19. Shaquem Griffin - Against All Odds

I remember watching what year was your your combine? Just I just remember watching the whole thing, and I was I think, I think I was just excited for you because you could see the happiness and joy because obviously you know hands and whatnot like, but you were out there and you were you were outperforming other players. And for me, I was just like I wanted I made sure I made my kids, like my son and my oldest daughter. So I was just like, look, look you

see this. I don't want to hear no damn excuses about I'm tired on this or I'm heard or my my footheard. I was like, look look at look at what we're witnessing right here. This is your Look look at this. You think he worried about like his what what hurt on him, Like he is out there giving it everything. So I, um, yeah, man, I just I'm here to tell you face to face, you were a teachable moment. Thank you for letting my kids see that. Like that was Um, that was a teachable moment. Let's

talk about why you hear. So you're one of the mentors, right, So what are some of the things that you're trying to tell these prospects as they come through. I mean for me, it's just kind of giving them idea of kind of how to approach. And I think the best thing to get is always tell them to not only embrace the moment that you're in, because everybody wished to be here and you got to select few you are

and you're a part of that select few. And the thing is, don't go in and just toning to be nervous and want to run around, like take something in you know, remember it. You know you want to be able to come back. And like for me, is I learned it from my brother. He was like this, make sure when you're going to enjoy yourself, don't feel stressed out to have anxiety about why you're here. You know

you're supposed to be here. You deserve to be here, so at like it and said, when you're going in and embrace everything that comes with it and be able to bring something back and talk about because you never know, you might end up back here speaking about it. And that's something I tell him, Like you to relax. You've been doing this for so long, same drills, running around doing what you're doing since you was a little kids

or however when you started since the same process. And no, there's no reason to have any extra anxiety while you're out there. But you were blessed though, you were lug enough to have a brother go through this process and then you could kind of lean on him. And he was, I've been telling people, you know, I talked to our money tumor and when our money not when we went through back and he said he went through a nineties six,

I went through an oh three. The combine was like it was like a myth, Like they didn't have TVs, they didn't have social mediacast none. It was you didn't get none of that. So it was just like and if you didn't know someone who went so I'm I'm a small school Lafayette and like I didn't know anyone that was good enough to go to the combine. So I didn't really know nothing. I just was like, I just was here. I just yeah, I didn't. I didn't really heard about they make you run and do drills,

But I didn't really know. I didn't know what you knew, because you know, you had you had your brother like I didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't do that. So I think it's you're basically now you can get a peek at the test. Literally, when my brother came back from the combine before his pro that he was already teaching me things that he was already learning. Yeah, so I knew. I knew how to getting the forty start before I

got before I got to my seiing season. I knew the steps he was taking in his shottle before I got to my senior season. I used to go visit him m J P while he was training. I was out there with him, so already was already meeting guys. I was already getting the knowledge of it, and I used to practice it during season when I look extra time, I always the same thing. I used to always walk over hurdles, go under the hurdles, and then work on

my forty starts. Then when you did the hurdles that you has a hair down or was the heir hero was up? You know, it was more of it just kind of getting a hip stronger and making sure that was always right. It was just the extra stuff that I did was like not only I'm gonna play football and get ready for the season, but I'm gonna get my stuff, you know, properly, like ready for when I do go into training. I'm already got the head start. And then so crazy because like how do you know

all that? Like y'all know, y'all trained my brother right, Sorry, I'm taking the same steps the same as that steps. Now you had you had a pretty good combine. Yeah, Like it was like a mimic of my brothers. Like I mean you you you you showed out. Yeah, it was a spend image you. You showed out. I think he still hold the record for the fastest, uh right, for that's moving a lot of practice. I was practicing for a while. I think I think I ran like a four four six, so they thought I was gonna round.

It was funny because the thought I was gonna run something like four six four or seven. I remember I had one visit and it was with Seattle and he asked me, how fast you think you're gonna run? I was like, what you think is fast? You're like what four? Line? Back? Like four or six? That said, what you think is really fast? He was like, well four three or four four? I was like, well four three right there down I'm running that. It's so crazy. I told my brother, I'm

around for three just like you. No like a foofolk, I see a foofol. I'm a run for three. I probably for three. And like my best friend t though, he's like, yeah, you're running for three, bro, Like you know, all I needed was one guy. You know I'm gonna get it. And I told Pete the same thing. They say, you think four three very fast? Let's watch out for and literally when I run it. They showed a clip and he was like, oh my goodness. I told you.

