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The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly

Patricia Pino & Christian Reillywww.patreon.com
The MMT Podcast offers economic analysis on current issues from a Modern Monetary Theory perspective. Aimed at anyone who has ever felt lost in the jargon used by mainstream economics commentators. We believe economics is for everyone. You can help sustain this podcast via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
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#199 The Money Myths Fuelling Right-Wing Populism with Jakob Feinig

Christian talks to Professor Jakob Feinig about how right-wing politics is bolstered by the myth that humans are part of a mechanism they can neither understand nor change - The Market - and the efforts to further its mystification, known as “monetary silencing”. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only ...

Jun 20, 20251 hr 3 min

#198 How Captured Economics Stole Our Future & What To Do About It with Katy Shields

Patricia and Christian talk with recovering mainstream economist Katy Shields about the ways in which economists and their backers have warped global politics to the point where we and our life-sustaining planet have become secondary concerns to the primary goal of “growth”. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our ...

Jun 06, 20251 hr 4 min

#197 The Problem With Wealth Taxes with Steven Hail (part 2)

Part 2: Patricia and Christian continue their conversation with economist, author, and founder of Modern Money Lab Professor Professor Steven Hail about the well-intentioned (taxing the rich is good!) but counter-productive call for a wealth tax to “fund” life-saving support for vulnerable people (needlessly waiting for the rich to cough up while people suffer and die is bad!) and, of course - those beautiful tariffs. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126627127 Please help su...

May 02, 20251 hr 10 min

#196 The Problem With Wealth Taxes with Steven Hail (part 1)

Part 1: Patricia and Christian talk with economist, author, and founder of Modern Money Lab Professor Steven Hail about the well-intentioned but counter-productive call for a wealth tax to “fund” vital support for vulnerable people. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126627127 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/po...

Apr 18, 20251 hr 2 min

#195 Capitalists Hate Capitalism with Cory Doctorow

Patricia and Christian talk with author and activist Cory Doctorow about capitalism, culture and… [checks notes] marshmallows! Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 TAKE ACTION ON DISABILITY RIGHTS: Find your MP: https://members.parliament.uk/FindYourMP...

Mar 22, 20251 hr 19 min

#194 The Appallingly Bad Economics Of Elon Musk with Dr Dirk Ehnts

Patricia and Christian talk with economist and author Dr Dirk Ehnts about Elon Musk’s nonsensical ideas about how the money system works. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! March 22nd & 23rd Scotonomics Festival of Economics: https:/...

Mar 13, 20251 hr 28 min

#193 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2024 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 2)

Part 2: Patricia and Christian continue their conversation with economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic coverage from 2024. This episode: 7) “Markets are natural!” 8) “Banks create all the money!” 9) Labour’s Fiscal rule 10) “The government is helpless!” Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-top-119833826 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com...

Jan 31, 202555 min

#192 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2024 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 1)

Patricia and Christian talk with economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic coverage from 2024. This episode: “The fiscal black hole!” “Taxpayer money!” “Government ‘borrowing!’” “Bond vigilantes!” More to follow in part 2. Full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-top-119833826 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronol...

Jan 18, 202558 min

#191 Steven Hail: What is Rachel Reeves thinking?

Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author Professor Steven Hail about how Chancellor Rachel Reeves’ views on government spending have changed since 2010. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 NEWSFLASH! “Finding The Money”, a documentary by Ma...

Oct 11, 20241 hr 24 min

#190 Sam Levey: Monetary operations Q&A (part 2)

Part 2: Dr Sam Levey answers listener questions about the mechanics of the monetary system. Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-sam-105296626 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! Updates on worldwide...

Sep 04, 202455 min

#189 Sam Levey: Monetary operations Q&A (part 1)

Part 1: Dr Sam Levey answers listener questions about the mechanics of the monetary system. Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-sam-105296626 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! August 19th - 23rd D...

Jul 31, 202456 min

#188 Election special with Dirk Ehnts

What every voter needs to know: Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author of “MMT: A Simple Guide to the Monetary System”, Dr Dirk Ehnts about the upcoming UK election and what’s missing from media coverage. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/575427...

Jun 26, 20241 hr 21 min

#187 Phil Armstrong: MMT & Austrian Economics (part 2)

Part 2: Christian talks to Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper: “History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?” Part 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/102761654?pr=true Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/95846517?pr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.co...

May 29, 20241 hr 6 min

#186 Phil Armstrong: MMT & Austrian Economics (part 1)

Part 1: Christian talks to Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper: “History and origin of money in MMT and Austrian Economics: The difference methodology makes?” Full conversation available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/95846517?pr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://w...

Apr 24, 20241 hr

#185 Dirk Ehnts: The public debt is what we own, not what we owe

Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Dirk Ehnts about the origins and nature of money, and what it means for tackling our various planetary emergencies. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! June 17-21 Bard College Sumer Workshop in Public Fin...

Mar 29, 20241 hr 2 min

#184 Steven Hail: What if people aren’t utility-maximising omniscient supercomputers?

STOP PRESS! FOR OUR AUSTRALIAN PALS - THE “FINDING THE MONEY” FILM TOUR STARTS THIS WEEK - AS IN 27TH OF FEBRUARY! MORE DETAILS HERE: https://modernmoneylab.org.au/events/film-tour/ Patricia and Christian talk to Professor Steven Hail about behavioural economics as a vital corrective to the unreal assumptions in mainstream models. Just as MMT models the monetary system as it actually is, Dr Hail talks about the importance of modelling people as they actually are. Please help sustain this podcast...

