Special Report: Why MAGA hates Britain

This is a Global Player Original Podcast. I know how they do things in the UK, that's why your country's all fucked up. Why do you think the UK's fucked up? I I think your country is going to shit. The insurrection wasn't big enough. I think it should have been an actual insurrection. Because then more lives would have been split in the club. I don't have a tank yet. How about London? How about

That's taken over with this open border policy. How's that worked out? I thought the Church of England was the official religion. United Kingdom. Why are you slagging Britain of Listras?

We are in Dallas. We are yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n It is a place where conservative and sometimes very extreme ideas are debated. It's the heart of MAGA. And I'm currently watching on the stage Liz Truss. the former British Prime Minister. Talking about the deep state and the rise of Islamism in the UK. Talking about how we are increasingly having to worry about the rise of Sharia law in the UK.

This might seem weird and eccentric, and in many ways, as she has become, it is, but in another way, it is not. Because this is a movement, MAGA in transition. Suddenly uncertain of itself, thinking perhaps about a post Trump future as his popularity. declines, they are increasingly uncertain of what they are for. But as we've discovered at this conference, they are absolutely certain about what they are not and what they dislike, what they politically abhor. And the answer to that

is us, the UK. This is our special report which shows MAGA at a crossroads and how Britain Is living in their head rent free. The news agent. We've allowed Islamism to grow in our country and that is the fundamental problem. And now I have called for a Trump-style revolution. That is what we need in Britain. The moment they try to put gay boy. is a liar. Pornographics show up in my school because I told people That's not true. If you got vaccinated, you're already gay to start with. That's

CPAC has been the vital organ of American conservatism for decades. Trump has spoken at everyone for the last 10 decades. We had a Republican Party that was ruled by freaks, neocons, globalists, open border zealots, and fools. We love you. You're saying that about I hate to say it. Maybe I'll apologize. I hate to I hate to admit it, but that's really it's an honor that you would But we have a very crooked media.

We had a crooked can today too, by the way. But we have We have a very we have a very very crooked medium Without it, the money it raises, the ideas it consecrates, there is Trump. Last year was its zenith basking in victory. Elon Musk on stage with a chainsaw and every single person in the room knew exactly what it was. The chainsaw for bureaucracy. Chainsaw! But that was last year. This year, Dallas feels like the morning after a party no one quite remembers.

It's nervier, less certain. Trump hasn't even confirmed his attendance. Iran looms large. It is a movement, however gingly, just in the foothills of thinking about what a post-Trump world might look like. It's about a greater cause. And We all have to remember that. Because the left, the hard left, the Marxists, the statists, the communists.

They love it when we're all fighting, when we're at each other's throats, when we're calling each other names. We cannot divide from within. We have to stay united to win these midterm elections. And you know who the enemy is? It's the communists. It's a socialist, it's the Marxist. It's Mondami. It's AOC. It's Chuck Schubert. So let's get in line. Let's fight together. Let's stay united.

They want us divided. We have to stay united as a movement. It's very interesting this the message coming from the very first two speakers. To stay united, not to turn on themselves, not to say negative things in the media. Which tells you something about where this movement is intellectual and politics. I'm not gonna start a war, I'm gonna stop wars. No more wars, no more disruptions.

We will have prosperity and we will have peace. Under Trump we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, and we will have prosperity and peace for all. I am the candidate of peace. I am peace.

Trump's politics is a mosaic that never stops shifting. But Iraq was always the central tile on the board. Its bloody futility reanimated an isolationism the Republicans had almost forgotten they had. And those instincts are now twitching at the man. A ground invasion of Iran It will mean higher gas prices, higher fuel And I'm not sure we wouldn't have to do that.

Killing more terrorists than we would create. Do you think that he's I mean America first, I mean did you imagine that that would mean a war with Iran? No. Not at all. I was actually hoping it wouldn't ever come to that, and I was hoping we would uh withdraw a lot of the support.

for the Ukraine war uh and many other things so that we haven't really, you know, we have a lot of things to fix here at home. You know, we have a lot of illegal immigrants to get out. The the new form of colonization that's been happening is uh flooding our country with with uh illegals and our communities.

