Episode 80 - Ricky Rahne

this much turnover from, uh, you know, the portal or, or injuries or, uh, you know, heaven forbid discipline issues or something like that. and then I just try to get the number from there. So it, it, it really varies on what we have in the, on, on the team and on the roster currently in terms of where and what we're going to need. from a, high school versus junior college slash transfer portal, um, thing, you know what I mean?

So, you know, there might be some years where, you know, we're looking for, you know, I would say, let me go back. I would say as a team, we're always going to be around 65 percent high school, probably 35 percent portal slash junior college. Um, You know, that might go slightly up or down, you know, maybe go to 55, 45, or maybe go 75, 25, whatever, but 65, 35 is about right. Um, but as the each position, it, it, it really does vary, you know what I mean?

And, and the reality of it is if we happen to have a bunch of, uh, good high school players that we're able to retain. Then we're going to see a situation where, it's going to be, we're going to have more high school players in that group all the time, you know? So it's, it kind of just, it really does vary a lot on, on what we have on the roster at that time.

And, and, uh, that's really happened for the last two years in a row and feel pretty good about that. So I wouldn't say that that's necessarily necessarily changed. You know, we've also been down there doing some junior college recruiting, which is, which has always been part of it. You know, I know, I know a lot of fans and a lot of people talk about like, well, you know, they haven't embraced the transfer portal and all that sort of stuff. I mean, we're trying to get the best players we can.

Right. So it's not like I I'm like, no, we're not taking a portal guy. And in fact, I think we've gotten some really good players out of the portal. If you look at our history, um, we haven't maybe got a ton, but the ones we've got have been pretty impactful. Um, but where we've been able to have a little bit more success and a little bit more, um, Consistent successes from junior college.

And so that's, that's an area where we feel like we've been able to evaluate well and get some good players. And, and to us, what's the difference if a kid came from the transfer portal or came from junior college, right? He sees a little bit older, a little bit more mature, whatever. He's a transfer. Um, just because a kid transfers from another four year school, that doesn't make him a better player by any stretch of the imagination. Um, so I, that's something where we've.

You know, I've been able to have some success is those junior colleges and being in Texas recruiting those guys has allowed us to then, um, take some of these late Texas high school kids that have, that have done a nice job for us.

Um, you know, so we've got, that is obviously a position that we've got to get filled, not only because, uh, You know, obviously you touch the ball in every single play, but you also make a lot of calls and there's a lot of responsibility in that and and a lot of our run game, um, we need to be able to, you know, control the center of the line of scrimmage and in order to do that.

So it's, uh, it's definitely something that we know is going to be a big factor, but we feel like we've got some guys that can that can step up and do that job.

Was able to the last half of the season kind of establish himself as the starter, but I mean, you know, if somebody else is, you know, absolutely dominating, then you got to give him a look, right? I mean, um, but grant, I think the way he closed the season, the way he has approached this off season, um, And those sort of things, I've, I've, I've been extremely impressed with the leadership role he's taken.

Um, and, and when you're able to start as many games as he did last year, which is, you know, what he started 11 games last year, right? So, um, you know, I think that he was able to do that and, and did a really nice job for us. And so, you know, I was impressed with, uh, you know, how he finished the season, know that he can continue to play better. I know he knows he can play better. Um, our whole offense can, you know, I mean, we need to get more out of the passing game. We all know that.

Um, but that's a, like, I tried to talk about a bunch, you know, that's 11 guys. I mean, we're talking the running back and protection. We're talking, um, the offensive line. In protection, but we're also talking about the running back in the office line and selling the play action pass. Uh, we're talking, we'd have to get the tight ends more involved. We all know that.

And then, and I think we can have been extremely excited with, with how our tight ends have approached this off season, particularly Jalen Butler. Um, and then, you know, obviously our wide receivers who, you know, I feel really good about, I think another year in this system and another year where they're able to make some, some choices and have be on the same page of the quarterback, I think is only going to help us out.

