Episode 103: 2021 - It Was a Good One

00:00:10 Matt Welcome everyone to the.net Maui podcast. We're here to keep you up to date with the latest and greatest and. 00:00:21 Matt Net client development. We'll talk about some Azure, some Visual Studio, some blazer, and ofcourse.net Maui. I'm Matt Soucoup. 00:00:29 James And I'm James montemagno. 00:00:31 James Yeah, and I think we're blend. 00:00:32 James In justevenmore.net stuff, you know, I think that's one cool thing about the botnet Maui itself, right? 00:00:38 James Is that part of Dot net, so when there's actually.net news, we're also going to bring that. 00:00:43 James To you too, Matt. 00:00:44 Matt Yeah, yeah, it's the whole it's. I don't want to rebranditasthe.net podcast that's getting a little bit. 00:00:50 Matt Ahead of ourselves, right? 00:00:52 Matt But you know that's. 00:00:53 Matt Thewholepointof.net six is that. 00:00:54 Matt Vr.net Maui is part of, or Xamarin is partof.net. Now it yeah all one happy world so. 00:01:01 James And there are a lot of dot net podcasts. In fact, we'll talk about a way for you to find.net podcast later on the podcast. 00:01:08 Matt Oh wow, James yeah ahead of me. 00:01:11 Matt God you are sneaky. 00:01:14 James I am on it. 00:01:15 James Well let me tell you David cannot join us is on his holiday break. 00:01:19 James I'm going to wish him a happy holiday and all of you. 00:01:21 James Happy holiday, you can't see Matt, but he has his holiday Christmas tree up right now. 00:01:24 Matt Hi Dview, Yep, bringing cheer to my office. 00:01:25 James It's very lovely. 00:01:29 Matt Who can't have more cheer? 00:01:31 Matt I definitely have a lot of. 00:01:32 James Cheer, now people can't see this, but it is pretty much at the brim of your ceiling. 00:01:38 James Now what I was really hoping for is for it to to to actually, like, you know, bend like it's so big. 00:01:45 Yeah, it's it does. 00:01:47 Matt So if you can look really close James and nobody could see this. 00:01:50 Matt So at the very top there's like this little looks like a crown of of little like Christmas ornaments. 00:01:57 Matt That's actually a wreath that I put over the top so you can't see the bend in the tree. 00:02:03 James Nice yeah nice and it looks like you have it. 00:02:05 James You have tiny vaulted ceilings, right? 00:02:07 James So they're little vaulted. 00:02:08 Yeah, Yep. 00:02:08 James It's at the vault, yeah? 00:02:09 Matt Yep Yep Yep so. 00:02:11 James That's nice, we put up our holiday tree, yes, so this last weekend we put the ornaments on, which is fun. 00:02:17 James Me and my wife. 00:02:18 James Every year we alternate buying ornaments. 00:02:21 James However this year. 00:02:22 James We, I thought it was my turn, but I guess it was her turn, but we both bought them. 00:02:26 James It hasn't come in yet but we we do that kind of unveiling of the ornament stuff like that which is kind of fun. 00:02:30 Matt It's nice. 00:02:31 James So that way we just don't buy a bunch of ornaments like the first holiday where there's like 1 ornament on the tree. 00:02:37 James So now we have a bunch on there as well. 00:02:40 James And of course some family members give you ornaments and stuff like that too. 00:02:42 Matt Yeah, right, that sounds fun. 00:02:42 James Which is kind of nice. 00:02:44 Matt We went the extra opposite direction. 00:02:46 Matt We had a bunch of ornaments then we got a cat and now we don't have any ornaments on a tree because we don't want to tempt him to. 00:02:52 Matt Climb a tree so. 00:02:54 James Swap them all down. 00:02:54 Matt We just have. 00:02:55 James Yeah yes, yeah. 00:02:56 Matt We just have lights so. 00:02:57 James I like that like that, well, let's get into the. 00:03:00 James News literally, as we were recording this a new dropof.net Maui is happening, including a new drop of Visual Studio 2022. Seventeen .1 Preview 2 which is very very exciting. 00:03:12 James I've been waiting for it to update in my feed so I can get it over here, but by the time it's out it'll be out and live. 00:03:18 James So this means Donnelly. 00:03:20 James Preview 11 because the new preview happens every month and we literally talk about it every month is happening. 00:03:25 James This is a cool one though, because there's actually a lot of stuff that's happening in this release. 00:03:30 James I was. 00:03:30 James I was surprised I was like, you know, I'm at everyone going on holiday. 