#1 The Round-Up: Flip the script

He laughed at me. Wow. Yeah, because I saw him score, and then I saw the replay before they actually sounded up online.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Monthly Crew. And we're here to talk around two, Rubber League Roundup. And we're here at the game room, Bill Vard. I'm here with Kyle and Cody. I'm coming in hot, and we're ready to fly.

How are we doing, lads? Ready to go? Oh, mate. After the weekend that was. Weekend that was. Let's get straight into it. No, I'm going to skip the games right now. Let's get to it. Boys, we got some money. We got some green tinks, but we could add a lot more. Tinks. But we hit it, boys. Our minds came together before we even looked at each other's in the eyes. We found a little lover in Brinchen to Cora, and we're like, we're going it. We're going it, and I think it's the way of the future.

We told you to get on it too. We told you to come with us. Not often that the three of these fucking single brain cells fucking clink up together. But they did. Not usually. And it was one guy who looked good, who looks hot. We're like, fuck it, let's do it. Bang. There was the weekend's money. Mate, to be honest, $3.10 on the right edge for Cronulla against that left edge of the Cowboys who just look like, I reckon the under-12s could have run through them on the week before.

I thought we got it at $3.30, my friend. No. Oh. It's never. No. But that was a good win. The slip said that he sent through. That's why I thought we got it at that. It definitely didn't. We need to touch on it. And that's our crucial, boys. Fuck me. Yeah, you just can't read. Oh, 330.

What? Yep. But our Crucial Boys. I don't know. Another. 330? Ah. I was quite dehydrated yesterday when I was in the math. But our Crucial Boys, we had another. So close, but so far. And it's not a Crucial if it's not myself who lets us down, boys. We had some good calls from you lads. Jesse Arthurs. Every week. Jesse Arthurs. Jesse Arthurs. Every week.

I just got a little bone to pick with you here, Carter, because you laughed and snide and rolled your eyes at me picking Tane Tuapiki. My guy scored. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. What did yours do? Well, I'm going to veto what you're about to say. Because it's sort of your guys' rules why our Crucials didn't get up. Because... You didn't have to pick a fuckwit from the worst team in the comp. I was more confident on Dylan Lucas scoring than I was Lomax.

But because he's more than $2.50, I can't pick him as my Crucial. So why would you pick Lomax? Because... He's playing in the centres for the eel. We've been doing this for a year and we've proven that my Crucials, I struggle. because I'm not looking at a... You picked... Hey. What about... The Eels player. What about Bradman Best? I had him on other bets and he got up. What a winner. So if you actually had to listen to the rule on the crucial,

it's what have you... The best leg from your same game multi. It's Dylan Lucas. It was my best leg. You didn't even have him. You didn't even take Zach Lomax in your same gamers. No, I don't like double dipping. Can I just say... That's the whole point of it though. Can I just say, though? If you double dip, we win. Oh, I... If you take Bradman Bass, we win. I was not even... So, how about you don't blow up at our rule and actually follow

the rule, and then you're good? I followed the rule. I sat down on $2.50. So did I, and it got up. So did I. But in saying that, I was very close. He did get over the blind and put the ball down. Yeah, off about a five-minute forward pass and obstruction.

No, no, no. It did actually happen. While we're talking, before we get into the results of the tipping, I'll just quickly go through the same game multis we had for the week, and they were horrendous. So, Jake, you started – so you had a total of nine legs for the week. You got two right. Yeah, on the first game. Yep. You had Bradman Best Anytime and the Knights to win by 11 to 20. And Caelan Pong going to score first, second, or third. So two out of three there.

Then you had the Dragons-Rabbitos game, which I'm vetoing you from any Dragons games going forward. Because currently, in Dragons games, you are now 0-6. Because again, you went Val Holmes. Again, you went Moses Suli. And Dragons to win 1-12. I'm safe. There's no Dragons game this weekend. So that's great. And then you had the Eels and Tigers. And you went 0-3 there. Because you had Dylan Brown any time. Who did go close. I have to give you that one. Twice. Adam Dewey any time.

And either team by 8 or less. Adam Dewey not fucking score trying that. But either team by 8 or less. Yeah, well. I knew I should have taken the Tigers 13 plus because the last time he took a game eight or less for either team was Anzac Day, Roosters versus Dragons, and the Roosters put 50 points. Cody, you had Panthers-Roosters. Yeah. You went 0-3 there. Isaac Tungo for second or third. I'm just viewing about the Toya one. Because I'm like, I thought they were going to get well beaten.

I'm like, he'll look good. He should get across. And even in the better team, he couldn't even score. As the better one. And Nathan Cleary went 12 points. I know. So it wasn't too far on that. Fuck, if you're going to give him Dylan Brown getting close, So I get fucking getting close for fucking 12 points and 14. Bitch ass. Nah. He could have gone more than that too because he missed fucking. He only missed one. Yeah. And it was a real good one that he should have. It was on the right wing.

Left wing. But anyway. No, it wasn't on the sideline. Thank you very much. Left edge. Definitely kickable. And then you had your hometown Broncos versus the Raiders. You started off all right. Jesse Arthur's first, second or third. Faithful. Jesse Arthur. I should just take him three separate legs to score one, to score two, and to score three. He would have got up. Wouldn't have, because he scored. He got himself a hat-trick. Yeah, but he scored the third try. No, I said.

Yeah. I know what you're saying. I should have had him for one, two, and three. Yeah. Ben Hunt, any time. Yeah, that wasn't close. I didn't like that when you said it, only because he scored last week. Even I spoke to him. I said, it's not often he does back-to-back. And then Reynolds for 12-plus points. Yeah, he probably scored two. Then myself, I had Warrior Seagulls. 2-8-2 a peak any time, money. Jason Saab, first half. He scored very early in the second. I thought that should have counted.

And Manly, minus 5.5. Gross. Yeah, that's it. I had Cowboys versus Sharks. Sam Stonestreet to score two or more. Tick. But Braden Burns got injured, and it was early in the second half. Oh, new hex. New hex, Kyle. Yeah. I didn't realize he got injured until today when I was like, oh, he only played 47 minutes. I was like, ah, bullshit. It was a chance. I was one leg again short in the Bulldogs-Titans. I was looking good early with Montoya scoring in the first half.