I also know that The other quarterback should have a leadership role as well, you know, and none of them are going to be successful without feeling like, you know, they're a leader on this team and they all work at such a level, you know, in the classroom, uh, where they're all very, very good students.

Um, In the weight room where they do an excellent job in the conditioning level where they all running to to win and doing those sort of things, um, and even in, you know, in the film room, you know, so, you know, those guys are extremely hard workers. And, uh, in my mind, they're all going to be leaders all the time. They need to be ready to go. And I think that every single football season that comes up, right? You have the guy who's the unquestioned starter and everyone's excited.

This is going to happen. This is going to happen. And all of a sudden, Um, You know, for whatever reason, that guy gets nicked up for a few games. And the next thing, you know, the season's over because the team never empowered the backups or doesn't have a good enough backup. You know, I don't think we're in that position. I actually feel better about this quarterback room than I, than I ever have in my entire tenure here.

Um, while making it a little bit more of a plug and play system than you are when you're in four down and you really have to have some different adjustments. Um, so, you know, I would expect us to continue to be in that formation. Obviously, you know, as we stay in it, We'll continue to expand and get a little bit more versatile with it. Um, but I think that, you know, we did some good things on defense, um, particularly on third down where we were very good.

We were also very good in the red zone, um, where we've got to improve, um, just our overall efficiency on first and second down, um, has got to improve a little bit, and then obviously we've got to get, um, after the quarterback a little bit more and, and, and I don't. I think that there's some things that, um, can do. We affected the quarterback a lot. If you look at the actual percentages on, on times affecting the quarterback.

Um, but we didn't sack the quarterback enough, um, and, and get him behind the sticks and that sort of thing. So that's, that's an area where, um, we all need, we all know we have to do a better job. And again, that's all 11, just like in the 11. Right. If, I mean, if I'm the. If I'm the secondary, you know, I've got to make sure I get them to their second read before, you know, second and third read so I can let guys get home. You know what I mean?

I've got to make sure that I'm disguising the coverage well, or I'm sitting at the right depth that I'm supposed to have, I'm matching the right receivers and all those sort of things. Obviously, if I'm at the defensive line, you know, I've got to win, you know, I've got to, I've got to be able to take an edge and I've got to win. Um, so if the Quarterback does get to his third or fourth read. I'm getting there and I'm getting home and I'm and I'm stopping that drive before it starts,

I want to see some guys actually perform, you know, once we get to, uh, spring practice here in March and those sorts of things, and then, you know, reality is, man, I. I don't, there's, there's no reason to hype guys up and, and, and put more pressure on 'em that they need to have. There's no reason to do any of those sort of things. That stuff will happen when they get to it. I, I, I think I did that last year with a few players.

People kept asking me, Hey, who's gonna be the person who's gonna come out and who's gonna do this? And, uh, you know, I think it affected a, a couple of the guys in a, in a, in a really. Negative way. I think they put ended up putting too much pressure on themselves and that sort of thing. And, um, and then they didn't perform up to what I thought they were going to be based on what I saw in preseason in spring practice and things like that.

So, um, I do think we have some, I've been excited about a few guys already. We had a team run today and, there were really four underclassmen that really. Jumped out and and and have jumped out every time I've been out there with him. Coach Snodgrass and his and his crew have done an unbelievable job of getting them ready. We will have as coaches more interaction with them starting next week.

We have what we call mini camps and things where we get to be with the guys a lot more and get some more competition and do some things like that. So excited about that. So I would say. There should be hope. I feel good about a few guys really, really good. In fact, um, but I, I don't want to put that kind of pressure on them right now.

And so, um, you know, yeah, I think we had one starter back LA last year and, and you know, and this year we have none, but. Guess what? We were able to replace them and able to play well, and we had, uh, internal development and we've sprinkled in a portal guy or JC guy here and there and, and I know we're going to do the same thing. I mean, I think that our staff does a good job, um, all the way from the strength coaches and, um, You know, the position coaches and those sorts of things.

