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THE DECIDER: State of Origin Game 3

Jul 16, 202426 minSeason 2Ep. 54
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Episode description

Welcome to a thrilling episode of The Muttlay Krew, where we dive into the most anticipated Rugby League match of the season: Game 3, the decider of the Ampol State of Origin at Suncorp Stadium. Join us as we discuss the key players, strategies, and predictions for this epic clash.

They analyze the team changes, including the return of Cobbo and Gagai for Queensland, and the potential debut of Mitchell Barnett for New South Wales. The discussion heats up as they debate the impact of player switches and the tactics each team might employ.

Expect a deep dive into the psychological and physical aspects of the game, with insights into key players like Reece Walsh, Kalyn Ponga, and Bradman Best. Will Queensland secure three consecutive wins under Billy Slater, or will New South Wales turn the tables under the guidance of Maguire?

Tune in for expert analysis, passionate debates, and a few laughs as we gear up for what promises to be an unforgettable State of Origin decider. Don't miss out on this electrifying episode!

Transcript

The Motley Crue Begins

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the episode of The Motley Crue, where we're talking the biggest, baddest game of Rugby League of the season, possibly. It is Game 3, the decider of the Ampoule State of Origin, and holy moly, we're at Suncorp Stadium. Oh, I've wrecked his flow. He's mad. He was open to force it, and now he is trying to force it. What did you even fucking say? Fuck! Oh, well and truly, he said him all. You were on a fucking roll then, too.

Yeah, that's why I don't even know what he said, so I couldn't even, like, to just process it. He said, holy moly. Is that it? Yeah, then he was like, he didn't get picked. And he didn't get picked, because he said, holy moly. Come on, find it, find it, reach for it. Here we are in the mutleys to talk about it. Talk about what? I'm going to restart Holy moly Holy kawalti Is out But Kyle and Cody are in How we doing lads? Are we ready? Are we feeling pumped?

Are we getting nervous? Are we How's the story going to go? I don't know What's your name Cody? My name's Jay Put me in coach Don't put me in the coach I think you'll be close to this game But never touch your toes. It's a It's the first one in a while Where I'm like I'm not sure. I feel like we have the better back line. You guys definitely have the better forward pack. And after the way you started in that second game, we need our forwards to stand up to allow our back line to do anything.

Because if we get bullied again, that's what I'm scared of. And I hate that we were talking about it. They've been saying in the lead up, it's going to be a completely different team. We let that happen and we're not going to be the same team. We're going to be different. And it's like, oh, you could have just shut up and shown up. And now you've got to try and back your words up.

See, those reports are coming out that the Maroons are considering starting Harry Grant and Moe Von Awaker and sending Ben Hunt and Linda Collins to the bench. I reckon it's, what do you call it?

Team Changes and Strategy Discussion

Oh, Lindsay Collins to the bench I don't like. Cotter adds factor. Cotter's got to be the mongrel. Come in there and fucking yap at your ankles. Cotter's, what's Cotter got to do with it? He said fucking. Mo. Yeah, Mo on. Collins to the bench. I would prefer Cotter on the bench. Yeah. Because he brings more mongrel coming onto the field. Yeah. You want to fucking listen when I'm talking, brother? He doesn't do it sometimes. It really annoys you. Oh, he doesn't listen when someone's talking,

does he? Quickly before we keep breaking it in. I didn't realize Cuddle was the other prop. Quickly, let's just go through the team changes. Queensland, Cobbo's back in on the wing. Gagai, back in Origin, in Maroon. Hope's on the wing, which I like. And then that's it. You like him as a Queensland fan or as a New South Wales fan? If I was a Queenslander. He's got to consider himself lucky because- He wasn't going to get dropped, I reckon.