He scored in the first couple of minutes. And then Montoya to score two. Two minutes. I called it Connor Tracy any time. He scored his last four times against the Titans, scored again. But one leg short, Montoya did not get his second. You should have taken the first leg from each one of your multis and put it in there, and you would have fucking jagged it. Fucking oath. So, yeah, overall, boys. Shit ass. Lucky we put money on fucking Nikora. Boys, overall- Saved our week.

Yeah, we're currently, in terms of bank balance, we're plus $37.50. That's thanks to Nikora bringing us $210, which kind of shouldn't count towards that, but sure. Well, it sort of does. It definitely does. I have split them. So currently, as it stands, I've made a profit of $7.60 myself. Cody, you are negative $35.40. Mate, add on my fucking split share of fucking Nekora. So you'll break even. And Jake is minus $35.75. Do I get any positives because I actually did hit the big buck?

Yeah, that's including the big buck. Big buck champ here. Yep. So you've made, because big buck, we're only putting five bucks on them. You've made a profit of $2.25 on your big buck. Mate, well done. Well done. Loves a profit. Negative $13 on your Crucial, bud. Yeah, but it's our fault. Negative 30 on my crucial. I mean, I hit a crucial one week. Yeah, last week when I didn't. Oh! So we've hit two two-leggers now in a row? Yeah. I'm back to back, baby. Good work, Cody.

I've hit crucial back-to-back. Get around him. I don't think I've hit a big buck at all, though. No, you and I have not hit a big buck. I'm you this year. Can't hit a crucial. Can't hit a big buck. I'm me this year as well. I can't hit a big buck either. I'm two out of three on the crucial as well. Two out of three? Yeah, I hit the first week and third week. Oh, round zero? Yep. What did I do round zero? Did I get that one? No. No. I was the only one that hit round zero, then missed last week,

and then hit this week. I forgot about round zero. Yeah. So, yeah, not doing too good. Oh, well, shit happens. On to bigger and better things. That's it.

Let's get into the worst round of tipping in a long time. Oh, yeah. Worst round of tipping for a lot of people, but a great round of rugby league. And another reason why the NRL is one of the best leagues of professional sport in the world. With upsets galore. Bang, bang. Get around it. But one game that was not an upset, and that was the first round, first game of the round. And that was. That technically was an upset.

That's your first win on a Thursday night. That was a mighty night. It was an upset.

Getting the job. We were favorites, you dickhead. Never won on a Thursday night. The bookies forgot about that stat. We're at home against the shit Dolphins, and we got the job done with a mighty, lost my notes, 22-8. No. We've scored a lot more points than that. 26-12, win over the Dolpharunos. You said 28. No, it can't be that. We scored way more than that, and then went, oh, 26. He said 22. I was like, we scored more than 22. I was like, we scored more than 22. I was like, 28.

And then it started, boys. Then we got a bit... Did you want to recap? Are we just going through all the gaps? I'm going to run through then and come back. But I can not come back. No, no, go through it. You're the host, mate. You do whatever you want. And then shit started getting wild. And it started off over in Norkland. Auckland? Norkland. Norts. Norts. Maybe N's going to be my letter this podcast. Yeah, last week was ours.

No way. Oh, no. The Warriors showed up and they notched their first win in 2025 over, I'm going to repeat myself, the flat track bullies, Manly. And they won 36-16. What a game. And two of those guys were pretty damn bullshit. I did say that. I said as likely as Manly are to come out, I said the Warriors are to pump them. But none of us had the balls to tip them.

And then one of the biggest upsets in centuries, in recent history, memory, I can't remember when, we had Kyle's Little Chickens of the Roosters, 38. Came home to roost. They hold up. They held up against the Mighty Panthers, 32. Fucking big dick swinging, I tell you. Holy damn. The whole game, they were winning, and the Panthers were like, bang, we'll score, we'll score, we're going to win. And no. We'll obviously get to that a bit later. The Roosters got the job done.

I need to. I definitely need. I've been saving a lot for this. Brian Toto scores that every other round this year. Yes. Then let's get to the Saturday games of football. We had some crackers here. We had our first one-point game, and it was the Rabbits with a little hop over the Dragons, winning 25-24. 15 points. Thank you to the rig. Came back. Wowza, the rig. The rig. He's locking in that jersey, I think. Because they can't take it off him. Yes, they can't. They have to paint it on

every week. They have to get a new jersey every week because they've got to cut it off him. His abs cut it because of the sharpness. With some of these teams losing and coming up, we thought it might be the same, but no, the Cowboys looked shit again. Looked very bad. But like I said, the Sharks, they're a good team. I still didn't think the halves really... No, I didn't actually watch this game, so I'm not sure. But the Sharks won 36-12 and pumped the Cowboys.

Oh, Toddy Payton. I think I'm going to have to bring a couple of boys up back up into first grade this week. Yeah, great choice, brother. And on Saturday night, we had a red-hot game here and the Raiders, have they turned the stone of showing up every week? One guy who didn't show up was Reece Walsh and the Raiders won 32-22 over the Broncos. Kyle with the late change fucking perfection on that one. And then there was another team who also did not look any better.

No, really shit. And that's Parramatta Eels. And the Parramatta Seals got absolutely demolished by the West Tigers. A little bit of energy, a little bit of clawing. They're looking good in this game anyway, but it was against Eels. Tigers. Tigers, 32-6. Pumped them. And then the final game of the round, it was the new look... Well, first look at the Gold Coast Titans who, they look like they're going to be the same team.

Can score a fucking try and a point and look good, but can't defend to save their life. And the Doggies with a big 40-24 over at Belmore Stadium, which looked fucking cool as. It looked fun, but some big injuries for the Doggies, so that could hurt moving forward. So that was the round that was. And I'm going to keep talking because I'm on a roll. And we're going to go back up to the game of the round.

And boys I've got some touching things about Newcastle here boys and I know you don't really want to listen to me but you have to admit we looked so much better than round one we're looking like we're gelling already much better our tack was on and I think and if we keep winning he's not going to change it but our halves are looking really good and I think it's mostly got to do with Sharp and Ponga they're like they're just working together so well they're not getting

each other's way, which I was worried about, and they're like taking turns at playing 5'8 second receiver and just popping up at the right time. And it could be because Cog is just doing his thing. Just kicking the ball, staying in the middle of the field, and doing what he's supposed to be doing. So, are you essentially telling us that we're right?