And, um, we do a good job of developing kids and we're going to continue to do that. The reality of it is some of those developments are going to be year long processes. Cause we only get them for that long. The other other ones are going to be five year processes because we get to keep them for that long. However long a kid is here, we're going to try to get them better each and every year and each and every phase of his, of his career while he's here. Um, the way that. The system is made up.

We may not get to see those kids for five years. I mean, let's just call a spade a spade. I mean, it, it, and, and everyone wants to bemoan the process and all those sort of things, it, it's the process. I mean, it is what it is. So at this point, I'm not, I'm not real interested in, in, um.

Saying, okay, well, we have to get this, we have to get that, you know, I want to develop who we have on our roster, make sure that they're the best players that we can possibly be, so that we can be as deep as possible, so we can play great special teams, so that we can be, you know, um, so we can run and hit on defense, so we can be explosive and, and, and, and ball secure on offense, and, and at that point, you know, I'll feel good about it.

Not getting rid of the ball on time Offensive line not protecting well enough The running backs not protecting well enough tight ends, you know, whether they're running around or protecting and those sort of things And then you know as coaches, there's some things we could have done better whether it was giving a little bit more help here and there whether it was you know, different play calls, whether it was whatever it was, um, so I think that what we're going to see is just more trust in the

system, more trust in each other, more trust in our own decision making abilities, and that trust leads to slightly, slightly quicker decisions, which leads to, you know, More balls getting thrown on time, you know, and, and all those sorts of things. And I think that that is where we're going to start to really see it is, is, you know, there's going to be a lot more trust in the system.

Um, guys understanding their jobs, their roles, and, you know, maybe that decision goes from 3. 4 seconds down to 2. 7, which doesn't seem like a lot of time, but that's enough time to get a completion. That's enough time to, to, to get a big play. Maybe now the guy is, is, is. Just getting pushed by the quarterback, as opposed to those sorts of things, being able to step up when we need to trusting all the way around. I trust you to do your job.

So now I can do mine without any fear of anything else. I'm just doing my job, knowing that you're going to do yours. Um, so I think that that's where the biggest thing happened that second year is that trust in each other. Trust in the system, trust in your own preparation,

I was listening to a podcast recently, um, and Steph Curry was on there and, uh, He, it was actually a year old or whatever, year and a half old. And he talked about how, um, even though they'd already won however many championships and that sort of thing, that they literally talked about whether they won that week, right? Because the nine, that was their version of wanting to know, right? Because the nine months was too long, right? That the 82 games was too long.

The, the, the, the million and a half playoff games they have to play to win a championship was too long, right? So they, they talked about. Hey, did we win that week? And if you think about guys who are hall of famers, guys who've been playing for 15 years and all those sorts of things, thinking about, Hey. Hey, we won that week, right? Well, for us, we're still even, even smaller. We're, Hey, did we win that day? Did you get better today?

You know, did you, did you go out on the field concentrating on a very specific thing and did you get better and, and not, well, I don't know, coach, should we lost? No, no. I mean, there's, it's about whether you got better and, and improvement and development and, and those sort of things. That's what excites me about spring ball is you can truly concentrate.

On development, and you're still worried about winning, but the winning is much more of an existential thing that it is necessarily looking up on the scoreboard and see, um, and so I think that there's something to be said for that, because developing that self awareness, developing, um, that is ultimately what's going to carry the day, not only for these guys throughout next year, but throughout their whole lives, right? Like, that's the type of thing.

You know, we don't in our lives, we don't always have a scorecard, right? Like it's hard for me to say whether I'm a better father. There's no scorecard saying I'm a better father today than I was six years ago. I think I am because I listen better. I communicate better with my sons and those sorts of things. Um, You know, and I think I'm a better father because these guys on this team have made me a better father. Right.