He's dropped. When you look at that and gags in, he was dropped. And he got saved by an injury. And then, unfortunately, probably the biggest scare factor, Mr. Caelan Ponga on the bench as number 17, like he did on debut. Yeah. Fuck him. It's like, I mean, X factor wise, but your bench is so much better than our bench. New South Wales, Bradman best in for Latrell Mitchell. Yeah. Maybe, possibly. I think he's in. It sounds like today and yesterday he was training with the squad. Sounds good.

And Ola Kowatugonski, like you said, Ola Aute, for Mitchell Barnett to make his debut in a Blues jersey on the bench for New South Wales. That's a good, he's solid. I think he fucking knocked the door down and said, give me that jersey. How he's been playing for Warriors the last three or four weeks and playing on the edge and the middle, just to show that he can do both at a very, very high clip. lip. So congrats Barnett for that.

And the other little change up old Keery out and they got their little dispensation bullshit. Swalee is 20th man. Bradman Best out Swalee in last minute. I think Burton will come in alright. No Burton will stay 18th man because he covers more positions. That'd be scary. I don't want that. Swalee straight in. I actually wouldn't mind it. I don't know if I've got any faith in Swalee after that fuck up. No well see that's where he because it might scare getting him in there last

minute. Walsh might be like, oh. Not even that. No, I'm not meaning that way. I mean that it could ping the Maroons to go over the scale a little bit and try and get some payback on him and maybe tip the scales too far. We don't have anyone like that in the team. And because Swalegi would then go back to the right, I'd say, and then Croydon would go back to the left. So it would throw a spinner into the works. Yeah. Especially because Queensland have been marking up a certain way.

Definitely. So let's get back to you, Queen, in the chat if we weren't finished. So if that happens, he's late male. I agree. I think they should move Cotter to the bench, Collins and Fowler to start off. You've got your biggest bodies there to start for the first 20, 25 minutes. I just don't think, yeah, Mo's not really a come off the bench and get into it. He's not like a game changer. He's good to start. Collins, you want him out there because he just fucking just loves it.

Cotter just has a little bit more. We don't have like a Spencer Lenu or anything come off the bench that just – someone who can just come on and just rip and tear. Yeah, you've got Felice Davuzzi. You've got one that plays the Gold Coast Titans, but, you know, I didn't want to pick him. Oh, yeah. What the – I reckon the – The gas is too low. Yeah, but I don't understand why he just can't come off the bench or start and then put him on the bench. Blows my mind.

But that's how Billy Slater's picking it. He's done it. I still reckon it's because he backed with something. Because wasn't DCE out of the team for a bit while after he backflipped on the Titans? He backflipped for a little bit. Fucking Titans. Should never have come back into the comp. No, it's definitely evenly poised, I feel. It's really going to come down to if Queensland are going to stand up to you forwards.

Because I said it after the first game, in the start of the second half, where you nearly sort of bullied your way back into the game, And I said, we needed someone to stand up and give it back to you. And we sort of got away with it because it was that 12-on-13. But then that second game just blew us off the park.

Analyzing Forward Lineups

What do you mean? Kurt Capel and Jeremiah Nanai are very aggressive, very confronting blokes in the back row there. I just still love that one where Cotter come over to talk some shit and cry and just went, what? Like, yeah, real impressive, bro. He's got palm wire bloke without a full hand.

Pressure on Reece Walsh

I think there's a lot of pressure on Reece Walsh in this game. I think he had a shocker in game two. He looked very rattled. It's going to be very interesting the first 20, 30 minutes if he's not on top of his game that if Slater pulls him. I want to see how eager he is to take a hit up out of his own hand again. Because he got rattled after that. Because he tried to do one of that first one. Yeah.

Early in game two, he tried to take a hit up, like obviously for himself to get himself in the big game. But I think, was it Reece Robson? Got hit by Robson. And Martin? It might have been Martin. I don't know who the second bloke was, but it was Reece Robson that got him. They just picked him up and drilled him. And I think after that, it took him out of the game. At least he's had a run this time in between the games. for at least one.