No. So, this thing that we've been saying all along, that your team just needs a halfback that just kicks to corners, does his job, and lets the ball play. No, you haven't. I have. You fucking don't, you don't like Cog. I don't like Cog, but he's doing his job. That's all you need. You don't need a Dylan Brown. He's not going to be able to do his job last year. He's doing it this year so far. Because he gets dropped every second fucking week. That's not my fucking fault.

Mate, seriously. We've been saying that and just saying that if you just stick with Cogger, he will just lead you around, kick you to corners, and give Ponga and Sharp the ball when they need it. Even if you had it just stuck with Jackson Hastings. Just someone that can, you know, get a team around. Instead of going, you know what, we're going to have two weeks of Hastings. That didn't work. We're going to go two weeks of Gamble as halfback.

We had a lot longer than Hastings and he got into Jogger. And again, Cogger is perfect for that team. Cogger is perfect for that team. You did not need to go and sign Dylan Brown. You get a bloke fresh out of the Panthers system who just won a comp and would obviously have a fair bit of knowledge and was learning off Nathan Cleary, possibly the best halfback to ever play the fucking game. Of course he's not. Dylan Brown fucking hard. He couldn't kick the skin off a custard.

Dylan Brown can't even kick the ball like Cogger. Dylan Brown just got signed for 1.3 million and came out there and went, I'm only a six. Because I can't play seven. And it's openly that they've signed him as a seven. And he went, I'm improving. Yep. I'll be the best that I can. Again, we're talking about round two of football, boys. So I'm really sick of this shit because, again, I'm not the coach and I'm not the fucking CEO. I don't make decisions, boys. Sounds like you do.

Did we want to, just to break up the chat, do we want to recap how we tipped for the week? Yes, because we didn't do that. We were just talking about money before. Just quickly, what I want to add in is, Because, like you said, last week, everyone was like, you know, we might as well play the finals now. It's fucking, you know, the top four teams have separated themselves. Everyone else is just playing for the spoon. And then this week. We tried to avoid that, Chad, and we did.

We did well. You've got the Storm. Obviously, you know, they got the bye, though. But then the Doggies, because we know they're going to win the comp. Yeah. So that was a lock-in. But fucking Raiders, Knights, Rabbitohs are the three teams that have won both their games. I don't reckon there's a single person out there that would have picked them to be the only three teams, including the dogs. I had four of those top teams in my top eight. So I'm happy with that so far.

Yeah, but that's only the only teams. The only reason why the Rabbitohs are still there is because you couldn't change them. Yes.

It's the same for all of us. Yes. We've all got the Rabbitohs at eight. We couldn't drop them out. Couldn't get rid of them. And they've got the rig himself who's going to fucking carry them. He's got the shoulders to do it. Boys. But yes, before we keep talking, how do we go with our tips, Kyle? I know they're great. Just as good as our bets, really. Carter, you started off all right. You had three points after the first night because you got the Knights, the Knights, and Bradman Best.

Cody and I went Dolphins, Dolphins, Safiti, and Farnworth. So we were on zero. Duck eggs. But then it went downhill fairly quickly for you, Jake, because you took the Sea Eagles with the Warriors line. That's a point. Panthers, Panthers. And then your try score is with Barnett and McLean. So another point. You then took Dragons, Dragons, Gutherson, Sharks, Cowboys, and we all took Nakora, Broncos, Broncos, Tigers, Eels, Titans, Titans.

Yep, great. Yeah, well done from you. For a total of? I did have that mathed up before. He skipped my trisorers. I don't hit any more trisorers either for the week. He said he stopped that. Sorry, you had Walsh, funny one, Dewey and Kinney. Who do you have? Oh, yeah. What do you have? Gutho and... Yeah, he did not crash over, did he? No, he didn't. I double-checked that. He had a try assist. Yeah, he had a really good try assist.

Cody, so after... From the Friday night, you also went Seagull Seagulls. Yep. You went Panthers Roosters. And then you had Garrick and Totto to score. So you got one point for the try scorers on the Friday night. And I got one point for the Rooters. And then one point for the Rooters. Scrape that one in. Yeah, barely. But you took rabbits, sharks, and Broncos on the Saturday night.

I took the Broncos. But you got a point in the Broncos game because you got Rabbitohs, Sharks, and Raiders on the spread. And your trial scorers were Hubner, Nickerah, and Arthurs. So three points there, buddy. Not bad. Arthurs never lets me down. Then on the Sunday, you took the Tigers and the Dogs and, And the Tigers and the Titans with the line. What was the line for the Titans game? Eight and a half. Doggies covered.

And then you had Coruscant and Khan Pereira. So you still got a point there. Khan Pereira, good on him. And then myself took Dolphins. What was that a total of? Mate, I didn't... I'll start that from next week. I haven't got the round total just automatically locked. I just do overall. But I can fix that. We don't want to have a total. Yeah, I was hoping I'd do what my total was there. I can fix that. I'll have that for you for next week. Can I have it for me now? No.

Wait, we'll just pause here. Work on the sheets, mate. Yeah, look, I didn't think you wanted round-by-round totals, but I can do that. I was going to know how much I pumped in by. You've been pretty close. Well, just listen to what you had last week and then minus that from today's total. Let me just put my headphones in. You might have got me by two points, I reckon. I folded you. Yeah. Anyway. I had you by at least six. So I took... We don't need to worry about what I took.

Overall, boys. Oh, you don't want to raid through yours you did that bad? Nah, I didn't do too bad. I did better than Jake. So, uh, I got seagulls, seagulls and Panthers roosters and then took Saab and Cleary on the Friday night, Saturday night, I took dragons, sharks and Raiders and then had dragons, Cowboys, Raiders for the line, Val Holmes, Nicaru and Cobbo. So only the one point for the try score is on Saturday. And then you had Nicaru and Cobbo.