I remember as soon. I didn't know. Mind you, when you're running, you don't know the time until you get back. I remember saying, have birthday, mama. I knew I ran fast, See, I didn't even I only I think I knew like like later that evening or somebody didn't. They didn't knew. Once I got done, I was like, have birthday, Mama. I just knew you. I felt it. Yeah, that's that's up. So when you and your brother were growing up, who

was always faster? It was back and forth. I feel like I started off the fastest, and then throughout time it's like what was going back and forth? And then he was coming up, and then that was when I was going up in wade this and that. So it was the ongoing battle. But it was never a point to where somebody was just clearly faster. It was like you wanted to work, You're gonna get your hand, you ut put your Handshin's gonna line for this one, buddy.

Every time you used to run against the one hundred, the two hundred, even when we did the four about four. We used to look at times in the four hundred jumping no matter what it is, because competition. Even when we walk into school, I bet I take less steps to you, and it's very so I don't want to twitter anything like that, but we I think my brother, So I'm my brother and I with three years a party. He's always kicked my button full basketball and caller. I

was like the little running the letter. I think not until my sophomore year we played basketball. I was finally able to beat my brother. That was a bigger conversation. Happy birthday, Mama, I just happy birthday. Made it. I made it so. Yeah, the day I beat my brother and he probably don't even notice, but that's when I was like I had even more confidence. I was like, now that I just beat you, I'm never losing again, Like it's yeah, I got you, I got you. I

will never lose a game again. Feeling being close to my brother though, it was just like you're gonna take a l, you're gonna get some w You're gonna feel very confident. But it's an L around the corner. Yeah, and that's why it was. It was always going at it like everything is competition to this day, like now we're getting involved in so much stuff, entrepreneurship and stuff like that, and it's still competitive. It doesn't stop nowhere.

But that's what But don't you think that's why you are the way you are right now because of how you and your brother grew up, meaning um competing against each other, like pushing each other. I feel like for us, it gave us a competitive edge because I know how hard he was going and I wanted to be him. Anybody who came even under that, I wasn't gonna stand a chance. Like you have to give your best at

this moment for you to win. And that's how we felt like it was something when my day to say, um, he was running two hundred, he was like, man, I was like that, Man, I'm going to the final. But these guys so fast, they said they ran this before. It like tell them running to day right he did. He ran in a couple weeks ago. He got running the day to beat me because my time is this, but I'm playing on beating my time that I ran

another week, he got to come with it. And now when I wanted two hundred, I was like that here on that time today. And it makes someone saying like you have to bring your best right now if you want to win. And that's what my brother Lou. It's either I'm gonna win on he gonna win, but we're gonna bring a hundred percent best. If you're not bringing out the day, you're gonna take that hell. But I

know that's what I'm gonna bring. I'm bring Hunt saying that's all I got support system is sports is very strong. I feel like that's something where you know, I gave us an age too, because not only is my brother competitive, I feel like the stuff and the sacrifices of my mom and dad and my older brother's maide. You know, they didn't have to how many, how many how many families. It's four of us, it's four of us. It's Andre, Terrel, my brother, Shaquille, and then I'm the baby. But I

went in Unfortunately sixty seconds. I could have been sixty second, sixty one things I would have been older. What if it rose when the flip, but hey, it happens, you know, on the baby. But the thing is, I feel like for them, my competitiveness really came and started with my mom and dad telling me that you can't do this, you can't and I felt like they wouldn't allow me

to make excuses. I mean even when I wanted to play running back, I was like, what nine years old, and but that like, you sure you're gonna pay running back. They're gonna punch the ball, They're gonna snap the ball from I said, no, they're not. He's like, well grab the ball. Then I was run in the backyard and he snatched me and like slum me across the are. I said, I got the ball, though, you're all right, play running back and literally twelve touch. That was later

that year. I was beat that running back. And the thing is like he was like gonna sturch the ball and the fact that I told him no, he tried every single time and I'm not letting the ball go because how did you? But how did you get that mindset? Though? Like let's in like a shorter version, like talk about your left arm and then like how you came and

like tell me, tell me, tell me that story. I mean I feel like, like I said, the support system around me and what helped me gain confidence because my older brother didn't take a light. My twin brother didn't take a light. And I hated losing, so like, what you're gonna do, You're gonna fix it. Even when I was learning how to catch the ball, my dad was like, you're gonna get him in the face, and then you're gonna learn to stop letting the ball hit your face.