00:03:35 James Like you know whatever just slows down a little bit that whatever. 00:03:36 Matt Stuff usually slows down, yeah? 00:03:40 James However, the team just so much good stuff in here. 00:03:44 James There's brand new Windows control styling with the fluent design system, which is nice, so the the system has been upgraded. 00:03:51 James Obviously it's using win UI three, but. 00:03:54 James There were like. 00:03:55 James All their renderers and things in place so they they updated all of them to the new fluent design system. 00:04:00 James Which means your buttons are going to be updated. 00:04:02 James Your entries are going to be updated. 00:04:03 James They're going to have. 00:04:04 James That new beautiful fluent design which looks great on Windows 10 and Windows 11. 00:04:08 James Two which is really, really great. 00:04:10 James So you get to see that and those those light up. 00:04:13 James You don't do anything. 00:04:14 James Done and then this is a cool 1/2 for desktop and also like iPad and tablet applications which is I didn't think anything was going to happen, but it did happen. We now have multi window support. 00:04:31 James Insideof.net Maui, and this is super important for desktop apps because you know Windows. 00:04:38 James It's more than one window. 00:04:40 James Right, yeah windows, it has the S at. 00:04:43 James There's an S at the end. 00:04:45 James There's a windowing system. 00:04:46 James And now in your net, Maui applications. 00:04:49 James This is a huge perk perk. 00:04:52 James Especially, we come from Xamarin forms. 00:04:53 James Is that now there's an application dot current dot windows that gives you reference to all of your open windows. 00:04:59 James This is cool. 00:05:00 James You just say application dot current dot open window. 00:05:02 James You give it a. 00:05:03 James Window which has a page. 00:05:04 James And boom, you got a brand new window that's popped up on your desktop, which is really cool. 00:05:11 James This happens if you're over on Mac OS or iPad OS. 00:05:15 James There's a little bit of stuff that you need to update basically to get this happening. 00:05:21 James To enable these scenes, or basically what they're called. 00:05:25 James But what's nice on it is that you can test it on an iPad simulator too, and there's a video in there showing you that you can. 00:05:33 James You know when you open it. 00:05:34 James It does like side by side. 00:05:35 James So you have like multiple things side by side, which is really really neat and they updated the weather application to take advantage of that. 00:05:42 James Which is cool and hopefully we can update an app that we'll talk about later to have multi window support too. 00:05:48 James So I think would be really cool. 00:05:49 James So just so much good stuff. 00:05:51 James Matt, well, probably my favorite feature to be honest with you. 00:05:55 James 'cause I did it I I may have done it. 00:05:57 James I collaborated with the team I was the spearhead and then the team took and they went wild with it. 00:06:03 James Jonathan Peppers. 00:06:03 Matt Red Bird is it red theme? 00:06:05 James It's the howitzer Chris Holiday time holiday time, Matt. 00:06:06 Matt Red, Steve 00:06:10 James Jeez, Louise. 00:06:12 James We they made red theme the default when you open now. 00:06:17 James Ah, no, the templates have been completely updated 100%, taking advantage of all the brand new C Sharp 10 features and implicit usings that ha Mr Peppers updated for Donald because. 00:06:36 James I I went in there and implicit usings there's some Android and iOS ones. 00:06:40 James There was conflict, so they they updated them. 00:06:41 James They made them all really super duper nice and it's really cool, so implicit usings are there. 00:06:46 James It's super clean. 00:06:48 James All of your file scope namespaces are there. 00:06:53 James Basically when you open it up, there's there's no more using statements anywhere, they're just. 00:06:57 James They're just there. 00:06:57 James It's it's, it's amazing, it's it's good yeah yeah and then and like I said they they they they gather them dynamically which is which is really really cool. 00:07:07 James So there's a set of default. 00:07:09 James And there is some underlying ones for iOS and Android. They filter out once there's no conflict. So if you create a button, it's it's not going to have a conflict between a.net Maui button in a in a Windows button or an Android. 