¶ Entertaining conversation about business ideas and creativity.
Hey, welcome to The Next Wave Podcast. I'm Matt Wolfe. I'm here with Nathan Lands and once again, we've got an amazing episode for you. In this episode, we're going to break down some business ideas that leverage AI that we wish existed that don't exist yet. So, ideally, people listening to this episode will go and maybe build some of these things because these are ideas that we think there's some money behind. Today we have a Siqi Chen on.
So, he created a startup called Sirius Business that he sold to Zingha for a ton of money back in the day. And since then, he's been one of the most prominent angel investors in Silicon Valley. He's now running Runway.com, which is a great startup.
So, this is legitimately one of the most fun conversations I think we've had on this show where me, Nathan and Sikki, we just sort of bounce ideas off each other for businesses. And as we share ideas, the ideas just ramp up more and more and more and get spicier and spicier to the last one, which I think is going to blow some people's minds. I mean, I know it scared me a little bit when he gave the idea. We get into some crazier and crazier ideas as this episode goes on.
So, check this episode out. It's probably going to give you some ideas for spin-off businesses or ways that you can use AI and your business that you're not thinking of or businesses that you can potentially go build. But it is a fun episode, a fascinating episode. I think you're really going to enjoy it. So, let's dive in with Sikki Chen.
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Yeah, I guess first of all, to give people some context, why you're here, how you got on the show, and a little bit about how we know each other. Yeah, funnily enough, I thought I was here because I tweet about AI and people will follow you on Twitter or whatever. But as soon as I heard it out, I was just reminded that the reason I'm here is, you announced you had a podcast. That's why I'm here. I invited myself. So cool. We were thinking today, we really want to try some new.
Just share AI business ideas, some of them may be great, some of them may suck. Sounds good, I can't prepare. Awesome. Let's go ahead and talk about some of these business ideas. I think we should start with Nathan, because I know Nathan's got three lined up. And again, if they suck, the comment section will let us know. Yeah, my first idea was just, you know, it actually comes back. I think the last time we met, he was in Hong Kong, is that the last time we met in person.
And that was back when I was, when I was party with Barry Osborne, you know, the producer of Lord of the Rings and the Matrix, I was trying to create this crazy crypto-funded movie studio. And we were going out to New Zealand and Hollywood a lot together, like me and Barry. And I got this tour of Weta when I was out in New Zealand. It was amazing. I was blown away by it.
Yeah, I got the whole air going sword, Weta workshop. And also, like seeing their business, like how much money they make just making all the special effects and stuff for movie studios. It's like, that's a great business. And now that you've got AI video, it feels like there's an opportunity for like almost like a weta for like AI video, right? We're all that, you know, whether it's in movies or TV or games to go out there and be like the shop that specializes in creating AI videos for films.
But yeah, I don't have much to say about it beyond that, but that's the idea. So good, interesting sucks. I'm not sure how much I could stay. There isn't much, but I think it's a great idea. Yeah, I am aware of some new companies that I'm not allowed to disclose doing this with very incredible people. But I think I can talk about though is related, which is there's a company called NIN video and it started by this guy Yuri who ran super down and very credible founder raised a lot of money.
¶ AI as a tool for thought, not doing.
And the entire idea is the state of the art for generative models is going to be open source. And so you're going to need professional grade workflow tools to orchestrate all of these. So you want something more fine brain than what runway ML alone can provide you. And he's getting started with that. It's got a bunch of traders on a platform. So this idea of professionalizing in general, a AI tools at special effects. I think it's huge.
I guess my question though is like how close are we to not necessarily needing an agency where you're just enter the prompt of like here's the video I need and it gives it back to you that you know that the agency is just like a middleman that people don't need anymore. There's a very related question how we think about AI in our own product runway. So we build like this by the platform and you know you there's a lot of people who use AI to make finance better whether it's like plan your model.
And our very particular philosophy on this is that the best use of AI in this curriculum is today and I think also in the future is as a tool for a spot rather than a tool that does a thinking for you. And I think when I think about like anything creative and I think that really most things that you do are creative whether it's like finance business or like creating a movie like you you would rather have something that helps you offload your intent your creative a 10 faster.
