Ep 105 - Beyond the Barrel: Exploring Central Waters Brewing's Lesser-Known Beers

Yeah , we are once again visiting Central Waters , Central

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If you , ladies and gentlemen , if you didn't listen to that one , that was our saint patrick's day . Yes , show , go back and listen those yes we learned why the leprechauns are angry . Yes , so all right . So a japanese rice lager . This should be kind of an interesting thing . Yes , I found that there are five different Ode .

Ode , it's like a series then , yeah , and they're all lagers . There's a Vienna style , a rye , a corn , a rice and just the lager . Okay , so it says there may be other variations of Odie beers , such as those brewed in honor of Ashley Anderson , with proceeds going toward her treatment and recovery .

I was going to say , is that a good thing ? Is that a lot ? Because normally your rice beers are some big brand beers Like Inhouser Bush . Well , you know , in that arena . All right , now I don't know how to say this word D , be careful how you say this one , I don't even know .

Mashed and naturally carbonated , this light and refreshing lager finishes pleasantly dry and bubbly , perfect for sipping and celebrating . Well , there you go . It's like a party , party in a can , party in a can Very light color . I mean you can see through that bad boy , this is like one sheet above clear water .

This one reminds me of the aroma , reminds me of last week a little bit . There's not much there . No Gosh , I hope this is good . Well , here we go to the rice lager . Well , there's flavor . Do you know how many rice lagers we've had Intentionally ? Yeah , probably not many Scored Probably not many , not many .

I'd have to look on Untappd for that information , but there's probably not a whole lot . Yeah , this is on a weird note . I don't think this is like a really popular style that a lot of craft brewers are jumping to , and there's probably not a lot of bourbon barrel aged Japanese rice lagers Probably not .

Oof , wow , because I've always , I think I've always heard . Now , I apologize if this is wrong , but I always thought I heard that sometimes they use rice because it's cheaper . Oh , again , I don't know if that's true and I'm not just talking about Central Waters , I mean , there's any in general , in general , and that could be wrong .

But they use a massive amount . A massive amount .

Yeah , I'm going to have to let you start on this one too . Oh boy , yeah ,

it's very light in the aroma , very light in the flavor , but it's not extra crispy . Yeah , I'm not exactly sure . It's not like bacon , not like bacon , crispy bacon . I'm not crunching Uh-uh , I don't have to chew my beer . Nope , I agree with you there . Maybe it's that first word .

Uh , what would you tell us ? Tastes like ? Yeah , that's it . How do you ? How do you describe it ? There's just not a lot of flavor to it . You know well , I thought this is like less flavor than like a big box beer . Light beer , I would agree and there's . That's . That's hard to say , isn't it ?

Yeah , it's not offensive , but , like we've said before , you and I are are kind of stickler like flavor , and there's really not much there . I'm going to go a 2.1 just because and like I said , I think it could be a lawnmower beer . If it was ice cold on a hot day you could chug it , but why , you know ? Take it to the bathroom .

Yeah , there's a lot of other beers that you could take that role , that have flavor , you know . So , yeah , I'm just I'm . Again , it's not offensive . Anybody that hasn't had a craft beer before could drink it , but I'm just not really a big fan , so I didn't look at it .

But I mean , is there anything on the artwork that we can even give it a tenth of a point on ? Well , I mean it's got , you know , kind of a nice sunset and trees and there's like the heron on it . Artwork-wise it's not bad , but does that make up ? Does that give you stretch it out far enough ?

Yeah well , yeah , I'm with you , buddy , I'm going to have to go with 2.0 . I mean , it's not bad , it's just not there . We're kind of picking up where we left off last week .

I'm sure there's a market for it and it could be maybe the younger folks you know ? I don't know , but not us . This would be one . You could compare it if you didn't if somebody went there , going hey what do you have that's like this mass-produced beer ? they could drink that right . That would be the only saving grace , I think , for me and you .

There's no way we'd ever go there and request this no , since we were talking about that . So let me and you . There's no way we'd ever go there and request this no , since we were talking about that . So let me give you your first question . Okay , what is the primary fermentable sugar source used in beer making ? That's the malt or the grains ?