And I did that. I didn't like the ball hit my face. I had to stop. So in me, I had to create a confidence, and you know what, I really can do this, Like, there's no excusesna make excuse. I'm I'm gonna get in the face every time, so stop hearing. The excuse is fools on the ball and make sure I see it all the way in. Stop

getting hit in the face. When it comes to me with my brother going out and playing football or anything else, it was just like, Okay, I know he can do this, and I know I can do this too, So it's like, how do I get a competitive And I'm just gonna keep working and keep working and keep working it until it I'm down patting and like, I bet try me now,

and I got something for you. And as I got older and even from like other coaches, other kids, you know, you know, kids can be a little not not really knowing, but kids are me. You can bleep that out, but yeah, kids are kids are me. They say they say, they say mean things, they're hurtful, but they know it's just they say what they see. And that gets at a young age is not only kids are saying stuff. Now. My brother was the puncher. I was like, that's funny.

My brother like, no, that ain't. I had a brother like that, you was, he was the hot head. I was like the happy go lucky. So I beer and my brother was like, man, don't try my brother. I got something for you know what. I know, I'm watching you. That's how he was. And I remember, um my first interception. I was ten years old, and I remember we had this one. We had to like you got the way in, you gotta make a certain weight. And I remember this like right for the last game for the playoff, and

I was already doing good scoring touchdowns. I was playing old line de lion. I was just making plays like crazy. And then the coaches telling me it was like, um no, let me go back for us. When I was winning in he said I was overweight, and mind you, I'm doing all this process. And I knew. I waited in twice that morning before the actual way in. I said, how didn't make way? It's impossible. And then actually when I came in, my coach way and I made way.

And then the coach asked the other coaches like, why would you say he didn't make weight? Oh, man's a man. It's a two handed sport, Like what does that even means? The two in sport? I guess I'm the only one who's doing this because I don't deserve to play, and then like, now you're gonna play in my two sacks. Remember the last game, the clustered playoffs spot and you said your ten right? I remember it was a slant route.

Slant route came and I remember just jumped in front of it, caught the ball and then spent on my back and fail like this first interception of remember you holding the ball the game over there, like, yeah, I guess you wish you I didn't play for real? Huh that gets through the ball at the coach. That's when I knew how to shift my mindset to say you know what, yeah you said I do. I can't. I can't do this. It's not norm, but I'm gonna make it a norm for you. I'm gonna making I'm gonna

make you see how you're supposed to look. So now you can't judge if you got one or two because I got sex and interception like I did, so like not what you're gonna say? Now? Did you? Was that? The was that? That was? So? That was the first time he felt that, you know, a coach treat you a certain kind of way because of only having one hand. Yes, did you? Did you? Have to do that in college.

Excuse me, high school, every literal league to high school to high school to college, the college to the league. It's it's a process. It's another barrier that you've got to be able to steal in the league. You still got it even after it got worse in college. Yeah, it got really blunt because that's their job on the line. You know, when when they started being like the high school was, I was. I was already outstanding of people

around me. So it was just like I was able to work through that and me and kill was on our way to going to the same college. But when I got to college, that's when I know business is real because now I kind of found out that the coach that recruited us knowing that we was gonna go to a separate school. But like, what do I need to do to get Shaquille Griffin here? I gotta bring on his brother. And I thought, I'm head over here,

like I made it. Now I'm here. Then three years going by and next ure, you know, I'm getting all kind of neglect. I'm getting talked down about. You know, I was on the I was on the scout team for a while, and I remember literally that the next few years, the weight coaches like you only image of your brother, You just a shadow, or you're never gonna be nothing. You think you're gonna really go out there

and then ball out. We're doing all this work, you think you're gonna really get there, Like I don't know what kind of reinforcement he was going to put on me, but it was not the one I wanted, and like yeah, and it was tough, and then I got to the point where I got sent home. My third year, I had to work two jobs. I remember, I was toying for my dad from seven am to six I work out from six thirty to seven thirty, and then I'll go from my job from no to one am, cleaning