And so like, I feel like I've gotten better, but there's nothing telling me that, you know, that self awareness is a life skill that our guys need. And I think it's developed during these sorts of times during spring ball, where there is no true scorecard. I

And you're grading the tape and you're able to say, Hey man, like. You know, you keep, keep screwing this up over and over, or, Hey, look, in practice three, you screwed this up, right? Practice four, you got better. And in practice six, it was perfect. Right. And so now it's about building on that throughout the rest of, of, of spring practice and over the summer and those sorts of things. So I think that.

That's how you, I mean, everything is still judged, you know, and all those sorts of things. I don't want you to think that it's just all like, you know, uh, kumbaya and grade yourself. It's not, I mean, you're still getting judged. You're still getting, um, I'm still judging the coaches. I'm, they're still getting feedback on their drills daily for me and all that sort of stuff.

Um, yeah, so it's, it's certainly, um, something where there is constant feedback going on, but it is, there's just no scorecard where the entire world. Social media, everybody else knows. I, it's also the other thing I kind of like about, um, about it is, you know, there's no social media. Like I know that that seems weird, but like the guys, yes, we'll put some stuff out there just to continue to build fan interest and help the guys out and all that sort of stuff.

But there's nothing like, all right, there's no immediate feedback. Like everyone telling you you suck or you're like, you know what I mean? And all that sort of stuff. Like, I mean, the reality of it is, is I know a lot of people. Think they understand football. but it's just like, I don't understand. Like, I think football is like the stock market. Right? Like everybody thinks they know what they're talking about and no one does.

And if they did, right, like if, if, if people really understood the stock market, then how come the same people always make the money? How is it possible? Right? Like, like if, if everybody understood it as much as I said, how does the same people make money all the time? And they keep getting like more wealthy and more wealthy and more wealthy. If we all understood it, that would even out, right? Same thing in football. How does Andy Reed continually win games like this.

If everybody understood football so well, how does a guy like Andy Reed win, how does Bill Belichick do what he didn't win? How does Nick Saban win as much as he did? You know what I mean? Like there there's levels of understanding and, and, and, and you have to have an, you know, a thing about that. And so I think that, being able to separate these guys from opinions that.

Um, maybe a little bit less educated is also helpful and they're able to see growth and those sort of things throughout the process.

Um, you know, he has a lot of answers to questions before I even ask him, which I absolutely love. And I think that's only going to improve as, as he gets to know me a little bit better. Um, so really excited about what he's bringing to the program right now. Um, coach weeks, obviously, uh, he worked with, uh, coach deck it's, uh, Fordham. Um, he also was just at, uh, Tennessee. So he's been in this system.

Uh, interviewed him and I, you know, I kind of, you know, tight ends kind of my baby, um, you know, and, uh, and, uh, Man, I was, I couldn't have been more impressed with his interview. I thought he did an unbelievably excellent job. Um, I've only been more impressed as, as I've got to know him.

He's going to be a great recruiter for us, but he's, he really does know how to develop the tight ends, knows how to utilize them, really understands this offense and the positives that it has, but also the, Challenges that it presents even to the offense, right? The things that we have to get fixed, um, the things we have to look out for.

So, uh, that's been great, you know, and coach Laster, um, really good coach, uh, excited about what he's doing and just how he's managing the room, the mentality that he's bringing with the guys. I mean, he was, you know, his offensive coordinator actually got. Left and went to pit, um, as the office coordinator. So they were very, very successful this year, um, this past year.

And, and, uh, you know, he was a part of a team that really, really could throw the ball, but also did a great job in the run game. And, um, I just liked the mentality he has and how much, how hard he's worked throughout his career to get where he is today and, um, you know, he, he, I'm excited about just the overall attitude and, and, uh, um. We're bringing in how how guys are managing their players and that sort of thing.