So my name is Doctor Rad Joseph and I'm a combat veteran, Purple Hotel Recipient and uh a proudly candidate for District Twenty in Florida. You're a veteran? Um Toronto Trump's big, big signature ideas, right, was to not get involved in lots of new foreign wars. Yet here we are

with America in its biggest foreign war in the Middle East for 20 years. What do you think of that? Has he let his own voters down? It's not about letting people uh vote us down because uh the system is better than the president. Um, the president came in as a manager, but the system has been there. The system is inherent from every president that came. What left for them to inhibit it is bigger than them, than their policies. Um

America got a continuous policy where the no matter who's in power, whether it's uh left or right, whether it's the uh Democrats or Republicans, there's always the system. Yeah, the deep state. So they are greater. They are the ones that control the economy. It's the military industrial complex. As a veteran myself, I fought two wars. I know what wars are is like. And uh when it comes to that, President Schwab is not the only one-man show because he had advisors.

Now we need to questions who provide intelligence and information to intelligence. So you think in a sense that President Trump has been captured, at least on this, by the deep states? Basically being been misled also. Manipulated. Yes. أعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد أنت تعتقد There's no just there's no way you can provoke the war. They turn Iran into a good guy, into a defensive uh posture. Now if you attack first

You have the legitimate right to defend yourself. So because while we in the war, Israel attacking Lebanon. Israel keep going other war. Do you blame Israel? Of course. We're doing this war for Israel. Hundred percent is fizier.

Do you think America should rethink its relationship with Israel? We should rethink relationship with every country because one thing we should do, there's no country that have this uh identical policy. No countries that have foreign w interests when it comes to the interests when it comes to combat. I'm interested what you said about Israel. Like back in the day the Republican Party, I mean you couldn't put a cigarette paper between

Israel and the Republican Party. Do you think the Republicans are rethinking or MAGA is rethinking that relationship with Israel? I don't speak for MAGA, but I speak for a majority of Republicans. We must because we're in debt thirty nine trillion dollars of debt. We already spent over $15 billion in the war and let alone we lost 32 planes and aircrafts. That's over$1.4 trillion we lost. So what cause?

And then we have Americans, the homelessness, we got drugs problem in the United States, homelessness, and also people can't even health care. So we can spend a home.

President listens to you. Trust me, they they they they will take this clip and show it to the president tonight. So I want to make sure that you've thought this through. How many here, just at the 65%, that said finish where we started? Does that include going to Tehran, removing this regime, and putting in a friendly government? No! You were heckling just now. I wasn't heckling. Well, no, no, no, I saw I saw a bunch of Iranian folk here.

Looking very, very happy today. And you know what I'd say to them is strap on a rifle and head home. They can make Iran great again. They should do that. They can't get us in. trouble. Same goes for, you know other Middle Eastern powerful countries. Talking about Israel. Yeah. What do you think about Israel? It's a wonderful place, great people, God bless'em.

But uh you know, we have to pay attention to American problems. And you know, that's it's it's it's not Israel first, it's America first. So do you think Trump screwed up? No, I don't know. I don't I I I love the old man. I have huge faith in him and um I'm I'm counting on him to pull it out. One way or the other. What if he sends troops in?

I don't want him to do that. Every time we do that, we mess it up. We oversimplify. You know, it's just it's it's this stupid answer. And if he does it, will you keep supporting him or will that be a break point? I love the old man. I mean he you know, the hell that he has gone through, the trial in New York. I mean I you know now this guy up here, he actually went to prison. Steve Bannon's sake. Steve Bannon

Went to prison. That dude is a stud. Trump is a stud. So yeah, those are those are those guys have enormo I just have huge respect for them. It is telling, even though skeptical about Iran are completely To absolve Who led them there? by the deep states, by Israel, by his advisors. Anyone else? But the idea that any of this finally sets. And this is the thing that finally breaks it is a The most popular item of clothing at this year's CPAC It's the Persian flag. The orange Pied Piper play.

Mikey Smith from the Mirror. Um this is my first C pack, this is your third. Yes. In so you can compare in terms of sort of size, mood, how'd you compare it to say last year? I mean this is certainly bigger. It's in uh it it was it's been in uh Washington DC the last couple of times. of times I've been and this is They were booing DC earlier. They were booing DC.

Um I mean in Texas everything is bigger. Uh so uh i i it it it's certainly bigger as far as the number of people is concerned, I think it's about the same. But um and the energy, the feeling?'Class year was so triumphant wasn't it? You had musk with the chainsaw, all that sort of stuff. Mae'n ymwneud â phobl. Mae'n ymwneud â phobl. Mae'n ymwneud â phobl. Mae'n ymwneud â phobl yn ymwneud â phobl. Mae'n ymwneud â phobl yn ymwneud â phobl.

