*Replay* Robert Maxwell's Medical Monopoly

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in many ways because this actually wasn't my idea. This was actually Lisa's idea. It was something that she thought was actually really important and kicked the topic to him, and I was looking at it, I was like, oh, I didn't know all this, And then when I even started looking into these other things, I was like, this guy like like basically between him and nazis like they sculptured the medical world that we're in today. Right, This

is actually wild to me, you know. Plus again, you know, seeing the usual suspects that we used to see back in the day, CT Corp, you know, Corporation Company and USA Corpse start popping up again under their registered agents, it starts to seem very interesting. And for people who don't know what those companies or those registered agents are, I just just watched the series and we'll get to it, but I will definitely show how I've come across them

before in the past as well. So but I guess since you know this is Lisa's topic, you can go ahead and like, you know, maybe started off. I'll let everybody know, like, what's your plan here? Yeah?

of this connection. So, you know, you have the dissenting voices on one side of the scientist saying, oh, the scientific publishing industry is just you know, exploitative, and then you hear about Robert Maxwell. You know, he's a horrible person. But I had never heard the two in the same sentence. So, like, I want to kind of set at the stage kind of giving a little bit of information on scientific publishing industry,

not too long, but just very briefly. But I think that it's very important to kind of set that stage because this topic, I think is very important and quite frankly, it's like not discussed at all. I've never heard of it. I never even heard of a connection between the two, and I had no idea how influential Robert Maxwell was on the current model of scientific journal or publishing journals and how they operate and the business model that they use.

So hopefully you'll see why I think it's a big deal. So just a little bit of background to kind of set the stage. Like I mentioned, there is in so in academia and scientific publishing. Publishing is going to be the lifeline of every scientist. There is a common saying that's called publisher perish, and it's a phrase that's urd often and you hear it being used often, and it's used to describe the enormous amount of pressure that is

placed on scientists to publish and publish often. So their career, their funding, their promotion, overall professional success depends on if they publish and the free quency of publishing. So this is kind of the only way that scientists can stand out amongst others and basically demonstrate like their talent or you know, how well they set up an experiment and can put data out there. So it it if they can publish often, it reinforces like a positive feedback.

it's just like a small little thing that they're putting out two weeks later or a month or two later. Yeah, sometimes I do think it's just to like kind of like again, I guess what I was getting at is that like a lot of times recently, I'll hear people that have in some important stuff I think to say that are referencing back to other works from even other people that they're expanding on or that I'm taking that theory in that model and I'm running with this and that's how I'm getting this.

And so sadly, if you're not really interested in your topic, but that's what's getting published, you're kind of married to putting out data kind of like content creators to publish because it's not going to get published any other way, and you want to keep your job. So like if you have professors, for instance, that love teaching or mentoring,

that doesn't give you any publications. So if you publish less because you devote more time to teaching, you're going to kind of find yourself out of a situation where you're no longer teaching and mentoring. So publishing is like your lifeline. But because of this whole publish or perish, this whole model behind it all has shown that the publishing, the model for publishing within the scientific industry has not so very good consequence or it has consequences rather for

the industry itself. For the scientific publishing industry itself, it's amazing, it's great, because the more pressure you put on scientists to put out stuff, the more papers are going to push, and the more journals they're going to have to create. So it's just like a money making churning out and and they're just basically, you know, making money off of these journals. And I'll tell you why in a second.

But for science itself and by default the scientists, it's led to and I think you were kind of getting on this tangent, is that it's led to potentially wasteful research research it's not even going to benefit society, but it's fresh, it's new, and it's being published, so that everybody starts to gravitate towards that. There's also like a bias that is created towards just doing the research that's publishable. So the research may be done, but it has no real application into society. Itself.

it's almost like a waste of time. Yeah, well, like it doesn't really help anything because we would have to change everything to this, And he's like, I don't see this having enough merit to even think about doing that. He said, Not that I'm against changing the whole way we look at science, he says, it says we better have some damn good reasons. Why.

or your data shows no significant data. That is still important because if you don't publish that, then you're going to have laboratories around the world doing the same experiment coming to the same dead end, and that's waste of money, that's waste of time, and that's waste of so many things. When you could have just published it and said no, I didn't see any correlation and people can move on. If anything, it eliminates, Hey, this didn't work. But journals

don't publish no data. That's I think that's the whole point in that whole end. But the other thing is like, say that you have an experiment, you turned out data, and here it is. It's published. Because everybody is trying to publish something fresh and new and get published. The likelihood of somebody repeating the experiment to see if someone in Arizona got the data. Whatever. Now someone in Switzerland's going to repeat it and see if they get the

same data. The reason that that's important is because you set up a hypothesis and you say this is what I think happened. Somebody else has to be able to reproduce that scenario in order for that hypothesis to now evolve into a theory. If no one replicates that hypothesis, it stays like that. It never gets it never moves on.

