Aleksander Czeszkiewicz- Our Science is Catching Up-Our History is Older

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We're talking about that. Then in the second one we talked mostly about science, philosophy of science, the limitations, how it all works, and how science is never in the present form, in the current form able to go and achieve the truth, the final truth or something like that. And today I wanted to compile all of that knowledge and also give plenty of new things. And as you

mentioned with my school. I started a bachelor degree with history in history here at my local University of Gdynsk, and I was actually positively surprised because I was given my book to some like professors doctors in history ancient one and they said that they do not agree as scholars with everything with lots of civilizations atlantis, but they were pretty happy that people are that much interested at my age when it comes to this all the history,

which is, according to them, the least wanted one. Everyone when it comes to history wants to you know, learn world wars and stuff like that, but when it comes to this prehistory, when it comes to like younger generations, it isn't that very often that people are interested. So I was welcomed to some extent. I was given like private schedule to meet my interest to have specializations in you know, ancient times, ancient.

you know, my research via books, internet, et cetera. And how as it's mentioned in the title, the science is finally catching up with, you know, all the conspiracy theories about our most deepest periods of our history, of our past, with especially prehistory dates like the dates of Atlantis before first civilizations and so on and so forth. So I think I will start with.

I got access to the library, et cetera. And for instance, when I was writing a few years ago, like five years ago, my book an automatically modern humans were Apperiod about two hundred thousand years ago according to genetic studies two hundred thousand, and again first settlements ten thousand BCS or twelve thousand years ago, ancient summer about five thousand

years ago. So still there was a huge gap, right, now when it comes to like the current academic knowledge, it is stated that an automically modern humans appeared three hundred fifteen thousand years ago, so more than one hundred thousand years before, you know, just five or six years ago, not two hundred thousand, but three hundred fifteen thousand, with an additional note that probably they diverged from other home in it about half a million years ago, half a

million years ago, and still civilization just about five thousand years ago, so still huge gap in our history that I'm explaining, I've explained in the first episode and of course in my book and other works. And what is interested interesting. What is interesting in that is we were given some like textbooks and academic books to learn about prehistory, and I got one very cool one from two thousand

and four. And in two thousand and four it was stated, I remember, you know, the exact quote, that an automookly modern humans appeared fifty thousand years ago, maximum of one

hundred thousand. So you see how in the last twenty years or twenty five or something, you know, we took the roots of anatomically modern humans similar to us right now, not like different home inies previous like ape men or something like that, but anatomically modern human genetically speaking from fifty thousand to one hundred thousand, then to two hundred thousand, and now to about three hundred fifteen thousand, two half

a million years ago. So we are taking the roots of humanity back so much like in the last twenty five thirty years. So imagine how our knowledge will be in like the next twenty or fifty years and how you know, back or maybe not, we'll take the roots of humanity. So I've always asked when I first when I was writing my book, we're asking myself, you know how all this civilization like why only five thousand tiears ago? Approximately when two hundred thousand years of anatomicly modern humans.

And I think that right now we are even more and more taking.

fifteenth December, twelfth December something like that. So about a month ago, there was an an archaeologist as criologists, Irvin Finkel on the Lex Friedman podcast, and he mentioned that this is his own like controversial theory as an academic, but even thinkl isn't like just a researcher alternative history now, he is, you know, true academic person, very strigged, very conservative, and he said that we might be on a blink

of a bit of revolution. That the writing system was not first found in ancient Summer or Proto Sumerian scrut but it may be as old as gobeicly tape, so it may be taken back from let's say thirty five hundred BC to about nine thousand BC and more. And he said it's his controversial opinion, but he's very let's say conservative, and he mentioned some evidence for that. And at gobekletape, you know this famous side about twelve years ago with all of these mega leaves that change a

bit are understanding when it comes to human history. We found some stones with some kind of inscriptions similar to proto Proto Sumerian cunniform script that, according to this assyriologists, may be actually used as some kind of stamps, you know, stone engraved with some kind of script, you know, put on clay like a stamp. But of course these clay tablets didn't survive because it isn't that much again, because I'm telling you right now like very academic stuff. Because

before we were talking about conspiracies and alternative history. But the more you know, I was attending the classes and the more I'm learning the academic stuff right now, the more I actually found I found what I was thinking before, the more like it's all, you know, the evidence comes together that what you know, Graham Hankok was talking about is or decades ago, what other alternative historians, what I've

been speculating about for the last few years. The more I'm in this academic the more I'm learning academic stuff, the more connections I see that it's making the picture. So contrary to the belief of many skeptics that the more you learn academic stuff, the less you believe in loss of civilizations or in Atlantis or something. Maybe it's not that I'm more believing, because you know, I did

my own research before. But I see connections and I see how you know, we will be changing very soon our history, that it's coming, you know, everything is being taken back more and more by thousands of years. We are talking about here, let's say sumerianscript about thirty five hundred BC. The starting point maybe before one thousand BC, you know, the earliest Proto script or something like that.