And that's like I think what AI can do at its best. I'm a little bit less bullish on the AI is just going to do it all for you. Until you know when yes like ASI happens like I think in the middle world but until that point tools for thought is my bet on good AI products. Yeah, yeah. And I mean yeah if ASI happens we probably don't know about having an agency or money anyways right so it's like.
Yeah and I mean like right now you've got AI art tools you got AI video tools you got runway you got Gen 3 there's some people who somehow managed to get really amazing stuff out of it and then a lot of people who no matter what they do can't get anything good. So I mean even use a guy there seems to be some level of skill to get really good stuff out of them you know.
I should clarify this you mentioned runway I'm not under of runway ML which is the order one makes the videos again I run a company called runway dot com. And we're from the platform the real runway you've got the better domain name. Yeah I people get the two copies of choose all the time it's actually really well. So I guess the I'll share like my my first business idea is actually the second on my list but it's related to videos I'll share this one first.
And it's something that I wish I had and it may exist so if it does exist feel free to share but I want a tool where I can take like video footage out in the wild let's say I'm like going on vacation with the family and I take video with the family and I record like a roll of me talking to my camera or I find stock
footage on a website and I just want to be able to take all of this video footage that I have loaded into some sort of platform have AI like scan all of the content for me and then give it tags give it descriptions and right now it's easy to do if there's like talking right it can obviously transcribe the audio and then figure out tags and stuff but I want
something where I can throw videos of just like me filming the Eiffel Tower or me filming my family running on the beach and I throw it in there and it watches the video and organizes with tags and descriptions based on the content of the video that way when I'm going to like make my YouTube videos I can go in and say my family on the beach and you're like find that video for me and surface it and it feels like something that should exist but I haven't found it yet and that's something I really really really like.
I really really want to see exists is just something that I can just dump tons of video content and have it sort organized tag and make searchable for me. She's things come to mind I I saw where you're going is you just want a bunch of clips and having us edit the video for you.
Now I actually like the editing process for me that's like where the creativity lies that I enjoy doing but I have a hard time when I shoot like hours and hours and hours of footage while I'm at an event and then come home and then look for the specific clips that I need to cool my video together so I know no of specific products that you exactly that this closest thing I think of that it's Google photos yeah I think Google will do this right because Google does it for photos already so yeah it doesn't for video to already does it so you just search for like sushi text.
Beech I have not tried Google photos for that so maybe so it could be a horrible business idea of Google is already doing it. I do think the idea of like generally you have a bunch of close and will make stuff for you or help you tag it as a great one I know captions is you know the most there's a closest company to that much or how much it does of organizing or treating for you but the tools that has like really good and it's do along your phone yeah that's a first.
When I think about captions may have even been the company because I actually put this idea on Twitter I don't know it's been several months in a company jumped in and said oh we're working on this wink wink and I feel like it might actually. Captions yeah I'd be surprised if they weren't that sounds like right up there yeah alley yeah cool see key your turn okay so not so I see one but very tries to go I use a service called same box and it said email.
¶ Automatically categorizing emails based on specific criteria.
Prioritize or filter and it's really good I I just apply a label to my emails and it'll know okay this type of email in the sun person I'm going to. But it later or I'm going to black hole it never see it again or I can create a custom label it's just really good at what it does it's been around for like 15 years gone all kinds of like little features what I love about it is a primary interface is.
Jing out because you don't actually interact with the website really just have that once and they just apply labels and I'm just automatically learn and I'll pick up like a your training right and the way I'm training just like we still can get your box and I was like oh this is actually. So what I want and I wanted this so bad I actually built a crappy version of this myself using the air is I wanted to be able to categorize what emails automatically in unstructured ways.
So I want to say hey all the really intellectual smart sub stacks should go here and everything related to my kids should go this folder and my kids school stuff and homework should go here and everything from our investors to go there and I don't want to you know you don't want to make cane like a running list of this stuff you just want to say this is my intent.