In the progression of theory to law to whatever. But because everybody's trying to publish, nobody's wasting time repeating experiments because if it's a repeat of experiment, themselves will probably not publish it. So now you're starting to see how it's all starting to bias itself, and that scientists are basically motivated to only publish as a survival mechanism to keep their job. So you have so you have all of that right, and you have scientists that are saying, hey,

this model doesn't work. This model is actually detrimental to science. The whole publish in Parish is threatening the quality of science.

That you know, you have smaller universities that aren't as like affluent with their laboratory techniques or technology or equipment or whatever, and they cannot compete with like say Harvard, where they're getting all the journal publications, whereas these smaller ones are not because they don't have the equipment and they you know, you have that bias in or whatever. And then also the politics, so everything is kind of like in this mismatch area and it's all kind of

in this bias sense. And if you don't tap into what they call a magical formula on how to get published.

You're kind of out out of a situation for publishing, and this was all kind of geared during this whole publisher parish motto or whatever, and so for all even okay, so even all of that, all of the dissenting voices saying all this and saying it's biased, saying that science isn't growing, No one that I have seen or at least genuinely address who was responsible for the paradigm shift in scientific publication and the model they use it today.

So they'll say, oh, well it started here or so and so was the one that kind of influenced it all or whatever, but they don't really go into in depth as to who it was, why it was, and how come it's like that now, or even his his basic you know, affiliations with what's going on in the news right now. So just quickly, in science, it started off with oral history. They basically would get together, discuss, do a discourse, and share ideas, share their experiments, and

that was it. You had other places that were handwriting their manuscripts, their findings, their discoveries, their experiment designs, and that was another section. If you're handwriting your manuscript. I doubt you're going to turn out one hundred of them to disseminate to all these people, So that was also limited. But with the or what they call the post print paradigm, what really kicked it off was actually the printing press in the late nineteenth century to where you could actually

get you know, information onto whatever and then disseminate. So that's kind of the progression of like oral history in through going into the journal sense or journal publications. So what really I think kind of kicked it off what was going on in Europe, and we'll discuss it here in a bit, also was kind of happening in the US.

And I think it's important to identify what was happening in the US because it kind of served as an influence on why everybody started to invest in what was going on in Europe and what we're going to discuss here in a bit. But so during World War two, they needed scientists to basically invent things and to assist the war and help the Allied win the war. So what ended up happening is that scientific research in academia started to be based upon two principles of self governance.

You needed autonomy in that scientist needed to be free to pursue whatever topic they wanted to do. You can't force, ultimately force someone to do it, otherwise you've compromised the entire experiment or the science. And then you also had to have internal accountability. Not only are you yourself doing the science, but you had to have somebody qualified that could look at what you're doing and say, yes, it's good,

no it's not. And that they felt that the government should fund the science because that data was going to be used for the public as a whole, and they didn't want want the private sector to fund it because you can't expect the private sector to fund all kinds of research, and also it would bias it, which we see now in terms of you know bias research. So

during World War Two you had this. You had Van vere Bush from MIT that basically was in charge of the US Office of Scientific Research and Development, and he goes on later to be the director of the Manhattan Project.