00:07:21 James Great button since things are the. 00:07:23 James Same, so that's super cool. 00:07:25 James Uhm, yeah, and it is available. 17.1 Preview Two you can go and get it. Or if you're on a Mac as well, you can run the. 00:07:33 James Uh net workload install updating thing over there. 00:07:38 James That should also pump it out. 00:07:40 James From my understanding at least there so there's a bunch of new docs and things like that and you of course take. 00:07:45 James A look at the road. 00:07:46 James Mac product wiki. 00:07:48 James All that other stuff. 00:07:49 James So really cool to see going into the hole. 00:07:51 James Days this happened really cool. 00:07:54 Matt Yeah, that's a nice big update for for, uh, December, update. 00:07:56 Matt And yeah, I like the new templates with the implicit usings. 00:07:59 Matt It's a nice little gift to clean up your source files so you get them nice and slim down for the stuff that you don't. 00:08:05 Matt Let's face it, you don't really ever Hughes anyway. 00:08:08 Matt You things that you never use, so using that. 00:08:11 James You never use, that is correct. 00:08:12 James Yeah, yeah, so very cool. 00:08:12 Matt Yep, so there's another really cool update James, that on on your favorite website.net that I just came out recently. 00:08:20 Matt Was it last week? 00:08:21 Matt Earlier this week I had beat last week. 00:08:23 Matt Is that dot net is now available in new languages. 00:08:27 Matt Japanese and simplified Chinese. 00:08:30 Matt So previously it was just English only, but now recently we can it's multi language now Japanese and simplified Chinese which is super neat and so in the blog post where we go and announce that Maira Wenzel actually goes through and shows what was all involved in making a website support multi languages. 00:08:49 Matt Which is in of itself nice to see how the mechanics of all that work. 00:08:55 Matt But obviously when something this big of a change happens, there's still a little more work to do. 00:09:00 Matt Some things might get missed and lost in the translation if you will. 00:09:04 Matt So if you find any issues, let us know. 00:09:07 Matt Hit that little feedback button. 00:09:10 Matt And there's still more. 00:09:11 Matt Work to do as we as we push through it so. 00:09:13 Matt But still Japanese and simplified Chinese are now available on the dot net website. 00:09:19 Matt In addition to English. 00:09:20 Matt So yeah, it's nice to see how we how we're rolling out and including more languages within there. 00:09:26 James Yeah, this one is a super big one and. 00:09:30 James I've been, you know, the entire team has been working close with Myra and the on the web team on this because there's all sorts of different pieces like you were talking about going into this. 00:09:39 James So it's nice. 00:09:40 James A lot of people ask about, you know translations and localization and and mobile apps and also web apps you know and be talking about, like Blazer applications too, right? 00:09:49 James So it's something to think about. 00:09:51 James Come at the start of your application, even if you're just going to architecture your application to make it easier to translate down the road. 00:10:00 James This is something definitely a great blog post and she links to the globalization and localizationasp.net core to think is super cool. 00:10:08 James So really, really cool stuff. I'd love it. What else is happening well over end Visual Studio 2022? Like I said 1701 Preview 2. 00:10:18 James Does drop? 00:10:19 James But there's a whole bunch of. 00:10:20 James Awesome things happening for extenders of Visual Studio like myself who recently released a fantastic theme called the Red theme. You can get it in VS 2022. It matches. 00:10:31 James The VS code theme as well, which is great, but Mads. 00:10:37 James Uh kristiansen. 00:10:39 James He has a live stream on the Visual Studio, YouTube and Twitch and used to be called writing extensions with Mads. 00:10:47 James Now it is called Hacking Visual Studio, where he goes even deeper into the internal bits and interviews. 00:10:51 James People under the hood and stuff like that. 00:10:53 James But during that. 00:10:55 James Uhm, you know as he's super involved with the community, he ended up developing with others. 