First time in ten years he's uh he's not put in an appearance. But they're you know, they're being being very tight lipped about the schedule for the rest of the thing. So you know he may turn up unannounced in the in in in the last day and that would give a lift I think. And but I suppose in a way

Like it might be slightly more or so right about the sort of tenor of where Magarism is at, right? I mean it's an uncertain, way more. I mean last year, moment of the triumph, kind of post-election, you know, they seem utterly, he's king of all these surveys. Year later he's so unpopular and he's

basically also doing something he said he would never do which is get the US involved in a potentially intractive war intractable war in the Middle East. Although weirdly if you look at the polling, uh MAGA people who identify as MAGA support the war by 70%. Iranian flags everywhere here.

I I've gotta say the the two constituencies here uh tend to be like the old old guard Reaganites who've been coming since it started back in the eighties and the younger, sort of noisier MAGA types. And and the MAGA types

aren't actually that that opposed to the Iran war themselves and the Reaganites love it, uh because this is their thing. So is that weirdly enough it's actually uniting the sort of different pillars of the Republican Party. Weirdly so and it's completely at odds with the rest of the country which which

We're not the only Brits here, of course. Liz Truss is here. I think you saw a fringe last time. Just explain, it's kind of like people listening and watching might find it weird that Truss I mean everything about her is a bit weird, but that she should be here. What was she what's she been saying?

It is definitely weird that she's here. It's her third year in a row as well. I I I I've seen her the last two photos. So she ain't got much else on. Well there is that. She was at the international uh conference yesterday uh uh accusing Keir Starmer of and I'm quoting uh batting for the other team uh in the Iran conflict. Uh she said uh that um uh Labour didn't uh that Stama didn't want to get involved in Iran because he was afraid of losing his Islamist base. Uh she's on a panel

Later on today that the title of which is Europeistan. So you kind of get the tone of Europe. Europeistan. Can you That's our former British Prime Minister suggesting that basically Britain has fallen to Islamism. That's yeah, that's the vibe, yeah. allowed Islamism to grow in our country. No problem. That is what we need. That is what we need in Europe because

Most people in our country don't agree with all this stuff. They want to have a family, they want to buy a house, they want a nice car, they want to go on holiday, they want to live in a Christian country. They don't want their country taken over. Ms. Truss, hi. Hi, have you got two minutes for the news agents? Why not? We want to ask you why you've been spreading lies about Britain. Why are you lying about Britain? Why are you slagging Britain off Listras? You say you love ideas, Liz Truss.

Gentlemen, if she doesn't want to speak with you, please join us. Well, apparently Apparently Liz Truss doesn't want to talk to us. Despite the fact that she's been going around the last um couple of days, including at this conference, saying that um Islamism uh is backing the government for which there is no evidence and she says that there is Sharia law in Britain and that's a problem.

um also a complete lie. Uh that famous ideological warrior once again deciding that she doesn't want to talk to anyone who disagrees with her. But there we go.

But Truss's inclusion here is no freak accident, unlike her premiership. Rather, it is a reflection of something deeper. The UK-US relationship. Now they are looking at us through a little bit of a little bit of a little bit Darkly and they don't like what they see. What is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon? And we were like, maybe it's Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts, and then we sort of finally decided maybe it's actually the UK since

Labor just took over. As as you guys have birthed free speech the world, you now guys are becoming a totalitarian country. But you have Sharia courts. You don't have Sharia courts. You don't want Sharia courts. You have Sharia courts adjudicating law. So it's very simple. Immigration, very importantly, immigration and energy. And you bring it back. Otherwise you're not going to bring it back.

Okay. One of the remarkable things about the second Trump presidency is not how much we've been interested in him and MAGA, but how much he and they have been interested in us, a shared UK, US, radical right. information ecosystem. In uh in Britain they're uh I kid you not, it's how can this be real? They are releasing convicted pedophiles from prison in order to put people in prison who uh for Facebook posts.

But this is more than news obsessives being, well, obsessive. For Trump's America, Britain has become a morality tale. They used to want to make America great. Now they just want to make sure it doesn't become a great.

Wonder what you thought um he's been insulting uh our country quite a lot recently. He's been saying our Prime Minister is a bit of a coward and everything like From the UK. Just wondered if you'd a any thoughts on what's going on in Europe at the moment.

you're being overtaken by the Muslim Brotherhood over in the UK. That's very apparent. We we see that, you know. Or is is the news telling the truth on that? Because that's what they're saying that the Muslims are taking over in the UK. Does that bother y'all? Does that bother you? Like Well to be honest, I mean that I mean I I live there and I haven't really noticed the Muslims taking over to be honest. But you think they are? I noticed it. You noticed it? Yes, in London, I did.