I think that that's what, I mean, if you look at throughout the country now, that's, that's what they are, you know, um, you know, even, you know, there's very few guys like Kittle, you know, um, who can put their hand in the dirt and are a dominating blocker and that sort of thing. I mean, those guys are, uh. I think there's one of them. He's the only one on the planet, you know, um, they can also then go run routes and dominate there as well.

But you know, it's, it, this is in college football, at least I think that HBAC thing you're, you're describing is a little bit more of what it's turning into.

Um, and it was basically created when Penn State went to the big 10 and didn't have a rival and they, there's all these trophy games. And so they just made something up and it's nonsense. And this is no joke. I mean, we beat and Michigan state got after us our first two years and we finally beat them the third year. And, uh, it was to go to the big 10 championship game.

Um, it was, it was in the 12th game of the year and, and we got after him pretty good there in the second half and those sorts of things. We forgot the trophy. Like we didn't go get the trophy. We didn't even like really remember that it existed. And then like they came and got it for us later.

And like, all of a sudden it was like in our office and that sort of stuff, but we completely forgot, like, because we were so excited about being big 10 East champions, you know, Ohio, Ohio state beat Michigan that day. And so we ended up being the champs and all that sort of stuff. So it's like. I just think that like those trophies that like the acts and things like that, that have been there for like hundreds of years, those things are sweet. Right.

But they're also sweet because they're super unique and, and, and, and those sorts of things. So I think that like. you know, Rose, uh, you know, what is it? Rosedale's pig and all that sort of stuff. Like those things are really unique and different and all those sorts of things. And, um, I just think that it's a game where, listen, we don't need any more motivation. Like we know that it's an important game for us because it's a division game. It's in state, it's all those sorts of things.

Like we're, we're very aware of that, you know, um. That's a, that's a big game as, as all of our conference games are, you know? So I don't know if we necessarily need one now, if they have one and it's sweet, you know what I mean? Like it wants to be some sort of crown or something like that. Like I'm down for that. I got, I get it. Um, but, um, you know, I think it'd be need to be something like that. I

Um, in fact, he played in junior college too. So he would, he would be pretty ticked off of me. I just don't know if any of those other white outs can play. Um, so I think we'd have to do like a mix and match a thing. Um, I don't know how many pitchers we have. Because everyone assumes the quarterbacks, but that's not true. I mean, it's a totally different motion. So, um, I don't know how many, I don't know how many pictures we we'd have.

You know, I kind of look like Johnny, um, from, uh, Cobra Kai, you know, so, uh, but I do not, I do not know Karate, no, I never, I, I think I did it a little bit as a kid and I, and like, I'm talking like when I was like five and six, like I think everybody does, you know, it's more like your parents, like your mom, like, all right, like I got to get some energy off of this kid and they won't let them play, um, all the sports yet. You know what I mean? And, and, and I never played soccer.

So like my family never put me in soccer, like I never played it ever. Um, it just wasn't, I guess it just didn't feel like it was big in Colorado, but maybe it was just cause I never played. But, um, you know, it was like one of those things I just, yeah. So I think I did it. When I was real young, but I do not know it and I'm super inflexible. So I don't think I'd be very good at it. Now I did box. I boxed in high school. Um, which was really, really fun.

You know, the movements in boxing, I think are, are, are, I think every quarterback should have to box and all quarterbacks moms hate when I say that because they don't want their baby getting punched in the face, but, um. It's good for you, right? I mean, you know, I mean, you need it. Sometimes toughens you up. You learn that. Hey, I've got a throat. You know, I've got to be willing to take maybe a glance and blow off the chin to be able to throw the right cross that I need to hit.

You know, I know when to Hey, maybe maybe right now is not the time to go in there and try to get a home run. But even more importantly than that, the ability to transfer weight and all that sort of stuff is exactly like playing quarterback, the ability to stay balanced and those sort of things exactly the same, you know, being able to slightly move and then transfer your weight and unlock your hips and let something fly. So, you know, boxing. I love boxing. I love, I love boxing.