00:11:01 James This sort of. 00:11:02 James Of Visual Studio like open source community toolkit and also this thing called the Visix or Visual Studio, whatever it is. 00:11:15 James Extensions cookbook and kind of how to get started like a new take on getting started on writing your first extensions. 00:11:23 James Instead of like all this, you know documentation this is like the new way of doing it. 00:11:27 James Laser focus on using the toolkits from the Community toolkit. 00:11:33 James That were developed live because like kind of best practices, so it's a really great way if you're ever been interested in writing an extension, definitely give it a look. 00:11:42 James I absolutely love it and there is an entire playlist that he created on YouTube too. So not only is there all the back history of all the shows. 00:11:53 James That he recorded, but there's all of the. 00:11:54 James These introductory videos on just building and getting started with extensions and we all know Mads is very passionate about extensions so this is great to see helping more developers build great extensions. 00:12:06 Matt Yeah, and that whole Visx cookbook website. I mean, that's like the documentation site for making extensions. Yep, so now is it visx or is it V6? Or how do we pronounce that? 00:12:17 James Ah, I say visix, but I. 00:12:18 What's the? 00:12:20 Matt Yeah, certainly yeah me neither. 00:12:20 James Don't know if that's correct. 00:12:22 Matt Yeah, so I don't know visx it's it's correct now. 00:12:27 Matt So now we have also Onyx James. 00:12:29 Matt Now you and I were talking about this a little bit before the podcast and we're trying to understand Onyx itself. 00:12:35 Matt It's a library, it's cross platform. 00:12:37 Matt It's going to work on your iOS or your Android device and it's machine learning. 00:12:42 Matt I've heard of that yes, and So what this does is that if you take a Onyx model file, get that onto your device, you can actually do cool things like image recognition or or classification in. 00:12:42 James I'm at. 00:12:57 Matt In that case all on device. 00:12:59 Matt You don't have to call out to like Azure Cognitive Services or anything like that, so it's going to be a little bit faster. 00:13:04 Matt Or probably a lot a bit faster 'cause it's running all on device there. 00:13:07 Matt And So what Onyx does if we understand it correctly and it's is that it's, it's kind of as I like to think about it is like a wrapper around the the like cormell or or tensor flow on on the. 00:13:24 Matt Devices itself, and then it gives you a nice little API that you can call in and use them with, so it makes that cross platform in a way it gets at it underneath the covers it like P invokes into all this C++ goodness underneath and James. How am I doing here with this 'cause it's? 00:13:42 Matt It's a it's deep stuff, right? 00:13:44 Matt And we're like I said we were trying to figure. 00:13:46 Matt It out before we went. 00:13:47 Matt Went on so. 00:13:49 James Yeah, you know Mike over on our customer advisory team. 00:13:54 James Uh, about the great blog post. 00:13:55 James Going really in depth on the latest release of the Onyx Runtime, nu get packages you can feel like this is. 00:14:01 James It is basically a super high performant, you know cross platform like Mill, you know training and you know. 00:14:10 James Interfacing of those libraries and you can even convert like other models like you know, Pytorch models and things like that. 00:14:17 James But this works across, you know, all Dot net, Windows, Linux, Mac and Android and iOS, so it's cool here is that on some platforms like iOS or to use cormell on some platforms like Android, it'll use like the. 00:14:29 James Lower level, uh? 00:14:32 James A C++ library that they have, or you can use an API. These are all things that we don't really know we're talking about, but basically you can think. 00:14:38 James Of it, as you know, there are some machine learning stuff right like Visual Studio uses the Onyx Runtime, Adobe Oracle, a bunch of other companies that are out there that are on their website that I'm looking at right now, but it gives you that ability to do machine learning kind of natively. 00:14:58 James Or basically super proficient over there and the sample that might put out in the blog post is an application that classifies an image. 00:15:05 James So what it is, and he has an image of a dog and it's a golden retriever and it will go off and do it. 00:15:11 James And there's this website. 00:15:14 James On the GitHub the Onyx GitHub is called the Onyx models. 