We all got three. Oh, that's fine. Well, I was not including Nicaru because we'd already clarified that we all took Nicaru. But you still got points for him. I did, yes. All right. Calm down, bud. See what happens? Yeah. And then I took the Tigers and Bulldogs and Tigers. I got full points on the Sunday. But I had... Three try scorers. I missed out on Jerome Luai, but I got Marcelo Montoya. Montoya. So, overall, ladies and gentlemen, Cody is first. I'm taking the lead. With 30 points.

You've got nine tips correct. Correct. You're doing well with the line. You're 11 of 16. 11 of 16 for the line. Overall, yeah. And any time try-scorers, you've had a potential 25 points and got 10. So, yeah, 30 points total for you. Because I'm not venturing into the middle too much. Because like Lockie Hoobner. You're exploring more than Jake. Because Jake has had a potential of 23 points from try-scorers and has got a total of 6. What are our totals, sorry?

I'm 30. You're 30. I'm second with 29. I am 30. You are 30, and I'm 29. You're 29. Jake? 24. Jake is on 23. So Jake's actually got the most tips right. He's 10 out of it. See, he's bullshit out. I love how- We changed it. He's changed. Like, he voted as well to change it to try and help him out, and if we were just going based purely on tips, he would be in the lead. He'd be winning, yes. So he's got one more point than me in both head-to-head and line,

but I've got 14 points for any time dry scorers out of potential 26. Jesus. Because you jagged fucking AFB early. I'm two out of three on three-point plays because I've got Harry Grant. That was a great shout from you, to be fair. You went Appy this week and you went Lahabna this week, so that hurt you.

Yeah. Cody. So stuck around me. Jake's taking a whole bunch of backs from this because he's averaging, yeah, he's got a total of a potential of 23 points, so the lowest and has scored the lowest amount of points. So technically kind of like the highest chance and still not jagging them. Yeah. So, yeah, Jake, again, you're last. That's so funny. By the most tips. But the thing is, though, with this format, if you just get a front rower plus the head-to-head plus the

line, that's five points, you know? Bang, bang, baby. Yes. All right, boys, can we talk about it? Let's talk about Newcastle a little bit longer. No. No. You've had your chance, you're done. Bye. Cut the stream. Every time we talk about him, you start abusing Kyle and I for talking sense. Because you just bring up Dylan Brown and talk shit. When we're fucking, that's next year, dickhead. Well, that's your team. Well, wait until next year.

Yeah. Next year is going to be the reason why Ponga leaves your ass the year after. Yeah, he's coming to the roosters, man. Quick touch, though. Newcastle's defense is looking good. We've only let three tries in, so that's a quick little tidbit. But we are maybe going to be tested this week because Leo Thompson's out injured and KPP's out suspended. So it's a little bit of depth to our forwards, so that's going to maybe hurt.

But Adam Elliott did look good coming back. Oh, you got a fucking ready-made lock, ready to come straight back into the team. I'm feeling right. Yeah, but Jackson Hastings. He might come in, he might get a chance. Yeah, but it probably helps if you're versus an actual decent attacking team to test out your defense. Well, we're versus Goldcrow's this week. If you're versus the Tigers in week one, who had growing pains, they looked red-hot, but it was against the Eagles this week.

I'll tell you what, just the addition of Appy Coruscant and Dureen Buller, their attack looked special. But they're versus the Eagles, who look like they don't give a fuck. I don't get it. Jason and I was like, we don't really care if we win right now. We're just trying to try some new things and new plays. Dylan Brown was better this week than last week. Well, I hope so. He's fucking nearly $13 million. Their forward pack in the reserve team was

more experienced and NRL ready than their forward bench in this one. What? Anyway. They're in more of a rebuild than the Roosters. Are they? What makes you say that, Kyle? Mate, I'll tell you. Righto, Kyle. Can I? Yeah, all right. I was going to say, can I just, first question, are you back? Last week, we all accepted that they were probably gone. You nearly didn't even watch the game this week, last week.

And now, it's probably going to be worse for you because you're going to see a little bit of glimmer. And now you're back on your normal ride on the roller coaster. As I said last week, I was loving it after we got pumped. Well, I wasn't loving it, but it was the relief after being pumped by the Broncos thinking, fuck, I don't have to worry about this season. You're like, I can actually just sit back and enjoy a season of rugby league.

So watching the game on Friday night, I was sitting there watching it after I jokingly said I was just not going to watch it and go to bed. Glad I didn't do that. But even at 24 all, I was like, nah, whatever, the Panthers are going to win this, it doesn't matter. And then we scored a go up 28-24 and I was like, this is just set up perfectly for a fucking Nathan Cleary conversion with a minute to go to win the game. Or they're going to just put 15 points on us out of nowhere.

And then when Sandin Smith got that long-range try, that's when he had it. I was like, they've given me hope. He's got some motor on him. Fucking oath, mate. And in the last 14 minutes, man, you would have been shitting bricks. They got so close. Man, I was sitting on the couch, and I guess the air con was affecting me a little bit because I was shivering. I was sort of shaking a little bit. When they sent old mates to the sin bin, I was like, get fucked.

I was blowing up. When I seen when the Panthers were down 14 and they took that penalty goal to go within 12, I thought, ah, here we go. Panthers are going to do it again. They take the penalty goal. They'll get the things. Cleary will kick a fucking two-point field goal from somewhere. And then he missed the next kick. So they're still down by eight. But then lo and behold, they get another penalty. And then Toto scores that try every other game of the year.

He just missed his assignment. He missed his assignment. I think Luke Garner should have scored, but he just didn't drop on the ball. Luke Garner on the left side, if he scored that try. When? Like right at the end. Like the last minute, last two minutes of the game. Oh, yeah, right. I don't, mate, I was just too fucking. It was red hot.

But to answer your question, yes, we're back. Mate. Did they play like that every week? Where was that last week? That's what I don't get. They played so different. They look like a whole different team out there. Mate, and I want to hear all the critics asking for, that were asking for Robbo to be sacked last year.

Where are they now? Yeah, I've seen a few people come out and go, you know, that's probably one of the better coaching performances from him to get a team that was that far behind to get up for the game. Because everyone does say that he's a fair-weather coach and he's only been good because of the players he's had. But this season could really prove his credentials and show everyone that it wasn't just because he's had good players and, you know, fucking $4 million extra a year to buy his team.