It's the sugar out of the grain . Which grain Got to be a little more specific Barley ? Oh , did I get it ? You got it right . Oh , now you're mad , aren't you ?

That's I want to give you a second because I was bouncing back and forth in my head . It goes to germany . Or is it czech ? because they've had czech style pilsners you know , and german I think when we looked on the czech ones we talked about , we looked at all their brewing when they first started brewing .

It's been six , fourteen fifteen , sixteen hundreds yep , craziness , yes , craziness . So you are almost above zero . Awesome for once . I quit . I should have . I should have quit after the first one . There you go . Awesome , well , I guess let's uh . Now this next one . I didn't even realize they had a pilot series . I had never heard of it .

No , I didn't either Like . I said before all of these . I've only heard of two of them . So this is their pilot series , Roger Roger , and this is their American Pale Ale 5.35% . So I got a little bit Okay . This exceptional brew features a highly expressive yeast strain renowned for its classic American pale ale aromatic qualities .

Without the vegetable the what the vegetal notes sometimes associated with dry hopping . Crafted with cashmere belma and barbie rogue hops , Roger Roger Pale Ale burst with notes of fresh floral berries , strawberries , blueberries and ripe citrus .

Okay , I will bet you a dollar that we'll get the citrusy taste , but we won't get any berry-type flavor , because that's typically what we ran into . There's a lot , that's a lot , of berry , A lot to go on . I don't even know what a floral berry is . Yeah , it smells like a pale ale . At least there's an aroma , oh jeez , there's an aroma .

I maybe get a hint of a blueberry , but it's , I'll guarantee it's just the citrusy , the citrus from the hop . That's kind of just . What about the floral berry ?

this one ?

I just can't taste them . But that hop just overpowers , and I don't know . It says here , you know the highly expressive yeast strain . I'm not sure what that is . So this is out of Milwaukee . I'm sorry I didn't listen to that first part . Oh , is this the ? So this is out of their to their milwaukee tap tap room . Yeah , so same company , just yep , yep .

But boy , boy , the first one just had no flavor . This one is not a flavor that I like . Um right , oh boy . I think we may grade this one a little more widespread between you and I . I'm gonna have to go 1.9 . I just I'm not a fan . I'm burping up hops . Um , all I taste is hops . I don't .

I don't get the citrus , blueberry , strawberry or floral berry . I'm sorry , oh , I'm sorry all right well for myself . I mean , and I I know this is kind of a stretch , but when you were talking , I was sitting there kind of trying to figure out the , the aftertaste .

Like I said before , I almost had a little bit of a blueberry flavor , but the other one's not at all , um , and I do think it's more just the citrus from the hops . Uh , I don't mind this too bad . Uh , would it be one ? I would intentionally go out ?

Probably not , but I'm gonna go like a 2.3 because I do think it's fairly decent , not over the topthe-top hoppy . Like you know , like your India Pale Ales are definitely a stronger hop , but this one is for an American Pale Ale . It's a pretty decent example , I think , but again , like I said , I probably wouldn't rush out to buy it myself .

And a new person just getting into craft beer , they may not particularly care for it Just because you know hops are . You have to get used to hops . Yes , you know , and I think a new person would be like oof , that's too hoppy . Yeah , I mean because we've had an entire podcast where we've had great pale ales .

I mean that I haven't had any of this hoppy flavor that I really liked . Did I happen to tell you I have another idea for an IPA podcast . Oh , not Variations of Roger Roger , is that what came to mind ? Nope , but I got an idea coming up , so you're going to love it . Boy , this , but this is . It's like hurting my jaw , so you want some more ?

Oh , wow , like I said , I've never even heard of these , and it's okay , you know . Again , like I said , I think their expertise is definitely the barrel aging and they've proved that over and over . So these other ones are going to be interesting and hopefully they'll get better .

But you know , yes , let's get back into our good questions so that we can have the listeners participate with us . All , right , so what is the process called where yeast converts sugars into alcohol and carbon dioxide ? Well , it's fermentation . Is that the word you're looking for ? Yes , okay , yes , I'm going to give you plus .001 .

Because that was too easy , dang it All right . Number two or number four which type of beer is traditionally served with a slice of orange ? Oh , because it's Blue Moon .