What did you notice? That there was a lot of Muslims there. They uh that all the hotels that we went into, the stores we went into, they were they were all operated by Sharia Laha, you know, in that area. The news has reported that, but they're asking

I know they're asking for it though. You know, they're po they're the population is growing and don't you think that could be the next infiltration that they're you know You think it's the infiltration. With but oh definitely because I think they want to take over the Western world. We know that. Madam, you notice the all the Muslims in Britain, I mean, a lot of them are

You know, there'll be British Muslims, right? And there's a lot of Muslim Americans, it's not a problem, is it? I mean they're brit as British as I am and they're as American as you are. They just have different beliefs than we do. Yes. Well even even Muslim Americans I don't think so, but if they're Muslim, they have to be a good thing. That's okay. So you've just come up to me and said that you support the idea of Rupert Lowe for Prime Minister. MP for Great Yarmouth. Absolutely. Why?

British patriot. I think he's got the best interests of the British people at heart, and I think he's a great qualification for the right. Kim Starmer will be a patriot as well. Uh not as much so as Rupert Lowe. He is? He just disagrees with Rupert Lowe about Patriot about what Patrick is. I didn't say he wasn't, I said not as much so as Rupert Lowe.

Why wh why why is Rupert Lowe more patriotic than Keir Stam? I'm a I'm a young man. I don't know if you didn't know, but the economy is not great for young men right now. Um I think a politician that has a strong view of an economic foundation for the country. Well it's very important. Not if you're an industrial legislature. Not if you're a young Muslim man. Not if you're a young Muslim British man.

good employment for young men. Not if you're a young Muslim British man. Wouldn't well help you very much Rupert Lowe's idea of a new future for Britain, would it? I'm confused on what a young British man is. A young Muslim British man. Yeah, I'm confused on what that is.

man who is British who is also Muslim. I thought the Church of England was the official religion of the United Kingdom. Yes. Great Britain. But that's why but there are Catholics as well and they're British and then there are Sikhs and they're British and there are Hindus and they're British and then there are Muslims who are British.

Okay. Just because we've got a established church doesn't mean we don't allow other churches. Okay. Simple enough, isn't it? It is. Yeah, yeah. It makes sense. Keir Starmer, why do you think he's crazy? Well Well and it's kinda frustrating because the the the continent and the UK would be speaking German if it wasn't for us. So we're we're trying to el eliminate a nuclear

future for Iran, that's something that everyone should be concerned about. I mean he was threatening to invade Greenland, uh which is European territory the other week, so I suppose maybe maybe we were a bit pissed off with him as well. Uh I don't think Greenland is and nuclear war are exactly on the same stage. Yeah, but I mean I suppose if you're threatening to invade an allies

sovereign territory. It's not ideal. I don't think he threatened to invade. He wants it. Or he said he wanted it. Whether that's true or not, time will tell. So you think that um Do you think America should pull out of NATO? Yes. You do? Yes. And the UN. And would you vote for would you be looking for a future Republican candidate to commit to that, to pulling out of NATO? Would that

attract your votes. It wouldn't be a deciding factor but it would be a good good thing to for them to have on their platform. If they actually follow through with it. And you think in terms of um our country going to hell, that's interesting, a lot of people here do seem to think that that Britain's got a Europe as well is going to hell. Yeah. Do you agree? Taken over by the Muslims. Yes. By the Muslims. Yeah.

And all the green policies that do not do anything to the country for to benefit the country. Well I mean I'm from there and I can tell you the Muslims haven't taken over. Really? No. In London they're everywhere. Well we've got a lot of Muslims. Muslims who live in London but there are lots of of every type. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Well I can't I for one can't wait to get back to the Caliphate. Oh, this only such relates to us? A police dossier, it's the British who murder our presidents. What do you mean by that? Well, if you open it up and I I welcome you to read it, we go through and for example in 2018, the House of Lords wrote a report, public report.

saying we can survive one term of Donald Trump but not two. And that uh is is detailed in here. But we the Privy Council, as I understand it, now you can correct me if I'm wrong. They have independent independence.

We'd like to control them, they've got loads of oil and gas, but unfortunately it's theirs. What about Mark Kearney, former head of the Bank of England? Former Governor of the Bank of England, yeah. You know, um World Economic Forum. Right. Um the green agenda that goes back to 2016-17. But but I mean it was the Confederacy that killed Lincoln and that that was an American thing.