the builders with my brother. And at that time, like, man, I'm home. Ain't nothing I gonna do. And then my coach telling me or called my brother into the office or I'm home throughout the last few months, and like I'm thinking, gonn sing your brother to a juco or do two school to finish education. I don't think football is for him, Like, well, you never gave me a chance to the show where I can do the thing. All I did to this setting the side scout team

or doing whatever I can do. You send me home to see if my brother can do well without me, as if I was a distraction, and my brothers like, we'll send me, send me too. I need my paper work quit right now. So we're both going my brothers like he stormed out. It's like as it, I'm going to do two of my brother. And then they called him back, like we'll bring your brother back. The same process over again for him to stay, you gotta bring me back. I remember I was literally I remember this

same as that outfit. I might have some orange and white Griffy's on blue Wrangler jeans and a neon green shirt that all my dad's so like sizes like thirty eight pants and I wore like a thirty it was a two ex shirt. I wore a medium, so like yeah, I'm I'm just work closed. And I remember we called me like you come back to school and I got my scholarship back. And then I when we had the O M twelve year and he left like the sixth game of the season, I'm just for me to come back.

He made me murther cut out hair, like you would not look at this on our team, like you're gonna cut your hair and you're gonna have match our uniform, like we got dressed when we don't match the uniform. So it was like a whole thing that's going back and forth, like he didn't want us to be there, they didn't want me to be there. And then that's when we got the opportunity with Scott Frost and first

meeting feel like why didn't you play? Like we're looking at your your patents tape and this and that, like you were just type A player while you didn't play cold honestly, and I think I could play. I saw disability. I was like, do you think I could play here? I'm not judging you that. Of course Frost told me, he said, you gotta clean slate here, show them what you're out. I said, thank you, That's all I needed. And then they sudn't know my first time starting. I

remember the first play, I was chasing a stretch. I remember soon I start changing, the boss started throwing up anxiety. I couldn't have been so long. I told my back, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I don't know what to do. He's like, bro, how you can't breathe. You're talking to me. Oh yeah, you're right right, I said, listen, bro, I know it's been a while, but listen. It's my brother senior year or two. So I've been waiting for a while to get to that point. He's like, bro,

just play football. You've been doing this for so long. Just play you here, now play and they say no. The next place, sack, another sack, forced fumble, brother got two interceptions. It was like, that was my breakout game and next ain't no. Thirteen sexs later, I was a decent player of the Year All American Is. It's like, boy, I'd been a long time waiting on that, but that's all I needed. Just let me just imagine if you could have did that with the previous regime administration, Like

you do, you do? You do? You often think about that. No. I feel like for me is if somebody's like, would you go back and do it again? I was like yes, because it created a different beast in me. I already had one. But it's like I could have the mindset and let it phoone me. Come on you, I didn't when I working on two jobs. A lot of people are gonna just take that hour to workout. They weren't thought they mean nothing, but it meant something to me.

You know, I'm exhausted. I'm working. I'm working money through Saturday because I'm trying to keep that schedule as if I'm in school. I don't want to I don't want to sleep in the house. I don't want to just be running around the neighborhood. No, I don't want to hang out with my friends. I'm gonna go to work, I'm gonna workout. I'm gonna go back to work. I'm gonna go to sleep and do it all over again.

I remember my dad was telling me, like, you save your money like eight while wats for breakfast, munching done, had the whole routine laid down until I got my shot. My brother's literally called, like you're working out, taking off my neon green shirt, my regular genia. I'm getting ready now, man. No, and I go at the workout, go clean business. But I like in me is my brother still checking out me and he's not giving up. I'm not gonna give up because he gave up a lot just for me

to be even beat that with him. So I'm gonna keep until I get back. I don't know how it's gonna look. I'm gonna keep going. And then and it worked out like I feel like me being up to get over the obstacles and teach myself about how to change my mindset that they know what. It's never over. You know, things just don't go your way when you want it. Keep fighting, it's gonna it's gonna turn over because having a bad hand, you're gonna get some good

cars later. I got you, man, That's how I felt, and end up working out like damn, I finally got me a good hand. I'm gonna play the hell like this hand. Now damn show did damn show good? So when you read Central Florida, y'all want the national championship, right, So there's we gotta we gotta talk about this like discrepancy if like if y'all want it or so what

we all ranks? Because I knew you guys was after before we end up playing arben Um doing the peace ball, we was already ranked number ten and after beating and was ranked number five or six, But we never really had the opportunity to even get into the playoff. Frank anyway,