But he's famous for kind of setting the groundwork and telling the governments, hey, you need to fund scientists so that they can turn out, you know, data, and that in order to do this, the continuous flow and substantial flow of scientific knowledge will will be there for our country, and they have to be able to choose whatever they want to do, Otherwise you compromise the science and that all that data would benefit society. Hence why the government

themselves would fund the research. And when I say the government, I mean federal or state. Right, So you had scientists that we're doing this stuff, but you still needed to judge how their work was benefiting society and if it was of quality work, And the only way to do this what they felt at the time, was through scientific publication. So that's how we start to see how publications come circle back into how it plays into experiments and the

lifeline of scientists in general. And so the way that they could, I guess, judge each other is that if other scientists were peer reviewing the publication, Right, you write it up, you give it to another scientist, Yes it sounds good, it sound or whatever. But what happened with this whole thing is that by default, for all intents and purposes, how and the whole process of publication and the publication industry is now going to become the significant

but invisible influence over science and science policy. So the publication companies are now in a position to where they can say, no, we're not going to publish your work, or yes we are if you play politics, or if you don't play politics, if if this is hot right now, this virus is hot right now in this year, we only publish this, you know. And they are in that position. And a majority of those publication companies are not even

scientists themselves. They're businessmen and so they want to see you know, they want they want to have that profit margin. So one of the things that ended up, I guess, coming out of this, is that the publication industry would and as we see now does own science. They dictate it all, they shape all of it. They shape the publisher parish motto for sure. And what that's contributed to

is an oligopoly of the publication industry. So you're seeing now how you have these scientists, but they're all kind of being funneled into this way of thinking, way of thought in order to keep their job. And it's through by design, through a business model. So the business model really quickly is that imagine that you receive raw materials

from your customer for free. The customers themselves carry out the quality control of the materials for free, and then the customers buy back the final product and an extremely elevated price that just keeps rising and there is no cap. That is essentially the scientific publishing industry in a nutshell.

So you're not paying your scientists, your writers, and you're definitely not paying your editors, and then you're selling it mainly to libraries at a price that keeps increasing every year, and there's no cap because the libraries aren't going to tell you no, because they're scientists need the journals in order to continue conducting research. So it's a for profit oligopoly that functions within a government funded, largely regulated organization.

So it it kind of it's one of those things to where you kind of just how do I say this.

It's not you know, the more articles you push out, you know, the more commission.

can prove it because of this business model. But you're basically they're basically providing a free labor force for a job that requires them and only them to check do the quality check, and none of none of them get paid for it, which is Yeah, I thought that was that was pretty So with all that, I kind of wanted to throw some numbers at y'all in terms of profit margins. Oh so, corporate publishers exists as only a

large handful. So there's only like maybe two or like three to five top dogs in all of the scientific industry. They own almost all the journals.

made it to that top tier. So they themselves have also initiated like a like a hierarchy as well that you were trying to constantly chase and.

six academic journals we're publishing worldwide. In the last ten years, the number of journals has grown close to thirty percent. So Elsieverer, this one, you see, it's at the top basically in terms of revenue. It it has annual revenues exceeding billion. I believe it's in British pound. Total revenue is more than nineteen billion British pounds. And mind you, it's a narrow audience. Not everybody's picking this up off the sand. It's just catered to scientists, and that's it.

Scientists don't make the majority of the population on Earth, but yet they're banking. The amount of revenue that they garner falls in between industries such as the film and recording industry. They rank at that level, and in twenty ten they had a thirty six percent margin that outpaced it was higher and outpaced Google, Apple, and Amazon that year, and yet no one's talking about it, which is weird to me.

Like well, like what I'm getting at it is like what you're saying, like, how are you even making this much money with such a small audience exactly? So where's that money coming from?

one is asking for that. And then the other thing is that say the libraries themselves say, oh, we're only going to do it for one year. Then the publishing company says, well, you don't get access to the previous issues, even though you may have paid last year for the subscription. So they kind of like punish the libraries for not having a renewal rate or a renewal on it and not getting the full package deal. And they can because who else is doing it. There's only three or four of them or five.

The Hebrew Jamachi does I thought was interesting, does Matcho, wed Las Vegas, The Apocalypse, Encoded, Lying Spirits, Democrat Party, Family, Cursed King, and then like when I went over to the English and Simple, I mean to get its time serious, Halloween Scorpio, Kundalini, Son of God, heineal Gland, Neptune, Pentagram,

Mandala Effect, Nintendo Einstein Nightmare, the Tool Empress. Thought that was kind of interesting, and the Queen Peter Pan and the Elo him and I think if I forgot to say it, if I already did say it, Mandala effect.

is Ukraine. He was born to a poor Yiddish speaking Orthodox Jewish family, most of which were said to have died in Auswitz, and has stated that he joined the Czech resistance resistance and escaped to France and in May nineteen forty changed his name to Leslie du Marier. Oh that's how you say it, and then fought in the British Army in World War Two. To me. I was like, why are you changing your name? Like, I don't know why.