It took me a little bit of digging , okay , but I found out . It meant horseshoes and hand grenades . So that's all you got to be close with . That's right you just got to be close . Yep , inspired by the music of Wisconsin band Horseshoes and Hand Grenades , I had no idea .

This Citra and Mosaic Hopped American pale ale is best enjoyed with friends , old and new , while playing or dancing to your favorite tunes . Okay , let's make some memories today . I've never heard of that band . No , I have not either , so hopefully they're extremely good . Yes , so we do have a nice head , a nice foamy head .

This one is 45 IBUs , but it's definitely got a stronger piney hoppy flavor . Oh yeah , you love it , boy , hoppy , hoppy flavor . Oh yeah , mmm , you love it , boy , and you know you love it . Oh , I mean the aromas . So you've been out of IPA practice for a while . We've got to get you back in there because you were starting to like some of them .

I mean the ones we've had . I mean because I mean we did one , a totally blind one , that we've never even had at the breweries before Were really good .

But it's a lot stronger hop flavor than the second one , than that Roger Roger did , and I guess between the two I'd rather drink the Roger Roger than this one . And I mean for me , even if it says 45 IBUs , I think this is more than 45 for bitterness for me . For me , even if it says 45 IBUs , I think this is more than 45 for bitterness for me .

I mean , again , I'm not an expert on how they do the IBUs , but boy , this really is a lot more bitter and hoppier , much more hoppier for me . I'm going to have to keep going down . I'm going 1.8 . Okay , I totally get it .

for an india pale ale yeah , not so much an american pale ale , but this kind of caught . You caught me off guard anyway . I mean , I would almost think this has more of an india pale ale style than an American pale ale . Yeah , I agree with you . I don't know , I mean I could be way off base , but no , I agree with you 100% .

I think it's closer to that . Yeah , it's just . This has to be one of the on that flavor , the stronger hot drying effect of an American pale ale that we've ever had . Yeah , these are yeah , these are yeah and this I mean . What's hard is again , you read the little write up here and you're like oh , that's not so bad , that's not so bad .

Then wham , then you're like oh , Wait a minute , was that the same beer ? And I mean we've had some decent American pale ales . Oh yeah , yep , that were not . I've preferred some of those because they're that lighter flavor , you know . Not as hoppy , not this one boy , this one has hops .

Oh yeah , that it does for sure , oh boy , all right , you got another question . Yeah , are you ready ? Yeah , my eyes are watering .

All right , question number five Okay , what is the term for a beer made by blending a young beer with an older aged beer , often sour , a younger beer and an older beer , and this is worth a million points , because you're looking at me going , he has no idea . A million points , so this is going to be worth one million points ?

I've actually never even heard of this before . I don't know if we've had one of these Blending a younger beer , because I was going to say when you first said about blending beers , I was going to say a Cuvée , but that's the ones we've always had . They've all been barrel-aged and they've mixed them together . Yes , I don't know on this one , dude , I'm sorry .

So I I wish somebody on the list would tell us more about it . So I'm going to spell it . Okay , if you want to write it down , because I don't know how to say it actually . Okay , g-u-e-u-z-e . Yeah , I got nothing for you . Is it goo-eezy ? I don't know . We'll have to try and figure that out . I wish somebody would send us one to try .

I mean it sounds interesting . I mean I would taste it . Oh yeah , yeah , but I don't know . I don't think we've had that style of beer .

I read it and I was like , well , that's interesting , maybe somebody out there knows about it . Yeah , that is interesting . We'll have to keep an eye out see if we ever run across one of those there you go to try . But yeah , I've never even heard of that . All right , here we go . Okay , which grain is commonly used in the production of gluten-free beer ?

This is an easy one Rice , no , no . What grain Gluten-free ?

That's where I know sorghum has been used for like honey kind of stuff , but I didn't realize it was a grain .

By the way , Again made in Milwaukee . Yep , that brewery down there , yep , this lager's brewed to be refreshing lately . Hoppy , knock on wood , we'll be the judge of that . And extra crispy .

