighborhood called Mount Olympus. So the top everybody's kind of referencing to being the top dog, and it's kind of one of those things with this as well. So we've got this board where now all these people that like have known Howard he's surrounding himself. I don't know if he was feeling, you know, overly weak with his OCD starting to get worse, but he's starting to surround himself almost specifically with Mormons at this point other than Mayhew, and Mayhew and Gay do not get along. They are

not They're not good. And this is the point, like I said, where he gets taken off his own board, and these people are basically running his companies. And there are many of them at this point. They're all underneath the sh Shell Company, of course, and we'll get into that. But he's got like Hughes Air West, Hughes Sports, Hughes Helicopters, Hugh's Aircraft. He's got the Sands Hotel, the Frontier, Landmark, Castaways Hotel, co Desert In Silver, Slipper Casino, Hughes, Nevada Mining, General,

American Oil. That's just a couple. So he's really he's really got a lot. And he's going to form another company here soon to kind of try and help with his taxes. But these people become critical in his life. And when we talk about the Gays, I find it funny because before we rolled, JJ was saying, yeah, one guy we're going to talk about in a minute kind of slipped out of it. Well, so did this guy. And Gay is one of I think the least talked about people. He's passed away now, but he was just

like an errand boy. He shows up on the scene and he's this errand boy, and then all of a sudden he's running the company. That doesn't even seem like but that's what happens. And he transformed the Hughes basically into a Mormon corporation. He started hiring almost exclusively Mormons. He took over all the operations that were in Silicon Valley, all kinds of stuff. So he's big deal later and even to this day. In fact, if you guys watch

Desperate Housewives, Heather Gay is his daughter in law. So this doesn't go away. And these people are worth a lot of money even to this day. And these were one of the people that, like I said, we're able to kind of walk away and just take the money and run.

And it was funny because his dad actually was really smart. He also went to Rice and he was engineer mined as well, even though he ended up being an attorney. But he took this and went like to a bar. He had like some guy meet him there, and he like took his idea and paid him one hundred and fifty dollars and made a lot of money off of it. I think fifty five billion is what they said. So when it went to Howard, and I mean, that's an

astronomical amount of money back then, you know. And so Howard's got all this money, he can do whatever he wants. He's super smart. He can just you know, kind of run the world with it, and he definitely did, but he was definitely infiltrated with people all along the way that he trusted, and it turns into a big problem for him. So, like I said, you know, Gay ends up running the show. And let me show a picture of Gay just so you guys know what he looks like.

This is him. He's passed away, like I said, he actually ran that. He ended up after Howard passed away, taking over Howard Hughes Medical Institute, which is what he formed. They formed this to basically get out of taxes free, and Nixon was the one that pushed it through. The IRS said no, you can't do that. You can't put all your companies under that. We're not going to say that's okay, but you know they were using his companies for the helicopters, specifically for the CIA at this point.

And funny enough, all these people that I've mentioned to you so far, they've all been affiliated one way or another. So e Perry Thomas, even though he's this banker all that stuff there, he also and this is not a well known fact, he was World War Two trained paratrooper skier that they would drop into units in Europe. And so he's made. And then we've got Gay ends up being an associated make and then May Hughes made on

both sides of it with FBI and CIA. So you know, I don't know if that was on purpose or not, because Howard hughes a sketchy in himself, and you know, he kept his mouth shut. So it's kind of interesting with that connection, because we're going to talk about that next. So in true James Bond fashion, he gets involved with this and this is a glomar explorer and this is called the Azorian Project. And they say, now, I'll tell you what they say and what I think is going

on here. They say that this is to retrieve a submarine that they're going to pull off the bottom of the ocean floor, and that this is a CIA operation and that they needed Howard's help. I don't think it's that. If you look and see what you know Azorian means, or if you know anything about Atlantis, it's pretty interesting. And at this point that they did this exploration, supposedly the ocean was like down quite a bit where they could really get down and drill deep into the ocean floor.