So I have a zap that does this it reads every single email and I have a giant prompt that describes all the labels and all the descriptions of the labels and it'll actually go and apply the labels it's not great the thing that is missing is and it's almost you do us a work on this but I just wish I will build us for me which is.
I want to learn and a rag it as as as I'm changing the labels right so if you get something wrong I want to say I well this is like I've this wrong update the props I think that was to be super useful instead of.
So I can just describe the vibes of the email I want and I'll know what to show me where to put it and that's my not spicy idea that also has the one is that yeah that's actually I tweet about something similar that a few months back and then somebody respond to me saying oh I'm building that and I guess they like raised a little money but then it's already kind of like it didn't work out or something I'm not sure I've also been wondering like why is super human not done this maybe just.
To different from their existing product but I feel like they should be doing that I don't know yeah you would say yeah I can see that big super super useful I mean I wrote it to the same kind of stuff right like I use the same email address from most of my stuff so I get emails from my kids school and also be great if it worked across multiple inboxes right like one of the things that I like about super human is that I can just kind of quickly switch between tabs of all my email accounts so it'd be cool if it was just like these are all my email addresses sort across all those.
Yeah so the thing that works and it's already like pretty valuable is I can say and I do say if it's a cold in down sales email put it in a folder and I've had it.
¶ Custom newsletter curates content from various sources.
Yeah that's just something you can't do right like you have to read it's like oh it's just selling cold emails out of the oh yeah yeah but if we're a friend that I know and it's worth then like pushing the inbox that's a level of intent I want to offload right and right now even with same box you have to train over time says well these are the same.
So these are the specific important email addresses and it can't really figure out of it so it cold cold email it sort of does but it's not always super liable and an a actually read it email and do a pretty good try to tell. So if anybody's listening to this and they've tried to cool email you with a pitch and you never got back now you know why. Just pretend like you're his friend just like.
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Well, damn so my next one's like very similar. My next one's basically like custom newsletter where like you know you take different sources you're getting an inbox whether it's newsletters or other thing you know what the new podcast episodes or whatever and kind of consolidating all that into a single newsletter now I don't know what the business model be there because you're kind of I guess you're
screwing over the newsletters and you know I have a newsletter Matt has a newsletter. Don't necessarily like this idea personally but I as you know it's a business owner I don't like it as an individual I would love to have
something where I can just like here's all this stuff I actually care to learn from you know the substats and different newsletters and just give me a summary in one of the email every day or every week or whatever I do I walked out yeah it's actually not bad if you make it so that I still have the suspected of some staff. Right. Yeah I feel like it exists too I feel like I've seen I don't know the name of the two I'll talk to my head but I feel like I've seen
something like that before. I know that you know I have to say teen kind of like summarizes like the gives you a bit which is like kind of related but the idea of like yeah I also remember there was something that like I'll create a podcast like a daily briefing out of your stuff about that was a lot of that's what called jelly pod that was that that's what was that that one used to you they give you a specific email address you go and subscribe to newsletters with that email address
and then it gives you a daily podcast that sort of summarizes all of those newsletters into a single audio now there is one caveat that only let you subscribe I think to 10 newsletters and I subscribe to way more than 10 newsletters but if you can subscribe up to
10 newsletters on it and every day it'll like submit to your podcast feed so wherever you listen to podcasts it'll you know it creates an RSS feed so you can actually listen to that podcast episode and it breaks down everything that was in those 10 emails in a little
¶ Brilliant Labs offers camera glasses with display.
10 minute briefing that's a great idea I'm I'm I'm I'm I literally have an open right now I'm going to sign up for it.
It reminds me like one of the tools our team built it's a thing that just goes through the last week's worth of customer or a success calls and it takes a transcript summarizes it and extracts insights and he turned it to a podcast using level labs with my voice as a deep fake so like every Monday press play and the likes may tell you know what happened to all the shit are coming as experience.