He was, but he was also tied into networks that were created by British intelligence. That's what I'm trying to do. British intelligence didn't exist then in the eighteen sixties. Oh really? You don't know about Lord Palmerston? Yeah, he was the Prime Minister. You don't know about the networks?

that he was involved in or Jeremy Bentham? Well he was MI5, MI6, British intelligence, they didn't exist. That may be more modern names, but the British the empires have always used intelligence to run their agenda. Empire. Yeah. But at the time in the Civil War, I don't want to get in the weeds, but at the time in the Civil War, I mean, British people were were boycotting southern cotton.

We were on Lincoln's side, so why would we have killed him? No, I didn't say the people did. Right, just the intelligence networks. I'm saying the networks. Do you think actually I'm just interested'cause something we've noticed being British here is that

A lot of people here they think Britain's a bad place at the moment. That Britain's not going well. Hum how much is gasoline per gallon? Oh yeah, I mean that's not going well 100%, although Trump hasn't helped with his war, but never mind. Um How about Longdanistan? How about all the Islamisation that's taken over?

with this open border policy, how's that worked out? Well I I live in London and it's um it's not London that stand, it's uh a place where actually people get on pretty well. It's a brilliant city to live in, fantastic city. Well that's nice, but are are you talking about the entire city? Well obviously

It's a complicated place, but Muslims aren't in charge if that's what you mean. Okay, well that's but I'm interested, why do you think that is? Why do you think that is true?'Cause a lot of people do think that here. I mean, you know, it is a common view. Wha why? Because we see the the uh open border policy

Which is a policy to destroy the sovereignty of any nation. We don't have an open border policy. I mean there is illegal immigration just like there has been here and there is here, but it's not an open border. We're gonna just out Can I get an amen? We're just gonna outbreed the left. You ever met a lib? They're hideous. Nobody wants to have sex with them. The pink hair, the yellow. Plus they're cutting their

It makes it very easy for us. So you might be listening or watching this and um thinking, how can it be after all this time, after all this political attrition, after all the objective political damage that Trump has had, how can it be that so many people seem to be

believe what they believe or they believe in these assertions which continue to be just either factually wrong if not outright bizarre. Well this is your answer. Where I am standing right now is the answer. In the media pen of CPAC and it's not you know CNN and MBC

and the rest of them or the equivalent so you get at a British Party conference, what you have is stand after stand after stand after stand of alternative news sources, news outlets, whether it is podcasts or TV channels or online TV channels. Whatever it happens to be, organizations and outlets that literally would not have existed 10 years ago. That are all in some way umbilically connected really to Donald Trump and the MAGA movement itself. And there is absolutely zero incentive.

Just commercially speak. Zero incentive commercially for any of these people to ever braid with Trump. Because they know that is not what their listeners or their viewers or their readers or their subscribers want. They want all Trump all the time.

Trump glorification all of the time and they want to bash the libs. And that is going to endure and sustain right up to the 20-28 race. That is how Trump's grip and power is way stronger now than it was certainly 10 years ago when he first came on the scene or even five years ago he has incubated a whole separate not just he's taken over the Republican political party sure but what he's also done is create an entirely separate political information universe and that is not gonna disappear.

How is it being out of prison? I mean it feels great. It's uh it's good to be out here, especially here in CPAC with my fellow conservatives, but being out of prison is really good. I recommend it. I mean just for people who don't know, President Trump Uh the alleged insurrectionists, yes. Did insurrection not take place? No, insurrection didn't take place, sir. Did it? No. What happened then? Uh in order for insurrection

to take place then you would need like an armed insurrection to attempt to overthrow the United States government. And that's not what was happening. Even if you were to give it the the credence that the prosecutors gave it, because they didn't even call it an insurrection. uh that they tried to stop the certification of the election. Do you think you did anything wrong that day?

Absolutely not. You said on the day of the capital attack you told your followers do what must be done. What did you mean by that? I put that on parlour as a celebration. Yes. I was proud of what happened that day, of course. Afterwards in internal chats you said, make no mistake, we did this.

That didn't come from that didn't come from internal chats. That came from public postings. Okay, well either way, make no mistake, we did this. What did you mean by it? So it's funny that I have Matt Gates sitting behind me. Matt Gates Posted that Antifa were the ones that did it, and I said no, no, no. So it was Antifa did Janse, yes.

