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Christianity Under Fire!

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Why do so many people feel comfortable mocking Christians? Washington Examiner, By Matt Lamb, February 20, 2024 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2864377/why-do-so-many-people-feel-comfortable-mocking-christians/

The Non-Prophets, episode 23.09.04 airing 03-09-2024 featuring Cynthia McDonald, Phoebe Rose, Aaron Jensen and Helen Greene


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Alright, gather round skeptics. Apparently we're still living in the dark ages when making fun of Christianity is all the rage. I mean, come on, who needs comedy clubs when you got ass Wednesday at Georgetown. And let's not forget the glittery ashes, because nothing says I'm taking religion seriously like a sparkly forehead. Right. But if mocking Christianity is the new trend, I got some ideas. How about jello shots, communion or or check this one out

the gospel according to SpongeBob, that's a good one, right. But seriously, folks, let's remember that respect goes both ways. So while we're at it, let's all strive to kind of be better humans, whether we're believers or not. And who knows, maybe one day we'll look back and laugh at the absurdity of it all. This story comes from The Washington Examiner, published February twentyth, twenty twenty four. So I'm curious to hear you guys'

thoughts. Phoebe, what's say, youth? Washington Examiner psychs, I mean, good grief, it's I mean, it dresses itself up, as you know, middle of the road, but I worked out with it. But you in the UK you'll understand it. It is the American version of Daily Mail. It's you know, it's you know, middle class tabloid trash. It's rubbish. And I do know what the Daily Mail is, okay, which the same not the same you know US is not the same as they you know UK. I'll have you know, I'll have you know, damn

it. But yeah, it doesn't matter crap I mean, I mean the tabloid format. I mean, I mean, at least with the red top. You know, it's trash and you're going to get you know, smut on page three and you're going to have extreme nonsense and you know stories that don't mean anything. But you know when it's like you know, middle of the road, you know, like you know, standard format, but you see I like, you know, but in a zeton format because it's like

really awkward thing. And then you and then you've got broadsheet, which is like hello, I'm known through like but anyway back to magism. Is this really the best they can do? I mean, is this really the best that this bloke can do? I mean, this is this what we're worrying about. Is this really what you know mainstream Christianity is worrying about. I mean, what a lead of crap. I mean, this is just a laundry lister. The world is spinning too fast? Oh my god, how

dare you stop the world? They want to get off the roller coasters going too fast? The other is spinning on its exis my compass is pointing north? Again? Whoa are rubbish? I mean talks about you know, some Christians give up social media for the I've got some things that you know, so Christians could give up. Maybe they can give up hatred, intolerance, and cultural wars. Maybe they can give those up for then, and then when they realize their mental health is better, they can give them up forever.

I mean, if this is really that the most pressing concern that these people have, I'd hate to be in. You know, they're least pressing concerns because these are the kind of people that complain that the color of the ink that you're using is all wrong because you know, I'm some Oh I mean I get fed up hearing it because I go, you've for a drip of a human being that's writing, for a drip of an organization that's publishing

these things because they've bought ink by the barrel. And there was something that somebody told me, Never pick a fight with somebody who buys paper by the trees and by the barrel. Saron, do you buy ink by the barrel and paper by the trees. No, it's the internet. A fight with you. The ink is not required, just HTML. I'm gonna be a

little bit pedantic about this guy's argument. First of all, he says that all Christians are under attack, but then the three examples he uses are all Catholic specific, and he even cites a book called the New Anti Catholicism The Last Acceptable Prejudice, and then tries to widen that out into all Christianity's kind of be a little sneaky. I'm not sure what the logical fallacy is here, but he's trying to say, well, these Catholics are being prosecuted,

are being mock so all of Christianity is in trouble. Excuse me, Aaron, I do have to interact because you're getting ashes on your forehead? Is not just cap Okay, yes, you know I stand corrected. Yes, other Protestants have put the whole dirt on their foeheads for years too close to a bonfire will also get ash on your forehead as well, well, So

be careful when you go to barbecuing as well. That can cause ashes, you know, if you've got like flame grilling going and you're you're using real wood palets, that would come into your face, like so if if you are a volcan on you as well. Yeah, yeah, I stand corrected. Yeah, thank you for correcting me. I I still think he's kind of trying a little too hard to make everybody look look persecuted and mocked. And I don't know, and I don't know. I don't know what the