That's awesome for me I think feed Lee is is another tool that is like pretty underrated that I don't hear enough about but feed Lee is a tool where you can subscribe to RSS feeds right you can subscribe to your favorite blogs but it also gives you a
¶ Remember people's faces with AI image recognition.
custom email address so you can go and subscribe to newsletters with feed Lee so then every day you just open up your feed Lee platform and it will say here's all the newsletters that came across here's all that you should know from all these various blogs so like you know I make a I make a video every week of like here's all of the AI news that came out for this entire past week I pretty much just watch feed Lee every day to keep up with that stuff so I'm subscribed to Google's
blog open AI's blog and tropics blog stability AI's blog you name it I'm subscribed to their blog and then I'm also subscribed to like every existing AI news letter out there so every day I get sort of like it's not like a briefing I still have to kind of click through each one one at a time but I have like a single point where I can go through and like look at everything real quick and get caught up. Oh laser up.
All right so this is something that I think is sort of inevitable but I've got these like frame glasses from brilliant labs I'm not sure if you guys have seen these before but they have like a little teeny tiny camera right here on the front and they have like you probably can't tell on the camera but there's like a little display on the right eye of it where like it'll like scroll a little bit of text across in front of your
eye so you can see text but one thing that I would and this is open source too so anybody can develop with it or build on top of it however they want one thing I'd love to see first of all better form factor these look like they're straight out of Harry Potter but the second thing I'd love to see
is a face remembering app right I wear these I go meet somebody for the first time when I meet somebody like there's a code word if I say nice to meet you or something right yeah snapshot of their face remember their face in the AI then the next time I run into that person a little heads up display
shows in my right eye oh this is sticky chin right like I can see you're getting sticky right like but I feel like you can build that with this this thing here because it's got a little camera and it's got a little heads up display in one of your eyes so you know a little image recognition of people's faces use you know maybe Google's API that you know it's got the image recognition in it you know take pictures of people remember their faces next time you run into them right across the
little heads up display this is this person's name so you never forget anybody's names again I want to see that being made and I feel like with these brilliant labs like open source tech somebody should be able to make that pretty easily I would imagine I'm not a coder but I feel like it wouldn't be too hard I love it I guess only question is like does Meta get their first with the Ray Bands Yeah I'd be fine if Meta did it too I love the Ray Bands
It sounds like Meta's next thing that they're going to do with like the next iteration of Ray Bands and more like augmented reality stuff they were going they were going to do like this giant this like new VR headset that was supposed to compete with the Apple Vision Pro like a really high end version of the quest well they just scrapped that and it sounds like now they're pushing because of how well sales have done on the Meta Ray Bands they're now pushing more into the Ray Bands area
and it sounds like they're going to start doing things like AR and heads up display inside of the Ray Bands instead of making higher end virtual reality devices I mean that's going to be a huge opportunity for some company to build yeah that's killer
Absolutely I've always wanted that where like you could just see who they are like if it's good for your business or not like some kind of context there but you know it gets into like a really weird territory though right it's like a most like like mirror where it's like what's their score
and like is this like a person I should talk to or they're like totally irrelevant they're like not worth it They're like not worth it They're just like a poor now Yeah yeah yeah yeah not important important you know
And can we be honest and say let the real reason why we want that is like every other day we go out and someone says hi and you're like I don't know Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah well I mean it can also save like additional data right like if you're having a conversation but it does kind of get into that creepy area of like how much is it recording and that kind of stuff but it could like remember kids names it can remember birthdays remember you know different stuff like that
¶ Create hallucinated Wikipedia through generative model.
so when you're having a conversation it all just sort of pops up on a little heads up display for you so you can easily remember that stuff but I run into that all the time like I go to I go to like at least one conference a month kind of thing like I go to a lot of conferences
and I don't know how many times I've got to a conference where somebody's like hey great to see you again I'm like yeah you too and I have to look down at their name badge and try to be discreet about it Yeah Do you wear the glasses in public and do people get angry?
