The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker•www.thenewevangelicals.com

The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.

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17. I'd Rather Be an Atheist than a Calvinist with Tripp Fuller

On this episode I interview theologian, author and mega nerd (his words) Tripp Fuller. Tripp and I talk about the 4 gospels and how they don’t all agree on the same facts and how that’s ok. We talk about finding the divine in both inside and outside the Christian faith and at the end, Tripp picks my brain on The New Evangelicals and why I I started it. Tripp’s newest book is called Divine Self-Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology Studies in Open and Relational Theology and...

Jun 14, 2021•2 hr

16. A Dialogue with Anti-Mask Pastor Samuel Deuth of Awaken Church

This is a new series that I will be doing throughout the New Evangelicals Podcast. I believe it is essential to dialogue with the other side of the Chrsitian spectrum, to ask questons and to hear what they have to say. On this episode I interview Samuel Deuth who is a Pastor at Awaken Church in California. Samuel believes that Christians should resist tyranny and oppression by resisting mask wearing both and inside and outside buildings. Samuel’s Church has hosted Charlie Kirk and will be hostin...

Jun 07, 2021•1 hr 11 min

15. Hijacked by Fundamentalism, Christian Humanism and a Better Path Forward with David Gushee.

I interviewed the father of deconstructing (my title not his) Dr. David Gushee and let me tell you friends, it did not disappoint. David is well known in academic circles for writing several textbooks that are still widely used in colleges today including the book Kingdom Ethics. However, over time, David found himself more at odds with the fundamentalist take over the evangelicalism and when he wrote his LGBTQ affirming book, changing our minds, he was promptly kicked out. Since then David has ...

May 31, 2021•1 hr 5 min

14. Did God Really Create the World in Six Literal Days?Were Adam and Eve the First Two Humans on Earth? And How Do We Interpret the Bible on its Terms with Dr. John Walton

On this episode I sat down with the legendary John Walton who is an expert in the Old Testament and who has written over 30 books about his work. John and I dig deep into Genesis 1, talk about Adam and Eve and John offers incredible insight on major narratives in the Bible that our western eyes often miss. John’s Books Follow Tim on Instagram // @thenewevangelicals Check Out the New Evangelicals Merch The New Evangelicals is completely crowd funded. You can help out our work here Join Our Facebo...

May 24, 2021•57 min

BONUS EPISODE: I Just Want Real Friends. Featuring Every Podcast Host You Know

On this episode Joey from the Dismantle Podcast asked several podcast hosts in his network to join him for a mega 90 day fiancé TELL ALL style episode. So that's what we did. We talk about our Church experience, losing friends and how we've found new friends through this deconstruction network. Follow Tim on Instagram // @thenewevangelicals Check Out the New Merch If you’d like to donate you can do it here. Thank you for your generosity. If you like this episode don't forget to give us a rating ...

May 20, 2021•46 min

13. My Child Just Came Out. Now What? How Love Makes Room with Staci Frenes

I sat down with Staci Frenes author of Love Makes Room which documents Staci’s journey of moving from a non-affirming to an affirming position when her daughter came out. Staci and I talk about the painful journey of losing friends in the Evangelical Church over this decision and how she and her daughter have found healing on the other side along with understanding that God’s love is bigger and wider than what we are sometimes lead to believe. Staci’s Website Order Love Makes Room Follow Staci o...

May 17, 2021•1 hr 1 min

12. Women Rising and Taking Down the Patriarchy with Meghan Tschanz

On this episode Meghan Tschanz, author of Women Rising, joins me to talk about her journey growing up in a conservative, patriarchal church environment and having her world rocked as she traveled the globe with the mission’s organization the world race. Meghan’s story is powerful, heartbreaking and hopeful. Meghan’s Website Order Women Rising Follow Tim on Instagram // TheNewEvangelicals Join Our Facebook Community Like this episode? Give us a rating Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/...

May 10, 2021•1 hr 9 min

11. I Just Left My Church, Now What? With Tim Whitaker

This is a very personal episode for me. On this episode my friend Will from the Space Between Podcast came on to interview me around my recent departure from my Church of six years. We talk about my backstory and the events leading up to my departure, dealing with Church hurt and where I’m at now. Honest and transparency are a core value for me and this episode is me doing that to the best of my ability. Special thanks to Will from the Space Between Podcast Follow Tim on Instagram // @TheNewEvan...

May 03, 2021•1 hr 5 min

10. A New Kind of Christian Music and Queer Christianity with Grace Baldridge (Semler Music)

On this episode I interview Grace Baldridge who’s artist name is Semler. Grace is a queer Christian who released a worship album that ranked #1 on iTunes. We talked about her experience in the Church as someone in the LGBTQ+ community, writing raw and honest music as worship to the Creator and how to push the Church forward to be more inclusive of a community that has often been ostracized and attacked by the American Evangelical Church. Follow Grace on Instagram // Grace Baldridge Check out Gra...