And I mean not only I, but many people suspect that they were digging for something else and it wasn't just this retrieval mission, but that's what they say it was.

that's how that this got its name. And with everything that we know about Mormons and keys and stones and things, and I mean, I just don't buy it, because if you know anything about Atlantis, and you know anything about like Edgar Casey and the two y stone and all this stuff, like it really makes you start going, wait a minute, what exactly do the Mormons know? Because they constantly talk about having the key, the keys, the keys, the keys, and you know, they'll say it's the keys

to the priesthood. I don't believe it is. I think that they have something that is very important, important enough for the Vatican to say, you can be my neighbor, won't you be my neighbor in twenty eighteen and let them build an LDS temple right down the street from them. That has never happened before. And in the photo op he's holding the key of Saint Peter with a Masonic grip.

I don't think that was an accident with the prophet doing that, the profit of the LDS Church who's a School and Bones member, So what they were doing, I don't know, but I will say this, there's multiple CIA things at this time with Howard with Gemstones. There's another file that's called the Gemstone file, which people say is blooney. I don't know, you know, there's facts based around it. They can say the guy was a liar, he's dead, he died really young. I don't know if he was lying.

I mean, and it goes into Onassis and it really makes you wonder. I mean, when you start learning all this stuff that goes together, you're like, wait a minute, is this? Why is this why people start dropping like flies? So, I mean, whether Howard Hughes was in the CIA or not, he's definitely surrounded by the CIA and the FBI and totally affiliated in different ways. Like I said, at this point, his helicopter business is exclusively doing CIA and FBI helicopter

rentals and all kinds of stuff. So he's also doing this Azorian project and all this stuff. So I think maybe Howard Hughes was probably in the c I a'mself, but I can't prove that, so I can't say I'm sorry.

all of them. So if it was something like a square, like a nine x nine square, and like everybody has like different gemstones because you brought up gemstones. I know that Cecil Rhads was very fond of diamonds, so you have like a lot of these like very interesting connections with gemstones and sort of like now we all use our phones and that's kind of like, oh yeah, right, mare for sure exactly.

I think it was his HGA and you know there's a demonic side to that, and then he dies right after that, so obviously he didn't sell it correctly. Probably, but I mean that's just my hypothesis on it. But these are things that were owned by Joseph Smith and his family, and these are very esoteric in nature. Like absolutely, I think you're correct. I think there's a lot more at play with Mormonism than meets thigh, but I think they try and keep that on the down low, you know.

And so but with the stone, I mean it makes sense, you know, makes totally.

the knife that you're speaking of. I mean, when you're talking about the intelligence of Mars too, you're not talking about an angel, that's a that's a demon. They classify it as a demon.

a there's nothing new under the sun. When people laugh and say Joseph and Brigham talked about people on the sun and on the moon, I'm like, yeah, until you read Golden Dawn stuff, and then you go, huh, that's not fun anymore, right, I Mean, they knew what they were talking about. It's just all hidden. And now the church has changed, just like Justin says, you know all the time, it's turned into a corporation and they don't want any more of this woo woo stuff, you know.

And this is right during that time where this is happening. I believe. I think this is intricate in when the Mormon Church is going to switch from you know, a church with some esoteric still left after the Reformation to basically a corporation and involved in government dealings often, and so.