Boxing's, uh, one of my, one of my things I love to watch. Um, and, uh, more and more than MMA. And it's not that I don't like MMA. I just don't understand it. Like I just don't understand all the holds and all those sort of things. So something I don't understand as much, I don't, I don't like it as much. It has nothing to do with how, um, obviously I think it's a tremendous sport and you're super credible athlete.

If you can do MMA, just because to be able to stand on your feet and strike and also grapple, uh, is, is pretty impressive, but I just, I tend to. Go more towards, uh, boxing.

I remember I did a sparring match against the NCAA champion, light heavyweight champion, uh, who went to air force. Um, I mean, he beat the hell out of me. It was awesome. There's blood everywhere. I was a bleeder too, like a big time bleeder. So like, um, my aunt went and watched me box a guy one time. And, uh, I won, um, but I mean, there's blood everywhere. And, uh, my mom or my aunt, right after I was done, she was like, yeah, your mother can never watch you do this.

I was like, yeah, she was like, yeah, this is horrifying. Your mom can never come in here and watch this. I was like, I know. So yeah, so I did, I think I had like. I ended up having like six or seven matches and, uh, yeah, I mean, blood every time and all those sorts of things, but, uh, it was fun. I mean, it was, it was, it was great. I would not, um, you know, I never got, I never got knocked down. Um, although I did get.

I boxed my middle linebacker cause some of my teammates went to, I've lost my middle linebacker who actually God rest his soul. He's, he passed away in a plane crash, but, um, he, uh, he was a kid who he would fight every chance he got. Like you said something the wrong way. You looked at him the wrong way. You were fighting right. David Rogers was going to fight you. And, uh. He hit me and he knocked me out. I was still on my feet, but I never went down.

Apparently that's what I was told, but I was not in a good spot afterward. It was a bad deal. Um, but, uh, I made it through. Um, and he always used to talk about how that, that got up, that, that made him respect me a lot more, you know? Cause after that, he was like, yeah. Um, cause he was, he was a tough kid, man. He was a really tough kid.

And all those sorts of things. I just, yeah, there's no need, I mean, there's no need to do what we do in terms of the kickers. Like, here's the other thing Okay. In basketball, right. Or hockey or any other sport, do you shoot on the other hoop or the other goal before the game? Not once. So how come the kickers need to go the other way? That's it's the same, like, and everyone's like, well, the wind or this or whatever. Well, they do it indoors. So don't give me that.

Don't, don't tell me the wind. Don't tell me all that sort of stuff. Like there's, there's, it's not, it's not real. It's, it's make believe it's just, they pretend the quarterbacks don't throw the other way in pregame. Like, I don't understand, like, what are we talking about? But for some reason, the punters and kickers, like, they, their whole lives are ruined if they can't kick the other way. Like, that's, that's not a thing. It's not real. Especially because most of them didn't sit there.

And let's say you're a punter, right? You punt, you punt, you punt. And we all go in 24 minutes, and then let's say the other team gets the ball first. And then let's say your team goes and score. And then the other team has, well, your team goes and score again. Now it's an hour and 20 minutes later, and all of a sudden you're punting again. And really, you needed those kicks beforehand. And there's the long side changes at 55 anyway. So now you're talking two hours.

You've been kicking into a net. Like it, it's not, it's nonsense. It's just one of those things that like, we just refuse to change.

I think here's one of the things no one is talking about on the, why, the other reason why I would have kicked off. If you know, you get a possession, right? You you're positive. You get a possession and you know, you get. The other thing about kicking off is if you stop them, you can have better field position than you were ever going to get off the kickoff, right? You know what I'm saying?

