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S1E35 | This is the difference that the Holy Spirit makes! | Romans 8

Mar 11, 201913 minSeason 1Ep. 35
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Embark with us on a profound exploration of what it means to be truly alive in spirit. As we reach the heart of our series, we pause to honor the shared stories and spiritual journeys of our community. In this installment, we delve into the essence of human nature as depicted in Scripture, breaking down the complex relationship between mind, body, and spirit. Your experiences are a beacon that guides our conversation, and we earnestly invite you to contribute your own tales of transformation, inspired by the powerful passages of Romans chapter 8.

This episode is a treasure trove for anyone seeking to grasp the liberating truths of living free from condemnation. Paul's profound writings in Romans 8 serve as a compass for navigating the tempestuous waters of spiritual and carnal existence. As we dissect the significance of the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, we also celebrate the triumph over sin and death—a victory not by flesh but by spirit. Let's brace ourselves for an insightful journey that promises to illuminate the life-changing implications of these divine teachings.*

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Understanding Human Anthropology in Scripture

Speaker 1

He has the law .

Speaker 2

Yes , he has the law , he has conviction , he has knowledge of sin and he has this inability to live that thing out because he needs something that he's missing .

Speaker 1

Hey , I want to welcome everybody back to the move .

Speaker 2

Hey , welcome .

Speaker 1

We'd like to you know what we want to thank you for being with us through about 35 episodes .

Speaker 2

It's been a little over a month .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we think this is about the halfway point of this series .

Speaker 2

We're hoping this is the halfway point .

Speaker 1

By the time you're watching this . We've done them all , but right now we haven't , so we don't know .

Speaker 2

Is that weird ? Yeah , how they know the answer that we don't . Yeah that we don't .

Speaker 1

It's a mere meta , but anyway , we just want to thank you for sticking with us , participating with us . It's a pleasure for us to be doing this . It's an honor for us to get into the word every day and to know that you're out there and that you're vibing with us . And the comments are there and we're reading them and thank you .

Speaker 2

Yeah , one of the things that I'm curious to know is how has God been changing your life through this good gospel over the last month or so ?

Oh , yeah , please tell us Let us know , like , what's going on in your life , what's going on in your personal experience , what is changing in your mind and how has just this message you've been living out in your life ? What has that done for you ? Let us know in the comments below , because , honestly , that's just what gets us stoked .

Speaker 1

It's exciting .

Speaker 2

I mean we're going to be doing this whether you write a comment or not , but it makes us a little happier when we get to know . You know , this isn't just an exercise of faith , but God really is using it . So let us know .

Speaker 1

With that being said , we're vibing with this book the book 10 minutes at a time . Hello .

Speaker 2

Today we're looking at Romans , chapter 8 , verses 1 through 11 .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and we already anticipate that we're going to do two parts to this , so we'll do part one . And before we do part one , a question for you .

Speaker 2

Is . Have you read ?

Speaker 1

it . If you have not , please go do so now and subscribe like comment , and we'll wait for you right here .

Speaker 2

And welcome back . 10 minutes are going to be on the clock in 3 , 2 , 1 .

Speaker 1

Let's go , so I want to start by saying that the next 11 verses need to be framed a particular way .

Speaker 2

Why is that ?

Speaker 1

Because we need to understand the human anthropology of scripture in order to correctly sort of digest what Paul's going to say .

Speaker 2

Now when you say human anthropology .

Speaker 1

Yeah , what a human is made up of . What are the composite parts of a human ? In scripture ? All right , and we know it because we talk about it all the time in popular culture and the Bible alludes to it , but we are three things . We are mind , body and spirit . Another way , the way the Bible actually refers to it , is body , soul , spirit .

And that idea of soul is psyche , right , the psychological life , the mind will , emotions , personality , that it's expressed in character to some degree , right , so you have the mind , I mean you have this psyche , slash , soul , which is the life of the mind , and then you have your body . We're here embodied physically , but then there's also spirit , right .

And if you go to Ephesians , chapter 2 , verse 1 , right there you get a breakdown of humanity without spirit .

And Ephesians , chapter 2 , verse 1 , we usually don't jump around this way , but it's worthwhile , for the sake of what we're actually getting to , that we go to Ephesians , and Ephesians , chapter 2 , verse 1 , says and you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked , right , and that's really much in keeping with what Paul has been arguing .

Being dead to sin , being dead to the law , yeah , but this is you're dead in the trespasses , not dead to the trespasses .

Speaker 2

OK .

Speaker 1

This is a category of what we are while we're walking in our trespasses and in sin . So we're dead people walking .

Speaker 2

Yeah Right , this is the person who , as we're talking in the last chapter , is identifying with that sin and not repenting of it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so you're following the course of this world , following the Prince of the Power of the Air . And look at this language , the spirit that is now at work in the children of disobedience , so that there's a spirit at work within the children of disobedience prior to receiving the Holy Spirit .

And that spirit has a characterization of say the heart yeah , and that heart is not a heart of flesh , that heart is a heart of Stone Stone . Yeah , reflecting back to the take yeah , it's the heart of stone when you're walking into disobedience . It's not a mind that is actually a righteous mind .

It's , and Jeremiah 17.9 talks about this in relationship to the heart , but it refers to the life of the mind . That the mind and the heart . In this sense , it's wicked and deceitful . Above all things , who can know it ? Yeah , right , and what about the body ? It's sold under the power of carnality , which is lust of the flesh .

Speaker 2

Pride of life .

Speaker 1

Lust of the eyes , the pride of life .