I just then when he promoted to lieutenant, he was stationed near Brussels, and he changed his name again.

me a green card. Two months later, he marries Elizabeth Minard, which was a French Protestant, on March fourteenth, nineteen forty five. They had four sons and five daughters. After the war, Maxwell went into the business of selling scientific publications until nineteen ninety four. I'm sorry, nineteen forty nine. And then we'll talk about how he found a permot Press in fifty nine, and then he also stood for parliament as a labor candidate for Bunkingham. I think he won in

sixty four and sixty six or whatever. But we'll go into that either on the next episode or later on. I want to mention this incident real quick, and then we're going to kind of come back on the timeline. So in nineteen seventy one he receives a nickname the Bouncing Check, which I think is a good play on words.

and his own private family business. Well, when Steinberg discovers the con he withdrew his offer, sparking an investigation from the part of Trade in Britain, to which was declared that Maxwell was not to be relied upon to exercise proper stewardship of a publicly quoted company. Well, the Director of Public Prosecutions declined to press charges against Maxwell and he recovered well from the scandal, and therefore his nickname was born the Bouncing Check, so he had that to

his name. So kind of going backwards a little bit, I wanted to, you know, when you talked about his time during the war and then changing his name. Yes, so some to kind of give you a little bit of history. There was some top British scientists who were

kind of complaining about the publication process in Britain. You had Fleming, who was the guy who came up with a vaccine no yes vaccine, And then you had Charles Darwin's grandson, Charles G. Darwin, who was a physical assist that basically they're putting out top tier British science, yet they can't showcase it because it's not being published fast enough, or it's not being published at all, or just basically

the publishing sector was lacking in Britain. So what was known at the time was that scientific publishers were known for being broken and efficient. It just wasn't happening and the journals are being cheaply made and everything was backlogged, and they relied on cash handouts to even do the

process itself. So the way that the Britain governments solved this was to pair Butterworths, which is now owned by Elsieber, with the German publisher Springer, because Springer was good at this and had been doing it doing it for a while, so Buttersworth would learn to turn a profit and get it science out faster by acquiring Springer. What's interesting is that Robert Maxwell was currently working for Springer. So if he was a Jew, how is he in working for

German company. I don't know. I don't know how that works, but it just seems odd as well. So Robert Maxwell, having served as an intelligence officer in Berlin after the war, Maxwell had established his own business helping Springer, the German publisher ship scientific articles to Britain. British publishing house Buttersworth directors, who were also ex British intelligence hired Maxwell to help manage the company. So all this is like an op

to me, right, It's all intelligence base. It's all intelligence backed, I think, right, And these are the people that are putting out scientific journals.

to get arrested for what's up with the eugenics? Epstein was into, can we find out about that instead of a set of a you know, just what of a triggered shit to post around online?

It's at the time when Vanavar Bush is basically saying, oh, no, government should fund scientists and we should allow them to explore whatever, and we need to increase publication and disseminate all the scientific knowledge on people. And so science was right about to go into that boom, like huge boom, and Maxwell was sitting right on it and about to basically be in a perfect position to reap the benefits of all that.

I think I did go somewhere and it is actually without an S. But so right now, like the notes that I have, I this is but a Worth Springer and that is nineteen ninety six for Hebrew, sixteen fifty six for English and two seven six and Simple, and then Butterworth itself is sixteen twenty five, ten seventy and one seventy at. Some of the matches that I did get with Jewish Dematria was Weston Powers the Key of Knowledge seventeen zero, so that was weird. Twin Flames Reunion Project,

Quantum Leap, lift up your Eyes. I thought that was interesting to put in there because of the eye symbolism, Gay Way to God, English and Simple, World War three, the shape of Water Russell Crowe. I thought that was interesting. Cyrus the Great Divine bloodlines January sixth, Robert Wilson and born Anti Crime and Lord of the Rings. Then Springer by itself I have three seventy one six, three six

and one zero six. And some of the things I did get for the Simple sorry the Jewish was a Raptor Stanford Ottoman Differeth Cincinnati, Ohio, Sociopath April third, Madam X and then for English and Simple like a Metatron Divine plan, which I found is interesting that like I know I've mentioned before like a lot of eights, you know, it seemed weird, and like even with with Hitler, I had like the h h. Now Divine Plan is matching the Simple and English with the six thirty six in

the one oh six, but its Hebrew is eight eight eight, So you have three creates there, and hal Hitler does also match the English and Simple for uh, Butterworth. So Butterworth and hal Hitler both match. And I just thought it was interesting how like even whatever that word I just said, I just lost myself that had the eighty eight eight. I just found that interesting.