00:15:17 James Uber has like all of these pre built ones. 00:15:19 James If you're looking for languages or vision or other things like that, you can go and grab all of these different things, which is cool. 00:15:26 James So he shows how to embed the model file in there, how to pick it, how to do all this stuff and visualize it. 00:15:34 James Inside of a cross platform, Xamarin forms app which is super cool and that should be backwards compatible with Dana Maui as well. 00:15:40 James Because you know, those packages are, so I'm assuming and if not, then yeah, I'm sure that they're working with. 00:15:45 James That team to do it, which is cool, but if you haven't, also definitely check out in this GitHub repo that's in. 00:15:52 James The blog post which is. 00:15:53 James The the mob cat samples. 00:15:56 James It's a mobile customer advisory team, Swieqi. 00:15:58 James Swiecie and Alex and Mike and Ben and Alex Blount DNL work on this team. 00:16:06 James A bunch of amazing people and they have all sorts of like crazy crazy repose. 00:16:12 James I've got like an Azure media Services one working with C plus. 00:16:15 James Plus how how we're with in memory stuff notification, how backends the Onyx thing SAS token generator. 00:16:22 James They're like all sorts of different samples that are in there which are really kind of cool just to kind of like look at. 00:16:27 James So definitely you know. 00:16:30 James Give it a look. 00:16:30 James In general, it's a fun, fun like hack projects that they work on over there. 00:16:35 James Which is quite cool to see. 00:16:37 Matt Yeah yeah, the the Bobcat team works with a lot of our customers and helps them out with mobile applications. 00:16:42 Matt And then on this sample GitHub repo, they put their learnings. 00:16:46 Matt I suppose on how and we can use them for ourselves. 00:16:50 Matt And the Onyx team is that we're going to have them on the podcast as one of our customer stories early next year, either January or February. 00:17:00 Matt Schedules depending yeah, so we're working that out, so we'll be able to hear a little bit more in depth. 00:17:02 James How cool. 00:17:06 Matt From the people. 00:17:07 Matt Who did it? 00:17:08 Matt And they'll be able to explain it because they're smart and. 00:17:14 Matt They know this stuff, so yeah, and then James. 00:17:18 Matt You and I yesterday did a did a learn live on micro services. 00:17:23 Matt Yes, which was a learned live that unition I did helped out from the.netcompsandso.net comp. All the videos are available. 00:17:33 Matt And I known James, you just did that right? 00:17:36 Matt You just got everything online, but I saw a blog post that you did about that, not tool. 00:17:40 Matt When I go is. 00:17:41 James It from Don account? Yeah yes yeah, all the videos are there 100% at dot net com which you know happened. 00:17:42 Matt Were all the videos going there? 00:17:47 James I guess before last month podcasts not only did come from Microsoft learn a bunch of new modules came out, so like everything was updated to down at six, there was a new blazer learning path. 00:17:58 James Uh, minimal API learning path. 00:18:00 James You and I are working on the dot net Maui learning path where we're waiting. 00:18:04 James There's there's a lot of changes and stuff happening. 00:18:06 James Yeah, so we don't have to update it every single month for every single preview and then someone learns something and it's different. 00:18:12 James So we're kind of waiting for, you know, I. 00:18:14 James I think RC is kind of what I'm yeah I'm thinking about, but we have a whole learning path. 00:18:19 James Prepped and ready to go as well, but over there there was 83 Sessions plus 20 pre rivers or 100 sessions that you can browse through across all different topics in net including all all the source code. All the PowerPoints are live and additionally for the.net conf keynote and for many many sessions. 00:18:40 James There's an application that myself Nishan Neal from the team. 00:18:45 James Dan Roth, a team completing concepts worked on as well, which is the net podcast application. 00:18:52 James It's an open source. 00:18:54 James Crossplatformapplicationusing.net Maui for iOS, Android, Mac and Windows, and a blazer application for both web and progressive web apps and additionally it shows off how to build and blend Donnie Maui and Blazer together in a hybrid. 