But now we are taking nine thousand years so twice the time as that the times of approximately Atlantists, and we are saying that the script is taken back.

or lost civilizations are plausible. And I you know, when I'm saying that right now, I'm thinking that in twenty years, thirty years, maybe fifty years, the theory that civilization or some kind of sophisticated culture started let's say ten or twenty or more thousand years ago will be plausible. So this is huge if you've got some questions. If not, I will go and take it further, I will dream Alexander.

of understanding of state secrets. Right, So if we're going to take state secrets as an example and then just put that back into history, things start to make a little bit more sense when when you see the library of Alexandria being burned down and all of these different civilizations sort of keeping all of the knowledge of metallurgy to themselves, like this was a highly valuable state secret.

That state secrecy institution has sort of been in place since the Bronze Age, since way back when, and I don't think academia is ready to, you know, fully come out and say, hey, yeah, there's kind of been a state secret thing with us and all this transatlantic travel going on in prehistory that we can't really talk about because it affects the political situation today. But all of these different ideas really come apart when you realize how

much older civilization is. Then we're being given right now. So I don't know if that was a question, but.

to stop and even Alexander, they're trying to stop this the mythopoetic human like more quadrivium like nature of what the academia even was back in the day. So it's like, I wonder, how can even in the next twenty years, especially as the powers that be try to control the narratives, how you know, even though we're expanding things by thousands of years, Like how really, like really do we think that we can like all of a sudden.

But from my own experience, maybe it's just a few months, and you know, not with like tens or dozens of profit source, but just if you I've experienced that people even you know, at this level, some people are very open, very curious, and not everywhere, but of course at the higher level, like publishing level, if you wanted to publish something very controversial or something, yes, of course, but the

conspiracy isn't everywhere. And still, you know, when we try to make an appearance that there is no conspiracy, things are getting through this new discovery is this neey stuff? So I didn't want to know to start with such conspiracy. And I think that you know, not in entire academia. There is a conspiracy even you know I mentioned that,

you know, I'm on such podcasts, et cetera. They were asking, you know, ancient aliens and stuff like that, lots of civilizations and what they said about you know, being academic, being an academic historian. And as I mentioned, there is a conspiracy, especially when it comes to let's say Polish history, because maybe you know, here in Poland ancient times, prehistoric, no one cursed because it's not.

are very accessible to casual tourists. But you know, when they got some kind of a paratus like glider or something, you know, they were men in black, came men in black of course as a meta for some kind of agents, and they said, no, you cannot do that, better relief, it will be in dangerous. I know people you know firsthand who were telling me that, and had a few of such things.

analyze everything. And the same is with the historian. Even though you have some ideas, even though you have some opinions in peer reviewed papers, in the official academic statements, you need to be you know, using historical methodologists, you need to be objective. No matter what do you believe in Atlantis or not, you need to follow the guide. So, as I mentioned before, we had this conversation about limitations

of science. That's why I believe, you know, science will never at the current firm come to the you know, final truth like you know, spiritual even truth, metaphysical truths.

et cetera, different words. But actually, when you know, I went studying, and you know, I know a few of academic members of high ranking here in Poland, at least I've experienced that these kinds of people that are, oh, we need to debank Graham ham Kok, Oh, Graham Kuangkok is racist, et cetera. These are you know, just as in politics, there are some very strong voices.

to that. Even when it comes to actually such things that academia should you know, everything is in the current part I know, for instance, the chronol and day things of ancient Egypt. There is still a debate and you know, there is one academic group that thinks there were some kind of one hundred years in the ancient Egyptian history, and there is the other group who is rejecting entire one hundred years of history, which in the result is completely changing the chronology.

