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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFTtherapyreimagined.com
The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.
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REPLAY - Outside Obsessions

REPLAY - Outside Obsessions We’re still on vacation, but we wanted to share one of our favorite episodes with all of you. We start with a quick reflection on the episode and what we’ve learned since it originally aired. Today’s replay is of Episode 95: Outside Obsessions. In this episode we talk about how to handle the hobbies and goals in our personal lives that can be all consuming, especially if they come into the therapy room. You can see the original show notes and transcripts for episode 9...

Jan 06, 202539 min

REPLAY - It’s Time to Think About Your Goals

REPLAY - It’s Time to Think About Your Goals We’re on vacation, but we wanted to share one of our favorite episodes with all of you. We start with a quick reflection on the episode and what we’ve learned since it originally aired. Today’s replay is of Episode 18: It’s Time to Think About Your Goals. This is one of our first episodes and you can see what we were working on for 2018. This episode is timeless and timely. Happy New Year, all! You can see the original show notes and transcripts for e...

Dec 30, 202428 min

An ER Doctor Reflects on Gun Violence, Health Inequities, and Moral Injury: An interview with Dr. Ruby J. Long

An ER Doctor Reflects on Gun Violence, Health Inequities, and Moral Injury: An interview with Dr. Ruby J. Long Curt and Katie interview Dr. Ruby Long, ER doctor and restorative justice advocate, about the devastating impact of gun violence in the U.S. and its designation as a public health crisis. Dr. Long highlights its rise as the leading cause of death for children and adolescents and shares the emotional toll on healthcare providers. She reflects on compassion fatigue and moral injury in the...

Dec 23, 202434 min

Reporting Back from the Behavioral Health Tech 2024 Conference

Reporting Back from the Behavioral Health Tech 2024 Conference Curt and Katie chat about Katie’s attendance at the 2024 Behavioral Health Teach conference. Katie reported back on investment trends, how Value Based Care is being understood and implemented, and how therapists can navigate these tech disruptors and evolving business models. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we report back on updates in the behavioral health tech space We deci...

Dec 16, 202443 min

Working for 988: Insider Perspectives

Working for 988: Insider Perspectives Curt and Katie received feedback on our recent one year follow-up episode on the rollout of 988. We received responses from a person who was working within the 988 system as well as someone who started going through the training for the text crisis hotline. We were able to put more depth into our understanding of how this system works. We explored training, supervision, funding, potential equity issues, and concerns for staff. We also share ideas for advocac...

Dec 09, 202439 min

How Do Therapists Get Paid?

How Do Therapists Get Paid? Curt and Katie chat about how community mental health as well as insurance, hybrid, or private pay practices get money and pay their workers. We emphasize the importance of recognizing the financial realities of the mental health profession and how advocacy can drive change in the field. We also encourage therapists to understand the systems we work in and engage in conversations about financial transparency and sustainability. Transcripts for this episode will be ava...

Dec 02, 202438 min

How to Scale Your Therapy Practice to 7 Figures So You Can Sell It: An interview with Nicole McCance

How to Scale Your Therapy Practice to 7 Figures So You Can Sell It: An interview with Nicole McCance Curt and Katie interview Nicole McCance about her journey to selling her 7-figure group therapy practice. We look at common challenges therapists face in this process as well as ideas and methods Nicole teaches to help others scale their practice more easily. Nicole shares systems, hiring, and leadership strategies. We also look at some important considerations when planning to sell your practice...

Nov 25, 202437 min

Going No Contact, Relationship Recovery, and the NY Times: An interview with Patrick Teahan, LICSW

Going No Contact, Relationship Recovery, and the NY Times: An interview with Patrick Teahan, LICSW Curt and Katie interview Patrick Teahan, LICSW after he was featured in an article on going no contact in the New York Times. We explored his experience of his work being sensationalized and the fallout from that article (and the string of duplicates). We also dug into how he actually works. We talked about the Relationship Recovery Process (RRP) and what it can look like when someone makes the cha...

Nov 18, 202447 min

How Do Therapists Manage Intense Caseloads?

How Do Therapists Manage Intense Caseloads? Curt and Katie chat about how to manage clients with high needs. We look at risk factors as well as how therapists can take care of themselves while working with challenging caseloads. We also talk about clinical strategies and effective risk assessments and safety planning as important elements for effective practice. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk about how therapists can manage high...

Nov 11, 202441 min

Bipolar Disorder - How Can Therapists Support Clients and Their Families?: An interview with Dr. David J. Miklowitz, PhD

Bipolar Disorder - How Can Therapists Support Clients and Their Families?: An interview with Dr. David J. Miklowitz, PhD Curt and Katie interview Dr. David Miklowitz about his work with people with Bipolar Disorder and their families. We look at what therapists can often get wrong when working with patients presenting with this disorder. We explore differential diagnosis, treatment options, lifestyle coping strategies, and family support. We also talk about how to walk the line between self-resp...