00:19:13 James Way, which is really really cool with interactive elements like signal R and their two. 00:19:18 James Itusesasp.net core for the razor marketing page. Though Blazor web app inside of it hosted and it also uses brand new minimal APIs and asp.net core for the back end services. And it uses a bunch of worker services that are all micro service bundle. 00:19:38 James Technologies into new new service called Azure Container Apps. 00:19:43 James And it's all open source. 00:19:44 James You can actually grab the source code, run it locally with Docker, which is really cool with a few button clicks. 00:19:52 James And additionally you can deploy your own Azure back end in minutes to you clone the repo or fork the repo, set a few environment variables and it scaffolds everything out you focus. 00:20:03 James Figure out all that stuff for you automatically using an. 00:20:05 James ARM template but. 00:20:06 James Yeah, it's all available. 00:20:07 James You can take a look on there I highlighted some of my favorite videos like the what's new in C sharp with Mads and Dustin but also. 00:20:14 James Me kid is astonishing presentation on supercharging your productivity with Roslyn and AI talking about that AI. 00:20:20 James It's all there. 00:20:20 James We watch all of the videos. 00:20:21 James It's all happening, and additionally, we'll put a. 00:20:24 James Link to this. 00:20:25 James Microsoft learn live that you and I hanselman. 00:20:30 James Myra Galloway Fritz collaborated on. 00:20:34 James With the learned team to do modern web development with. 00:20:37 James Net 6 and we finish it with micro Services. 00:20:41 James Kind of talking about the stuff right here that we use in the dot net. 00:20:46 James Com Podcast application which. 00:20:48 James Is so cool. 00:20:49 James To see it all come together, which is really really. 00:20:54 Matt Cool full circle and on. 00:20:56 Matt I think it's December 16th so like 2 days from now which would be probably the day we launched this podcast, right? 00:21:03 Matt Daisy is the launch party or after party for yeah. 00:21:07 Matt Yarn.net comps check that out. I think we'll probably have that recorded too, just in case this outcast comes out after the launch party after party and. 00:21:15 Speaker 2 Totally have. 00:21:17 James My party. 00:21:18 Matt Anyways, yeah check out the whole learn live series. It's modern web development on with.net. And yeah, it's super great. 00:21:26 Matt There's like five or six of those out there, so which brings us now to James? 00:21:31 Matt Some cloud news dented video? 00:21:36 Matt And one thing I wanted to talk about is Azure storage. 00:21:38 Matt Azure storage is always really important for us whether we're doing mobile apps or just even even web apps and such. 00:21:45 Matt Blobs, big binary objects, and with thenew.net Azure SDK as well. One thing that they allow us to do is we can actually tune our uploads and downloads with them with with what they're calling storage transfer options and some of the things we can do with that. 00:22:05 Matt Is that we can set like concurrency? 00:22:08 Matt So let's say we are. 00:22:09 Matt Uploading 10 megabytes and we can say we want to have five essential lines open to blob storage, and we do that so it can go faster or just one. 00:22:20 Matt And we can also set like maximum transfer size that we want to have open too, so we don't. 00:22:26 Matt I guess Max. 00:22:27 Matt So if we run a for Max out our. 00:22:29 Matt Our data plan or something like that. 00:22:31 Matt So there's a couple of neat little things that they they did to tune their tune there. 00:22:35 Matt The way you can upload and download. 00:22:37 Matt So those I was talking about uploading. 00:22:39 Matt Same thing goes for downloading with the concurrency in the in the transfer size. 00:22:43 Matt Yeah, just so I guess some neat little things that they put in there and that they released so the the Azure SDK team is always innovating on there. 00:22:51 Matt Under stuff I'm making things really nice for netdev. 00:22:54 Matt Clippers to interact with Azure services. 00:22:58 Matt So yeah, I thought that was pretty neat. 00:23:00 Matt Those two little. 00:23:01 Matt They're not huge things, but they're like little things that make life easier. 