So the idea of creating corporation is magical in and of itself, because even a charter is a treaty, right, Like, there's something very mythritic about that. Yeah, say, the structure, so they're taking out the esoterica, like the something Nick often talks about, right, Like, they take out the esoterica, but the structure around everybody, this corporate structure, you could say, is inherently magical, just right.

that's my opinion. So I don't think it's good at this point. Do I think it started that way? I have no idea what the real intention for that was. I don't think so. But you know, with the Reformation and Brigham Young, I think the changes were that they were going to control that and they did, you know, But I think you're right. I think I think if they were more honest, it would be a better way to be, you know, like, hey, we do this magic stuff. You want to come like sure?

these things work. And you know, we may not fully understand it, but I feel like that is so unfair for somebody to not know what a mason is and b one that. Yeah, and I think it's sad. I think, yeah, I think that's sad. And the corporatization of it, I don't think changes for their esoteric side. In fact, slowly but surely, they let out little by little more. You know, the prophet brought out the magic cat. I bout dropped my soda. I was like, whoa, what are we doing over here? Skull moonnes guy?

in the spring in the fall. And when did he get the plates? He got him in the fall equinox. I think he was summoning, and I think he was doing it purposely, because if you listen to the stories that seem ridiculous, like oh, this toad came out and punched him in the face, right, You're like Oh, my gosh,

she's just crazy. That's so funny. That's the first level, right, and then you start learning things and you're like, oh, which is familiars are toads, right, And they tried to change it to a salamander, which is forged by the fire and not burned and really magical and good on the good side of things. And so I think that that was set up. I think a lot of things were set up to make it look better than it was, or pregame, you know, pregame that because it's going to

come out. I think Kafmacot's screwed.

done before or since. That doesn't make any sense if these people are like, hey, I'm running for my life because I want to be a polygamist. Leave us alone. Hey, President, can we help you build the railroad? What?

was a magical system. And I think, you know, they never tell us the little things like when he got sick with typhoid fever that he went to his uncles in Salem to heal and he was there with his uncle Jesse for a long period of time, I'm like, oh, that makes more sense. I wonder what he taught him

or Luman Walters. That's a whole rabbit hole, you know that nobody goes down and just the fact of Luhman's name alone light Bringer, like come on, like there's too many you know, right, Yeah, just esoteric presentation of how what I really think? Yeah, I think it's very esoteric.

And do I say that that's terrible in every weight? No, I just think they need to stop lying to people, because if you're going to teach people some of these things, especially with solomonic magic, that is not something they should just be willy nilly flipping around, you know. Sure, but yeah, they have the sigil of Mammon for the melchiztic simple It's there's too many funny coincidences at this point for me.

I mean the more you learn, the more you know, and you're just like, oh, well, was that what was going on? Is this you know what I mean? Like, is that why he doesn't have more kids? Or is it because they own the DNA site? I don't know, but you know, I just think that, yeah, there's definitely two different factions. And you know, justin brought up in the Quorum of the Twelve, you know, there's a committee that does the political side of things that doesn't answer

to anybody religious, including the prophet. So that tells you everything you need to know. You know the Special Committee. It's called like the Special something Committee, right, And I'm like, okay, well that tells you. You know, they're not on their

board either're just like Howard Hughes wasn't. So. I just think that if Mormons were more honest at the top level, I think at this point they would have people beaten down their doors if they were like hippy dippy woo woo astrology magic practicing in this day and age, I mean, people love it. Do Am I going to go do that? No, it's not my thing, but I think that at least then people would be honest. I mean, sure, but that's

that's my thing. I think you're absolutely I'm not sure exactly who I'm talking to each time, but it's definitely es certating for sure. You know it?

And so I just I watched this stuff and I'm like, Okay, it makes more sense if if it was a practitioner of that of Solomonic magic with the masonry, that they would keep it under wraps, right, because then it's I mean, what happened to the witches in Salem, Like they're not going to like this, and so I think that's a

big part of it. But if you look in the past histories, they were in caves still doing crazy stuff like they don't talk about that and signey rigged and stuff, you know, like they don't want to get into it, and so they buried their history. They've glossed it over with a shiny coat of paint, and now they're just like all CIA people. I'm like, that's weird. But that

doesn't seem like how it started, you know. I mean, I mean, we can read they say it was a dumb farm boy, but yet okay, you can't write English, but now you're studying to write Hebrew. Okay. Sure, you know. I think they were just hiding everything, and I think they do that a lot now. I think they're masters of the hidden, for sure. Do I think I think.

