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have been constructed. And the second is the Imago Mundi, which is regarded as the oldest known map of the world as it was understood by the Babylonians three thousand years ago, which seems to give clues to the final resting place of the fabled watercraft. Of course, this is from the Gilgamesh version. These articles are from The US Sun by Juliana Cruz Lima on October nineteenth, twenty twenty four, and The Jerusalem Post by Jerusalem Post staff on October thirty, twenty twenty four.

evidence for Biblical history. So Andrew Jones is the co lead researcher on this project, and with him, his other co lead researcher is a doctor Yusel who is a Turkey Turkish local. He is an actual scientist, and his role primarily consists of operating the scientific equipment, obtaining permits, analyzing the data, and then telling Andrew Jones what the data means, for Andrew Jones to then go on and extrapolate wildly from there with claims that basically nobody else supports.

So I did look into Andrew Jones. He does seem to have no public record of any academic, educational, or professional background in any field whatsoever. So that was sort of the details I was able to gather so far about, like the actual Darubinar, the site where he's claiming there are these remains of what he claims to be Noah's Ark.

We know that people lived in that area back then and well before it. We know that the climate changed, and it quite possibly could have been the case that marine animals were able to get closer to the top of that formation earlier in the Earth's history. You know, for example, the Sahara Desert about nine thousand years ago. It was a plane, it was you know, at agricultural center, there were streams and rivers, it was not a sandy

kind of frontier. So there's really no evidence supporting this these people's claims, and plenty of evidence suggesting all of all types of other scenario scenarios in which these things could have happened. Plus, I think it's really important to know that when we're talking about evidence, multiple sources say that this is a natural rock formation, like this is not this where's the wood that it was built out of?

Like there's no tests come back conclusively or even even close to being conclusively that this was somehow a man made structure.

so Zeosuja being like the oldest version. So the the imago Mundi is the second article is what that's focusing on, which is just a sort of clay tablet that has a map on it and some inscriptions in and it seems to give clues about the resting place of the boat that was built in the in the Zeosudra version of the flood narrative. And this is really just kind of evidence, like this story has been floating around, if you can, you know, forgive the pun floating around since

the Sumerians Zeosuja. This is way before Gilgambush, as you pointed out, and so it's I'm one hundred percent prepared to believe that this myth has been evolving and you know, carrying on from way early times. And yeah, three thousand years ago, they probably had a version. They probably had some version that there's a few different versions even that claim to know where the boat landed and where it used to be, and it wasn't there at that point either. Probably,

So it's this it doesn't seem it's being presented. I guess it's sort of like evidence of the truth of the narrative, when it's really just evidence of the existence of the narrative.

I will not believe. Blessed are you Thomas that have seen me, But blessed are those who have not seen me and yet still believe that was my Shatner impersonation of doing the Bible. How did you guys? Did that work?

professionals have looked into. Multiple studies have been done about this area when it comes to geologic activity and you know, kind of evolution, if you will, Plenty of evidence points to the fact that these are natural formations and that there are areas in that part of the world that we can point to that create mountain chains based on volcanic activity, and we are just looking at that ironically it made the shape of some kind of boat, okay, And then that that leads people to jump up and

say aha. Because when we when we deal with people who have a or have a conviction about something that doesn't have much evidence to it, or any evidence at all, they'll look for ways to confirm their own biases. They approach potential evidence with a confirmation bias, right, and they make sense of things out of things that are really

nonsensical or don't really require a lot of thought. But if we go to the professionals, popular mechanics dot Com, a couple of other geologic sites I checked into, I posted some of these. You know, there are people out there actively trying to get to the bottom of it, not because they want to prove people wrong, because the truth is important and you can't just have this myth, this folklore that tells you something and not investigate it. That's not how anything works, and so I don't think

it should work, but it shouldn't work with religion. And so we have an obligation to point to the things that counter these arguments, especially when these arguments are incredibly weak.