we thought we would, you know, what I'm saying. It's not always like well, uh this the season was not as hard as on the season, but we're bought our teams about points make it hard then and they were like, well, we're gonna put Urban on the Peach Bowl is put them on the And for us, it was just like, we want to showcase what we can do. We don't care about what name they got, but that's how we

was brought up. We created our culture within u C for like, no matter who you is, no matter what team you come from, no matter how big you are, we dogs too, and all dogs come in differentiation sizes. Because we wanted to showcase that, and no, man, we're still to this day, I still scream we wish we had Alabama. I wanted to feel couple that we was

abusing it was abusing armor. I need somebody else to abuse all this big dog talk and literally it's so crazy in the interview is just like what y'all gonna do versus Arbor? Why I keep asking why what we're gonna do? And what came? How y'all gonna stop that? Well? I can't this is that why I can't talk about what good places we're gonna make it. Well, yeah, I know you're gonna do this and do that talk good out of You're already telling us we're gonna get our buzzswood, right,

So it's all right. I said, yeah, I said, we can be on the dog. We're gonna see us that you're gonna have to see us, and thank is. We want to showcase that to the entire country. But and sometimes they'd be afraid of our little dog. That bite real hard. I ain't want to see it. So whose idea was to put because on the ring it says national me, me, Mackenzie, who else? Who else? To us? There's a lot of us. We go like we go, like you know, got the captains. So it was like

five hours, we're gonna put that on there. We're gonna put that on and we wanted on the banner on that stadium. They're gonna see this every year. Facts we're designing beating national championship. I don't care. You have to put my little number one big national championship. So that was okay. So team captains decided that okay, they gave it the option two and like they're gonna go to the board because I guess Alabama and one year claimed the national championship also, so I was like, so we're

not the first one. We're claiming this because we got to go through the boards and the n C Double A and everything, and they all lot of us do it. It's over. I get these rings, right, Okay, Okay, so y'all know, so you can just so if I won, I don't know. We always go to the money grab bowl in my my college. Ain't nothing wrong with the money right, wrong with it. So first off, I won six games in college all four years, Like yeah, yeah, I don't think people know that, Like, like, I won

six games. So I feel you when you talk about like to keep moving, just keep pushing. Yeah, I had a I had a terrible hand. I had to play what I had and eventually the hard work paid off. I don't think I ever got a good hand as far as winning games or anything like that, but yeah, the hand paid off is as far as just the work that was stayed, staying focused in the work that I put into, um, just my craft and trying to

get better. A lot of humility because it's it's hard to stay full is when you're doing a lot of losing there's a lot of negativity within the office, the people, and it's a contagious it's a contagious energy when it couldn't losing. So it's tough to work at craft. And you know what I believe and what I'm putting out there. You know what I'm saying. Everybody like it's a team sport, but you still have to focals on your craft and

doing right no matter the loss of the win. The thing that blew me away was I was on scal poor kid at came from nothing, made something and you know, my mom, dad, they worked hard, did a good job raising me. So I couldn't afford college. But I'm on this scholarship and again we're like waterboy, like we're just losing games non stop, and like you said, we're being teams about points. I was, Yeah, I was that team. I was on the other side. So I don't, I don't,

I don't. I don't know what it's like to be anybody by forty or fifty points. Like we was the team on the just the other end of the stick, like it just was bad. Happen to get in a ball game. So we got to a bowl game. When I graduate, or excuse me, Like when I graduated and then like years, a decade went by and now they're in bowl games, like now they're you know, top twenty whatever. But when I was there, we got and I told

us amandi tumor. I was like, you got a pair of cleats, you got a pair of gloves, and you got a set of wrist bands, and that was all you had for the years. So if you played a team just for the game, no no, no, no, no, no no no, just for the season, you gotta pair of wrist bands for the season. So you was looking clean the first Yeah, I know, I know, And I went to a D one. I was a small D one,

but that was one pair of gloves. So even when you got a tear, or get some tape or put some of that the stuff that they spray on your to make the tape stick to make the pre priv as a different time, you have to straight up alright, they they good right now. I got about ten catches and not before I got to spread again. So I

come from a I come from a different time. But I say that to say I applaud you in respect going through that and then having I don't know, you're ten years old and having a coach a this is a two hand sport young man that then going to high school and then dealing with whatever coaches told you there and then I'm sure there were probably some some non believers, some doubters when you made it to the next level, and I'm sure they're probably still some doubters now.