Yeah, okay. But do they all forget about that first season he came into the NRL and he won the championship? Yeah, but he was riding the coattails with the coach before. Oh, Brad Filler who won us a spoon. Fuck yeah, that's great. Fucking, oh man, these blokes have short memories, eh? All they remember that year is a team he got. Hey? All they remember that year is a team that he got given. Sonny Bill. Sonny Bill, Kronk, Teddo, Teddy. Kronk? Didn't have fucking Kronk in 2013? Well, didn't he?

I don't think he was getting laughter. That's what was going on, shit. Kronk was in 18-19, bro. 18-19, what? That's how much he does not like the Roosters. You know Trent Robinson's been our coach for like 12 years, right? No, but yes. He's talking about the 2013 comp. You know that because you said Sonny Bill. He's the first coach. Corner. Basically one of the first coaches he had to win the comp on his first year.

And it was also one of the first times that a team's gone from spoon to fucking champion. It was Sonny Bill. I don't even think we had Sonny Bill that year. Definitely. Oh, it was his first year back. Yeah, it was his first year. Because he came back, won it, and then that was it. But yes, we are back, and I hope we verse the night soon. So I feel sorry for you and your blood pressure now.

Yes. I was feeling good for you. You're going to have a nice, relaxed year, and now you will be back on that roller coaster. Yes, because now I've got expectations. Terrible. Terrible. Though our defense is still a little... Well, I actually, contrary to the scoreline. Mary, Mary. Conceding 32 points. I felt like our defense was a lot better, barring that first try.

The first try was fucking horrendous. And I actually kind of think that was Trent Robertson's ploy, was to let an absolute piss easy try in first early, just so the Panthers go, fuck this is going to be easy. Yeah. So great coaching by Trent Robertson there. Full sense of security. But our defense is, the kryptonite is still the kick in behind. We can't fucking defend that. We've never been able to defend it. I don't know what the fucking issue is.

We can't, we diffuse obviously the high kicks out to the wings, but the kicks to the middle and the little dinks in behind, we can't fucking get them. Because three out of those five tries we conceded. It's because Teddy's so about defending in the line and he does such a good job at it. I think he just gets a little bit behind. But then up against Panerais 2, who have the best short kicking game, well, clearly he does anyway. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I think a big eye-opener in this game was your Roosters forward pack and bench. All these blokes, other Nengis Crichton, are fucking young as shit. Were you impressed by some of these boys? Mate, a lot of people were surprised by Nafu White. I wasn't. I think he's an absolute fucking gun. And I honestly think he should be starting at front row over Spencer Lenu because he gives us just that drive straight up. and then we can have Lenu come off

the bench with the aggression. Because Nafu Watt isn't aggressive. He just fucking plays hard. And he can play big minutes. He does his job. And when you've got Lindsay Collins out there, you don't need – he can be the aggressor. He's the front rower for Queensland, so he can go and get it, right? But some of these other young fellas, like Fiketti at lock, apart from him missing his assignment on that first try where he bought the slightest dummy I've ever

seen in my life, he looked red hot. He was mobile. He's pretty hot too. So Wong is one of his best games at FAQ. I have to admit, Siwa Wong on the edge looked red hot. Did rate it. This is that I like that this is why he's given them the chance. This is why he hasn't gone out and signed anyone yet. He's going, righto, you fellas want to play. You fellas want to be in this team.

Give me a fucking... If they don't get this chance, if they're at any other club and they just buy a few players in, they probably don't get this chance. But he's given them a chance to go, righto, who wants to stand up? Because come next year or come this year, we're going to fucking be signing a few players. We're going to spend some money, so. So you need to fucking prove that you want to be in a team. And they're all fucking standing up. Yeah, fucking mate.

They were talking to Crichton because he's fucking one of the senior boys now. He said, did you call them in? And he's like, yeah. No one's coming to help us, boys. We need to rip in and have a crack. Yeah. And after they got pumped by the Broncos forward pack. Sorry, Jake. All good. The Broncos forward pack is probably one of the toughest ones. In the comp, and they've got barreled by them, and the way they turn around

then, and then give it back to the Panthers forward pack. I was going to say, the Panthers forward pack is no fucking slouch, so. Oh, no, definitely not. They don't have the size of the Broncos. No. But they've got the experience and know how to work together, and they just did it all over them. Oh, man. It was incredible to see. A little shout out to the rookie, Hugo Savali. He looks like a fucking unit, too. He's a halfback. Yeah, he looks awesome. I mean, it looks massive and six foot

three or something. I was like, that's a fucking big half, man. Yeah, it was good. But no, it was fucking, it was an awesome game to watch. And yeah, good on the Roosters getting to win. Shit, like, it makes me hard that Daniel Tubo got, it doesn't make me hard. Sorry. I find it. I was like, where's he going with this? No, no, no. When you started, I was like, yep. And then you said Tubo. I was like, well. No, no, no.

Like, in terms of making me hard, Sanderson Smith, fuck me. I finally had himself a game. Oh, mate. That's just a little taste. I think my band of match was Marky Mark. He's looking like he could play rugby league. I tell you what. His little plays, his little offloads, his little lines. We have unearthed the next best center in the rugby league. Oh, he's going early. Mate, that's his third game of rugby league. He's hot. Did you see some of the stuff he did there?

He played when I was 15. He used to be playing off the cuff, though, because he plays, what is it, nines or sevens or whatever the fuck it was? Yeah, but still, like, it's still. So he's got the offload. He's got the thing. He's got the space. It's probably the same as with Ponga and them playing touch. They're quite evasive. Yeah. So it's good to see. But, yeah, for three games in. Sneaky pot and super coach, if you want to. Got him.

Ooh. Got him in draft. As much credit as Daniel Tupo deserves for that tri-save, because it was fucking great, and Daniel Tupo is not known for his tri-saving ability. Ah, shoulder charge, bro. He tackles like Ponga. No, he doesn't use his head. That's Tedesco. Yeah. He, fuck it. Did you guys not see the play he missed? Where Marky Mark looked at him like, what the fuck are you doing when he was about 30 metres behind the play? Brother, I seen someone taking the piss out of Marky Mark for it.