Robert Maxwell. That's what I think, and they constantly, you know, we're competing against each other. So it's yeah, it's interesting that that that would come out as well. So Robert Maxwell, in terms of the business model for the scientific publication, has been quoted as, uh, there was no one more transformative than Robert Maxwell, who turned scientific journals into spectacular money making machine that bank rolled his rise in British

society and notorious figure in Britain at that. However, few people in the last century have done more to shape the way science is conducted today than Maxwell, and the fact that he receives that quote to me speaks of his influence. But as well as that, the paradigm has yet to be challenged. Even at that, you would think that somebody at some point would have brought this up, challenged it and turned it over, especially with everything coming

out with the news and all that other stuff. So yeah it again, reading that article, I I was kind of floored at it altogether. So Maxwell goes on becomes the company manager, and then in nineteen fifty one, Butterworths decides to abandon that project of merging with Springer or even the Springer conglomerate merger whatever, and so Maxwell offers thirteen thousand pounds thirteen one thousand pounds for Butterworths and Springer shares and it would be enough to give him

control of the company. It happens, and he hires on Paul Rosebaum, who, as he was the previous science director on the other project, who Paul you'll talk about here in a bit, was also intelligence. But he basically starts programon with Paul, and they rename the new venture company after a coin from ancient Greek city Pergramon Press. The coin that they're talking about features Athena, the goddess of wisdom, and it was basically used as their logo to represent

money and wisdom. So to me, it's interesting that they would even pick Pergamo, and they would pick something like that. And I believe even when we did the gilg thing, Pergamo itself was pinging, was it an w root beer.

stations like right away talking about it. He sent people down there to help clean up. Very vocal, very mister nine eleven tech a Gramatan that'soughtways interesting to mention, uh, Travis Scott, John Benet, Ramsey, Transformers, Praying Mantis, Eternal Darkness, and Rudolph Steiner, M Yeah, interesting. Then I did pergam On by itself real quick two seven, three, five, three

four and eighty nine. The Jewish Jamatria that I thought was interesting was King Charles, Mother Oranges, Angel of Light, Democrat, red Door Talbot and initiate the English and Simple, you got August again. You and I Argentina, mister poole Osyrus look here, Summer Virginia, Yaldebouth, King James, Alexandria, Fallen Angel, the Beehive, Da Vinci Code, Delta Force, seraphim end Times

and Mystic and Gift of God. Interesting press itself, which I did find interesting when I ran the numbers on that you get three two, five, four six two, But it's as simple as seventy seven. I find that interesting in a little bit, especially like Crole had seven and seven and seven.

believe it in that. Something I did find interesting with that is that there was like a lot of female names that I'm not even gonna read of, but like that was something that was like it seems to be like very feminine names were coming up, you know I did. I normally don't notice the difference that much to ever, like you know, to point that out before USSR net sock. I found that interesting because like you did say something about you say something about Venus before or uh aprod Athena. Yeah,

I mean it's still a feminine god. I could possibly see her on net sock even though like people probably argue with me, I'd probably actually see her more on Gooboora because like I mean, she was like warlike, she just wasn't doing the killing, you know, she was like planning them. Yeah. Yeah, Sometimes I even look at that and wondered like if her and Aris were like, well Scorpio when aries really Yeah, and the like kind of like was just like the feminine aspect of that energy

and Arias is the male aspect of that energy. Something along those lines. It also matches walking Caduceus and yadey Vade and Jester and Hexagram too on leave that and Court Court don't want to forget that one. Because of Jester and Court. I thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah, and there was uh the guy virgin and the guy's name Virgil from The Walking Dead came up and there

was walking in here before? Was that all right? But now now I'm up to Uh, I'll get into Paul rose Pod or however you even say his name, and uh, that would be right here. That's him with Samuel Goldsmith. We'll get into eventually myself, all right. Ul Rosebud again, if I'm even saying, was a metal urgist and a scientific advisor for Springer Vorlog in Germany before and during World War II. He continued in science publishing after the