That's what he has to believe in that day. I don't believe that. No. I think Antifa was there, of course. But they weren't I mean they weren't trying to prevent the certification, were they? They weren't they weren't there. Oh actually a couple of them were trying to prevent the certification. It's maybe Trump's boys trying to do that.

Uh I would say that there's some people that didn't want the certification of the election to happen. Of course. Mainly Trump's people though, wasn't it? In fact almost exclusively. I think there w yes, I think mostly it was Trump's people and that's what I was saying. It wasn't Antifa. So yes, I put that on my social media. Celebration doesn't uh I don't know how they oh I know how they do things in the UK, that's why your country's all fucked up.

Why do you think the UK's fucked up? Uh I think your country is going to shit. You have a horrible immigration problem. You have a horrible mass violence problem that's happening over there. Like what? And uh UK doesn't belong to the British people anymore. You've you've allowed Allowed you've allowed mass immigration to completely screw up your country. I was in London three months ago and almost got mugged three times going to my car.

city in the country for crime that doesn't happen to me. Weird because I'm I'm happy that I do not live in your country. Well it's weird because I live in Britain and I've done all my life. You live in London London. Never happened to me, yeah. You live in London? Yeah. And that doesn't happen to you? Never, not once. Okay, well, as a person that's only been there a couple times.

And you were multi multiple times or I was attempted to people were attempting to take my wallet, yes, multiple times while I'm not sure. Uh you got people that look like zombies sitting there infested in the drug infestation is is Have you been down have you been to downtown San Francisco recently?

Oh yeah, look, I look, I said it's bad. I said there is American cities, but they're not as bad as London. But you say like, I mean, you know, Britain's had this m immigration problem out of control. I mean just remind me.

how most Americans came to be in America? Uh your country decided to kick us out and then we kicked your ass. Yeah, absolutely. Back to back, actually twice. We kicked your ass twice. Well vacing twelve was a bit of a draw, but let's not like, you know, let's not get bogged down by that. The point is you got your ass But the point is And then we saved you again during World War One and Two. Thanks for that. Yeah, no problem. Um But I just wonder how you think America like

Most of the people in this room, like, how do they all get here? Well uh well let me tell you, look, I'm not saying that illegal immigration is good, right? Uh getting over here legally is great, but you guys are just allowing mass migration. And one of the reasons why we Donald Trump

We were sick of the immigration problem, which you guys have completely allowed uh to happen over there. But you g but you guys allowed mass migration to happen and that's why I didn't mismigration absolutely. No, throughout the whole two hundred and fifty year history of America and that's why

Donald Trump is here'cause of course his father or brand his grandfather I should say was German and his mother was Scottish. Mm-hmm. And um So if it wasn't for mass migration your great hero wouldn't be here. That's why you have such a problem. is because you confuse the two. But millions and millions far more people arrived in America in the nineteen.

You allow them to fucking uh put their balls on the fucking on the ground and piss on your trees and do public prayer and you allow that to happen. But Muslims haven't taken over the country. Your country? Of course it is. Like uh did you Did you just tell me that's the first one? What's your evidence for that? What's your evidence for that? Have you walked down the streets of London before? I have too. Every day. I have'cause I live there. I have two.

They're prayer they're fucking they're they're they're praying on the fucking ground, they're praying in groups, they're conquering I thought you like religion. I don't like Muslims at all. No well clearly No I don't I I Why you don't like any Muslim? No, I don't. I don't. I don't know. And what have they done to Islam's Islam's entire existence is based on conquest. And they've conquered your country all of Europe. Yeah, look, there's some cities, yes, because of my migration.

Destiny now. How are the Native American Indians doing? Uh well they got conquered by the thank you. So your civilization is also based on conquer. So nobody has a right to exist uh unless you can keep it. And you guys unfortunately, I feel so horrible for you. I was actually with my friend Tommy Robinson

the other day I had a interview with him. Uh and he he's he's he has the same sentiment that I do. Does it not undermine your case when you say you don't like any Muslims? Like none. I mean that's just that's just deeply bigoted, isn't it? It's deeply bigoted If you wanna call me bigoted, that's fine. Islamophobic, yes. Uh you're happy to own that I own it, yes. I own happy to own your prejudice. I am happy to own that, yes. Yeah. Uh they're violent, vile religion. All of them.