Because they went, what's going on here? Who's this bloke passing to? And I thought, ah, Daniel Tupo missing an assignment again. The amount of times Kyle brings it up and goes, where the fuck was he? We were making a break. We need one more pass. And he's fucking two plays behind because he's fucking tying his shoe lace up after the last play. That was perfect. The past was perfect, flat, right where it needs to be. If he's charging onto that. Oh, man.

I was like, as soon as it happened, I was like, where the fuck is he? He wasn't even in the picture. No. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, brother. And then I was like, yeah, typical. And then I was getting too invested again. I was like, fuck this. I was like, I hate my life. I liked it when I didn't care. Yeah. One year of not having to care about Tubo. Now I fucking hate him again. I don't know about you, but this shook pen's getting fucking full of shit. So let's go over to the stable.

Let's go to the stable. Did you not expect that? Did you not expect it? What? I'm surprised. Hey, credit where credit's due. I enjoyed it. I'm just thinking. Credit where credit's due. I've got a timer over there, mate. Jake even fucking joined in on that chat. Thank you. I did. He even brought up the young fellas and he actually fucking died in. Normally, he fucking vanishes. Jade's not here. Yeah. It's time to go to the stable, Cody.

He's probably messaging Jake going, you weren't here to get me away. Do we have to talk about this game? Yeah, we do. And I'm here. Should get James on to talk about it. Because honestly, the only thing I enjoy more than the Roosters winning is the fucking Broncos losing. So what was worse? What was the biggest difference? How good, how shit the Roosters were around one to how good they were this round? Or was it how good the Broncos were around one to how shit they were this game?

They just. They didn't look like they wanted it. Raiders, the Raiders 100%, like, 100% came out and punched them in the face. Like, what? Papali, he's getting on. He's getting old. You know what I mean? But every now and again, he gets him up and he goes, fuck, boys. You want me to have one back the clock 10 years? He had like 15 runs and a try in that first half. It was fucking ridiculous.

He just, every now and again, he just goes, calm, boys. I'll show you who is the fucking premier prop round here. He loves having big games up against the Broncos too, I'm sure. Well, I think any time they're, especially like the Raiders, like Kyle said last week, and I did agree with him. Every time the Raiders are fucking absolutely thrown out, they just turn around and go, oh, you want to see this? No tarpity, no savage. And they just get the job done.

Want to see me do it again? And the Broncos, it's like they went after the first round, they got their fucking big heads again. And Reece Walsh, fuck me if he should not be sitting on the pine with bloody Ezra Mann. That was, he couldn't even hold the ball. Down the left side, he threw a bounce pass to the fucking touchy. It was just one off the ruck, one off the scrum. Reynolds just give it to him, dropped it. And then there was one, he was just a support play for Cobbo, dropped it.

He had four errors. He had four tackles, four missed tackles, so just zero, basically. He had four errors. He just didn't look any good. I'm sick of him fucking running aside. I understand he's quick, and if he gets on the outside, he will burn players. But he's leaving no one else with any room to do anything. He just runs straight across field and everyone's standing there going, do I drop under him or not?

Because last year, the wingers would drop under him. He'd throw a fucking pass into the first row and look at the winger like, where the fuck did you go? Yeah. Well, this one, his threes weren't going front row. They're going straight down. And then there was one too where they swept around and he was way too close to Shibasaki or Shibasaki.

And there was clearly a face ball because it was a meter in front of, Walsh and he sticks his hand out to try and grab it and it touches it and then it goes to Shibasaki so it's a knock on it's like brother like you don't need to be in everything you have hunt now you have let's just pick your times he's trying to do it all the time he needs to sort of pull it back and just pick his times like when they say about with Tedesco when he's in a team

that he feels like he needs to do everything, he plays worse than when he just picks his times and just, I'll run it now, I'll do this now. Whereas that's what Walsh needs to do. Just inject yourself at the right times. But it's still that. I think it... Hold the fucking balls. The one off the scrum, I fucking near on through my remote at the TV. It was dead set, just one off. Here you go. I didn't get... It definitely didn't look like it. Spit it out, brother.

Ben Hunt and Adam Reynolds, It's like they try to let Walsh for the first 20 minutes in each half to be the man. And then as soon as they're like, no, he's shit, let's do it. They took over and they just scored the tries and put them on the try. So I don't know. I feel like they should have realized earlier that Walsh was having a shit game. Yeah, but. Let's be the guys. At the same time, like if you're Reynolds and Hunt who have got bulk experience at halves.

Right. Obviously not together, but just individually. And like, I just don't understand why you would even, Walsh needs to play third fiddle. Oh, absolutely. If he takes a backward step and lets Reynolds and Hunt run the offense and he just chimes in where he needs to, as Cody touched on, if he just starts to do like a James Tedesco, pop up where he's needed, not give me the ball, I'll show you what I can do. Pop up where he needed. And then if he just plays that support role.

Yeah. If he's a last pass and someone gives him the offload through the ruck, he's got that much speed, he's gone. We don't need his speed running sideways on a back play. We need it, you know, cut it out to Cobbo. Cobbo inside ball to Walsh. No one's catching him. Like they need to go, I think they need to go the reverse. So like lead with Reynolds and Hunt. And if it's not clicking for them, then go, Walsh, here, do something.

I almost think in some ways, and I was talking to Shan Bracken about this yesterday, and she said it's almost like Ben Hunt needs to be at the back. Walsh draws in here and gives it to Ben Hunt so Ben Hunt can throw that last pass. Because he can throw a great last pass. He's got great options. When you give it to Walsh, you never know what's going to happen. He's either going to try and go himself and slip over or he's going to throw it over the sideline.

And I mean, and the forward pack didn't really aim up. I mean, Payne Haas' weapon, Paddy Carrigan, but I just, the Raiders definitely outdid us through the forwards. See, I think Shibasaki is a fair weather player. He looks good when we look good, but he's not there to do the tough stuff. And he was a shell of himself in a game where we weren't doing anything. Cobbo, I love seeing Cobbo on the wing. He looks like he's got it.