I'm like one of the best. But when it comes to for instance, some there will be there will come a current and I cannot do my own mechanic magic, mechanical magic because she would say no, it's not like that or something, and I will get sued by her. So like you know what I mean, So the same you need to follow the guidelines in the academic but you can have like your own opinions and you know,

your own stuff. It will be sometimes ridiculed at such antil I wanted, you know, to omit for a moment, this conspiracy power, just to show you know how everything from my own experience, how I experienced and how it shocked me because I also before had this. You know, oh I will go, I will be called a pseudo scientist or something. It will be so only the borrowing

stuff there wouldn't be anything. And the same the more I'm learning from these academic books, like I started, you know, more heavily before I also was reading academic books, but I am more heavily focused because of the classes on the academic stuff. The more I see how actually, finally on this level, the bs of the bankers that oh Atlantis never existed, and so one is stopping making any sense because you see, for instance that at such a high academic level, people are very open.

completely ridiculed. Like when we are talking in some kind of you know, academic de bunker, we'll say, oh, it's all bs.

as in to conspire, don't you think? And and that's what a lot of people don't understand is we continually want to talk about what like maybe the more new age idea of what Atlantis is in comparison to tamaeis from Plato and his idea of Atlantis in how it stems very in between to how A Graham Hancock talks.

But then can you can you speak to me on how you deal with the hermeneutics of the subjects in like your own historical lenses, because that is something that then when you add in the ability to fire and having all these different academic agents like the bureaucracy of administration, and the idea of trying to tenure yourself, is that you're going to want to maybe conform to a certain idea so it's easier for you to get a job

and be able to pay your bills. So you're not a professor who's in his car and then teaching his students. Because that seems to be a massive thing that's going on, not only in the United States but across the world.

with many books here in Poland. So you know, I with all of this because I started, before I started studying, I was into you know, conspiracy theories, alternative history. So I'm with a mindset that, you know, okay, I won't be like very high ranking professors something. I'm just going

and doing it for myself. But when it comes to let's say, conforming, the only thing I'm conforming to is, for instance, it was university's initiative if I'm a writer to write some articles on subjects of ancient history pre history, because not many people in Poland are writing on that. And I'm okay, And they said even I can write sometimes about Atlantis or the Pyramids. But what I need to do I need to know to get into these guidelines.

I need to know to be critical of everything, and you know, but privately I'm still you know, into conspiracy theories, into theories, and I will come to the conspiracy theories and to conspire in a moment. But what I mean, and yes, when writing this purific article, I will be critical. I even said, I can be you know, do a critical analysis of something because it's a good exercise, you know, of logic of analysis. And I think, as I mentioned, the job of a historian is to be extremely critical

of everything. We may live in Atlantis and everything. But it's like a job. If you are a police officer. You also cannot you know, oh, I will you know, bit this person because it's a bad person. No, you need to calm down and you know, get this person handcuffed. So I think it's the same with a job or just being a historian, because you know, in plenty of

people's mind, historian is of course not a job. So I will conform with these articles, but you know my books are not conforming, or what I'm talking here is also not conforming. But okay, I agree that if I want to know an article for a journal, I need to you know, do a little bit of mind bending exercise. And okay, let's be critical for a mont. I think it's a good exercise, even for any kind of research. You know, to try to get into the issues of

the most extreme skeptic. I sometimes do that, you know, check what the skeptics, the bunkers have to say about it.

little bit of conspiracy there. But you know, the idea of loss civilization or our now speculations about is his older cannot be older? Can there be atlantis? It's not a conspiracy theory. It's you know, just.

So that's another thing for our viewers, you know, to think when someone is called conspiracy theoriess, is he really that are his theories about conspiracy or maybe he's just speculating, he's just questioning things, asking questions.

because you're saying about the openness. Because of the openness in our case here in Poland from the West, people you know are calmer and they don't care that much about being very strict. And if you can like mother and let's say his storians, academics with like previous ones previously like ninety nine percent tried to be extremely strictive and if it was, you know, not in their hearts that you know you need to be like that. It's like, you know this like modern kind of grind set that

I need to grind. I cannot have emotion, you know, this polarization that you know, no feelings, no spirituality, just you know, I need to know be the best discipline, et cetera. So I think it was like that, but within academia that you needed to be you know, you need to double check everything one hundred times, you need to be so precise, so exact that then you have all of these German mostly German philosophers who when you're reading you don't understand what they are talking about because

they are so precise. They are even creating their own words to describe some kind of phenomenon, because you know, you must be precise, you must be so kind. This extreme extreme, someone would say, is discipline extreme, you know, being critically extreme. So I think it's a little bit that she said that because publicly everything is more open minded, it's changing the academy. But I would say that, you know, there isn't much pressure from the public to do that.