The the billion or so there are of them in the world. They're all the little kids and the the old nanas and uh they're all violent. I I if if they had their own if the why isn't why isn't like Dubai or the UAE taking any anybody from Gaza, their own people. And the truth is it's because of that religious extremism that they have. You don't think you might be the extremist by any chance? Absolutely not. Absolutely. Ontario isn't alone. Militia. The Pardon January

What's your name's then? What's your name's though? Brandon Fellows. Brandon Fellows. Oh well well welcome aboard. Um we'll have you back. Um you're wearing an ICE immigration. Are are you an ICE officer or are you just doing it outside of the I voluntarily deport them. I just catch them. If I think that they're illegal, I catch them and I bring'em bring'em wherever I feel like You catch them. Yeah, yeah yeah. झाल झाल झाल झाल

Yeah, like yeah, like look I got my stockade here, medieval stockade, you put them in that, they got the little cuffs. So Well you s you you don't seriously put people in this. Yeah, I'll put anybody in this. Look I got a super secure lock, it's ready to go. Yeah, looks like it looks like you find them.

Looks like a chopp depot, go get'em. Looks like a chopping board, mate. Well it might be, but listen, I'm my building scales are getting tougher and tappanard. This one's from one that escaped when I caught him. I I should have locked his car, but

I didn't so you're not playing a bit of a role, are you by any chance? No, no, no, no. They're gonna have to look into me. So um you said that we were talking to uh Mr. Torreo there, you were just basically saying you don't like Muslims. We were in jail together. You were in jail together, same prison. Yeah, I was like, twelve times, yeah.

Supreme Supreme Are you not ashamed to have been there that day? No, not at all. I I what what I think people should be ashamed about is still running for the narrative. that it wasn't a giant setup. They lied for years under oath that there weren't a whole bunch of FBI agents and they why'd they lie about that?

So so the whole world saw something that wasn't there. Well, what I'm asking you and many other people is why did they continuously get caught in lies about that day? Why can't if it was so bad, why can't they stick to the truth? We didn't all go in there. And lots of people were well were welcomed in it.

Well what I'm asking you is why would they do that? I think it was all a liberal plot. What I'm asking you is why would they do that? Well I don't think they did that. Well then you need to educate yourself because they did. William Pope. J6 William Pope. J6, was it all a liberal plot? Not all of it, it would but it was set up like that. They were there to rile people

up and if you look into Williams Pope's case you'll find yourself very, very unpleasantly surprised with your narrative. And don't you think that if Trump hadn't lied about the election, none of that would have happened. So it's ultimately the fact you ended up in prison was basically his fault. I'll tell you, you know what everybody argues about this court case, that court case, you know what the

What the best evidence in my view is for the Stone election? Hunter Biden laptop cover-up. Again, another government cover up. They said that that wasn't his laptop. And when it came out that it was, they said if people knew that it was his laptop, it would have caused the independents and the Democrats enough to change the vote over, even if you believe there was no election fraud. That in itself is election interference, meaning we had a right.

We didn't shoot any police that day and we could have, and in in my view, my very radical view, I think we would have saved a lot of lives if we had a real insurrection that day. I don't think Ukraine would have happened. I don't think the Afghanistan debacle would have been a good one.

Would have been as bad. Well right, the insurrection wasn't big enough. I think it should have been an actual insurrection, because then more lives would have been saved. Well meantime, why don't you take the tanks and the grenades and the whole lot and full of paper? I don't have a tank yet. Well, maybe in the future I'll get one. Yeah, you know the worst thing is Matt, I think you might

You might be right. Um, nice to meet you. Yeah, enjoy enjoy England. We will. But there was something else running underneath all of this. Shortly after our encounter, that January 6th defendant came back to find me. You're doing a bit, he said. I'm doing a bit, we both know what we're doing. Maybe. But that is too easy an escape route. Because the performance and the belief are not mutually exclusive. They never have been with this movement. What is undeniable is the

The infrastructure that has grown up around it. There is a MAGA information universe. There is also a MAGA commercial universe. Influencers, journalists, Political figures from Bannon all the way down to trust who make their living off this movement's survival and therefore need it to survive. That has its own momentum. It is one of the reasons this movement, unlike almost every

Every presidential movement before it may not die with its maker. Too many people need the grift to endure the real attention economy. From a range of trusted voices And award winning journalists. Good morning, I'm Nick Ferrari. It's time to get to your course. The latest news and hear every side of the story. That I find to be very reasonable, very solid. So we have a very serious chance of making it up. The day on which almost all of the world recognized that Donald Trump is a deranged liar.