Like if you get an immediate three and out all of a sudden you're, you're, you're in golden field position, right? So I know what he was thinking about, about going third. The problem is. Is the only read Andy Reed, the only way Andy Reed was ever gonna give the up a third possession is if it was like fourth and 12, and then he maybe would've kicked the field goal. But if it was fourth and. Six or less, he was probably going to go for it, you know, you know what I'm saying?

So like, I don't know. I mean, he was probably going to say, Hey, I trust Pat Mahomes to go win this game on this play. Just like, I mean, I don't know if you saw, Mahomes came out and said that they were going to go for two. If, if, if the Niners would have scored a touchdown and then kicked the extra point, the Chiefs would have gone for two and tried to win the game right there. So I just don't know if it was ever going to get to a third possession. So that's, and I said that at the time.

You know, if you would, you know, if you could contact the people I watched the game with, they would have said that I said that at the time, I definitely, I would have, I would have deferred

Like there was almost no chance of them using all that time on the clock. So I didn't necessarily. And. At the time their best plays were happening when they were no huddling and going fast, you know what I mean? And that sort of stuff. Um, so, and then the, and then the fact that the, the Niners didn't call it. So they didn't get an opportunity in the, in, in, to go, you know what I mean?

Um. To get another, to get points in the first half, which is, was also interesting because that's what happened. Um, in the first time these guys played a Super Bowl, they, they did the same thing and they didn't go down and try to score at the end of the first half and then whatever. I'm not, once the, once it all happened and then, and, and the Niners didn't call the timeout. Then I kind of agreed with what was going on after that.

I understood kind of, you'd kind of already made your bed and we're going to lie in it at that point. Um, so, but I thought the first half was just as interesting.

Um, I did not, you know, varsity blues. My, my wife loves varsity blues. I'm kind of like, I mean, come on, like there's no assistant coaches that can take over. It's just the head coach and everybody else is like, well, what happened to the assistants? They, did they just decide like, no, we're siding with this old man right here. Or did they just like, I didn't know that was a whole nother weird thing that I didn't understand. And then also.

Why, why was the kid allowed to practice it during practice in the first place? Like I never understood that one either. Like, so there's just a time and practice with the backup quarterback. It's just design his own stuff. Like, what are we talking about right now? So like, that was all nonsensical. And also what always ticks me off is the, Oh, he got a full scholarship to Brown. No, he didn't. They don't give out scholarships. Like, trust me. I know I had to pay a lot of money.

There's no scholarships. Stop saying that's nonsense. It's, it's, it's all, it's all need based education. It's kind of a big deal. So, um, that was another thing that always ticked me off about that. Um, so I do not like that movie. Uh, basically at all, you know, the replacements I thought was the replacements is kind of a fun movie. You know what I mean? Um, I always thought that was, that was, uh, that was a fun movie. Um, you know, uh, yeah. So, I mean, I, I like, I like those.

I mean, my favorite sports movie of all time is probably miracle, but you know, I like, I like that one.

And I will tell you this, if you talk to me long enough on this subject, depending on what your, your, your, your opinion is, I will spend my entire time convincing you the other way, because I'm not convinced. I'm like, I don't know, like I have not been able to figure it out yet. Um, yeah, I will say one thing, anybody who says punch the shark in the nose, that is ridiculous. First of all, have you ever tried to throw a punch in water? It's like, you're like caught in the matrix.

Like, what are we talking about? Right. You know what I mean? Like, that's not okay. Also, I I've seen most people punch on, like, I've seen a lot of people punch. It's not, it's not horrifying. It's not terrifying. And it's certainly not going to affect a shark. Right. Like, like that's, that's, that's nonsense. It's as nonsense as the play dead with the bear, right? Like if you play bed with the deer, with the bear, he may just rip you apart. Like, and just play with you.

I like there's studies done now and all that sort of stuff. I tend to say that the shark is the most terrifying, but here's the reason why. There's two ways to die because I can either bleed out. Or I can drown, right? So it's not that I'm necessarily more afraid from the shark because it doesn't have opposable thumbs. It can't really grab you and all those sort of things. There's only one thing you have to worry about as opposed to the teeth and the claws in a shark.