big deal is. I mean, didn't Jesus say that he wanted you to be persecuted. He says, Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecucute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me, Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in Heaven. For in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I mean, shouldn't this guy be writing these guys should be out in the streets party and they're getting persecuted. Yeah, we're getting persecuted. My mansion is gonna be bigger. How do you say that we should be holding persecution parties for this, gentleman. Well, that's what Jesus said. Jesus said, Does this persecution party include you know, yeah, yeah, uh uh stand in front of the in front of the actual temples and all that. Yes, all of that. They all they should be They should be happy

that they're getting persecuted. They're getting mocked because it means, yes, blessings in heaven, man, blessings in heaven. So, I mean that's according to Jesus himself, the big man himself. But it's I I think it's actually a really good sign that Christianity is getting mocked because it means they're less powerful. The powerful people you have, they you can't. You can't mock them, especially when they're really powerful, because they get up killing you at

worst. Uh are you usually today though you most likely to be in for some ostracization where you wouldn't have a community anymore or people wouldn't well com you anymore. But the fact that you can mock the Catholic Church and other Christian churches without fear of losing your life or other terrible things happening to you. That's a good sign because it means they have less influence and less power,

and I think that is a good thing, Helen. So I want to impress upon you know, our audience, like we hear at the ACA, we do not make fun of people. But ideas are up for fucking graps. And guess what religion is an idea? So when I was reading over this article news thing, if you want to call it that, it just reminded me a little of pro clutching. You know, it's all plural clutching.

It's all like, oh my God, like the insulted me. Oh no, the assaulted my God. Listen, mofos, Your God is the creator of the universe, all right, and someone's and if someone makes fun of your God and Christianity and how silly it all is, it's not our problem. And you need to grow a bigger fucking skin, grow up, because guess what we're punching up. Religion has authority. Are the ones going that we need to make fun of this because it deserves to make fun of.

Ideas are up to grabs, don't make fun of people. That's not cool, but ideas. Make fun of ideas, because every idea, atheism should be ready cooled, every everything should be up for ritical because guess what, it keeps you from development fucking eagle and clutching your pearls. So stop it stop you know, remember your you know you're wonderful. Sky Daddy is the creator of the universe. He doesn't need you to go around defending him.

He can defend himself. But he's kind of fucking silent on the whole thing. I wonder why so, But again, I'm going to remind you all you can make fun of ideas, to make fun of people, and I'm and I'm probably gonna have more to say about this that I gotta pull out of my butt because that's what we do this show. So anyway, that's you, Cynthia, thank you, Helena, speaking of but go,

oh my gosh, what I got? Geez my goodness, This article a load is just filled with so many absurdities that it definitely deserves mocking hole right at them, like slapping pigs like cool yas pu yaos po yeah, right in your face. Are the author of this Washington Examiner editorial by mocking Christians. No, first off, I want to kind of pull apart like some of the absurdities that's actually in this particular article, because, like I agree

with Helen, we don't mock people. Matter of fact, some of my closest friends are a Christians. You see what I did. You see what I did there? Yes, yeah. But unfortunately this the the article of itself is oh my god. I just want to go down my list of asserties. Absurdity number one mentioning anti Catholicism the last acceptable prejudice. Newsflash, mister Jenkins, there is no anti Catholicism prejudice that is at the level of

causing anyone to ring the unlarmed. Catholic churches still oh enjoy tax and exempt status in the United States. They are also the still they are also still the largest real estate owner in the world, and Catholics work alongside to overturn Roe v. Wade and got their way. There are no inquisitions in Mass against Catholics, despite the long list and history of the Catholic Church being an

international crime syndicate of surdity. Number two, there are the transgender activists who lied to Saint Patrick's cathedral about the identity of the decease, a male atheist prostitute who presented himself as a woman and held an irrelevant funeral in New York

Catholic church last week. I'm absolutely appalled that activists had to bring themselves to lie in the first place, to have a funeral to dignify the life of a person that has lost their life because they probably were not no more likely were not afforded protections as a sex girl. And I'm even more appalled that in the death of this person, the author had to use this ragged disguise

as journalism and didn't even respect the deceased gender. Thirty number three, The Los Angeles Dodgers hosted blasphemous drag performers who mocked Catholic nuns just last summer. Meanwhile, churches and pro life groups have been under attacked nearly two years since the reversal of roeb Wade Listen, I am pretty sure that the drag performers possibly raised the fun level at the Dodgers game. Well on that point, I say that on this point shook the films, s distrect and numbs on

the rugby band. According to this idiot, according to this idi it must be which I loss dragged ancestor to. You should watch the film Untains on the Rum. That's a really good film. I'm going to watch that, possibly after the recording. But but as a baseball fan in my formal life, I have to say with absolute objectivity that watching a baseball game is boring as fuck. It really is. It is slow and the highlights of homework. Expect the game up and there will be something they spent the game up.

