It's the tip of the sword as we sly from left to right, and we take a strip of pastor on pasta attacks with our favorites, don't we, Emma, Yes, thank you, Phoebe. It's an exciting time. This is the best piece of news that I think we've probably all seen all year. It is pasta versus pasta in a war over a former male stripper doing shirtless acrobatics at a very manly event for manly men organized by a church.
No. I did not make any of that up. This is a story from the stream by Michael Brown on April sixteenth, twenty twenty four. And I think, first of all, Helen and I especially were getting very animated earlier about how amazing this men's conference for manly men is. We have had monster trucks apparently, And this story is about a professional sword swallowing acrobat performing at this men's event, and I lament the lack of excitement in women's
events. Yeah, Helen, what the hell's going on? Well? Okay, So those of our audience that are familiar with Marc ro Skoll, we have talked about this special special man, this very man name man name made
man on the show before, and he was. He had a moment where there was a former male stripbird that is now a devout Christian went to this male conference of Christian evangelicals and he I don't know if he means to have a moment with himself about maybe him some feelings he was having that he was upset because this shirtless performer basically called his show a stripper performance by being near a pole, just near it, and he was he was just near it.
Surely, when are you sure you like when Ukrainian or German or check slow back so gives me a metal pole let me or it might have been a pole, I don't know either way. And you swallow the sword, had no shirt off and marked your skull basically equated to a sexual performance. Now, I don't know about you. That sounds like a good time, but apparently Mark has some feelings about it and is, like I said, I'm like, maybe he needs to come to a rule pole. He needs
to have a come to Rule Paul moment. That's basically but I think, yes, they need to come to rule Pall moment, which kind of gets into a little bit of the homophobia and these manly man man man man I. You know, I have big dig energy that happens at these events, and so I would like to hear from Infidel on how he felt. Are you saying that you think that Infidel might have big dick energy? Yes, was a resident alpha malea. You have a fucking shirt man, that makes
it official. You know that T shirt? He says that you're horning. Well, you know, well when I first heard strippers in church, I was like, okay, well Lisa finally giving something back. But you know, I was like, you know, I how to settle for a gift card. But you know, you take what you can get from a church. But you know, seriously, Helen, you mentioned Drisco in his own
discomfort. He mentionedist the spirit of Jezebel up here and you know he's building this and took his shirt off and half expected to go and man, did you see that tight ass? But you know, did you see that package on the front? I mean, yes, good package. You know Blair your bullrush. You're you're right, I would I would peg Driscoll for a bottom. But having said that, you know, it's really one of those
situations where and it is it's homophobia all the way. It's but it's so weird that a bunch of men get together in this godly man kind of way. What whatever that nonsense means, because really, when it gets down to it, it's it's it's the first cousin of purity culture and some type of absolutely unrealistic way to live your life. But you know, having said that, I do think that it does go right back to what Driscoll did, you know, with him complaining and then of course getting shut down. It
reminded me of what Helen mentioned, you know, with Rue Paul. You know, whatever you do, don't fuck it up. Well, that's pretty much Rod Driscoll did. Driscollol pretty much broke the rules right there off the
top. And I just find it so odd that we're having Christians once again having a cat fight out in public between each other about who's more manly than the other man, and who did or didn't notice that the other guy's package was showing or not, and all these other completely nonsensical things, while they're ignoring the fact they're really they're fighting among themselves because they don't know how to
be a real human, much less a man, whatever that means. So as it would be usually said by a person I'm very close to my wife. It all sounds like, you know, big dicks swinging their big dicks and not knowing that they've got a big dick that they're swinging around here. It all feels like a lot of insecure, inmature cold swallop here. I mean, this is just one of those things which just like, do you not do life in any way, shape or form? Do you struggle to,
you know, find enjoyment in life? I mean, what next, you ban gymnastics because it might be a little bit homo erotic for you. I mean, for goodness sakes, this is just one of those things where I just go, oh, progress comes in small measures, and in some cases progress comes on the tip of the sword, but I mean just the tip. How you package this up? I can see that there's going to be a lot of you know, back and forth here, and it's going
to get very confusing. But I mean I just wanted to, you know, just delve a little bit more. They tied themselves in not side with this. I mean at the actual conference, nobody gave two ships what was going on. Some bloke said something later and then they went, oh, oh, it's the Homer Simpson effect. If anyone has seen that episode of The Simpsons where he is the only person to complain about the movie and then they rewrite the whole movie for him, it's the Homer Simpson effect. It
is. I think the funniest thing for me about this whole thing is the author of the article, Michael Brown, who is a host. He's the article is so I recommend reading it for a laugh. It's so funny because, yeah, he is the like a big driving force he claims to have. He went in to do his radio show and he claims the internet was blowing up because of this. He weren't the Internet that was blowing up,
though something was blowing up. It was the front of trousers. No, but like you know, and he the number of times he refers to the performer as a former male stripper, always male stripper, and over and over again, and he describes the performance as carnal and then again. Yeah. We hear later in the article that you know, people who were there said that nobody thought it was sexual at all until Mark Driscoll got up and started
complaining about it been to a magic show. Have none of these people been to the circus or the carnival complimentary ticket for magic mic. That would be so wonderful. Yes, if we've we will cover it on this SHP. You can facilitate that. That would be absolutely perfect. But yeah, it's it's just so like it's like, I mean, there's the there's the the actual rational sort of reaction to this is you know that the performer is a
born again Christian. The basis of you know, Christianity is forgiveness and rebirth. So having somebody who used to do something sinful and again Michael something carnal and sinful. He literally describes this event and this performance as a sin against God. He's sting acrobatics that is shirt on swimming pool. It might might,
you know, offend your senses. Go to a swimming pool. Don't tell them about nude beaches, but university campuses, oh my goodness, miss but realistic, like it is supposed to be the point of your christian something that's like celebrated. Is like, look at these people who used to do something sinful and now they've turned to God and we're giving them a moment to shine on the stage. And most people seem to take it that way.