much of the previous time survived until nowadays? And I was speculating, and I had the opinion that, you know, when it comes to the rate of decay of casual things, things from ten thousand years ago, twenty thousand years ago, one hundred thousands or something like that, there is nothing much and you know with this idea, plenty of skeptics, even at lower actually educational levels of my journey, like in high school, or some people say, no, it's not

the case. Lots of things are surviving. Look at how many let's say, flint stones we have, for instance, from prehistory, or at how many tablets we have from Mesopotamia. So this was like semi advanced level, like advanced level of confidence.

single cities. Let's say there were twenty great cities at this time, and from this time period, we have only tablets from two cities, and we know that there is not all of them because for instance, they are being numbered and we see that huge number is missing. Or for instance, only these tablets with cunniform scripts survived to our times because the city was burnt down. Armies attacked burnt down the city. Of course they were inscribed these

inscriptions in clay. Clay with heat was you know, hardened, and because it hardened, it survived to our times. But still you see, at such high academic levels, people are telling you that now we do not have plenty and it's like five one to three percent of all the tablets that possibly existed during these chronological times except by the academia. So at this advanced level, you know, there is this notion that we do not know much about our past, that we have only like one three five

percent of the evidence for that. Or just let's say herod TuS vision of the pyramid was one two thousand years after they were built, and b it was completely you know, just you know, random guys were telling the legends to him, and you know they wanted maybe you know, to show the strength of Egypt or something plenty. You know, it's much more complicated than that, but you know, just to see that, you know, when the critics are attacking Rahamhankok.

When the critics are attacking any kind of idea of and all their civilization, they say, you know, they give these arguments which on semi professional level, even you know, let's say you've read a lot, or you are a high school teacher or something, are completely valid and theories are breaking down. Let's say, but when you start, you know, reading advanced academic textbooks about you know, a single city of summer or a s period of ancient consumer, you

see that. Okay, we did not know much, and academics know that, and it is very well known in higher circles. The same with the previously mentioned how many species? You know,

how many howminies there were? You know, right now are the only times we are alone as hominies on earth because before that, let's say, a few tens of thousands of years ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago, there were at least a few how many species, not only let's say us, but at one point the biggest number that we know about, but it may be even bigger, is we plus five hominy species. And right now you see, for instance, oh giants, what stupid conspiracy theory people's people

believe in? Giants, you know, academic people or the bankers are telling that, But we coexisted with others. One home many, for instance, with whom we co existed was Homoflores Census. We know about him, this Hobbits one meter tall. So if we anatomically modern humans co existed from one meter toll beings home in its advanced maybe there were also giants that we haven't discovered yet. And of course the bankers will say, no, we will never we know everything

about hominutes. It's not true. And if you start, the more you study, even the academic one, even let's say for a moment omit conspiracy theory, that's you know, the biggest clue of this episode. Let's form an omit conspiracy theory. But even if you learn more and more of let's say, academically accept technoledge, you see that those the bankers are not right and do not know much, and that it is commonly accepted that we do not know much about

our preyer history, about ancient civilizations. And right now we're taking the roots of civilization back by many times. Maybe some questions here we're laughing.

different narratives, even the commonly accepted paradigm. It's not that people say, oh, paradigm staste and there is no paradigm shift Okay, there is not yet a paradigm shift, but the current paradigm is constantly under pressure. Maybe, of course we do not change. Let's say tomorrow there will be a consensus that Atlanta schools.

in the eighteen forties. And I was saying that for many years, and this year, I, you know, found true sources that are telling us that yes, we didn't know almost anything about Mesopotama, so the same could be about any other kind of civilization, Atlantis, Lemuria, the other kind.

But yes, as you mentioned these narratives, it is one of the coolest things I'm learning right now and also the biggest shocked to me that it's not the job of a historian is not about, you know, going into this narrative, but actually the true job of a historian would be criticizing a narrative, showing this is only a narrative, This isn't you know true, This isn't a consensus when

it comes to knowledge. So yes, and you know I'm open to do that, so you know, it's as I mentioned, I wanted such a conversation and a little bit omission from conspiracy theories because I was positively shocked at what is going on here, at least in Poland, maybe though in some other countries it's a bit different, maybe in the West, but maybe at some university is similar because you know, everything is being criticized, even you know, everyone

was talking, Oh you're you are not telling about history, you are your channel is not his, even you know, I had a channel fear in Poland, and I wasn't very heavy into conspiracy theories. I was into ellon atlant Is, megal expiramis and stuff like that. And they said, oh, conspiracy theory channel, it's not history. And I said, where is the conspiracy theory else, you know speaking maybe pyrabtal or older, maybe megal is our order, et cetera. And you know, it's it was very shocking to me to

experience that. But right now we are analyzing at classes some very cool articles, one's so called of the best as examples, and they are doing the same.

theories and stuff like that. But let's say, because I will forget about what I was talking about again within that summer was the sorry, but you know, I think I explained it very well and answer to your question. But again the academic casual thing is that you know, ancient Zumer was the first. But actually right now I got some cool news.

thirty thousand people thousands of years before Submerians. It's still impressive if we are looking from you know, academic standpoint of how our history unfollowed this very deep pass and even you know, ancient Sumerian cities at you know, the highest had similar numbers of thirty ten thousand people, twenty thousand people and so forth.