You only have to worry about the mouth, right? But if I'm fighting them in their area, I can drown. And, and, and, and, and that eventually I'm going to get tired and I can't fight forever. You know what I mean? I just like, if you had really good stamina, you could try to run away from the bear for like a long, long, long, long, long time. Um, but with the shark, you're never going to swim away from the shark. Like it's, it's, it's over. Right. So that's where I tend to get on on that.

Um, that's my. That's my thing, although as a person from Colorado, I am also terrified of mountain lions because they hunt people like they literally, they track people and they hunt them and they try to kill them. Same with grizzlies who also do that, who also try to do it. Um, we never put polar bears in there because I obviously, I actually think that polar bears are the most terrifying thing because they're the fastest animals on earth for 10 yards.

And you're in freezing cold and like, and they're as big as it or bigger than a grizzly and all those sorts of things. So there's a bit like, to me, that's a whole nother element. What, what is your answer? What did I know? I hit like four of them. What was the real

Because I will say to me, like the worst way your point is very valid. Cause the, one of the worst ways to die. What would be one of two things, either drowning, right. Or being burned alive, right? Like things that take a while, like if you just shoot me and I don't, I mean, like, okay, like I don't want to be dead.

I would rather be living, but I mean, if I died rather quickly, unless it's a gunshot wound to the stomach, which I feel would be a bad deal, but like everything else, you know, so yeah, you're right. The snake thing would be terrifying. Cause you could feel yourself being eaten, which would be. Which would be a bad deal.

Are you already suffocated though when you're, when they're doing that, don't they, don't they choke you out first and then they, and then they eat you or do they do it at the same time or do they do it? Like, how do they do that? I don't even know.

And, and, and, and then my, my one buddy says, okay, do the hippos actually kill you or when they tip you over, do like Crocs or alligators or whichever's is there, you know, I don't, I don't really know the thing, like, or do they get you or the piranhas or however, like, well, who actually does the actual

So I would love to see Dave Grohl. I don't know where I would want to see them. I think that that's something that I, I, I have, I don't know. I tend to want to see them like, uh, you know, uh, maybe like. Somewhere in Australia, just because I've never been there. So I could get a free trip out of this whole deal, you know? Um, you know, so that, that, that would probably be, that'd probably be what I would say. I mean, I don't have, um, I will say this, you know what?

I've never seen anything, a sporting event, nothing in Madison Square Garden. So I kind of think that that would be something that I would need to do in my life. Um, to say that I, to say that I've done that, um, that would probably be one of the things I would have to say.

Okay, I don't know if you know, but Dave is from Virginia, so I've known about him for a super long time, but do you like him better, Foo Fighters or Nirvana, and, uh, yeah, I'll leave you with that.

But he was literally like playing instruments that he doesn't usually play because the drums were not needed, required, and weren't the best artistic choice in a lot of those songs. So I do have a lot of. Respect for him. I don't know. Have you guys ever read my wife bought it? And it was when we were in Seattle, my wife bought it. There is a book that is, um, Kurt Cobain's, um, journal and it's going through and it's just his journal. I mean, it is some, I mean, really out there stuff.

I mean, he was, uh, as bizarre as you can possibly imagine. But one of the times he writes, um, He writes, this new Dave guy looks like this is going to work out. Okay. Like that, that was one of his notes. He also like numerous times in there and talks about how Nirvana is a three piece band, because they'd gone through so many drummers that like. To him, like, ah, just whoever the drummer is. We just need one who doesn't suck.

And then all, you know, then all of a sudden, you know, Dave was like, Oh, wait, maybe this guy's actually good enough to be in our band. So, um, I did think that that would, that, that was kind of,

So each episode is very different where maybe one episode of the Zach Brown band and, uh, just, it's a, it's a really good series.