He's going in there for tough runs. He was like, I thought he was good. Dean Mariner, how he wasn't going to be in the round one team until Staggs got injured is beyond me. He's an absolute weapon. A bit unlucky with the double movement.

The double movement to me, it was good on the first bounce. If he had kept it right next to his head, momentum gets him there, but he reaches that little bit and then he slides forward more and the ball ends up back to where it was before he reached out anyway, so he probably could have got there. And I reckon the Cobbo try, if there was a half frame, it's a try.

Because the way that he put the ball down, it's on an angle, so it has to hit the in goal first, but it's either in the air or on the line. They didn't have that half frame in between. And if the ref calls it a try and you go simultaneous, we don't know, is it not a try? If they can't, if the ref gives a no try, then yep.

But if he gives it a try and there isn't enough evidence to overturn it, is it not a try? Not if it's simultaneous for the ball going out, so that means it's out simultaneously. Yeah, but they don't know. What is it? They're saying it's simultaneous. No, but they're saying that there is enough evidence to overturn it. Yeah. That's a try to me. It's the fucking two for Manly with tries.

That's a try. I had another mate in Broncos fan. He's like, if it was that Suncorp, they would have had more cameras and it would have been a try. Bringing money into it. Yes. There's more cameras. Fucking hell. And see, this is the exact reason why I don't like Broncos fans. Absolute dribble. They've got some theories. So you reckon those tries for Manly? No. No, no. I'm talking about what he said. Oh, yeah. His mate is a Broncos fan and said if it was at Suncorp, they had more cameras.

That's what I'm talking about. Ask for more cameras is ridiculous. I was like, brother, come on. Get off it. No, and I don't think those tries for Manly were a try. That Saab one, I can see how they got to the one for Cherry Evans. But I did think his toe was touching the line. I thought it was just short, and then it grazed the line as he was lifting it. It was all good, but as he brings it up and drags it through, his hand was still in contact.

But after the Saab one, they went to the back angle, and you could see the ball come away from his hand. And I'm like that. Because I didn't see that angle. So when you were saying about it, I thought that one was more a try than the other one because the only angles I've seen, I must have looked away quickly when they had the back angle. They only shot it once.

I was like, technically, that was back in the days. Remember when they'd slow it right down and there'd be a fucking pinky on the ball, and they'd go, oh, yep, that's grounded. And you're like, but he's completely lost it. He's lost control. So I was like, in that one, I'm like, oh, you know, if you pause it and the ball's on the ground, his hand's still on it. I didn't see the one where it come away. So I was like, that's more of a try

than the dead ball line. But then the other one, Garrick was probably nearly fucking offside. They didn't check that. And Cherry Evans was just as close to the dead ball line when he caught it. They didn't even check that. I know. They just looked at Garrick's foot. It was clearly out and went, ah, try to confirm. I was like, if Manly win. Yeah, well, this is good chat to my winner of the round. So I was just mid-sentences now, are we? Oh, I thought it was a finish, I was going to say.

Nah, it was a comma. It was a comma, not a full stop. No, because I was going to say, if Manly won that game... The Warriors have been threatening the fucking riot for a lot of years. The fans would have gone nuts if they'd lost that game on those two tries being awarded. Yeah. So bang, it's my winner of the round. And that was the Warriors.

The Warriors and also the NRL. Because we all listened to this game on the radio and everyone was saying these two tries were definitely no tries. And I was like, if somehow now the Warriors lose this game, I'm like, there's going to be a right. Because so many times New Zealand, like it's always us. We always get all the shit calls. So I was so happy the Warriors played so fucking good, won this game.

Fuck Manly. I thought. And it sounds like, compared to last week, the Warriors just sound like they just played so much better. Everyone was doing what they were expected to do. The fours were all running really hard, doing well, and the hearts were just running, doing their thing, controlling the game. And then RTS on the wing killed it to a peak. He played so much better. And their fullback, C&K, did what he's supposed to do. Well, see, I thought Roger had a pretty terrible...

50 minutes. Oh, okay. Yeah, the first half and a bit, he made a couple of non-Roger errors, just doing silly things. Characteristic. Yeah, basically. And I actually did think that they were going to overturn his try too, because he did promote. I thought it was a dumb movement. He got over the line, but he promoted it initially to get it to the line. And I was like- Yeah, I think they give him better than the doubt. If you promote, but you're like where the ball would have been,

gets over the line. Yeah. Yeah, but I just know previous years. If you promote and then your waist gets across the line. It was one of these ones. It was like he just rotated that little bit to get it there. And I know in previous years they've changed that call to double movement. If they're going to keep it that way this year, that's fine. But that was just after the Saab try. And I was like, fuck, they call this a no try. I was like, shit's about to get real weird. They probably had to.

Yeah. They probably had to. It was like, hey, mate, I need you to just keep that try. Yeah, this needs to be a try after the Saab one. Yeah. Of course, very happy for the Warriors. and now it looks like it's going to be a good game next week with the Warriors versus the Roosters over there. Yeah, it's going to be, I'm nervous. I think I was going two weeks ago. I was like, I don't give a fuck. But yeah, now I'm like, oh, this could be tough. It's going to be a tough win.

Any other teams or winners or losers you want to touch with? Yeah, I've got a winner. It's a loser for the Roosters, but a winner for the Tigers. Terrell May, in 35 degree heat, played 65 minutes straight in the middle and just absolutely fucking towed up. Mate, there was one. It would have been like the 50-something minute, the 60th minute. He's been on there, obviously, going at it in the heat. He takes his fucking hit up off the back fence, goes fucking bink,

bink, bink, bink, bink, throws a fucking offload. They go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then guess who's there on the next fucking play? They play the ball and that motherfucker goes, give it to me again. And just backed it up and had another crack and went just as hard as he did in the first one. No offload, quick play the ball. And I thought... And that's going to give the rest of the team that, all right, let's go with him. Yeah. Have a look at what he's doing here.

We've got to get in there and rip in.

Fucking oath. But that, yeah, that was a winner for me. And just rugby league in general. Script writers did well this week. Especially from last week when everyone was saying, you know, the top four has already been separated. So now this week going, fucking anybody can beat anybody. The script writers couldn't help Parramatta or the Cowboys, though. Mate. Are these clubs dead? Are they going to win any games coming up? For those clubs to be helped, they need the act of God. Yeah.