And he looked confident against the Panthers. The Panthers, so yeah, that was good. And he was in the line, he was defending, he was trying to get into it. It wasn't like he was shying away. So that was good to see. So hopefully he goes good again. I could be a little bit worried with Ponga going into the middle. One game in what, two months? Even more. I know he looked good, but there's looking good at fullback and then playing in the pack in state of origin decider.

I wouldn't expect him to play more than 25 minutes, though, if it's going to plan. I reckon he'll come out tight. The last time we said that, he'd come on 25 minutes into the game and played the whole game. Yeah, because he just played so good, though. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how well he's going to play it. New South Wales. We're slowly fucking plays. We know exactly where he's going to go. If Bess does play, do you feel good about that? I guess I do.

I think defensively. I do personally. I feel like he's been playing really good for Newcastle. He played that one game for New South Wales before, and he played really well. He looked like he could handle it, so I think that's all good positives for him. And you're right, I think defensively he can do a job, which we know he probably can't do the attacking as well as Luttrell, obviously, but I think if he can just defend well and then just still be a runner of the ball.

All he's got to do is run lines out there off of old wakeboarder himself, Jerome Luai. Yeah. Because he'll just, ah, left foot, ah, left foot. Help me, I'm drowning.

Team Changes and Debutants

I actually yeah I don't mind it's funny how you know 12 months later we're like oh yeah Bradman Best not that bad considering when Bradman Best was named for game three last year everyone was like what the fuck left field, but I think defensively he's becoming one of the best defensive centers in the comp. And you know on the attacking side he doesn't need to do that much in my opinion he's just got to do his job Run hard lines and tipped the ball to his winger. Yeah, the fop.

And sort of brought up before, but Barnett making a debut, and I think it's all good. He's playing well. Barnett making a debut, I think that's good. He deserves it. He's playing well, and I think he will suit Origen. I think he's going to fuck them all. I think Amali was a bit unlikely. Yeah. Because he didn't do anything wrong. He's the same as Hudson Young. Nah, he's shit. Yeah, but he didn't do anything wrong either. That's what I mean.

Apart from tennis. You haven't been dropping anyone. You've just been making the team better. And I think they've just seen how good Liam Martin and Kreider have been playing.

They're like they can play 80 at that fucking next level clip we don't really need someone on the bench that can maybe play 30 minutes yeah so now they've just got conor watson who can fill it he'll come in late maybe they might change his minutes because they might want reese bolton there at the end i don't know if they want conor watson at the end if it's a tight game be interesting to see how magic goes that but then you've got yeah your three fronties basically because as i go.

Comes in as a ball-playing kind of front rower when he comes on. He still needs to stop ball-playing in origin level. He can't do it. Yeah, nah. Just fucking run hard, tackle hard. I honestly... Can't do it. At club level, he's fucking great as a ball-playing block, but when he gets into the origin, it's that much quicker and he isn't quick. And the defensive structures are so different. Yeah. I get scared every time he starts to try and ball-play. He just needs to get the ball and fucking run.

Because when he does that, he's good. It's been a problem with New South Wales over the last few years because you've got so many superstars. Everyone wants to touch the ball. Everyone wants to do their thing instead of just going, no, just fucking swing it to here, swing it to there. Let one person sort of control it and let everyone do the little things. Whereas everyone for the last few years, everyone wants to do everything. I want to ball play. I want to do this. I want to do that.

It just got way too congested. Well, we can swing it out to Lua and he can step off his left again. Bang, bang, bang. Last goal. Still can't believe that in the last game where we had you guys absolutely stripped on our left, your right. It worked out well, mate. Lomax scored. They fired it out. They fired it out to the little on the left. It's basically a four on two. Nah, left foot. Yeah, there it is. So game three. And what are we playing for?