Apr 26, 2021•1 hr 1 min

9. Multiple Gods in the Bible, A Divine Council and Why is the Bible So Weird with Dr. Michael Heiser

Theology nerds! This episode is for you! I talk to Dr. Michael Heiser who’s expertise is the nature of the spiritual realm in the Bible, namely the Divine Councill and the hierarchy of the spiritual order. If you thought the Bible was weird then buckle up because it’s about to get really weird. Dr. Heiser runs his own podcast, The Naked Bible and is also the Executive Director of the School of Ministry at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida. Follow Dr. Heiser on Instagram // @drmshphd Li...

Apr 19, 2021•1 hr 29 min

8. Decolonizing Oversea's Missions, The Church Persecution Complex and Surviving a Pandemic with Peter Lublink

On this episode I brought my friend Peter on to talk about the Church persecution complex, Church culture and how to decolonize overseas missions. Peter is the executive director of Bethany kids which is a compassionate Christian mission transforming the lives of African children with surgical conditions and disabilities through pediatric surgery, rehabilitation, public education, spiritual ministry and training health professionals. Bethany Kid’s Website Follow Bethany Kids on Instagram // Beth...

Apr 12, 2021•1 hr 6 min

7. Purity Culture and Bad Sex with Dr. Camden Morgante

On this episode I interviewed Dr. Camden Morgante who is a licensed psychologist with a focus on dismantling the harm that purity culture has caused millions of people. We talk about Dr. Camden’s article titled ”The 5 Purity Culture Myths”, healing from purity culture and ways we can teach our kids a healthy view of human sexuality. Dr. Camden’s Website Follow Dr. Camden on Instagram // DrCamden 5 Myths on Purity Culture Take Dr. Camden’s quiz on what purity culture myth affects you Follow Tim o...

Apr 05, 2021•53 min

6. Emergency Broadcast: Satanic Panic, Sneakers and Evangelical Outrage Culture with Bridget Rivera

On this emergency episode I brought on Bridget Rivera @travelingNun) to talk about the recent Lil Nas X controversy and the Evangelical Church’s reaction to it. Bridget is a Christian a lesbian and is currently PHD’ing (stole from her bio). She has served as a committee member for Revoice and worked with other faith-based organizations such as Christians for Social Action and the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Bridget also has a book coming out called Heavy Burden 7 Ways LGBTQ Christia...

Mar 30, 2021•31 min

5. Deconstructing into Atheism with Will from Heretical Theology

Will Thorpe from @Heretical_Theology joins me to share his journey from fundamentalist Christianity all the way into atheism. This episode isn’t about debating which worldview is right. Instead this is about Will being able to share his story and his perspective so we can listen and learn. Follow Will on Instagram // @heretical_theology Follow Tim on Instagram // TheNewEvangelicals Join Our Facebook Community Like this episode? Give us a rating Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands...

Mar 29, 2021•1 hr 3 min

4. Exposing Sexual Abuse in the Evangelical Church with Eric Skwarczynski Host of the Preacher Boys Podcast

On this episode I had Eric Skwarczynski from the Preacher Boys Podcast join me to talk about his work uncovering the rampant sexual abuse in the Evangelical Church, specifically in the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement. Eric is doing the hard but necessary work to uncover how the IFB moves abusers around, covers up abuse and even has a “rehab” for abusers run by…an abuser! Preacher Boys Website Preacher Boys Podcast Preacher Boys Instagram // @preacherboysdoc Follow The New Evangelicals /...

Mar 26, 2021•52 min

3. The Deconstruction Rabbit Hole with Phil Drysdale

Phil Drysdale runs the deconstruction network and is devoted to helping people deconstruct their faith. Phil was deep in the evangelical movement for decades and his story is full of twists and turns. For those deconstructing, this is the episode to listen to. Phil has great language and perspective on this often scary situation that many have found themselves in. We talk about what deconstructing is (and isn’t) what it can look like (or doesn’t look like) and Phil shares some surprising statist...

Mar 22, 2021•1 hr 9 min

2. Toxic Theology, Church Hurt and the Divinity of Christ with Jo Luehmann

Jo Luehmann is a former pastor and is working to dismantle systems of oppression and toxic theology (stole that from her Instagram bio). Jo is someone with not only a powerful story but who also has a perspective on the Christian faith that needs to be heard. We went deep on this one covering topics like the divinity of Christ, the Bible and deconstruction. One thing about Jo that I love is that she is committed to speaking the truth in love without dehumanizing those she disagrees with. Follow ...

Mar 19, 2021•53 min

1. Funny Videos, Evangelical Culture and Raising a Toddler during a Pandemic with Shama4Realz

Shama is a content creator on Instagram and Tik Tok who makes hilarious Christian satire videos. Tim sat down with Shama to talk about the process of creating content, disillusionment with the American Evangelical Church and why the Church, in Shama’s view, is still worth saving. Follow Shama on instagram and Tik Tok // @shama4realz Follow Tim on Instagram // @thenewevangelicals Support the show Join our Facebook Community If you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a review Advertising Inquiries...

Mar 15, 2021•57 min

Intro - Hello! Who Am I and What is This all About?

Thanks for checking out my first episode of this podcast! The New Evangelicals Podcast is created to allow space for people to wrestle through their faith, what it means, and what we do with it. This first episode is a short introduction of who I am and where we are going. Follow us on Instagram @thenewevangelicals Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

Mar 10, 2021•14 min

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