I wear the ray bands in public all the time because they just look like normal ray bands Yeah I wore Google Glass for like a month Yeah well I mean more and more devices are popping up like that too right like there's like earbuds coming out that are gonna like record you
and they've got the people just get used to it probably like there's not much you can do about it Yeah depending and all that kind of stuff but yeah I mean some of like I know I know you know you get used to the cell phone when you're out like Yeah yeah Yeah you're gonna get in be the picture probably by accident, right? Yeah I mean literally everybody you see in public has a device that can record your voice, take pictures of you, take videos of you, everybody
I have another one. I'm not going to go spice it yet. I'm going to say that Alright, so this is a general category of products I'm interested in which is like ways of exploring the lateness space of M in L.M. So WebSyn, you know is like an example of that example that where Hallucin, they see internet, and feel really interesting things around that. Thought I was interesting. It was just too further.
There's a company that I recently messed up called O1 Computer, or I adapt this computer and it's kind of like a higher level debon. It can just make out for you. One of the things you can build just by asking to build was a hallucinated Wikipedia. So basically you can start with like anything, and it'll create a Wikipedia article and all the links book. I'm just keep on browsing it and holding it, so you know that I just think like general need, those categories of things are interesting.
Like being able to explore the latent space of a generative model, right? You have an image. I'm like, I want to go over there, right? And this is where things are going, eventually become real time, right? For example, there was a thing I saw yesterday where someone trained at the fusion model on Doom. Yeah, one, yeah. Like it worked, like things get killed, you could fire a gun, and you know, we're gonna go from like rendering pixels just like a loosening entire image, right?
¶ AI art tool generates infinite images from prompts.
On your computers. I think that entire category of things is interesting. I think someone making a generative Wikipedia is also interesting. There's a few companies that are kind of like that and not quite like that, but I kind of like that idea quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, you can do something similar right now with perplexity, right? Like they've got their pages feature where you can basically throw in any topic and it essentially builds like a Wikipedia page, but it's not like hallucinating it.
It's just going and finding the data on the internet for you essentially. Yeah, I think what fascinates me is like more of the mode of interaction, right? Like that still requires you to ask something and this idea of like just being a click or look around to browse inquiry interface is like super interesting. That's what I think Webson is the first thing that I've seen that did this, right? Like just made it a hyperlink, so that you click instead of having to type anything.
I just think there's like a whole area of unexplored product possibilities around this idea of other ways to generate prompts and explore the latent space. Yeah, the doom one's so interesting. It's like it's almost like you're moving through a dream, right? Like it's like dreaming up everything in the world and you're moving through it. It's like that is so amazing. We have nothing like that currently. Well, I mean, some people would argue that's what's happening right now. Right right now.
Like for me right now. Yeah, yeah. The simulation we're in, you mean? Yeah. There's a wall in front of me right now. I think I know it's on the other side of the wall, but I'm not on the other side of the wall, so I don't know. Yeah. Don't say simulation three times. We may get exited out of it. I think it's fine. That was amazing. Yeah, there's an AI art tool. I don't think I'm allowed to say the name of it because I don't think they publicly announce that this is coming yet.
But there's a tool that's essentially an exploration of like a diffusion model where you enter a prompt into it. And when you enter a prompt, it will basically generate like an infinite number of images with that prompt that you can sort of infinitely scroll through. So in real time, it'll just keep on popping up new images generated by that prompt. And then if you click on one of the images, it now uses that image that you just clicked on as an image reference.
And then it starts a whole new page with this is your image reference. And then you can sort of infinitely scroll new images based on this new image reference. And you can sort of get lost in it for hours just clicking on, ooh, I like this image. And the idea being that eventually you can find the absolute perfect ideal image for what you were going for with that prompt by just scrolling and clicking on the ones that are closest to what you're looking for.
And then once you find the one you're looking for, you now know the seed, the prompt, everything you need to know to regenerate that image again and again. I need that. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. And then we do the thing after the show. Yeah, for sure. That's hallucinated Pinterest, right? And I think like in general, like this idea of taking a known product and product interaction and just hallucinating it, whether it's a browser, Wikipedia, Pinterest is amazing.