And sometimes I feel like I'm just getting violated when I say stuff like that Brewed , sorry . Yeah , brewed with corn , thank God , yeah , and a light hop hug of Zuper Cesar hops . This is a good time you don't want to miss out on . Now , you know , when you were talking about that side , pull faucet on untapped , they just added that .

It's like you know , you can have , can bottle . They just added that to it and I've never had I'm pretty sure I've never had a beer out of one of those . So isn't usually they tap the beer on the ends , yeah yeah , so I don't a beer out of one of those , so isn't usually they tap the beer on the ends .

It's definitely light in color . It looks like corn . Yeah , they've all been very light so far . I don't see it , not a whole lot of For aroma , not much there . I'm going to grab the rice can . Yeah , you can't , yeah , I don't know , I don't really taste this one again . It gets back to very , very minimal flavor .

You can tell it's a lager , it has kind of that flavor , but it's very , very light . Yeah , you know what I'm afraid of is , I think these first four are on the lighter end .

The rice can , yeah , and that one does have a little little . The rice is a little different smell , but they're still very minimal . I mean , could you drink this a moment alone , like on a bet , or no ? I think between , or maybe sitting in a garage , maybe . I think between , or maybe sitting in a garage , maybe I think between the rice and the corn .

I would prefer the corn more than the rice . Yeah , I think so too .

I mean they're not . There's not a lot of flavor , not a lot of . I mean you're making , I don't know there's a lot of flavor , not a lot of . I mean you're making I don't know there's a lot of time and effort put into making this .

I think I could sit in the garage on a hot day and have one . I don't know if I could finish it . If I was mowing , I might accidentally spill it or something Right . But this , I don't know if I could finish it .

It pains me to say that because most of the beers we've had from them we're like yeah .

But where somebody goes there and they go , hey , what do you have ?

That's like this , oh , we got this rice one , or we got this corn one , and then the people are like , oh , okay , and they probably love it , right , yeah , you know , but for those of us that are definitely into craft beer and , uh , again , flavor and such it's , they're just kind of lacking and and such .

So I , I again , they're not horrible , but I really wouldn't , personally , I would not go looking for them . But again , a new person could drink that all day long . Yes , so , speaking of that , okay , which beer is traditionally associated with Germany and it's not a Pilsner ? What style ? Yes , marzon , oktoberfest . No , that's not what they're looking for .

Well , you're not wrong , but I think maybe a little bit higher standard category , what marzon would fall in ? What category of marzon ? would fall in there yeah , so you got the category above it and then underneath , oh , like a dunkel no , persons aren't them . I don't know doppelbach , I don't know . I , oh , lager , yes , yeah , I take a million points off .

I totally missed that one , because when I think german beers , I think think Oktoberfest or Marzahn . That's what I was trying to say it's a little higher level .

They're typically like a fruity , if I remember right , almost like kind of in the farmhouse style . I think I could be way off . What is their definition ? It says a beer fermented with wild yeasts . Oh , okay , almost beasts , because we've had lambic beers before and they usually have a stronger fruity flavor . Huh , okay , well , we've got three beers left .

How many questions you got left ? Three , I have three questions left . Oh well , there you go , nice .

We had another one that was like a neapolitan stout from a different company , I can't remember and it wasn't very good . I don't think , was it , I think it reminded me of the ice cream , but like when it's all melted , like in a blender .

Yeah , it's by far the darkest one we've had so far . Yes , I'm pretty sure it won't stay that way , but I'm thinking there we go , all right . So yeah ice cream conversations and did you describe what's on the can ? So the can it's like . On the one side there's like a chocolate ice cream cone .

Of course he's got arms and legs and such and he's like in shock , he's going oh , he's got eyes and a mouth . And then you've got some another .

No , I don't Definitely get the strawberry , but it's almost like a non-sweet strawberry , like a bitter yes , for some reason , I don't know , like a sour strawberry type . Hmm , boy , hmm I was expecting a lot more On the aroma . I do smell the chocolate and I smell the strawberry , but the taste-wise is definitely strawberry .

Yeah , not the same as the write-up , and we said 6.3% , 6.3% , yep , wow , that's interesting . I'm trying to think yeah , I just I don't get the vanilla at all . I think that strawberry really overpowered it . But even like the chocolate , I don't get a lot of chocolate .

