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Bonus preview episode: Exploring Erin's evidence with Anthony Dowsley

Jun 13, 20257 minSeason 2Ep. 40
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Co-host of our weekly subscriber shows, veteran crime reporter Anthony Dowsley, looks at Erin Patterson's final week in the witness box. This episode is a preview of our subscriber-only Sunday show.

The Mushroom Cook team is Brooke Grebert-Craig, Laura Placella, Anthony Dowsley, Jordy Atkinson and Jonty Burton.

The Mushroom Cook is a Herald Sun production for True Crime Australia.

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Transcript

Speaker 1

High listeners. As we said in yesterday's episode, there was no jury today in the trial of Aaron Patterson, so there is nothing we can report. But as you may know, we have been running subscriber episodes with my colleague Anthony Dowsley, so we thought we'd give you a sneak peek at Sunday show. The jury has heard all the evidence it will hear in the trial of Aaron Patterson. Now it's up to the prosecution and the defense to close their argument to discuss another week with Aaron on the stand.

I'm joined by veteran crime reporter Anthony Dowsley. I'm Brook Greebert Craig, and this is the Mushroom Cook. Welcome back, dows I'm sure the listeners are very happy to hear your voice for a second episode this week.

Speaker 2

Brook, It's been a pleasure. We are entering the finish line and all the evidence is done. Yes, we don't have to hear any more evidence after this. We just need to hear a few closing comments and the judge.

Speaker 1

So Aaron's cross examination finished this week. Can you talk our listeners through what was said?

Speaker 2

So for anyone who needs any brushing up on the legal system. Aaron goes through what they call her examination in chief, which is her own embarrasster asking her questions, and then you face the prosecutor. In this case, in Nanetta Rogers' sc and doctor Rogers was obviously as the prosecutor, asking tough questions surrounding all of the evidence regarding all of the witnesses that were relevant. And during the cross examination it became a little bit like Aaron Patterson versus

their testimony of other witnesses, including her son's testimony. On one or two points, it was versus Ian Wilkinson's testimony and others such as medical staff.

Speaker 1

So can you talk us through each one of those points? Where did she say that these witnesses were mistaken? Let's start with her son.

Speaker 2

There were two points to this. Her son had given a record of interview with police in the weeks after July twenty nine, twenty twenty three, so it was in August, and he told police that his mother had drunk coffee the morning after the lunch. That was one of the points. Now Aaron Patterson says she had diarrhea on that day, and diarrhea has become a large part of this case. It has been mentioned probably more than any other case in living memory. So Aaron Patterson says, no, no, no,

I didn't drink coffee that morning. I drank herbal tea, because the suggestion is from then Rogers, you wouldn't drink coffee if you had diarrhea. Now at Rogers has also suggested that Aaron Patterson is lying about a pill she took the morning after the lunch or the day after the lunch. Aaron Patterson says she took emmodium to suppress

her the RUMs. She's also suggested she didn't do that, but back to her son's evidence, her son said that they didn't stop at any point on the Sunday after the lunch when he was being driven to flying lessons. He's a budding pilot. In Aaron Patterson's evidence, she said in something most people probably wouldn't want to reveal about themselves, a private moment where she says she stopped the car on the way to Tyab with the flying lessons were going to be taken and she had to go and

have a pooh in the bush. That's not in his eviden but she says he's mistaken about that, So that's the sun, the Sun versus Aaron Patterson both their versions of events.

Speaker 1

Now let's move on to Ian Wilkinson. What did Aaron claim that he was mistaken about.

Speaker 2

Colored plates? All the colors of those plates. Ian Wilkinson was one of the first few witnesses in this case, and he said that they all ate from gray plates, largish ones, and that Aaron Patterson had a smaller tan or orange plate that she ate from. Now, Aaron Patterson says, no, Ian Wilkinson is incorrect, that she had different colored plates, but they were red and black and she had some white ones and disputed this sort of more simplistic gray

or tan plate scenario. So that's the second person she said was incorrect in their evidence.

Speaker 1

Now, let's move on to Aaron's estranged husband, Simon Patterson. What did Aaron dispute about his testimony?

Speaker 2

So there is a version of events that Aaron Patterson has discussed in her testimony, and that is about an interaction over the dehydrator that she bought the year of the lunch. Aaron Patterson says that her estranged husband, Simon, had a conversation with her in Monish Hospital in Clayton, and that he said or accused her of asking the question is that the dehydrator that you used to poison my parents. The prosecution have contested this. They say no

such discussion took place. The evidence that the courtroom has heard is that after this discussion Aaron Patterson leaves the hospital at some point and drives back to Lean Gatha, gets the dehydrata and dumps it at the nearby tip. So another point where it's erin versus.

Speaker 1

A witness, and Aaron Patterson also disputed some of the medical experts testimonies.

Speaker 2

Right, So we heard from doctors and nurses during this trial and one of the points that was raised was that the medical experts, so they told Aaron Patterson that her life was at risk when she turned up at Leangath Hospital on the Monday after the lunch. Aaron Patterson says, no, I wasn't told that. So it's another point of evidence where there's a dispute about the of events that they are recalling.

Speaker 1

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