Yeah, I love the whole class of ideas. Yeah, that's going to be fun. It's also just going to be a new addiction for a lot of people, I think. All right, Nathan. The next one to be, you know, back in the day, code academy was really popular. I don't know if it may be Cilis. I have no idea. But it feels like that was an idea where it was a great idea. It basically was a site that helped you learn how to code, kind of walked you through everything, and really simplified down learned code.
There's always a great idea, but I feel like it never was fully properly executed on. I don't think it reached its full potential of the idea. And it feels like now with AI you could. Like I don't know if you saw that video from a few days ago, like the eight year old girl using cursor to code and make like a little hairy potter website and stuff. It was like, that is so cool. And that girl must be very intelligent.
Because even at A, using cursor is still hard, I think, for an eight year old, it's very hard. It's definitely a very intelligent child. And so it feels like there's something for, you know, more mainstream audience where anyone like, hey, you can actually code now. Like it can actually help you and like kind of walk you through that of making some simple product or simple website and just showing you, you can do it and teaching you. It feels like there's some kind of opportunity there.
And yeah, I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen you. I love it. Yeah, yeah. And it would be like generative, right? So like everybody who uses the program is sort of developing something different. As opposed to like code academy, which code academy would walk you through, you know, everybody's basically building the same thing, right? It's just a set tutorial. I feel like you can have something that's generative where everybody that goes through this program builds something unique, right?
It's something completely different every time. You might even at the end of the program have something that is, you know, launchable, something that you actually put out into the world. And you can have a community aspect too, where you actually share what you built and everyone kind of kind of see. I like it. It'd be kind of cool. I've been trying to, you know, do all kinds of things to get my older daughter is 10 now into coding. So we're on Hofschotch. We did code academy. We have chat, CBT.
I gave her a wix to make a website. And over Christmas, I was traveling with a friend and they have a kid and they decided if he was in Japan, they wanted to make a video game that was across between Gundam and Transformers, called Trans-Dism. So the youth chat, CBT asked, all right, how do we make a game, what are the roles of a game? What is a cross between transformers gonna look like? Dally generated image. They downloaded it.
Yeah, they downloaded Unity. That'll Unity and start working on this game. They not only the government, but they got like, way further under owned than I think any a year old would have without AI.
¶ Creating AI girlfriends through realistic interaction tech.
I think that's great. My fourth idea, I didn't talk about it's third, but just piggy off of what you said, I think this general class of almost like an AI nanny where you have these tools that are kind of passive, but if you can have something that inner Gizboord is like, hey, let's learn about X or what do you want to do, right? And it'll just like interact with you and it'll let you hallucinate with the AI. I think that's also super interesting. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, something like that's a lot better, I think, than you know, setting them down with an iPad or an Nintendo Switch, you're just saying, you're go play Roblox. I think there's like some companies are doing dolls that are all generated and more interactive, but I'm very pro this idea. Like inverting the Chatchee BT interaction pattern, which is having to talk to you, not winning for you to talk to them. I think there is so much on tap potential and just releasing that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I would love to have that for my son and like have it where, okay, you can't use your PC until you've actually like done this. Like you can't like, here's a little project, go do it. Now you now, yeah, you can watch YouTube for 30 minutes or whatever. Yeah, yeah, some sort of locking mechanism where you like the games unlock once you finish your tasks. Yeah. Oh, it's good. Very cool. Any other ideas? We want to throw out there. I want to. So we're out.
Now time. All right, it's actually not that spicy. And it's going to sound stupid, but hear me out. Okay. My girlfriend. But, but and I know there's not new. Okay. That's a yeah. Okay. That's a real. Okay. But you guys cool. So there's character AI and in friend, all these things are like doing AI girlfriends, right? So here, here is a thing that I think is going to print money as someone does this. You sign up for your AI girlfriend, but the interface and all the interactions, look real.
So it's not like character AI where you're like, I'm going to create my ideal wife who, and this is what she's going to look like. And generate some images and personalities. Instead, it looks exactly like tender that you're slipping left and right. And very similar to your idea, the other product where you're finding exact right image. It's that. But for your wife who.