we actually look at patterns. Right, So, like say, for instance, all of us happen told the story about Noah's Ark, especially like if you grew up Christian or if you grew up in some type of Abrahamic religion influence. Right, So if we happen to not only hear the story but believe the story, when we go out to seek more evidence to corroborate the story, we're going to look at all types of different patterns, all types of different

you know formations. As you mentioned, Jimmy and I come to this party, your conclusion that that's the boat, that's the boat right there. You know, even though, like, if you really look at it at a scientific level concerning a worldwide flood, there is possibly no way that the entire world could have flooded with water and then received it, receded, and then you know, all of a sudden like ended

up on the top of Mount Sinai. We don't have enough atmospheric water between you know, the you know, gas to state and even our oceans to even do that. And and then a lot of times when people talk about, well, there's been stories around the world about you know, worldwide floods, I said, there have been stories about World five floods. Yes, but please keep this in context that you're talking about people who were only aware of the geographical location that

they were in at that particular time. They are not people who were going all over to the Western Hemisphere, to the Antarctic, to the Arctic Circle and back again in order for them to observe these things, let alone being able to have access to technology to be able to actually visually see these things, as far as like using satellite or of things of that nature, so that they can actually see if there are areas that happens to be flooding, or if you have like oceans that

happen to be absorbing more water to the point that it's actually hitting light. Right, So I think that this with a doubting Thomas society and also talking about Gilgamesh Gilgamesh at Uruk. I'm sorry, listen, guys, I live on and prosper I am going to be utilizing this whole particular segment to actually be going on Darmark and Jelada to Nagra. My bad. But if I get back to

the serious part, that's what we're dealing with here. We're dealing with, you know, people who are scientis air quotes with unfoundable academic credentials to say this is a thing.

Yet if we I would be curious to know, and I think that I would like for both of you all the time and with your thoughts, your final thoughts about this, if these people were probed by actual skeptics who happened to be in the scientific community, who are actual art archaeological archaeologists, paleontologists, people who actually study these things, geologists who are actually very much so aware of how rocks form and how volcanic volcanic eruptions could have actually

been contributed to these things as well how they will react and where and where their answer would lie, or if they were in probe with these particular questions, if they were just completely obscate anything that would be something that would actually give credence to what they what they have found. Uh, do you think that would be a thing or no? And how do you think it would go?

So Eli, I would like for you to, you know, just ponder, you know, conjecture that, and then Jimmy, I would like for you to also, you know, come back as well.

own partner. So it's not a we don't have to ponder like how would this go? We know that like no experts that do have verifiable public records of professional, academic or educational backgrounds in some field that is relevant. They say, no, that's a that's a natural formation. Just like Jimmy pointed out at the beginning, I think in.

the military, so maybe you can relate. But when you're when you're deployed and you're sent somewhere where you're not used to, you kind of bond with people that are not at all like you, and then you start to like pick up each other's habits, mimic each other's behaviors, maybe talk about things and understand things from their perspective.

In this scenario, when you have archaeologists that are that are so well trained and so expert in their field saying this is wrong, the people that are that are purporting, you know, these falsehoods to be correct can just turn around and go back to their flock. When you're isolated. You can't do that right and when when you're in a position where you can't turn back to your flock, you have to hear the facts. Uh and and you know, sometimes that might be effective. Other times it might just

be a means of survival. But you know, or were getting your needs met. You know how many people go to prison and change, you know, they just it's something that you do because the environment calls for it. You know, you go in and you're more religious, You go in and you were never racist before, but now you hate everybody that's not like you, and you just kind of

have to do it. And I think in certain scenarios, you know, when you force people to kind of think about things differently, that that might be the only way. But given the freedom to go back to their indoctrinated group, they're going to stay indoctrinated. So you would literally probably have to cuff them to a table and be like, if you want this cooke, can you're going to listen to my story and you're you're going to listen to

my science. I don't know, but I would say it's not going to be an easy feet.

with real literal accounts of historical events. Even though that we can possibly say that we can put biblical myths and legends or even like Babylonian myths and legends, et cetera, into a category of historical events because they were told in the past, it's still not necessarily something that I believe that we should necessarily give credence to as actual facts.

And shout out to least to the to the geologist that was with Andrew Jones that actually told him like, look, bro, no, you really want to believe this, but your theory is full of shit.