Nov 04, 202443 min

Is Your Informed Consent Based on Magical Thinking?

Is Your Informed Consent Based on Magical Thinking? Curt and Katie chat about the strange, manipulative, or outright illegal and unethical policies that therapists put into their informed consent. We talk through court, payment, and jurisdictional policies (among others), exploring why these policies are so bad. We also give some advice on what to do instead. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk about the ridiculous things therapists ...

Oct 28, 202435 min

Is Artificial Intelligence Bringing Bias into Mental Health Treatment?

Is Artificial Intelligence Bringing Bias into Mental Health Treatment? Curt and Katie chat about the responsibility therapists hold when they use AI applications for their therapy practices. We explore where bias can show up and how AI compares to therapists in acting on biased information. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk about whether therapists or AI are more biased With the inclusion o...

Oct 21, 20241 hr 6 min

Why Are So Many Adults Getting Diagnosed with ADHD and Autism? An interview with Dr. Monica Blied

Why Are So Many Adults Getting Diagnosed with ADHD and Autism?: An interview with Dr. Monica Blied Curt and Katie interview Dr. Monica Blied about adults getting diagnosed later in life with Autism and/or ADHD. We look at why people (especially individual assigned female at birth) are getting diagnoses later in life. We also explore skills, strategies, and accommodations to support neurodivergent individuals in navigating life. We also talk about unmasking and helping adults talk with their fami...

Oct 14, 202448 min

AI Therapy is Already Here: An interview with Dr. Ben Caldwell

AI Therapy is Already Here: An interview with Dr. Ben Caldwell Curt and Katie interview Dr. Ben Caldwell about the state of Artificial Intelligence in therapy. We look at the “AI Therapists” that are already working as well as how they are being regulated (or not). We talk about how AI therapy chatbots are being received and likely next steps in innovation. We also explore what “human therapists” can do to protect their practices and address the influx of low cost, always available AI therapy. T...

Oct 07, 202444 min

Exploring the Danger, Trauma, and Grief for a Palestinian Therapist in the United States: An anonymous interview

Exploring the Danger, Trauma, and Grief for a Palestinian Therapist in the United States: An anonymous interview As part of a double episode release, Curt and Katie share an anonymous interview with a Palestinian American therapist about their experience in our profession and in the United States both historically and since the attacks in Israel on October 7, 2023. We explore what therapists need to know about Palestine, Palestinian culture, and Palestinians in the diaspora. We also identify add...

Sep 30, 202435 min

Growing Antisemitism in the Therapy Profession: An interview with Halina Brooke, LPC

Growing Antisemitism in the Therapy Profession: An interview with Halina Brooke, LPC As part of a double episode release, Curt and Katie interview Halina Brooke, LPC, founder of the Jewish Therapist Collective, about experiences of antisemitism in our profession. We explore the foundations of antisemitism throughout the development and innovation in psychotherapy. We also talk about lived experiences of Jewish therapists of increasing antisemitism since the attacks in Israel on October 7, 2023. ...

Sep 30, 202434 min

Navigating Religious Trauma, Spiritual Abuse, and Lies About God: An interview with Dr. Jamie Marich

Navigating Religious Trauma, Spiritual Abuse, and Lies About God: An interview with Dr. Jamie Marich Curt and Katie interview Dr. Jamie Marich about her new book coming out in October 2024, You Lied to Me About God. We explore the impacts of religious abuse, Jamie’s personal story of spiritual trauma, and what therapists can miss when working with clients on these topics. We also dig into the idea that therapists can let their clients down when they don’t do their own internal work, address thei...

Sep 23, 202446 min

Do Therapists Lie to Their Clients?

Do Therapists Lie to Their Clients? Curt and Katie chat about whether therapists are dishonest and whether they should be. We received a request from a listener to talk about the idea that therapists lie to their clients. We look at what types of lies are common, whether lying is expected or acceptable, what to do instead, and how to decide whether you will lie or not in session. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk through how, when,...

Sep 16, 202441 min

Welcome to Therapist Grad School!

Welcome to Therapist Grad School! Curt and Katie chat about what the career is like, what is important to know starting out in grad school. We look at what prospective therapists need to know as they enter school, including hard truths and tips for social support. We also talk about what changes are needed in the profession and how students and new therapists can navigate these challenges. We provide suggestions on how to best take advantage of the opportunities in graduate school. We also unvei...

Sep 09, 202439 min

Are Therapist Conferences Elitist? An interview with Linda Thai, LMSW

Are Therapist Conferences Elitist? An interview with Linda Thai, LMSW Curt and Katie interview Linda Thai on her experiences as a conference attendee, keynote speaker, and educator. We discussed the need for more accessible, community-centric, and culturally humble education as well as how to more effectively share knowledge. The limitations of traditional educational models (which Linda calls the Continuing Education Industrial Complex) are discussed as well as how conferences can be exclusive ...