Stakes for Queensland and New South Wales

Queensland playing for three in a row. Billy Slater three in a row, which is just scary to think of. Three on the trots. As a new coach. And then New South Wales, they're playing to win. And Maguire to get his first and just show that he's a man for it for the next few years. It'd be a big fucking win, too, because you haven't won a decider up here in fucking donkeys. Yeah, since 2005.

When Andrew Johns is a legend. The last time we won a decider in Queensland, the halfback, his team was running last. Oh, you're bringing this one up again. Here we go. What a stat. And how's about- Even though Parramatta are no longer last, but- Yeah. Oh, 16. You lose. Same position on the table. Oh. No, because I think it was 15 teams then. Huh? Yeah, fuck. There's 15 teams now. Oh, the old fucking titans weren't in there yet. Yeah, no Titans.

It has about old Maguire too asking if they could drive the bus down Caxton Street. Oh, good old times. Yeah, they knocked him back and said no. It's too rowdy, mate. And then I've seen a few people go, man, Queensland dropped the ball on that one because why wouldn't you want to be throwing cans and shit at the bus right before Origen just giving it to the New South Welshman?

I was like it would be like it's one time just let everyone cut loose, you're going to have it's not going to be brittle windows on the bus is it it's more just a litter and the fucking look of it oh and then someone goes next level and throws something they shouldn't go the molotov go the big open ones so they're over the top yay. Depends if the bus was made in Newcastle might not be that good wouldn't have even made it okay lad let's try Let's pick it.

Kyle, you've been pretty good at this, so let's pick our winners, scores. Great one. I'm conflicted because everything's telling me Queensland's going to win. Oh, here we go. Just setting himself up. I see I told you. But I think just going off Madger's history, especially with the Kiwis, what he was able to do after one game with them. One series. No, like turning it around from losing to Australia to pump it up. That first game for New Zealand he coached, they got pumped.

The next game they turned around and they went on to win the World Cup or whatever they won. Whatever they won. Like a series, not just one game. But it was the first game he got pumped and then they pumped after that, so it was one game. Yeah, okay. I've got to slow it down for the Watts fans. It sounds like he's saying just one game lost, one game win. No, it was one game lost. No, he turned it around. But that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it. After one loss. One game, either one. No.

After one loss, he turned it around. He could turn it around for fucking 24 years. It's got nothing to do with it. He turned it around after one. Are you listening to how he's phrasing it? You want to fucking burr up? Come with fucking knowledge. He's not putting the commas in the semicolons and explaining it well enough. Stop talking about the colons. I'll put something in your semicolon in a minute. There was nothing semi about it. It was fully erect.

Banter and Memories

Jesus. Maybe it does look like a semi because it's cold. Yeah. Anyway. There's a little doorbell just knocking that. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. I reckon the Blues, they're going to do it to us again. Yeah, I'm going Queensland because New South Wales are going to boom us up. We're going to get the hopes up and we're going to fucking lose. I'm going Queensland. Are you fucking hearing that down there?

I hate it, but I know what he's doing. He's been doing it with his tips this week, the sharks and all this shit. He's trying to do it. He's trying to manifest in a different way where it's fucking gross how he's doing it. New South Wales are going to fucking win. We're going to get it done. We're going to raise the shield at Suncorp and it's going to be fucking historic. And it's going to be a fucking close game. We're not going to win this easily.

It's going to be close, and we're going to show that we can win it. This is... Can I finish first before you start going on? Because I haven't given my score yet. We're just on tips, I guess. I'm picking Queensland to win, but New South Wales to score more points. You're fucking stupid. Yes, but I think it's going to be low scoring. I don't think it's going to be a high scoring one like I predicted last time. Golden point. I reckon it's going to be... Core.

Fast track. Now, both defenses are going to turn up here, and I reckon it's going to be... Spit it out. 20 to 16. To Queensland. To Queensland. Because I can already see it now. We'll be up 16-14 with five minutes to go. And guess what? It'll probably be someone like- Lindsay Gines. Fucking, what's his name? Tonka? What's his name? What? Dump truck. Dozer. Dozer. That's it. They're not going to do the exactly same thing again. Oh. Dump truck. Or Backo. What's his name? Bobcat.