But the only thing that it's again this methodology of science, you know, the strictness maybe you know, bureaucracy and stuff like that, we cannot accept them as civilizations because they didn't have script. They had script, but we haven't deciphered them yet. And because we have we haven't deciphered this script yet, we cannot say it's a script. So it's you know, shockingly, someone would call stupid, you know, crazy to think like that because we haven't deciphered something that

looks like script. And it really it's not like just some kind of carvings. No, it looks like script really, but just because we haven't deciphered it we cannot say that thousand years before Sumerians there was a civilization in the eastern Europe about it's even a bit more than thousand years.

no Atlantis. But if we are again to goblicly tepees, we just took the roots of script back, maybe we do not. Again this mentioned I mentioned these cunny formed tablets, very famous ones and Nucky Gilgamesh, flood and so forth. But as I mentioned before, most of them survived because cities were burned, and not all cities were burned or

you know, were being destroyed in different manners. So it's like one to five percent of all the let's say, clay tablets from the Ancient Summer and later civilizations of an in Mesopotamia. But you know, and again even even conservative archeologists and assyriologists I mentioned this, even Finkle guy are telling you, okay, they didn't survive, but we see that probably it was used as a stamp to you know, just engrave this kind of from script in a different

manner and to the tablets didn't survive. But again the script could have been dated not to do three thousand, three thousand BC, but to more than nine thousand BC. So we are taking the roots of everything back the same. You know, before I was very into the early let's say, conspiracy theories Irish Fondanik and you know how they tried to debank all of that, Graham Hancock later, you know,

Robert Shaw and his dating of these things. And actually in the seventies and eighties, the main argument against such things and against academics even going into you know, our the permits older, are the pyramits from ten thousand and five hundred BC? Or did Atlantis exist? Was that they didn't have anything to reference that people of ten thousand BC could build the Sphinx.

You can you know zoom and yes this or the other ones that it was again very conservative, higher ranking assyriologists even filmclas said that this stone was used to actually see even its comparison with some later examples of true you know cylinder seals as was mentioned, but kind of stones were used to engrave these in clay, so yes, thanks for showing it. And again the goba Ce type show that you know, hunter gatherers could build mega lifts.

So maybe there were also civilizations much older than that.

So who knows, you know, script nine thousand BCS, So who knows if maybe we'll find soon some kind of Atlantis or something. As I mentioned, most of the Middle Eastern discoveries, the famous you know zicuas everything was only found in eighteen forties, and only because in the Middle East, in the region of Mesopotamia it was there were very good conditions. Because it's another thing I'm saying, you know, in my Daijavving already been my first chapter is about

how our modern civilization would decompose. Let's say, if there was a cataclysm or if everything was abandoned by humans. And I mentioned that it would be pretty fast, let's say a few thousand years, maybe ten twenty thousand years. They would be of course some specific materials that would last longer, but it wouldn't be that long.

well preserved. That's why we have moonmies, for instance, movies of ten thousand even years in some kind of deserts, not the Egyptian one, but you know, in the New Himalayas, Tibetan stuff and so on.

say twenty three hundred BC. They knew, we found at the twenty two meters that it is from this period. So imagine how deep beneath the ground would be the Atlantean layer of you know, some kind of anything that was preserved for tens of ten thousand, ten thousand years, approximately twelve thousand actually.

home minies. Again, I remember critics saying, oh, I do not know shit about prehistory, about homonies, or about our let's say two hundred thousand yas or millions of years. We have plenty of examples from all around the world. But actually, when you truly analyze that, again, we have plenty of examples, but sometimes they span millions of years

between each other. Sometimes we found one place with one hundred thousands of human cut stones, let's say this flint like tools, one hundred thousand at.

even within academic circles. And the more you see that there is even within academic not including conspiracies or any kind of bureaucracy or something like that, there is a huge, huge potential that there was something more in our past that you know, there was some kind of civilization like Atlantis on whatever level of advancements they were. So yeah, there is some example.