Sep 02, 202443 min

How Much is Too Much? Thoughts on therapists being too branded, niched, and political

How Much is Too Much? Thoughts on therapists being too branded, niched, and political Curt and Katie chat about the delicate balance between authenticity and influence in therapy, with a focus on avoiding bias and discrimination while still being real people. We also navigate the challenges of political discussions in therapy, emphasizing the need to balance political awareness with client needs and goals. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode...

Aug 26, 202433 min

How Can Therapists Help Politically Divided Families: An interview with Angela Caldwell, LMFT

How Can Therapists Help Politically Divided Families? : An interview with Angela Caldwell, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Angela Caldwell, LMFT about family therapy for politically divided families. We explore what therapists get wrong when working with these families as well as what works better. Angela talks us through the goals for family therapy, how to move families from trying to convince each other to understanding each other better, and the importance of distress tolerance and finding way...

Aug 19, 202441 min

Beyond Being a Therapist is Hard Work: Curt and Katie respond to listener feedback

Beyond "Being a Therapist is Hard Work": Curt and Katie respond to listener feedback Curt and Katie received feedback on a recent episode, Don’t Let Tik Tok Fool You: Being a therapist is hard work, an interview with Anita Avedian and Sandra Kushnir. We talk through the feedback that the perspective was too one-sided (primarily from the employer angle) and that it was too much in support of the status quo. We share our perspectives as well as how big of a challenge we’re facing as a profession t...

Aug 12, 202433 min

What is Working Now in Online Marketing: An interview with Katie Read

What is Working Now in Online Marketing: An interview with Katie Read Curt and Katie interview Katie Read on how the economy has shifted and what works for marketing has shifted. We look at how things have shifted since the pandemic and what therapists can think about now for their therapy and online businesses. Katie gives us simple strategies and clear insights on what isn’t working anymore and what to do instead. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podca...

Aug 05, 202443 min

What to do when supervision goes bad? A guide to supervision ruptures and repair

What to do when supervision goes bad? A guide to supervision ruptures and repair Curt and Katie chat about what to do when there is a loss of trust in supervision. We explore what has already been researched (and the limitations there). We also look at what can make ruptures more likely, different types of ruptures, and how supervisors can mitigate the risk of rupture and then repair when ruptures inevitably happen. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be a...

Jul 29, 20241 hr 18 min

Should We Stop Badmouthing Evidence Based Practice? An interview with Jessica Tappana, LCSW

Should We Stop Badmouthing Evidence Based Practice? An interview with Jessica Tappana, LCSW Curt and Katie interview Jessica Tappana, LCSW about evidence-based practices (EBPs). We talk about what EBPs actually are and how to implement them in clinically sound and ethical ways. We look at what therapists usually get wrong about EBPs and what they can do to improve their practice. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we talk about how Evidenc...

Jul 22, 202436 min

Two Years In: Is 988 Actually Helping People Facing Mental Health Crises?

Two Years In: Is 988 Actually Helping People Facing Mental Health Crises? Curt and Katie check back with the now two-year-old program and identify what’s working and what’s not with the crisis hotline. There is data that it is 98% but there are also concerns that have been raised. We look at reports of data sharing without transparency, increases in police involvement and involuntary hospitalization, and inconsistently (and potentially inadequately) trained hotline workers. We also explore what ...

Jul 15, 202438 min

Don’t Let TikTok Fool You – Being a Therapist is Hard Work: An interview with Sandra Kushnir, LMFT and Anita Avedian, LMFT

Don’t Let TikTok Fool You – Being a Therapist is Hard Work: An interview with Sandra Kushnir, LMFT and Anita Avedian, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Sandra Kushner and Anita Avedian about how the therapy business works now. We talk about how the profession and those who are entering it has changed over the years. We look at what new therapists can expect when they join a group practice, pushing back against some of the broadly held misconceptions of what it is like to be a therapist today. Transc...

Jul 08, 202443 min

No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills

No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills Curt and Katie chat about how to work effectively with teen clients. We look at what adults often get wrong about teens as well as how therapists can develop real relationships with their teen clients. We also look at the differences that can show up in how you do therapy with teens. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk about effective therapy with teenaged clients Curt and Katie h...

Jul 01, 202439 min

More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace

More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace Curt and Katie chat about trauma-informed workplaces. We explore what a trauma informed workplace is, why it is important to implement, and how best to do so. We also explore some practical challenges to creating a trauma-informed workplace and ideas for how to handle these challenges. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast ep...

Jun 24, 20241 hr 10 min
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