I mean maybe a faint hint of it , but I get more on the aroma than I get on the flavor . That's kind of weird , yeah . And you know again the first thing you think about ice cream sweetness , yeah , yeah , not the bitterness .

Yeah , and that strawberry , you're right , is like the not real sweet strawberries , it's like a sour , bitter , not quite ripe strawberry , kind of a green strawberry . Yeah , yeah , the tart green one . Huh , interesting . Wow , so you were first . Oh , boy , I'll go with 2.4 . I just think that the strawberry overpowered it .

I don't get vanilla at all and , like you said , if it was a sweet strawberry I'd probably like it better . But I do think they need to maybe tone that down just a little bit . Yeah , you know , because again , I get the chocolate . On the aroma , but not on the flavor . Yeah , I'm going to have to go . I'm going to say a 2.2 . I'm going to say it .

So far it has the best flavor , but it's not a great flavor . It's an okay flavor , but I had , of all the beers we were doing , other than the last one , I thought this one had the best potential for being had a good taste , but boy .

I don't know I hate to say it , jim , but I honestly think if this one , the warmer it gets , I think it might get worse . Yeah , you know what I mean , and I don't mean that in a bad way , but I think that strawberry just would continue to overpower everything . You know ? I don't know .

Yeah , they could have cut back on the strawberry a little bit , maybe add a little bit more chocolate or a little more vanilla .

All right , we're running out of questions for you , buddy . Okay , all right . So this has got to be an easy one for you . Okay , I appreciate that , which is a . Okay , give me a method used to add hop aroma and flavor without significantly increasing bitterness . Is that dry hopping ? Yes , it is Nice . I paid attention To what my brother Told me that time .

There , you got that one right .

Most of the time , our beers are planned out months or even years ahead of time , but there are rare instances where we simply look at some spare ingredients we have lying around and wonder what can we make with them . This is one of those times .

This beer is meant to pay homage to , those days where we stand in front of an open fridge scratching our heads , wondering how we're going to make a dessert for the last-minute dinner guest we're having come over tonight . Oh , 7% EBV Smell the aroma on that one .

No , I yeah , because that's a funky looking apple apple . If that's an apple , I was going to say I don't know what it is , and the fruit being a cobbler , I would think , okay , apple cobbler , cherry cobbler , peach cobbler , here we go . Oh , looked inside the can , okay , peach cobbler-inspired sour ale with peaches , lactose , vanilla , graham crackers and cinnamon .

Well , let's take another taste then , because I missed a lot of that . Yeah , I don't know , I'm missing a few of those ingredients . I guess on the aftertaste I might get peach , don't get graham cracker , cinnamon , and then Don't really get cinnamon . Vanilla , no , huh , well , wow , okay then . Is it the worst sour we've ever had ?

No , is it the best sour we've ever had ? No , you know , wow , boy , again , this hurts . I'm so glad that they're into barrel aging , oh yeah , well , I'm going to have to go . I'm not a fan of this . I'm going to go to go . I'm not a fan of this . I'm going to go with 1.7 . Okay , I don't know if I there's something .

I know it's not overpowering sour , but like my mouth is just dried out from it and I don't know what's causing that , because I don't think peaches do that . But something , there's something , and I'm not sure what it is . It's like I don't think . Think like I'd even make this for you dessert if you're a last minute dinner guest . This is dude .

I'm going to . I can't . Here's my options . I can go 2.5 . I don't think so . So I'm gonna go 1.9 again , like I said , if it's , it says it's peach , but I really don't get much of a peach flavor . I don't get the cinnamon , I don't get graham cracker , I don't get you need those flavors .

I get the sour , yes , type part and it's not overly sour , but that's the only flavor I get . Is like just a generic sweet sour Right Kind of thing . And the artwork on the can is cool but I just don't Well look at . That was probably his face when he took his first drink too . He went wait a minute . Whoa , yeah , I Dang it .

Okay , wow , this is not easy . Well , I guess . Would I recommend this one to a new person ? Probably not . No , I think it's just there's not . In this day and age , most of the sours out there are more sweeter than sour , but they also have very good flavor . Yes , sweeter than sour , but they also have very good flavor . Yes , typically are a lot of flavor .