Right , yeah , so that is , that you are propelled forward by this desire that rises up within you , which is , as we've seen previously , sin , and it manifests itself in a spirit of disobedience and a seared conscience , a guilty conscience , because you're constantly falling short of the expectations that God has for you , whether you see it in a codified law , or just

in your heart .

Speaker 2

So Paul is talking about this experience , this kind of a person , but then he's going to make this distinction , this contrast between that person and you . Yes , and this is a really good distinction , because whether you are in sin or free from sin , there is still a sense of this lingering experience in your life .

But Paul is saying , though , even though that you might be having this experience , that's not who you are anymore .

Speaker 1

That's right .

Speaker 2

That's why he begins at the very beginning . There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ .

Speaker 1

Jesus and the reason why he's so excited about the no condemnation is because prior to in 724 , he has concluded , given the situation he summarizes in seven . We've already done that in chapter seven . You verse 24 , wretched man that I am , who will deliver me from this body of death ? And you see , that matches up with Ephesians , chapter two .

So this is a person who's walking in the trespasses and sins of their disobedience because they don't have the mind , the right heart .

Speaker 2

AKA the experience that Paul is saying in Romans , chapter seven , again highlighting to our last two episodes or so that this person is not a reborn Christian , this is not a spirit filled individual , this is person who's still under the condemnation of the law . And this person is crying out . How can I stop this ? How can I be delivered ?

From this experience and the answer is thanks be to God , through Christ Jesus , our Lord .

Speaker 1

Yes , verse 25 . And then he does this summary of what has happened . So then I myself serve the law of God with my mind , but with my flesh I serve the law of sin . And again , this is the experience of Romans , chapter seven . This is a man who has actually come into the knowledge of what the law is truly for .

So in his mind , as a Jew , as an Israelite , he wants and serves the law of God , but he also recognizes that with his flesh he serves the law of the spirit . Right , he's a summary .

Speaker 2

In other words , he is , if there's a possible way to characterize this he's going from this sinful states to this transitional period of being now spirit born .

Speaker 1

Yes , that's what that last verse is . That's what that last verse is highlighting ? Yeah , it's highlighting . It's , if you want to academic theological ease , it's the liminal stage of liminality , there you go . We all know what I'm talking about , but that's what that is . So verse eight he comes to this thing and watch this .

Okay , so you have a human who has three things Body , soul , spirit . Now , what happens when you come into Christ ? You're baptized into His death and you're resurrected into His life . You only have life via the spirit . That's why Jesus Christ , when he comes into that room with the disciples , he breathes on them .

This is imagery of Him breathing life back into Adam , which is humanity .

Speaker 2

This is their rebirth experience . This is the rebirth experience .

Speaker 1

This is Him talking to Nicodemus in John 3 . You must be born again through water and spirit . This is Him talking to the woman at the well in John 4 . You will worship in spirit and in truth , so the spirit is the life-giving power . In Romans 7 , you have a man who doesn't have the spirit although he has the law .

Speaker 2

Yes , he has the law , he has conviction , he has knowledge of sin and he has this inability to live that thing out .

Speaker 1

Because he needs something that he's missing .

Speaker 2

So this is why it says there is therefore now no condemnation . He's drawing this contrast between this Romans 7 dude and this other possible way of living life , and that's living life in the spirit there .

Speaker 1

So what happens is that when you receive the spirit , you then say I am going to live my life according to the truth of what the spirit is revealing within me . And the spirit is revealing all the words that Jesus Christ taught . You read John 13 through 17, .

And it's this beautiful exposition , beginning with the Last Supper in John 13 to John 17 , which is this prayer for his disciples .

Speaker 2

It commonly knows the high priestly prayer where he the actual Lord's prayer in that moment . Yeah , it's the actual Lord actually praying when he's actually drawing on .

Speaker 1

He's telling the disciples if I go , it's going to be a great benefit to you because the spirit is going to come .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and that's kind of crazy because there's Jesus in the flesh and when we think about it it's like what would we rather have ? And I think most of us , at least initially , think man , yeah , having Jesus right here walking and talking and hanging out with him , that's good . Jesus says there's a better thing .

Speaker 1

Why ? Because the spirit is actually going to be within you , he's going to be in your mind . This is why , then , language like this , that our San Corinthians Is it two , the first Corinthians . Two , that we have this mind the mind of Christ . Well , let this mind be in you . That's Philippians 2-11 . But that no eye has seen , nor ear has heard .

But at the end of that passage is we have , because we have ? I think it's the mind of Christ man . I might be mistaking that , but Philippians 2 actually tells us let this mind be in you , not that it might be yours in Christ Jesus , or let this mind be in you , that could be yours in Christ Jesus , but let this mind abide in you .

That is actually yours in Christ Jesus , so it's ours . That thing is settled and the spirit within us cries out Abba , father . So , now we have a spirit of obedience by faith . We have a mind that is being renewed and a body who is not leading the way , but a spirit that is animating towards life .

The Condemnation of Sin in Christ

We still have a minute , so I want to read this . Let me read this so you see this .

Therefore , there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus , for the law of the spirit of life has set you free , in Christ Jesus , from the law of sin and death , for God has done what the law , weakened by the flesh that's Romans 7 , could not do by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin , he condemns sin in the flesh .

What's going on ? Paul is determining that sin has been condemned in the very body of Jesus , and the condemnation of sin and bringing it to death is not something that the law itself could do .

All that the law could do was condemn you for breaking it but it could actually put it to death , but God has put it to death so that we might live through a whole other way .

Speaker 2

There you go . That's 10 minutes . We'll see you guys in the next .

Speaker 1

Yeah , stay tuned to part B of this part 2 , because this was necessary of a two-parter . So stick with us and we'll get right into it .

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