Fucking hell. You fucking idiot. Nah, it'd be something stupid like Kurt Coburn. Felice Calfusia run 40 and score. Probably be DCE. DCE will get an acceptance score. DCE is going to continue his number one golden point player in the game. He's going to kick him a field goal in overtimes. Prediction right here, New South Wales ahead with 10 minutes to go. May or may not lose the game from there. My prediction is it's nil all and either team wins.

My prediction is going to be nil all after a minute. Oh, fuck. Gone. I'm going to get Newcastle. Off the kickoff. Newcastle. I've got New South Wales. I've got Newcastle in an upset. I've got New South Wales to win. All those buzzers in the back, we don't know. 22-14.

Predictions and Game Scenarios

With With seven and a half to go Mitchell Moses He's going to just run it He's going to get Man of the match And man of the series Mitchell Moses 22-12 Oh you're just backing off My coattails are you This is a new game This is new, So what do you got New South Wales 22-16 22-14 You've got the mom Mom Mitchell Moses And he's going to win The whole Wally Lewis Because he'll have Two rippers of a game time. He's going to do a Billy Slater. He's going to do a Billy...

No, but... Yes, he's going to do a Billy Slater. No, but at least... Oh, yeah, no, exactly. He's going to do a Billy Slater. And he's all blowing up about it. No, he won't because he's not retiring. I don't know. He might just give up like the Eels, Premiership hopes. I finished fucking eight rounds ago. My man and a natch. I'm going this year. He's the fucking biggest tosser. Okay, Jones. Yeah, what the fuck? You just need to fucking set yourself up just so you can be like, yeah, Tom, yeah.

I just, mate, it's the same movie. And then if New South Wales win, you've just fucking. No, it's the same movie every fucking time. You put yourself. We win game two and everyone goes, oh, it looks good. And then they fucking shit themselves in game three. Every fucking time. And I'm done. So I'm just preparing myself. If New South Wales win, you're not allowed to celebrate. Be a slug. I'm not watching it. I'm going. Oh, who's your series? Oh, it'd be DCE. I'm going.

I reckon it's going into extra time. I think we're going. We're going overs. Oh, please, Cody. We're going overs. Cherry Evans to slow himself to one pointer. That would be amazing. That would be a dagger from another fucking... I'm going to go a bit of a random score in the field goal world. I'm going 17-16.

Try Scorers Predictions

17-16 one point over times 16 apiece rolling into it you love to see it I can see that I can see that exactly happening that would be a NSW way to lose and then on the back of that because DCE kicks it it's going to be just beautiful he's then going to get the mum, beautiful and the and the series who got it in the first game DCE didn't he, somehow jagged it in the first game He did Yeah So if he gets it again If he

gets it again It's a halfback It's all about the half If he gets it again Give it to Lindsay Collins, Beautiful Well let's go have a little look-see, Let's get a winner. You burped? Jesus. Hang on. Got a fucking burp smell. Let's go have a look-see and let's see. Who's getting over the stripe, boys? Let's get one. We've got close, but we haven't hit an origin one. I think we've got... I'm not doing it. I want to do it, but I'm not doing it

because it'll be the one time that it doesn't happen. I know exactly what you're doing. I'm like, after the last game, I need to back it, but I can't. If he scores though Record for most tries in a series, He can't not He scored 2-1-1-3-1 In his last 5 games He can't score again If he does He scores the most tries in an Origin series. I'm thinking I'm thinking I just I don't want it to be a part of the bet But I'm just going to throw it out there In the cosmos Cosmos.