digging everywhere. So you see, there is a huge potential. The same with out of Africa. There even right now they're saying, okay, out of Africa, but it's changed that there were a few waves even before humans that how minutes before us already left the Africa millions of years ago, so it's it's all being a little bit updated from the time zone. Even I was shocked that, you know,

during such classes, we're we're having alternative views both. I remember to out of Africa theory one but it was very criticized and yes I've seen it was with some flaws, but it was mentioned still at the first day of history. Wow, and then we have another one when it comes to here the our Polish region these Slavs, because the consensus is that Slavs appeared about six b six century eighty, so very late, just before the Middle Ages, and plenty of people say no, these Slavs were here for many

thousands of years, et cetera. And we were seeing and we were shown that, Okay, this is what we are learning that Slavs were very late appeared here in Poland or in Eastern Europe. But there is at least one professor, high ranking Polish professor, who's thinking the other way that it couldn't be the case. So we were shown a few alternatives.

And the only reason anybody ever knows about it because they leak it just because if they're mostly a mundane person who's just doing their job, and then they tell some people and then no one ever knows about it.

And so I think when like the article you pulled up about the four hundred thousand year old fire making, it's like, how many times are these things happening but nobody hears about it just because of how fast and due to the techno oligorical AI system, how fast can they scan regions and send out their men in black to go pick up those things? As conspiracy theory, it's not conspiracy at all. I can think of three direct references of those things happening.

was no conspiratory part. But in the middle part in between, have conspiracy, have just you know, no conspiracy we know that you know about I don't know, depending on the museum, depending on the archive, seventy to eighty percent is still let's say clay tablets or something undeciphered being somewhere, you know, lockdown. And as I mentioned, the knowledge let's say from the

academic textbooks. It's based on what is de siffered, what is being you know classified, and you know what is being described each kind of piece that we find underground. But if you know at some kind of sites museum, eighty percent is still.

As it comes down, and so you can only read so much, You only have the ability to integrate so many articles into your own papers.

myself everything. So as I mentioned, it's a side quest, you know, you know, gets check out and again and I mentioned, it's you know, for my own personal research business stuff, you know, books, et cetera, like videos, media content creation. So I said, it's you know, another fun because hearing polant history is like something boring, you know, not useful in personal life.

side request making you know, even a bit. You know this, I got private studies schedule, you know, a bit more lessons but you know, under tutoring of a process or et cetera, and you know the article, so I you know, making okay, more side quest pydequest. But you know, I'm being independent when it comes to everything else. And as I mentioned before, it's not a risk for me that they won't like me. I was going there that they

will not like my research. And I was positively shocked to some extent that they say, Okay, they do not agree with this, this and that, but you know, such speculation, such interest in these topics, ancient texts and such knowledge, it's valuable to them. And they say, even if it is considered pseudoscience or something by others, it is still they are happy that people are interested in history in our past because you know, even as academic historians, they

want to you know, people be more interested. You know, it's like they're probably from above that they need to, you know, make people interested in history.

biggest secrets of the universe. That's all spirituality, metaphysics, how it all came about. I won't say that I'm going with a thesis that was problematic forout the ears that you know, I need to do thesis, et cetera. But you know, I don't have like strict thesis that history is older and I'm going to prove that and research that. And no, I'm just you know, it's I'm very fluid when it comes to research. You know, I'm very open minded.

I just want, you know, to show this openness that there's oh maybe one thesis on some level would be show the possibilities both when it comes to the history the best, but also when it comes to science existence, everything that exists, like physics, metaphysics, spirituality. I want to show that there is. I want to show the possibilities because throughout the years of my education, of my life, I've always seen that people are very close to possibilities.

I cannot do that. It's impossible said, it's true, it's not told we know everything. No, I want to show that, show the possibilities. I sometimes, you know, see the possibilities maybe spiritually or something like that. I want just to show possibilities, not that there is much more according to when it comes to in comparison to some people's thinking. But I want to, you know, explore all the possibilities, like when it comes to spirituality, existence, philosophical metaphysical ones. Yes,

I want it. I don't know Nick how long we can go.

very here skeptical. I would say that we have much higher percentage of conspiracy theory people here because people were not only before under partitions and they wanted plenty of times to change our history. They wanted to eliminate Polish culture, germanize us, rucifies us, so make us Russian and German, you know, no Polish language. And then later you know, the war's First World War, okay, in the first inter between the wars, then the Second World War, and then after the war we were.