Earth happens next. The fallout of the Iran War. Follow it live on LBC. the LBC app. The news agents. Arrest and deport. Yes. I'm gonna make that my tramp stamp. Ha ha ha ha. Attention economies need enemies, real or imagined. The machine doesn't much care. And I cannot stress enough to you how Britain, our country, has become one of theirs. I'm very struck being here today. There are lots of people like yourself. They're

very very interested in Islamism and Sharia. Do you think that the job of MAGA now is it to combat Islamism? Is is is that what you think the purpose of the movement is now? I don't think just job of MAGA, it's the job of the American people because it's violent.

Our constitution. Our constitution gives us the rights and it gives us the laws under which we operate. Sharia law wants to replace our constitution. How many Islamists do you think there are in the United States? Too many. These people that are going to be able to do that.

Are not people that have done violence. It's being interpreted as they're upsetting another segment of society, which always happens to be the Muslim side. I'm really surprised to hear you talking like this coming from England. Well, it might be because I mean I There are there are people who are concerned. Um I'm not saying that there won't be problems here and there, but what I am saying is has it occurred to you that maybe maybe that

that these problems have been exaggerated. Well, you know that's your opinion. No, it's something important to you. I don't think they've been exaggerated. I think they've been suppressed. And I don't think the people have a free voice in England. If they can take over Texas, they can take over the whole country. They've already taken over New York City. They're cowtown to Mondami. They're doing prayer rocks in the in the in the fire department with the

But they got a sacred plaque up there with a what three hundred and twenty-three barber that gave their life on nine eleven. They got a damn prayer rug right in front of them all over. And the elites in New York City are cowtown to them. So just to recap, what we've just been hearing. At this whatever this is. Um we've seen New York fall, we've seen Canada fall, there are many ways to conju conduct jihad, we need to get Sharia out of the Constitution, we've seen

London, Paris, all to the Muslims and Islamic law. We need to defend the constitution against Sharia law. We need a patriot economy to protect us against Islamification of the United States. On and on and on it goes. I said before that they don't talk about their achievements. That is true. Instead, they are talking about a an invocation of an enemy within. Time after time after time after time. And I don't say that.

slightly because I don't really like these comparisons especially. But the way that this movement talks about Muslims is very similar to how Nazis and the far right in the nineteen thirties spoke about Jews, about that enemy within. About threat from within from that and how it must be stopped at all costs. That is just an objective fact. And if you're wondering how it can be that this movement which has fought against foreign wars and held Trump up as its talent.

Against that for all those years can reconcile themselves, despite the fact there's obviously concern about it here, nonetheless can reconcile themselves to the idea of the Iraq War, it's because the two things are connected. This they see so much as a war against against any particular country, but as a war against that civilizational struggle, against Islamism. They constantly talk not about Iran and stopping Iran from getting the nuclear bomb, but Islamists getting the nuclear bomb.

And that is how the two things cohere and is how those two twin ideas can sit entirely comfortably in these people's heads. The news agents. That's Osalam.

There's a thing that a lot of people, particularly liberals, particularly Europeans, sprits, don't understand about MAGA. Or maybe sometimes don't want to understand because they don't want to listen. and they instantly want to think the worst of it, which is that there have been moments

And certainly I think actually it has been a pretty fundamental characteristic of the MAGA movement that it's actually been quite an optimistic movement. There's been a lot of optimism to it. I know that might sound weird, yes it's clearly got a darkness to it. You know, Trump talked about American carnage in twenty seventeen. But it was, you could say it had a sort of optimistic end point. It was, if we have the courage to do it,

And to listen to Trump, we will make America great again. And yeah, there were dark racial ideas sometimes underpinning that and there was there was always an underbelly. But now the darkness has taken over the line. And if you think back to To where we were a year ago. After the election, I was in Washington, DC for the inauguration, and all of the talk, all of the talk was this astonishing multiracial, working class coalition that Trump had put together, younger voters, Latino voters.

Black voters and this was gonna remake American politics. And I think MAGA and Trump did have an astonishing opportunity to just to do just that and actually bring about a long-term realignment like FDR did or like Reagan did. My feeling now is that is slipping Away. It is slipping away because this movement is giving into its worst instincts and its most basic reflexes. This is no longer a movement defined by what America might be. It is defined solely by what it is.

become the country that looked away. It used to be that America's drift from Britain was about money, about That's no longer the case. Now CPAC, I was told repeatedly that we are different civilizations now, that we in Europe have moved away. Whoever moved, and someone has, I couldn't help but think, leaving Dallas, that they might be right.

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