I feel like for some, everyone's been bagging him a little bit. Me, me included. I reckon fucking old, now his name has completely slipped me. Capewell is going to get across. Off the bench. Oh, he's starting back row. He's starting back row. Capewell. He's paying $6.25 for starting edge rower. I'm not putting him in our bet. Okay. Please don't. I'm not putting him in our bet. I just, that's what I said.

I'm not putting him in the bet. I'm just throwing it out into the cosmos that I reckon he's going to get across. So who are you putting into that? Lindsay Collins. No. I still feel more confident about that than Cable. No, Teddy's not the fullback. Yeah, that's true. Can I pick Munster? You could go Dearden, but I don't like him. Nah. Nah, you know what? I'm going just the moment, the man, what he's been through, he's back, Gagai. Beautiful. I'm going Gags.

Gags is me anytime. I just feel like he's going to will his way across that line. I think you know who I'm picking, Kyle. So you go ahead. I don't know who you're picking. I'm going to be in your mind. No, you're going to be in my mind. Off the bench. I'm picking a fucking Queenslander. I'm going my boy. Bradman Best. The BB. The BB. And he's got nice. Left center. He scored last. Yeah, loving it. He's scoring. I don't mind which way this goes.

I see Mitchell Moses. They're going to do the same play our Parano do off the bench. He's going to burn Gagai off the scruff. Oh, I like it. We've got best into Gagai into DC. I'm going to go with the guy that's scored in every Origin game he's played. Best gags. Zach Lomax. He's going Lomax. Lomax. I was going to go Val Holmes, but on the wings of good shit. 21-50 we're looking at, lads. So let's get that done. Can I change it?

You can change it. No, I'm not going to change it. No, I'm not going to change it. I'm going to stay with Lomax. But if Val Holmes scores and Lomax doesn't, I'm going to fucking throw myself. Well, let's put a dollar on Katewell and Holmes and just a random one. Moses. He wanted Moses. Moses. There we go. Put like a dollar on that one just so we can be a little bit happy.

Betting on Try Scorers

We can split them up. Do two. We can do. Well, we can have a big bark and a crucial. This is going to be our crucial. Yeah, I just I just wonder if we if we at least just put something on it then we you can't be disappointed Even though that doesn't really accrue, Let's do it, but you wanted him Yeah, that's a laugh there just Second laugh I follows if I was in it if I was gonna go big buff. I probably chuck in Walsh II to be honest What's he probably before he's my wife?

Yeah, that's called his last all the channel is Stiffy. That's not the rules. Gagai well you picked Gagai at $3.30 do it do it do it Gagai best Lomax at $21.50 but the story behind it, I can see him scoring it's the narrative that's a good shout he's been in some decent try scoring form for the Knights too at least the last game he played anyway scored a double and then we're doing who are we doing Holmes, Capewell Moses.

$64.50 that's pretty much a crucial and a big buck I love it Let's go. Let's just change. I'll check them on here. All right, boys, is that us? Yeah, that's us. I think it'd be us. It'd be... Lesson. I'm glad it's a decider. Ready to rip and tear. On a scale of one to ten, how confident are you as a Queenslander? I've got to go about an eight, but that's only because of the Suncorp factor.

If it was in New South Wales or a neutral, which deciders are never in neutral venues, so if it was in New South Wales, I'd be at about a five and a half, six. So we get an extra two, two and a half for the venue just because we are still Queenslanders. Yeah, we get that. I don't think you do. We are still Queenslanders and we have the spirit. You're a fuckhead. But we're still Queenslanders. Go gorilla. Yeah, but we're still Queenslanders.

If you don't have a laugh, go on the Triple M socials and just Aaron Wood just cooking Billy Slater about us. It's pretty funny, but it's a bit. Yeah, it's because we're Queenslanders. Because we're still from Queensland. Well, that's us, boys. Get around it.

Game Day Anticipation

Tune into Origin and hope it's a rip of a game because we all deserve it. And up the blues. Eww. Get a dog up here. Meow. Bye. See ya.

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