Where this one , I just I don't get a lot of flavor , unfortunately , so the sourness overpowered everything . Yeah , yeah and it's not that it was super sour , but it was just that the flavors are so minimal , right muted and yeah , there you go , muted thank you . Um , yeah , I , I couldn't recommend this one either . Oh boy , we have not had luck here .

The last , our last two weeks have been a little sketch . I think the last one will make up for it . But well , why don't you hit me with your last question ? Can you once your eyes open ? After you , you chug that taster glass down ? All right , these should be easy questions for you . Multiple questions .

Two oh , okay , in brewing , what does the term mash refer to ? Well , mash is when they have your water and your grains and you're actually heating it up to extract the sugars out of it . I think I can get this , because theirs was the mixture of water and crushed grains . Yeah , so I think you got it .

Okay , we'll give you a point , a point one , point , zero , zero , zero , zero one nice , so that's positive , all right , I'm getting closer to zero . All right , your last question of the night . Okay , which beer style is known for its cloudy appearance and banana like flavor ? A hefeweizen , oh , grasshopper .

It's not even related , right ? Do you want to tell me what you thought of this group first , and then we'll drink that one . Yeah , that's a good idea . Okay , boy , it was surprising Because , again , I had only heard of the one we have left , yep , and I had heard of the HHG , but I don't think I'd ever had it .

Okay , so the rest of them I had never even heard of . And it's kind of interesting to because , like I said , again , we know them from their barrel aging program and this is as far away from that as you can get . Yes , is there one I would recommend , boy ? I guess honestly the only one . Well , I take that back . I could .

If you're into like mass-produced beers you know the Roger Roger or the Corn Lager I could see where I could recommend that to a person because it's going to be closer to what they're used to . Okay , personally , I don't know .

I just I know I think the highest score I gave was to the Ice Cream Stout , but it was kind of because I didn't want to duplicate anything . Doesn't mean it was that good , right , right ?

So I guess honestly , jim , I hate to say it , but the corn lager was probably the best one flavor-wise to me so far , and not that the other ones were terrible , but they just were kind of not what I was expecting .

Yeah , I mean , I was going to say the same exact thing the least of the evil would be the corn lager the lesser of seven evils , or six evils . Six evils , and I mean I guess we've come to expect a level of the bourbon barrel .

And then what do you have ? That's last one there . The last one we have is their Cassian Sunset . All right , and this one is just slightly above on ABV at a low 11.7 . Okay , now it's in our wheelhouse . And 27 IBUs , nice . Okay . And we have a bourbon barrel-aged Imperial Stout with the local MEJ's coffee , whole vanilla beans and cinnamon-n-n-n-n-n .

Cin-nin-num , cin-nin-num . The flavor profile of this wonderful beer boasts a lush mouthfeel with just the right amount of creamy spice character to meld with the rich malt and barrel aged profile . Okay , and this is part of their barrel reserve or brewer's reserve right selections . So all right , so let's hope .

I think that's the coffee and the vanilla , I think Kind of mixed together , because I get the same kind of thing , but it's like they didn't say anything about coconut . Right , it's got to be that MBJ's coffee . Yeah , well , that .

And , like I said , with the vanilla , I think that vanilla gives , because , right now , the aftertaste , I'm getting more vanilla , yes , and a good vanilla and a good vanilla , yeah , yeah , that tastes good . I think we've been waiting for something like this for a while , for at least six beers worth . Yes , wow . And , like I said , love Central Waters .

I mean , they're one of the premier when it comes to barrel aging and I get why they're doing these other things too , right , I totally understand it , because not everybody is quite as barrel aged nuts as we are . But , boy , it's a stark difference between yes .

No , and like I said , I mean the cool thing I really liked about this show today was just , most of these I'd never even heard of , never had them , probably won't have them again , you know . But I'm glad that you picked these up , because when's the next time that we would actually try these ?

Well , now , after drinking drinking them , I can say we probably .

You can taste it , but it's not like whoa , like some of them I've had . It's good , I think , for an all-around barrel-aged beer it's pretty solid . I think somebody that's never had a barrel aged beer before they could try this one . Right , and we don't know what type of bourbon .