war with Pergamon Press in Oxford, England. In nineteen eighty six, Arnold Kramish revealed the undercover work of Rosebud for the British during the war in the book The Griffin. Before the outbreak of war, Rosebud hurried into print Otto Han's work on nuclear fission in a German science journal in January of nineteen thirty nine. Rosebud realized the vast destructive potential of what Han, Strassmann and Meetner, if I'm saying that correct, had discovered, and he knew that the research

had been done in Germany. He wanted the rest of the world to know the significance of the work, at least as soon as the Nazi planners did. By rushing into print with Hans's manuscript, he was able to alert the world community of physicists. Sometimes like I mean, isn't that like kind of like a double edged sword, though in itself not saying that should keep it, I just private, But it's just like now you're just handed it to more people that could be potential assholes about it.

know how I came across it. I think I was like trying to see about like something to do with spirit boxes, and somehow like going from one click to the next, I ended up on some guy's YouTube channel who was like trying to He was more of like somebody was just into tech and just randomly, I guess, like maybe I don't know, just thought it was funny or interesting kind of just like wanted it shit on.

I guess on a ghost hunter and covered his spirit box and pointed out somebody that they think specifically like designed it probably like it's not right, and that they actually think that when they use it and show their evidence.

He's like, this is how I actually think he's faking his evidence, and was like showing you how like you could even like fake like the sound of like voices coming in and out of the ghost box, and I'm like, this shit looks I mean to me, I was like, if I heard this on Ghost Adventures, well, ghost Adventures, I questioned it anyway, but like if I heard it somewhere else, I'd be like, yo, like that sounded pretty

fucking legit. And I'm like, you know, you showed everybody how well and easy to do this, Yeah, like you know you're probably actually going to get people who are going to use this.

drawn to him. Then, in nineteen thirty eight, Han and lie and Fritz Strassman discovered nuclear fission, for which Han received the nineteen forty four Nobel Prize for Chemistry. Nucleush fission was the basis for nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. So I mean, I thought it was interesting to mention that nuclear weapons. A graduate of the University of Marlburg, which awarded him a doctorate in nineteen oh one, and Hans studied under Sir William Ramsey.

like who is the will real William Ramsey? So when he sees it pop up here like what the fuck You're like, I was fucking shitting on me. Next, Now what did I do? Faking like, well, it doesn't good. Maybe I should retweeted I should drop it myself, all right, Gradua I graduated, yeah, I said with William Ramsey. Though his work at Springer Verlag, rosebud knew much of the scientific community in Germany, and as a presumed Nazi uh

he had sources of vital intelligence relating to weaponry. In nineteen thirty eight, he had his Jewish wife, Hilde and there if I'm saying that right, hild Or Holed and their only daughter Angela sent to the UK to keep them safe from Nazi harassment. Rose Bud was also invited to stay in the UK, but he decided to keep working in Germany to undermine the Nazi regime. Now, I mean supposedly. I think they were saying that he was like kind of undercover in the Nazis. I think that's

what they're saying with this guy, right. In addition to his own Rosebud helped a number of other families flee the Nazis, including that of the well known Jewish physicist Lies Meaner. Again just so happens to help with I think was he one of the people with nuclear or maybe he was, Maybe it wasn't.

I know that might sound ignorant, but sometimes I do wonder lake if it's like, I mean, I just I don't I would like to know what kind of fucking cameras they were using that didn't get blown away by the nuclear bass blast when they or the atomic bomb when they dropped it. Like I just I need that camera.

Rosebud took up residence in England. He worked for Butterworth Springer, a company set up in response to a scientific advisory board that included Alfred Egerton, Charles Galton Dorwyn who I think you mentioned before, right, Edward Salisbury and Alexander Fleming. When the Butterworth company decided to pull out of the English German liaison, Robert Maxwell acquired seventy five percent, while twenty five percent rested with Rosebud. Wow, how would you

say his name? The company name was changed to Pergamont Press. The partners cooperated and establishing new academic journals until nineteen fifty six. After a disagreement, Rosebud left. Maxwell said Rosebud was an outstanding editor of the European type from whom I learned some of the trade in the early days. So at least they you know, they're trying.