And then a couple of insecure guys, Mark Driscoll and then Michael I've got his name again, Michael Complaint. The complainant Michael Brown and Mark Dreschool both had some sort of and I'm not going to guess at anybody's sexuality or repression, but for some reason, they had some sort of instinctive reaction to this shirtless man that was way beyond anybody else's and that has created I think one of the funniest bits of writing I probably wond I will say, is I
direct to think what they would have done if he was a fire breather. So, as the token mail on this panel in Fidel, do you think that these two men are a representation of what it is to be, you know, a secure, manly man that you know, knows what it's like to you gonna, you know, be secure in who they are? Do
you do you agree with that? I have to harken back to something I brought up on a recent episode, Helen, I want to say you may have been on that episode where Jesse Lee Peterson and three other guys were talking about how the female orgasm whether it was actually a real thing, and Peterson made the comment that it's not natural. If if women have an orgasm,
that's that's uh, that's that's them trying to be a man. And they went through this whole absolutely insane thing, and that's pretty much what I got the feeling of. They would fit right in with this, because all I could hear when I heard this is is okay, so you can't please anybody that That's literally all I heard when I heard these people saying this, And that's what I kind of think drissful and and I think that's what this is
really catered for. It's not catered for manly men. They might want to perceive themselves that way, but the truth is what I see is just screaming insecurity. You know, I expect to roll out in the parking lot and see, you know, f nine fifties in the parking lot, forget it, eight three fifties. You know, I expect to see every symbolism of inadequacy out there in the park. Yes, maybe have a tattooed in your
forehead, because I see them as being exactly the opposite. Because if you're comfortable with who you are, manly man, whatever term you want to self apply to yourself, then you don't need to constantly go around advertising eight I'm a manly man. Come on, you've already proven that that's what you're not once you started down that road. I mean, I'm comfortable in myself.
Infidel sounds comfortable in theself. I think Helen is comfortable in themselves. But the only person I don't think is comfortable is the only person living in Britain. And would you say that they grew comfortable? Are you so? Having read this, do you think that there is a sense of comfort in the Christian Church or do you think it is you know, coldwarp and backa doos
throughout. I think the fact that because we know, we've talked about the homophobia inherent in this right, we all know, and anyone who looks at this article or here's Mark Drescool's complaints or any of these supposed people who were like blowing the internet up with their complaints about it, we all know that it's because the unstated, unspoken thing is that there was a man with a shirt off in front of a big load of men who, if they had
any feelings about it, would repress them. And it's like nobody is who's talking about it and is angry about it is willing to say what the actual problem is, which is that it might awaken some gay feelings in a man in the room. But it's like they can't say it, and the fact that they can't even like explain out it's just it's carnal. It's gross if you're not. If nobody in the room is gay, then it's not really
carnal for a man to perform in front of others. It's the fact that they can't even say it shows just deep, deep insecurity, like infidels say. It's there's no comfort in here. It does make me feel better about being comfortable in myself because I don't have to I don't know my life. It may have taken a while to get me to be comfortable in here. But as my mother would say, if you talk about something so swearing is
her favorite one. If you talk about it, discuss what those words are, they lose their power, they lose their you know, grip on people. And I think that that's what we're seeing here. We're seeing a great, big grip on people for the things that are happening that really shouldn't be happening. And I think that it's just one of those moments where you all go, hang on a second, what's actually going on here? And if
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