00:23:06 James Nice so I love it. 00:23:09 Matt And now James will get to the Azure service of the. 00:23:11 Matt Month and this. 00:23:12 Matt One is out there both literally and. 00:23:17 Matt So I'm not sure how how practical this is. 00:23:20 Matt Going to be. 00:23:20 Matt For our listeners or for any one of us, but it's amazing. 00:23:24 Matt It's called Azure or. 00:23:25 At all. 00:23:26 James Orbital something has to do with space. 00:23:26 Speaker 2 Right? 00:23:28 Matt Yeah, it's part of Azure space as well and I actually had no idea this thing even existed. 00:23:33 Matt Wait wait till you get a load of this. 00:23:35 Matt This is actually at various Azure data centers. 00:23:39 Matt We have satellite antennas cleaned up. 00:23:44 Matt All right, so they're Co located. 00:23:47 Matt And you can actually reserve time on a satellite antenna. 00:23:53 Matt To essentially control it so you can communicate with various satellites well out there and then you can get once you get that data down, it's they're automatically connected to the Azure Azure backbone and away you go like you're ingesting data and you're going super quick. 00:24:08 Matt Why would you want to do this? 00:24:11 James Satellites are cool, yeah? 00:24:13 Matt Right, I mean it's amazing. 00:24:14 Matt The portal looks just like that when you get onto the portal to do this, like the first option is scheduled time or you know which satellite you're like. 00:24:23 Matt Register a satellite you know, like where you pick which satellite you want to write a story with. 00:24:28 Matt So mainly it's aimed at like companies. 00:24:30 Matt Like like Airbus has a fleet of satellites up there who have like really really high resolution. 00:24:38 Matt And when you think about it though, if you're launching satellites you also have to have the ground station you know to you mean just can't throw a satellite into orbit. 00:24:47 Matt You also have they had the ground station to communicate and. 00:24:50 Matt You can do that, but if you want to have it like real time and make it fast. 00:24:54 Matt What could be better than to have, like Microsoft, solve the problem for you and have? 00:24:59 Matt A hook, right? 00:24:59 Matt To the backbone of the inner core of Azure. 00:25:02 Matt So that's what this is all aimed at is really. 00:25:04 Matt It's aimed at private satellite customers, but I had no idea that like NASA has public satellites up there. 00:25:12 Matt That's cool. 00:25:13 Matt Yeah, that's pretty cool. 00:25:14 Matt And a lot of them are like weather based satellites, but we still can connect to him and and like control him and grab like Earth base weather, photos Trump. 00:25:23 Matt Anyways, the present yeah, the practical application though, like if you're using, you know the. 00:25:24 James For some reason. 00:25:30 Matt Is that like the renting time on these satellites is like you can do things like maybe use the Onyx runtime to identify like container ships like when they get into port and say alright, you know these were going to be 2 backed up when we want to reroute these container ships over to, you know from Puerto Seattle down to. 00:25:50 Matt Port Tacoma or something like that so it's or maybe like fighting forest fires so you can actually see where the fires are and you can like tell the people who are fighting them to get out of there because you know it's going to be a dangerous path. 00:26:03 Matt Or give them the best path out of there and stuff like that. 00:26:06 Matt So and yeah, so it's really what you do is you get the time series down from the satellite, throw em into like event hub or. 00:26:13 Matt Something like that and. 00:26:14 Matt Away you go and do your thing. 00:26:16 Matt So yeah, I just thought it was amazing that they actually have now like satellite dishes, colocated with the Azure data centers, and they're building more. 00:26:23 Matt And there's actually some private satellite dishes there, too, so. 00:26:27 James Azure orbital, that's cool. 00:26:28 James I like it. 00:26:29 James I mean, it makes a lot of sense because you know, you just gave some good examples. 00:26:32 James But you know, Internet cell phone perception is not available everywhere in the middle of the middle of the ocean. 00:26:39 James And you know in in forests as I drive through the state, you know, and in fact you know if you do cross country driving, you often have that right. 00:26:47 James I have a SiriusXM satellite and I get you know music beam to my car which is kind of cool. 00:26:54 James Most times, unless there's some crazy blockage, but you know, I think about that. 00:26:57 James There are some really pivotal things and there are, you know, satellite phones. 