Why do they care? Because they say they're the thirteenth bloodline and that they're the blood line of Jesus Christ And they say that, So, I mean, when you look at some of that stuff, you're like, wait, where did that come from?

Some of them are what staff's right, and this looks like a staff, and it looks like a serpent, and it's got an upside down cross on it, right, here and if you look at all of this imagery, very Masonic, and then you go to this as ahead of it, you know this is a serpent staff, that's what it's called. And it was Joseph Smith. But you know it's obscure real quick, yea. And I have two more to show you that are similar.

So coffin kins, this is from them. They dug up Hiram and Joseph took the rotted body juice wood and made coffin keans and then cut their hair and put it in the top of those knobs. And that's why I bring pictures because they speak a thousand words. I'm like, wait, if you don't understand what that means, you know, it's kind of important.

He's like supported by the Intel. So it's like he's kind of created in a way. It's not really it's not just his like American ingenuity and spirit.

Because here's another one of those family parchments. Now you tell me what's going on, because I know because I've researched it a whole lot, and you know, I'm just saying, like, this particular one is what led me to John D. Because it's so obscure that the only other person that writes about it is John D. Because it's a Masonic password.

So you know, when you start looking at all this stuff and then you know what's on the temple itself, all the cloudstones and moonstones and pentacles and pentagrams that are upside down by the way, you know, I'm just like, we'll stop saying you're just about this other like we believe in Jesus just like you. And I'm like, well to you though, because you call your God eloheme, and

that's a plural. Sorry. And also the very top top blessing in the whole church, if you make it to the tippy top, you get it from a woman, and that just doesn't work out with their patriarchal society. So the Masons didn't like him either, because it's masonry for the whole family.

his journal where he was writing astrology. He was super good at it. Like they want to say he's a dumb farm boy. Get out of here, Like, no way, the big.

like everybody, all the rejects know this. I'm not a traditional astrologer, but I do know contric astrology, and so I can tell you that astro theology not necessarily the way it's been presented before, not even the way I present, but just in general that is the real, the true way to really understand a lot of this. But we also don't have to like think of it as like

star religions. We can also think of it as like our self religions, like not that we work with themselves, but it's just it's more internal or more conceptual.

his brother went to Dartmouth. So I think their story has got a lot of holes in it, you know, I think they were very wise at what they did. I'm not going to weigh in one hired or the other about like magical practices. I'm just saying as for the population here in Utah, my grandma passed out dead. If she knew that she was possibly doing magic, like you know, it would not go over well, and so that's why they quit telling people. I think they just want them to do the rituals and they harness that

energy one hundred percent. And when you look at the spires and there's six of them, it's really reminiscent of some other things. And I'm just like, hmm, well, I just feel like that's really unfair to people when you use them like cattle, you know. And I'll never shut up until the Mormon Church comes clean on their stuff and stops doing that, because that's not right. That's not right to do to people, you know.

a specific week. So I thought it was pretty interesting the connections. That's all I wanted to mention is yeah, but.

the temple clothing. We did a whole thing on the correlation between this guy and the Mormons and all of the people that were infiltrating into that area. It's very interesting how many people were there, including one of the prophets right here. This is Hebrew j Grant at the I don't know what I can say. At a dinner for them, and there's a flag there you can see the profit of the church, and you know, they're very racist. And I do believe the White Brotherhood is a very

big part of this, and so was Howard Hughes. I do think it's what God JFK killed. A big part of it was that he was, you know, very incorporating black people. And also you know MLK and RFK were teaming up there for a minute and then he gets it. They both get assassinated. Like I find that very odd. Even when they were trying to push through the Equal rights the Equal Rights hiring Howard he said, no, I don't care, make it go away. I'm not doing it.

But the church is very very interesting on race. I will tell you Brigham Young once said that if you found your wife in bed with somebody that was black, that you should run a knife through both of them rather than let them live. So that's it.