It's just so amazing how different this last one is compared to the other ones . Yeah , for sure I mean it ? is really hard to even come up with words to describe the differences . Yep , exactly the barrel-aged compare . Yeah , I agree with you , Sunset , cassian , sunset by far the winner of this group . Totally different .

These are all different styles , but totally different than the rest of them . And again , like I said , they know what they're doing when it comes to barrel aging . Keep it up , keep coming out with that stuff . We'll keep coming back . The other ones , they have a purpose . We're not quite sure what all of that is , but there you go .

I guess the hard part for us is we wanted to try everything . So we had an idea too . Somebody asked us hey , was there different beers out there ? Well , there are different beers . But I think we found out you're rolling the dice , you don't really know what you .

I think we had some high expectations based on the barrel aging process and what the beers are going to taste like , but unfortunately , I mean , could they be better ? Maybe I don't know . It just probably wasn't in our wheelhouse for these other than the last one . The last one hit the mark , is dead center on this one .

Well , you know , I was just thinking if somebody had told , comes up to us and says , hey , I'm going to central waters , you know , I'm not big into barrel aging , what would you recommend ? And and now , like you said , when you picked them up , you couldn't drink these there and they weren't on tap .

So it's kind of like because I was going to say , well , you know what , what kind of beer do you normally like ? And if they're kind of a mass producer , I'd say , say you know the rice or the corn , but you can't drink them there . So it's like I don't know , you know , that's the part that's a little weird to me .

But again , love Central Waters and , like I said , I think I'll just kind of keep on that darker side the far end , yeah , the far end , yeah because you can look at . I mean , this is definitely the can that stands out too . The can that stands out too , it's an all black can , and all the other ones are silver cans .

It's kind of when you get into those it seems to me like they try and it's a little more classy Right Cause you know you don't have like these cartoony kind of characters on their barrel age stuff . They're more serious about those , yes ,

and I think that shows in not only the beer but in the packaging and everything else . The whole , and not only the beer but in the packaging and everything else . Yes , the whole package . Yep , everything , exactly Well , awesome , hey , we survived . Another one , yes , we did . It was touch and go there for a little bit . Our wing almost touched .

We had to go for a fly around . Exactly so awesome . This is cool . I'm glad we tried these different beers from Central Waters because , again , I'll guarantee we probably won't have most of them again , but yeah , it was awesome . So , jim , thank you for picking these up and including me in on this .

Like I said , a couple of them I was a little , I wasn't maybe going to thank you for it , but yeah , it was cool . I'm glad we tried them , you know , just to see how they do with that stuff . Again , they're an , a plus , a to a plus level on their barrel aging stuff and I'm sure that they have a big following for this other stuff .

But I'm going to stick to the barrel age stuff . Yes , me too . I echo everything you said . I think we'll have to finish this last barrel age one . Yeah , the rest we might not finish right , but we're gonna . We're gonna at least stick it through for one . Yes , we will . We will do that .

So hey , ladies , and gentlemen , you know , make sure you always , you know , go and visit your local craft breweries . Most of them are going to have a lot of different styles and flavors and everything else to try . You know , give it a whirl . Oh , can we throw a shout out to one of those podcast guys that gave us a shout a few weeks ago ?

Yeah , I can't remember their name . Oh , yeah , yeah , us a shout , sure , a few weeks ago ? Yeah , well , I can't remember their name . Oh , yeah , yeah , uh , it's actually their podcast is . Uh , what a , what an interview . Yeah , they they gave us a shout out , they gave us a shout out and they did their first , their first craft beer tasting on their show .

We encourage them to keep doing it . Yep , you know . Uh , our guys , our scoring system is zero to 5 , not 1 to 4 . There you go , but hey , I give you guys credit because I do believe they're more kind of in that mass-produced beer category Because they're younger , probably don't have the disposable income right now , but keep it up and give them a listen .

They're interesting . Their show are usually interviewing people from their town that do different stuff , so they're pretty interesting to listen to . I give them that . Yep , and yeah , thanks for the shout-out , guys . And right back , at you .

Until next week , I hope all your campfires are warm and all your beer is cold .