Feb 26, 20241 hr 36 min

#183 Mark Diesendorf: The Path To An Ecologically Just Civilisation

Christian talks to Mark Diesendorf, a physicist and professor in the Environment & Society Group at the University of New South Wales, about the economics underpinning his latest book, “The Path To An Ecologically Just Civilisation”. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patr...

Jan 10, 20241 hr 14 min

#182 Warren Mosler & Cory Doctorow In Conversation

Christian talks to author Cory Doctorow and MMT founder Warren Mosler about Cory’s latest book “The Lost Cause” (set in a post-Green New Deal future), framing the MMT Job Guarantee, and more. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! Economics ...

Dec 24, 20231 hr 14 min

#181 Erik Dean: What’s Standing Between Us And A 15-Hour Work Week?

Patricia and Christian talk to economist, author and Modern Money Lab instructor Dr Erik Dean about the history of Keynesianism, BS jobs, and Keynes’ “Economic Possibilities For Our Grandchildren”. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! Econ...

Oct 17, 202350 min

#180 John T. Harvey: MMT, The UK, and Pound Sterling

To commemorate the anniversary of Trussonomic Mini-budgeting, Christian talks to Professor John T. Harvey about what determines currency prices and more. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! Economics Of The Real World (Edinburgh, Scotland...

Sep 23, 20231 hr 4 min

#178 Building An Economy For The People - Unpacking The Deficit Myth Part 7

Patricia & Christian conclude their conversation about Stephanie Kelton’s best-seller The Deficit Myth . Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! “ Rethinking Capitalism” weekend event with Dr Steven Hail (Canberra, 26th-27th August): http...

Jul 30, 20231 hr 8 min

#177 L. Randall Wray: Money For Beginners - A Politician’s Guide

As opposition politicians lecture their constituents about not loving growth enough, and vow to keep children in poverty to achieve it, Patricia & Christian talk to award-winning economist and author of “Money For Beginners - An Illustrated Guide” Professor L. Randall Wray about how governments spend and the legacy of 40 years of ignoring it. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episode...

Jul 23, 20231 hr 14 min

#176 Dirk Ehnts: Ending The Polycrisis

Patricia & Christian talk to economist, author and one of the organisers of the 2023 European MMT conference (September 9th & 10th, details below) Dr Dirk Ehnts about Bidenomics, Britain’s bankrupt water utilities, and how understanding the plumbing of modern money is vital to bringing about a just and green energy transition in the face of multiple crises facing the world today. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://...

Jul 12, 20231 hr 12 min

#175 Yan Liang: China, Trade & Reforming The System

Patricia & Christian talk to Kremer Endowed Chair of Economics at Willamette University, Professor Yan Liang about China’s economy, international trade, sovereign wealth funds, de-dollarisation, and more. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE E...

Jul 05, 20231 hr 17 min

#174 Phil Armstrong: Taking A Mallet To Monetarists

As the Bank of England plays one-club golf with interest rates, (using the wrong end of the golf club while dressed in scuba gear) Patricia & Christian talk to economist and author of “Can Heterodox Economics Make A Difference?” Dr Phil Armstrong about changing the game. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our ...

Jun 28, 20231 hr 24 min

#173 Warren Mosler: The Financial Sector - A Cost-Benefit Analysis

Patricia & Christian talk to MMT founder Warren Mosler about bond markets, Beyoncéflation and degrowing the financial sector. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 Order the Gower Initiative’s “Modern Monetary Theory - Key Insights, Leading Thinkers...

Jun 21, 20231 hr 12 min

#172 Steven Hail: Bond Vigilantes! Inflation! The National Debt! The Excuseonomics Killing The Planet

Patricia & Christian talk to economist and founder of the ground-breaking Modern Money Lab project Professor Steven Hail about the urgency of a swift and just transition to a sustainable economy and examine some of the excuses politicians selectively employ to avoid policymaking as if people and the planet matter. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: htt...

Jun 15, 20231 hr 11 min

#171 Pavlina Tcherneva: Three Lessons From Government Spending And The Post-Pandemic Recovery

Patricia & Christian talk to economist and author of “The Case For A Job Guarantee” Professor Pavlina Tcherneva about her chapter in the recently-published “MMT: Key Insights, Leading Thinkers”. Three Lessons From Government Spending And The Post-Pandemic Recovery: (1) The funding is always there. (2) Unemployment is a policy choice. (3) Large government spending is not the inevitable source of inflation. Also under discussion: the US debt ceiling drama, Universal Basic Income and more. Plea...

Jun 09, 20231 hr 6 min

#170 Cory Doctorow: Shakedowns, Shell Games & Other Silicon Valley Shenanigans

Patricia & Christian talk to acclaimed author and activist Cory Doctorow, about his new crypto heist thriller “Red Team Blues”, and the real-world money mechanics and shady shenanigans that inform the story. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast Order “Red Team Blues” here: https://craphound.com/shop/ LIVE EVENT! Christian will be interviewing Cory Doctorow in Nottingham (UK!) on Tuesday 30th Ma...

May 17, 20231 hr 2 min

#169 Daniel Kostzer: Building A Job Guarantee In Practice

Patricia & Christian talk to Daniel Kostzer, chief economist at the International Trade Union Confederation and contributor to “Modern Monetary Theory: Key Insights, Leading thinkers” about his chapter, which revisits Argentina’s 2002 Jefes de Hogar employment guarantee programme, and details considerations to be weighed in the implementation of any future Job Guarantee programme. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www...

May 10, 20231 hr 27 min
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