You still, I know the church will like push it and be like, yay, look at this interracial couple we have or whatever on this commercial. But you know, my niece is interracial, and I will tell you it's not a happy place to grow up and be in Utah. So yeah, so it just listend.

it called Galveston Houston connection. And the reason I say that because I don't know when if there was immigration or when it happened, but around I believe mid eighteen hundreds you had a huge amount of German immigration into Galveston area, and most of them either settled in central Texas part of the whole oil boom area, and then a lot of them went into Missouri.

was pretty unapologetic. And so I think that's going to be important because you have to remember, like everybody we're putting together in this little picture, eventually, when we get to the point where we get towards the end, it'll all make sense why they aligned, right, including the Mormon Church, because they are bedfellows with people that are similar to them, and that's going to be an easy sell, you know, and they're also you know, it shows their allegiance with

you know, if JFK stayed in, things would have been more integrated, more rapidly, whereas Nixon was not about that. And that is why Howard Hughes made sure to own him, and he paid him through his brother allegedly, so you know, we get into these things, and he had many politicians in his pocket. He gave him a loan that he didn't have to pay back. So I don't know that that's alone. I mean, and when we're talking about even the banker, you know, how did the banker get the money?

He tapped the Teamsters union fund. What well, why is this white colored guy doing that? He was the first one to ever do it ever. And you know, you're looking at these people, all these bedfellows together, and it's all ancient history right until it's still going today. Like JJ said, I think some are maybe I'm not sure who said which one, but somebody said stuff was still going today. And I do think that, yes, this stuff

is all pertinent to clear to today. And so when we talk about these people, they all end up later like in very prominent positions, you know, and when you get into the German episodes like that I've done in the past,

they were the ones that that started. Okay, so IBM, all those cards, all the little race cards that IBM had, they actually, huh, they actually were a part of that through the Mormon Church, through Howard Hughes is a different company, the ones that were uploading everyone's genealogy into that because they requested them from the CIA, and I have the

draft on that. I will find that for next time, where the Mormon Church actually put in a foia requests for all of those to come to them so that they could put them in so that they could have them for their giant DNA in the in the side of a mountain wall and I do mean wall it's no mistake that the NSA is right down the road with the FBI and the IRS and the Hill Air Force Base and all the other things here. I don't

think that's a coincidence. And they blew the side of a mountain now so that they could house their gigantic DNA and they have a Batman cave and nobody can go in there, and it's got razor wire and there's only one way in, and you can see it's like this big, it's super tiny, and they've got like armed guards here. Why they're just genealogical records, right, I mean, it seems a bit excessive. This is one hallway. This

looks like an Indiana Jones movie, you know. And the thing that I postulate often, and I do a show on this, is look at the size of the drawer. You're talking about a file. They're not going to be tiny like that. But I do know one thing that looks just like that. That's a letterbox drawer size of a letter, normal letter. And I'm a nurse and I've done many a PKU stab from the soul of a foot of a newborn, and I've filled out those cards so much times and they're just happened to be that size.

So I'm not saying that they did do anything wrong, but they're pretty powerful. And you know, their top holding is Microsoft, you know, And funny enough, when all that stuff was happening and they were getting all the stuff from IBM, Bill Gates's mom was on the board of IBM at that time. And not only that, but the number one shareholding to this day for the Mormon Church is Microsoft. Well that's interesting. So when you know that and you put it all together, you're kind of like, huh.

And it's not just Microsoft, Elon, They've got Tesla, Nvidia, it's all of that. But the number one land holding for farming now in all of America is Bill Gates, but the number two is the LDS Church. So do I think they're in bed together? Yeah. I think they're a huge part of the nWo. And I don't think they really hide it that much. It didn't take me too many deep dives to find a lot of stuff.