00:27:01 James Still, for the reasons that the cell phones don't work everywhere in general you know so tech they don't even work half the time in the city. 00:27:10 James So or in my house you know so. 00:27:13 Right? 00:27:14 Matt Yeah, like mail. 00:27:14 James Oh, that's really cool. 00:27:15 James That's a good good. 00:27:16 Matt Yeah, and if you're like a scientist, you run time on a satellite to get data and then process it with Azure right away so you know the whole thing is taken care of for you. 00:27:25 Matt I'll link out to a video where the PM in charge of orbital talks about and she goes through all the issues like 'cause there's satellites at three moon satellites are moving, the Earth is moving, satellites are at different. 00:27:37 Matt Orbit elevations and like they transfer the satellite from one antenna to another to get best reception for you and all that stuff. 00:27:44 Matt It's it's really amazing. 00:27:47 James That's crazy that is crazy. 00:27:50 James I love it. 00:27:51 James Pick the pod you gotta pick. 00:27:53 James Oh, the pod. 00:27:54 Matt Oh, do I have a pic of the pod you go first? 00:27:56 Matt James, I'll have to think. 00:27:57 James I'm gonna have to think pick the pod. Well, obviously it's organized orbital. No, it's my pick of the pod has to be just allthe.com videos. 00:28:07 James I'm just copping out here to be honest with you. 00:28:09 James It's a holiday time. 00:28:10 James I'm gonna think about. 00:28:12 James In general I think that it's a. 00:28:14 James It's a nice time to go. 00:28:15 James Watch some videos, get some rewind. 00:28:17 James Hands down and of course you know there's so much as educational content. 00:28:23 James That's my pick of the pod educational content. 00:28:25 James This year alone, I think the team is in a spectacular job of putting out so much new content, whether it be videos, live streams, the events, Microsoft learning content, new documentation you want to. 00:28:37 James One series, I mean, you name it. 00:28:39 James There's there's something for everyone to go off and learn. 00:28:42 James Dot net right. There's a new education pack. There's new interactive notebooks. I mean, there's just so much out there to do so I think that there's just a great time to get started exploring content, and you know some great content from MVP's and community members out there too that are, you know, people are always like I want to, you know, go even further. 00:29:02 James I can I can I pay for some stuff like how do I there's a Pluralsight so there's other stuff? 00:29:06 James There's other stuff out there like I think there's like a net mastery course, and I know Tim Corey also has a AC sharp, you know, course as well. So a lot of just amazing people in the community doing awesome. 00:29:18 James Stuff a lot of stuff for free on the youtubes, but also a lot of great you. 00:29:22 James Know you know curriculum almost out there to get started in bootstrap careers, so just a really great time to go learn and start all this new stuff and there's just really something for everyone no matter where they're at their stage in their career. 00:29:37 James Just getting started or. 00:29:38 James Or like me, you know. And then 25 years in. 00:29:41 Matt Yep, can't cannot argue with that pic of the pod and. 00:29:45 Matt I'll just say. 00:29:46 Matt While you're learning, install your install the montemagno red theme. 00:29:50 Matt Yes, and in Visual Studio and get it I'm gonna have to do it. 00:29:53 Matt I have not done it. 00:29:54 Matt I thought it was just a James joke at the beginning like you were just, but it's a real thing now. 00:29:59 Matt People like it. 00:30:00 Matt Yeah, you read me a comment on. 00:30:02 Matt From from the GitHub repo. 00:30:04 Matt So I'm going. 00:30:04 James Hey Bill, on that people love it, they're all. 00:30:04 Matt To try it, yeah. 00:30:06 Matt About it I'm gonna give it a shot, see what it is. 00:30:08 Matt So yeah, everybody else should give it. 00:30:09 James To try it out that theme Madame, I think it's gonna do it for this week. 00:30:14 James So this month. 00:30:14 Matt Yeah, this month this year is. 00:30:14 James 's podcasts happy holidays. 00:30:17 Matt Yeah, happy holidays. 00:30:18 Matt This year podcast we're going to see everybody next year. 00:30:21 James Bye bye.