We are under communistic regime, etc. So hew, people older ones, because modern ones there's you know, still rise in you know, everything we know is true. Your conspiracy series. Yes, there are people of course like that right now. But I would say that in most older people forty plus forty plus and even you know what I would say, mostly forty plus people are very skeptical. They say you need to do that, it's something wrong. If they say it's better you stay at home something, you know, so it

So we're talking about conspiracies. We have we at least used to have different mindset when it comes to such things. But if we have some time the first thing, because we had like presentations. Everyone was ordered here at the university first yeah, first semester to make some presentation about something that interests them in the ancient past. Of course, not everything, but I said, and they knew I had. I have a book research about great flood and right

now I will be soon. I like, I'm in the middle, maybe the bigger middle, sixty percent in the research about flood similarities between ancient Mesopotamian sources before the Bible, the Bible, but also for instance, ancient India texts. And actually, when I showed these presentations in front of the class and in front of course of one of the professors, he was shocked because no one here in Poland talked or published about that. So they ordered me that I should

write an article. We reviewed this first one in my career about you know, similarities of the flood and how the transfer of knowledge. And I've started this research and I was shocked again when it comes to you know, game changers, conspiracy conspiracies about how we understand our past because we think, okay, right now, I think it's mostly within our circles common knowledge that you know, Sumerian or Acadian versions of the flood story or similar to the Bible.

But what if I told you that, in my opinion it is the Biblical version could be even considered a plaguiarism of this previous version. And I was, you know, very very shocked. And again plenty of people are comparing the Biblical, for instance, version with the epic of a tra Hazies, epic of Gilgamesh and other sources and saying, oh,

this proves Biblical Lot was real. But they are not considering that the Biblical version actually was written down somewhere between five hundred to three hundred BC, so not that long ago. And the oldest Mesopotamian versions are for instance, from the eighteen hundreds, so a thousand, five hundred ye is before that, but the oldest one Sumerians are from about twenty six hundred twenty three hundred, depending on the version, et cetera. About it is, of course everything it's relative.

We do not know exact dates when it comes to these very very distant pass but it's you that before.

Mesopotamian versions. Depending on the version, there are different things. And again seven rishis. I think we even talked about it in the first episode here on the Awkward Project, that the same number of people is taken in India,

Mesopotamia and the Bible. But I was shocked that, for instance, even the name Noah was probably stupidly taken from Mesopotamian sources, because even I found a few Asseologists, I don't remember their name exactly, but a few academic people saying that Noah is not like name, like the biblical name of the Noah was actually an epithet of atra Hesis from

previous story. So it seems like the Biblical writers where you know, writing down copying these Sumerians Sumerian or Acadian or later Babylonian flat stories, and they were so maybe stupid, maybe they you know, were not very well worsed in these languages like Acadian Sumerian, that they even took it was epithet, so it means that, for instance, the great Utrahyasis, so the great is the epithet or the strong Atrohsis, and Noah seems to be one of the epithets of Atrahyasis.

So they even plagiarized the name unknowingly. Probably they were just you know, writing things down. They didn't understand the full stories, so they copied everything. So again I was actually shocked about that. I'm still in the process of research because there's much more to that, and I would say I am even I am intending in the near future even to go into the entire Genesis and you know, books of the Old Testament to show that maybe they

are also plagiarized from the earlier Mesopotamian sources. So yeah, that's crazy. Not plenty of people know that. But one last thing about the flood, I was also conspiracy theory this time that you know, how the flood story, either in Mesopotamia or in the Bible, that the arc was somewhere after the flood in the high mountains, whether it was the famous Mount arad Zagros or another one, depending

on the story. And from these mountains, people from the arc started against civilization, and you know how no lessic revolution started, so the first sedentary lifestyle, you know, the times of the Gobaktepe and so forth. It started in the mountains, mountains and highlands, not in the lowlands that were later in which later Sumerian cities appeared. It all started us in these stories of the flood in high mountains, in the highlands, and from then from these kind of highlands,

first domesticated plants went down. So again conspiracy maybe some kind of flood was real, and civilization at the Northic revolution kicks started again from you know, some kind of let's say arc was on this mountain. People went down from the mountains through highlands and then back gave the civilization to the lowlands and then later first civilization of at least this region the ancient summer appeared. So plenty of interesting stuff, right yeah, nice, Yeah, that was.

like that, and it's post Akkadian origin. So again you've got all of the elements of the Atom and Eve stories put all into the seal and they were you know, distributed widely, so it was sort of understood that this could be one of these earlier stories that.

be conspiratorial. That can be broken down academically and symbolically, so to not just leave the historical framework of what literary the literary, you know, like people want to deem this is like, oh, the flood had to happen in real life. It's like those things happen within the unconscious

and subconscious and conscious mind of the human person. So it's then through the symbols of those things that was on screen where we can truly understand the psyche, thus the collective psyche of our of humanity as a whole, especially in the time frames that we're in right now, where we are always stemming to be in everyday apocalypse, especially in the United States. I can't speak for Poland, but it's such an interesting.