So yeah, it gets weird. And you know when they get into x files and everything that comes up, Tesla comes up, van over Bush comes up on here, like all kinds of weird areas where you know, you're talking about people that handled those files in real life, like not the movie. You know, gets weird.

then that's why they sent him. And I mean, you know that gets into you know, our current president, and so does the JFK files where Roy Kohene is on the board of perm Index and it's this big giant circle where it's literally the Oro Boros, Like I was like,

oh my gosh, yeah, it's all of them. And I think that just it's so weird that everybody just kind of goes I don't want to deal with that because it is weird, you know, But I think the Mormons are the nicest people ever, and that gives them kind of a, I'm gonna push stop sharing on this so we can talk. It kind of gives them the ability to sneak around, just like we talked about Bob Bennett. It gave him the ability to sneak through because he's so nice. Right. They teach them like mk ultra talkie

talk like it's weird. If you've ever heard their speeches or listen to you know, the Mormons talk at church. It's see song. It's very it's very programming. And so I think that it all fits together. I think that, you know, it makes sense. And then when you tell people, no, I think the Mormons are behind it too, not just the one word. We won't say, you know, we'll see Kazars, Kauzarians. Yeah, we'll go that route. Yeah, I'm not going to say that one. And so you know, I don't think it's

just them. I think that they're just the only ones out front. You know. And the Mormons slippy too.

They're looking for stuff. No way, sure, no way.

talk about them much more openly. But then also like a lot of the real knowledge, like the real skill. It doesn't take even that much skill, but just even the real knowledge of how to do it is like much more degraded than it used to be.

to me, because he wasn't. He didn't really know. And we spent a lot of time on the phone, and I said, what's the first thing the Mormons do when they talk to you, they give you something free. Okay, it's a book, but what color is it? It's blue? And if you know anything about all this stuff, it makes sense. And then what happens if you know the process of that, they get something tenfold back because you get ten percent on tithing. It makes one hundred percent

sense when you know the reason why. But it took me two years to figure all that out. So I mean, a normal person isn't going to spend their time every single day, like eight hours a day trying to figure stuff out. They're just not going to do that, and so I think a lot of it's degraded for that simple reason. They're hiding it. They don't want to seem out there or weird. But yet they're all in these secret societies. So they're inward and weird, weird, we'll say weird,

but they're secret. You know, they're doing all this and keeping it for themselves only. And the profit of the church is a hundred. I mean, clearly they're using it. He's a hundred. He's using it for extension of life. And why do you do necromancy in general like baptisms for the dead? Necromancy is so you can know things before they happen, and have a knowledge of things before they occur. What do we call the profit? The profit seer and revelator tell me they're not using it and

six spires, Like, honestly, it all makes sense. And when I have an old book and I'll find it, I took a picture of the back page because the and they say things are weird. They're like, oh, just just take that and hide that and then don't ever show anybody that again and sell that book. Right, So I go by him and I found this really cool old book on masonry, and it had a diagram in the back with all the astrology signs and how the temples

lined up. And it's a very specific and Joseph Smith told them to do it specifically with like all the months and the moon phases, all kinds of stuff. It's not just a building. There's all kinds of stuff there. So yeah, I think there's a lot that they hide.

giving that anointing. For the second anointing that you know basically makes your place sure in the celestial kingdom, that's given by a woman in your marital bedroom, well it should be, it's not I think they do it in the temple now, but they keep changing all everything.

thing is is if you go back far enough. And I know this because me and Justin were talking about who was in Who's line one night on genealogy and stuff, and this one lady. He's like, oh, that's your last name. Oh you're related to this one lady that had the most patriarchical blessings, that had the best outcomes. I'm like a woman gave him. He's like, well, yeah, she's like

your relative. And he was like, we were talking about how it goes down, and he's like, you know, that would be one of your relatives in the direct line, and we were talking about it. He goes, they quit having women do it after Joseph died, And I was like, well, that makes a lot of more sense because Brigham he was different. He wasn't the same as Joseph. He was way more stern and patriarchal.