I can tell you right now, Toddy Payton will be nervous. Like, at least, yeah. See, Todd Payton's probably in a world. Like, Jason Riles has taken over this team, and he's obviously trying to imprint a new identity on the Eels. Yeah, Riles has got time. So it's going to take some time. Payton, Payton. Been there for a few years. He's had some glimpse of good things.

They've made finals, and now they're just suddenly not – maybe they're not showing up for him, and that's usually the first thing that happens. Yeah, they lose the playing group. And you feel sorry for the ones like Tommy did, and he gives his absolute all every single week. He's got a drink. I think those three guys are still playing really well. Drink water's getting held back. It's just hard when you don't have a forward pack. Just don't have any ticker.

They're dropping origin back rowers and then going, oh, we need to bring players back the very next week. And then they fall into versing the Brisbane Broncos and the 4X2 over this week at Suncorp. Yeah, and knowing the Broncos, they'll probably lose. Oh. Cabos will do us. Nah, see, I feel like if you had Kevi Walters as your coach still, I'd be a little worried as a Broncos fan. But I feel like after the drop in that game to the Raiders, Madge is going to

fucking rip them. I like the way Madge said it, though. Madge took full credit for the loss. He won't do it any time. I don't think he'll do it many more times. No, well, like he said, well, it's only... So when you're winning, you don't really learn much. You just go, how good? But like he said, he goes in that second game with the loss, he learns a lot because you can see how people react. You see what they do when they're under pressure, when they're losing.

And he can address that this week and no different range to pull and different things to do. Oh, we're behind on points. Don't give it to fucking Walsh. Easy. Keep me out of the fucking play. Hey, buddy, we're running down the right side. Quickly get around there. Left. Man, just be on the right side of me here just as an option. Left. We're going down the left, Walsh. Right. Jesse Arthurs. Hunt Jesse Arthurs. That's all we need to run. Or Adam Reynolds, cross-field kick, Jesse Arthas.

Yeah, so Ben Hunt, you don't have Lomax this year. You've got Jesse Arthas. Jesse Arthas. Jesse Arthas. That's what? He scored fucking four tries, and I think three of them are from Hunt. Unreal. Glad I got him in Supercoach. The best. I've only been talking him up for a decade. Oh, no, Ben Hunt, not Arthur. Oh. Might have to get him in this week. You've got to love it. I think that's it, boys. Any losers? No losers?

Outside of them. I think the Bulldogs are a bit of a loser. They've had a good win, but they have lost Burton and Kikau, two of their biggest recruits. So it's going to test their depth, and I don't know where they're going. They're bringing possibly the best second rower into the starting line-up now. But they're halves. I'm a bit worried about they're halves. They've got Drew Hutchinson. Hutchinson, baby. Yeah, I think it was Hutchinson.

He's definitely more of a six than he is a seven. Fucking oath he is, yes. If Sexton went down and you had to play Hutchinson, I'd be a little bit nervous. But they're both right-hand dominant players, so that's going to be interesting. Toby Sexton can play left. He can play both sides. He's a halfback. You'll have to try. Would you go to the Crichton, the six, and another center of wing? No way. No. No. No.

Who else have they got center wing? They even tried doing that for the last 20 minutes at half, and then they started getting teared up on that left edge, and they're like, no, Crichton, you go back to that right. No, they need Crichton in the centers for his defense. Yeah, for the defense, man. Absolutely. So I don't think they're doing that. I reckon, yeah, like, Toby Sexton will just have to stand up and lead them. I don't reckon they lose too much in the back row.

Because they've got a lot of utility players. They've got a lot of depth in the back row, front row, like middle rotations. Like, they're not going to lose much there. No. And it helps that they've got Parramatta this round, so that really helps. Oh, so they'll only win by 40, not 70. Yeah. That defense. Just a little sneaky one, though, on the Tigers. I think that they've got the best defense through two rounds of teams that have played two games.

Are they? Well, they conceded 10 points against the Knights and six against the Eels. They've conceded, yeah. If they hadn't have scored... What have you guys conceded? 16. It's the same. Same as East. Oh, no. We're 18, sorry. 12 and 6. Yeah. 12 and 6. So they do. They're 10 and 6. Dude, Tigers. I said they'd play two games. They looked a bit messy last week, and obviously they got beat in the second half to lose the game. But their defense still looked good against the Knights.

Oh, yeah. But the attack just looked so good. If they're attacking like that, and how they were with just off the cuff, throwing it around, dream baller out of his own end, everyone just showing nice speed pace. That was after the first 30 minutes. Sorry, because the first 30 minutes of that game was absolutely terrible. So after the first 30 minutes. Once they woke up and went ham, and it starts clicking, you go, this is round two.

They can stay healthy, stay on the park. Yeah. It looks really good. I think they just decided that, oh, our right edge is really good too. Let's use both edges, and it fucking was so much better. Yeah. I'm happy they didn't do that against Newcastle, because it could have been a bit different. They just tried to go left the whole game. Well, it was a bit easier. But if they didn't concede that try at the end to the Eels, they would have had three halves of football with no points.

But, man, just the dream baller in wep and Galvin looking so good. I hope all the chat of him leaving goes away because they could really, really start something here. And then it throws out, like I said, people have actually gone to one of the shitter clubs and if they can drag them back out of the cellar, maybe some more players, you won't have all the good players going to the good teams. You might get them to go, hey.

We're sure if Newcastle's happening. Let's all go here, like with Bulldogs. Bulldogs, Newcastle, and now the Tigers, hopefully. What did Newcastle win? What? It's been hard to fucking win, mate. We're just trying to get better and fucking go with the comp. Fuck me, Dad. But you know what the funny thing is? It's the Panthers players going away because the Panthers players and the coach went over to the fucking Bulldogs, and now they're good.

Now fucking Panthers players are going over to the fucking Tigers. Now they're good. Bloody Panthers players just going out there and just stringing their little fucking web. Yep. Little bit of fucking Bennett sprinkles. All right, are we done? I think that's it. Cut the string. What a round of football. Let's get around it. Cut the string. Cut the string. Fuck the dogs. I thought you were about to say...