No longer, it takes a whole day. It just takes an afternoon. You want to gain that takes forever. Go watch test cricket. Yeah, five days almost a timeless test finishes. No, no, no, no. I know how cricket games pre pre pre the newer invention of cricket,

how they would last forever and ever. I'm in and I have sat down and watched games with my dad growing up, and they seem like that they took forever, and then you only had that one exciting moment when somebody even got a home run or the other posthumous exciting moment when you're seeing a

grand slam. Going to a baseball game actually in person is way better and I always enjoyed that particular experience, but watching those games is boring as hell, and so having the drag performers come out and doing a number or two raise the whole sensibility of the whole damn thing. So shut up, mister Jenkins. And I just also like to point out, are you kidding me

about pro life groups under attack? Are you freaking serious? Like there are pro choice activists in mass going to pro life organizations like churches to threaten people. No, that is not happening, matter of fact. On the other side of it, there are plenty of pro life people who are going to abortion clinics and they are threatening people. They are sputing, spewing hate to these people. They are also even going to abortion clinics still now in states

where abortion is still protected, and they are blowing them up. Check out Danville, Illinois people. So there are so many different other absurdities I want to put up, but I know that we don't have that much time. But I just want to say to the author of this whole thing, mmonishment for you, your religion is not under attack, and if people are mocking your religion, it's because the ideas that your religion. Actually, aspoud are

mocked ball. I remember having those damn ashes on my head coming from Catholic Church when I was growing up, and and also in Episcopal church as well, and it looked like a big old thing of dirt was just like slapped on top of my hair. I looked freaking ridiculous, aulous, ridiculous. Yes, I was exactly, And that's my point. These things are ridiculous and they deserve to be mocked. So if that's all the rage, my god, maybe any last words, you raise a very interesting point, and

I will always remember these individuals screaming about this. But these people, we don't go screaming when people like George Tilla get murdered. I mean, George Tiller was a church going individual. They still went out and murdered because you

know it performed abortions. So you can know and take your ideas that you're being persecuted against because somebody decided to exercise their free speech rights and you didn't like it, and shove it whether the sun doesn't shine, mister Washington Examiner article writer. And you can also go and use it as toilet paper, because that's just about as much use as it's got in this world. There's

one thing that he has forgotten in this world. You can say what you like in this world, and you could do a fair amount in this world, but you are never immune from the consequences of what you say and do.

You can act like a complete wazokh and I can say what a dumb fuck income poop and don't you have just been and you are not immune from that criticism because my freedom of speech is the same with your freedom of speech and your freedom of expression tomatline a complete more on, and it's my freedom to tell you what a complete tit you're being. That's that's an interesting interesting for me to go on. I'm not sure. Can you ride a segue

or would you rather have a sinclair sea for? I don't know what, I don't know, look what a sinclair for? Oh man, I'm no embarrassed. Uh yeah, Your religion isn't under attack. We just want your religion out of our government. That's what we want. We want you to keep your religion to yourself. It should be a private thing. There shouldn't be in our government. There shouldn't be ten commandments in the There should be

Bibles and the government shouldn't be religious beliefs in the government. You can believe what you want privately, but the government should be a public place where everybody is welcome and that we have laws and policies that are welcoming and help everybody, not just not just religion. So your religion isn't an under attack. What's an attack as you get wanting your religion in our government, that's what

we're attacking. Helen. Yeah, So on this wonderful little filing out that I have, I would like to point out again that when you stop mocking minority groups, will you stop wanting to take away human rights, when you stop reciting horrible, racist, transphomic, homophobic, you know, sexist rhetoric, then we'll stop making fun of your god. So we're just going to sit back, We're going to wait, and we're going to watch. But until then, fuck your god and he can go stick with the sun,

dunshine. And that's all I gotta say about that. Yes, your god safely, yes, yes, right, consent with your God before you go fuck them. But seriously, no, your God can go fuck off. Seriously. But

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