It became a norm. I mean even before the Combine, I ain't gonna comb invite to the last invite was sent and I went. After all these years I had, you know, I put up some good numbers. I was in that caliber talk with everybody else but them coaches that was choosing all the votes. I was coming in didn't believe, like, you know, I could come in and really show what I've been putting out in the field. And I remember going to the Singing Bowl and I put on another show. It was it was the Pactice.

It was the practice week m VP for putting on good tape. And I finally got my invite. I remember they said make a video. Was I was in was in Dallas outside of uh green is Green is grill? I angle? He said make this video right now. He took me outside, make a video and said that you got invited. Let them know that they messed up. You should put that out there by your should Like he said, oh yeah, man, they talk, they talk to your mess right now. I was like, yeah, I got invited to

the combine. Yeah, you messed up, you messed up. I got something for y'all. Dampoo posted on Twitter. They said no, he said no, and I said, back it up now? Is it is it safe to say that you're your older brother? About one minute? Is your biggest fan? Oh big fans, biggest fan, biggest being on in my hero? And after I called my whole family my hero. You know,

everybody they don't see like a little avengers. You know, they they set a pathway for me to to really give my best, you know what I'm saying, and all the negativity and stuff like that. You know, like I said, avengers can't save every single thing. But they was able to put their sholds around me and it made and it made a real good path for me. I could have went left, could with the other way. I could have went backwards, but they believe me so hardly, like

there's no reason for me not to go forward. I think, like life, it's hard and you know, life is like one long journey, and in journey you need guides and along the way in life you gotta figure out who those guides are. And I've been blessed and luck enough to to to um, there was a gentleman. We walked out, I think y'all walked in front of me, and I adapted him up. His name is Dwayne Joseph. He was

my player engagement coach. Now he's the assistant general manager, and um, I talking about time vague, and when he was the player engagement guy, we talked about goals and everything, and he said my goal, I want to be a general manager, and he said it in stone. Now he's he's I think he's almost there and he should be a general manager in this league. But I remember that that was like two thousand three, and I remember that and him just like preaching and just mentoring and and

telling me all these things. And I to this day, I still tell that story how he helped me and and I'm still using things that he taught me when I was a little dumb, young rookie. And you have an important job this weekend with these with these prospects coming in and man I'm just uh, I'm happy you're here. I'm happy they reached out to you. I hope that they listen, we had a good car yesterday. I will

teaching some of the lb is about financial literacy. Yeah, may didn't even understand that at that point, and I was like, I didn't. I didn't have the opportunity to hear somebody from my point of view when I was when I was going through this process, I stuck. So I'm gonna give you what I felt like I should have had. So I'm gonna teach you this. You know what I'm saying. I'm giving you out there, Like when you start getting a little bit of money, don't be

trying to just put all that. It's it's okay to enjoy yourself, but it's okay to take bits and pieces and set yourself up for something else. And I even broke it down down to the math. Now you can do this and be able to do that. Like, listen, I know one thing is I learned, like a lot of people say me growing up, especially where I come from, they alwaysupposed to run away from that. Don't have that,

don't have that. And I get to the point where I had the opportunity that I'm in and as the thing gets to run to it and create opportunity bigger than you even imagine. And I put that all into perspective from them, and they was able to see light from that. So now I know, like, obviously you can talk to the big group of people, but you don't even need a few people are gonna take it in. Somebody will, And I know that it was. It was something where vowed them, vowed that kid in their shoes.

I would have been that guy who I was a spun I'm taking it all in, So I knew how valuable it was. And now I can see five times for you. I may get a text, I may get a tweet or a d M and thinking like thank you, bro, thank you for that, and it goes a long way because I know me showing him that next five ten years, he's gonna show somebody else. He gonna show somebody else, and it's an on going sting. And now you just create a new culture within the combined experience. As far

as Tesse's cares, something that you want to know. Financial literacy being able to not only have money and enjoy yourself and be able to put things and set up for the future. You don't know how it's gonna go. You know, everybody ain't. Everybodyn't have the same hand. Set yourself up. You got an opportunity for you gonna start getting some things. Do right with it. Mike Drop, We're gonna end it on that note. I'm Peanut Tillman came Griffin.

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