I found that pretty interesting that he was born in uh, god, I don't even want to say this. He was born in Wales and he was the fourth son of Colonel Sir Alfred Mordaunt Egerton or No, Officer of the Rifle Brigade and the Royal Horse Guards and Comptroller to the Duke of Connaught and strath Hearne, and his wife, the Honorable Mary Georgina ormsby Gore, the oldest daughter of William ormsby Gore second Baron Harlock. I mean just you know, just the names, and like it's like they were important.

Who knows if they were. And you know, you're a comptroller. I mean that's kind of like somebody who's like handling the money.

I don't know what the fuck that even means, Joe, what is magneto optic effects?

Laboratory on approach of war in nineteen thirty eight. He served in the role into the post war period. I'm afraid to seek improved laboratory performance through reorganization, but spending much of the war years working on the Manhattan Project,

coordinating the American, British, and Canadian efforts. Darwin was appointed KBE in nineteen forty two, and the KBEs the most excellent Order of the British Empire, and it is a British Order of Chivalry rewarding contributions to the arts and sciences, work with the charitable and welfare organizations, and public service

outside the civil service. It was established by King George the fifth and compromises five classes across both civil and military divisions, the most senior, two of which make the recipient either a Knight if he's a male, or a Dame female. That was a little interesting. Sir Edward James Salisbury was an English botanist. I had to bring him up as soon as this with a botany that just seems like a common thing with some Nazis and ecologists.

Graduated in botany from University College London nineteen oh five. Nineteen thirteen, he obtained a I don't know what this is. Maybe you do know. It's a d dot SC dot a DSc, I don't know what that means with a thesis on fossil seeds, and was appointed as senior lecturer

at East London College. He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society on March fifteenth, nineteen thirty three, and won the Society's Royal Medal in nineteen forty five for his notable contributions to plant ecology and to the study of the British flora. In nineteen thirty six, he was awarded the Veach I'm saying that correctly Memorial Medal of the Royal Horticultural Society and acknowledgment of his book The Living Garden that was done in nineteen thirty five, which

was supposedly very popular. He received the Commander of the Order of British Empire, and in nineteen forty six he was knighted.

knighted for his scientific achievements in nineteen forty four. Another knighted person in nineteen ninety nine, he was named in Time magazine's list of the one hundred most Important People of the twentieth century. Twenty twenty two, he was chosen in the BBC's television poll for determining the one hundred greatest Britons, and in two thousand and nine he was also voted third greatest Scott an opinion poll conducted by SCTV behind only Robert Burns and William Wallace. But I mean,

you know, so these people too. I mean to me, they sounds you got import people rolling with you that.

fucking yeah this this shit too? You know?

where he obtained his PhD in nineteen twenty seven. During World War Two, he worked at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology as a scientific head of ALSOS mission. He successfully reached a German group of nuclear physicists around Werner, Heisenberg and Otto han At these names Hyitenen in advance of

French physicist Jews rocarn. He was also also was also part of the Manhattan Project as well, and was designed to assess ALSOS was also designed to assess the progress of the Nazi atomic bomb project.

a lot of secret societies or into Nordica. You know a bunch of things that we got very big into, like the business aspect and checking who owned these places, the registered agents and all this stuff. And you're going to see the same exact ones that popped up for Secret Societies and the Nordica shady stuff, same ones. Again. It's just very, very weird. But it's going to take some time, especially to like kind of show like the whole circle and show all the slides so that one. Unfortunately,

you're gonna have to wait till part two. And uh, Lisa has some other stuff upper sleeve as well, so yes, uh, part two will definitely be probably about another whole hour and you know, fifteen hours worth, you know, so it'll be a whole other episode. The crazy thing is is that I swear, really swear to I almost did you did come up with this idea before this the whole shit with these Yes.

this is gonna drop as an extra show. It's Friday. I'm gonna try if I can't get it dropped for tomorrow, definitely by Sunday, and hopefully we'll be recording part two next week and that will just drop, you know, Saturday a Sunday as well. You know. And to be totally honest with you, because of this being in you know, a topic and honestly, I do want to try to at least expose a little bit, no I he'p using exposed, maybe shine a light more on like what this was

really going on? Over here with this name that's not really being talked about because it's just automatically associated with something else. Right, It's like, you know, this is a good time to maybe put out the name, but with something of actual, some depth and rabbit hole shit to it that you can prove and not be like I just think.

known for coming up with a lot of shit too, And it just, I don't know, it just seemed like, really, you know, my whole thing.