But I agree. And also into these topics, you know, the heroes journey and stuff like that. That's for another conversation, because the flat is also about cosmology. You know, there's plenty of stuff about that that you know, it's too much for today, sorry, but again I'm also into these topics. These are great topics, but I want to historically go that, Okay, this may be they took the universal themes from before, but we have historically, we can historically prove that they

took them and it wasn't that. Okay, they also created them because we see how the transmission of knowledge went and you know how, for instance, the number of people taken onto the arc of K seven.

of layers. Okay, this is the metaphorical layer, mythological, psychological, but this is a layer.

near her. So I mean that's kind of like playing with the image in my opinion, cutting that out on the other side. Oh right, he see what I'm getting at. You're removing on the other side. Now you don't see a snake and it's all that's definitely got to be Adam and Eve. Well maybe maybe that's the Caduceus pulled apart now, I mean I don't know.

being told throughout all cultures. And it's not a perennial story, meaning it's not one that happens literally, but stems throughout the entire planet, Which is then why I I've always thought that out of Africa theory it was a complete notther nonsense that it's like, okay, we're going to try to tell everybody that everything stem from this one place, even though the planet is this.

symbolic stories throughout the entire planet.

astro theology astrology. I found, not myself, but after other researchers, that history seems to repeat, at least to some extent through zodical ages, like through the procession of the equinoxies of the twenty five thousand, nine hundred and twenty years

of the Platonic grade year. And if we divide it into twelves of the x science not thirteen thirteen actually doesn't make sense with this at least discreplining history, but twelve it makes And I found after, for instance, David will Cook a few examples of repeated history in the next cycle. So two one hundred and sixty years after that similar Like again we are talking about universal stuff, so we could say similar energy, similar archetypes, but completely different.

There was ancient Rome and not modern modern but let's say nineteen and twentieth century history of the USA. We still the same motives, the same dark characters, you know, similar errors being made. So again it's a very interesting one. And you've mentioned about the harmony of this fist. So I'm also mentioning about the geometry of the Solar system. And actually I think I need to add that to my website because already in high school we needed to write essays on I was having history.

the golden ratio, so it was epic. We may have, like I had polished presentation about it, but it's crazy everywhere you know, not maybe exactly to you know ten the simal place, but approximately it's very very harmonic, very geometric, as I mentioned for free to one hundred and eight golden ratio everywhere in the solar system. So already back there. And when it comes to this word religion, essay I did about consciousness as the source of the universe, analyzing

you know, different philosophical and religious thoughts. So already in high school they threatened me that, oh, you know, someone at a higher level won't accept them, and I won't pass.

for instance, to reach people's auras in high school or later. So, but I do not have like strict that every day or every something I'm practicing. I'm more like suddenly something cool happens. But I say, for many years, when it comes to systematically, I was having dream journals, like I have twelve or something this like like a few books of dream journals. I did that for many years. But I found out that if I'm not that strict with it, it's getting better when it comes to dreams.

But what's important about practice is that it's a dedication, and that it's a dedication.

And also I would say that right now, I've been, but I'm again getting a little bit in balance with this you know, verse trigged irrational thinking and irrationality spirituality because in the past, like past few years ago, I was too much, because I went again from this atheistic agnostic like in the material world and then suddenly so crazy spiritual things that I would say I went out of balance into spirituality, not being grounded enough with you know, logic, rationalism, et cetera.

philosophy of science. We mentioned that we need to talk about Atlantis.

our copy and paste my name and surname. I'm a bit on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, but maybe just by typing, you know, copying my name in Sturnam, you will find me probably faster on some other interviews, like bigger ones, because my English social media isn't big right now, but you know, I had this work, so I will try to make it better because my Polish one is significantly bigger.

But I want right now to focus small on the Polish one, on the English one, and soon and right now, because I'm on a little bit podcast journey, you can find me on a few bigger channels, but not all are published yet, so you will find me probably on some channels that you follow soon.

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