Yeah. Yeah. And like, you're you're you're you're you're selecting a slightly right and and based on the slightly left and so right. It's learning about what your ideal wife who looks like and is like because it's a generated personality. It's a general image generated location, everything. And then once you start right, you match. And then you have to add up conversation with them.
And then in the background, this system will create a generated Instagram profile, trade AI with a trick or what's that account. And then it will actually text you as this person. It will DM you over Instagram as a person. And now you have a virtual girlfriend, but it feels real in every virtual channel that you have. Yeah, yeah. It can eat over time.
¶ AI connecting people through incentives and apps.
You can have a Zoom call. And what happens when you call? Who knows? But like you can you can you can real time generate all the all this stuff and not have it. It's feel like this weird bot thing that you're making and it feels pretty real. Yeah, I feel like all of the technology exists right now to make that happen. It's just combining all the parts. Yeah. Exactly. It's a purely front front. Yeah, yeah. Cause you've got like, friend or net, right?
Where you can upload like some images of a face and it'll make sure that that character stays consistent every time. And you've got the tools that can turn them into videos. And you've got the tools that can do the voice. I feel like it's just a matter of somebody mashing all the tools together to get that thing. Yeah, it's like Instagram, right? You're browsing it's brand and all the track to people are attracted to you. Yeah. That's basically. Oh, I like it.
Yeah, I mean, it does it does bring up some additional questions of like, like, where does that take humanity if like everybody just gets their ideal digital girlfriend because then, you know, reproduction could potentially. I mean, I do think my sense about my mental model of how value is created in that PoEA to say a world. I think humanity's going to adapt like pretty quickly. Like we have infinite adult ratio of all, right? And I think in that world, we are biologically.
We're just evolved to play status games. And I think it's very hard to override biology even with the best of tools. And I think we're just going to value things that are real more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually don't think it's going to be like, as bad as people think, you know, be real like, oh, we have your heads. So it's more than me if you are and looking at your wife who's like, no, if you're doing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there are probably things too that I use AI to actually help connect people to. Like I think that'll probably be a thing. Like probably in the future, the government's be like, oh, shit, this is like a big problem. We need to like have huge incentives for having, for getting married and having kids. Yeah, they'll probably make huge incentives. And then there'll probably AI apps that like help you.
Like here's your personality type and here go chat with this virtual version of this girl who's like a real girl, real person.
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And you're a good match. And then maybe you should actually meet them. I think we'll have stuff like that too. So maybe that'll kind of count a balance all of those. Yeah. Yeah, AI wife is. It could be like a net positive humanity too. Because when you think of like the adult film industry, there's a lot of exploitation, a lot of human trafficking, a lot of that kind of stuff, right? So I mean, maybe it does turn out to be a net positive in that sense.
I mean, you look at adult websites, nobody ever looks at them. Yet somehow porn hubs always in the top 10 of all most visited sites. Oh, weird. So weird how that happens when nobody uses it. It's not a lot of these videos. It's crazy. Well, I think these are all great ideas. And I think anybody listening to this episode, if you go and invent any of these, I think Sikki's gonna invest. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah. I actually. That was the agreement. So that's why he's here.
It's not the priority cap. I just like, I talk founders. I thought founders like maybe you should do it. Like, this is like a much better idea than what you're doing. Yeah. Before we do wrap it up though, is there is anywhere you want people to go check you out? I mean, is X the best place to follow you? LinkedIn, like where should people go after, after hearing about? Not all of my LinkedIn content is ghost written. So probably you won't follow me out, X is dead. And what's your X profile?
I'm Blader, B-L-A-D-E-R. And my company is runway.com, not oneway, ML.com, runway.com. The runway. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're midsize, larger company, and you want, have better view of your finances, we run the finance of the departments, the finance, the finance models of superhuman and able to fusion, actually. An angelist and lambai and superhuman and much other companies like that. So very cool. Very cool. Well, check those out, everybody who's listening in.
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