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⚕️ How health issues have brought me into greater alignment and clarity 🧘

Jun 20, 202337 minSeason 4Ep. 134
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This week on the podcast Bre has an update on a current health issue she has been working to improve over the last 6 months.

Tune in to hear her and Mands discuss:

⭐ The diagnosis Bre received the week before Christmas in 2022
⭐ The self led mission to reverse her symptoms
⭐ How tracking her health metrics has increased productivity
⭐ The revelation Bre had about motherhood

The purpose of this episode is to implore people to think critically and to not be afraid to dig a little deeper if something feels off.

We want to stress that of course we are blessed to have medical care in this country that is available and accessible, but that it's also ok to do some of your own digging and implement what works for you.

We would love to hear your stories, too! Let us know on Instagram of a time you've improved your health and wellbeing by consciously tuning in to what your mind and body really needs!

You can follow Bre on Instagram HERE.

You can follow Mands on Instagram HERE.

As always, please don't forget to hit Subscribe! xxx

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Welcome to the mind school, the classroom for your mind and soul where we design our lives from the inside out. He will find a human first approach to life, business and relationships to create freedom, growth and constant evolution through mindset, emotional intelligence, leadership and connection to self. I'm your host, Breanna Mae, educator, CEO

mindset and business mentor. And my mission is to teach the things we were never taught at school, so that no dream is left on the pillow and no purpose left unfulfilled. Here you can expect a lot of laughs and thought provoking conversation as we squeezed every drop of juice from this beautiful, precious, crazy thing called life. Hello, welcome back to another episode of The MindScape Podcast. I'm here with man diesel again. Good morning. Hey, doing good. How are you?

I'm good. Very good. So I'm gonna get straight into today's episode because I feel like there's gonna be a lot there. But before we do, talk to me about your win this week. Winner of the week give me an update when of the week this week for me was it was testing week at the gym. So I hit some PBS which was very exciting. Such a strong woman so strong. Wrong. Yeah, so I improved my squat, my deadlift, my chin ups and my dead ball hold. Yeah, that always feels good. 10 week

block and then your work. You tested the weight blocks so it's yeah, it always feels good to know that you're progressing even a little bit. I'm not surprised when we went for our photo shoot. So guys, you probably won't see this because man diesel's being way too modest. You weren't you weren't. Why? We were doing a photo shoot and man's had this little cute gorgeous little that midriff.

And we were all standing around just like Jesus got some washboard abs like you're not they actually are they actually you have abs. washboard though they're very, they're very attractive. You're fine. You look gorgeous. I'm happy for you. And you're strong. You're strong and you're healthy, which is cool. Yeah. Really good for this episode. Very good for you. Yeah. What's your win? Oh, it's actually been hanging out here. Oh, it's been really fun. It's

been really, really good. I feel like it's been it's more engaging to me anyway. I'm gonna grave. Yeah. We'll soon find out. With the reviews. Yeah, no, it's, it's felt really, really fun. And even though there's been some pretty stressful moments happening behind the scenes for me with everything. This is just I forget them. Yeah. All about them honestly, that they don't exist anymore. Yeah, it's not.

So I'm going to sort of dive into today's episode, which is a, it's kind of it's a little bit, I guess it's a bit of a health update. And like what's been going on behind the scenes, but also, there's so there's been so I've had a few health things going on, which we'll get into, which has been happening since last year, actually, since like, last December. So it's been six months, when some things were brought to my

attention. And there's been so many lessons along the way around, trusting, trusting myself around little health hacks that I've been able to implement in response to these, this new information, and a lot of mindset work that has been done and that has, it's really cool, because while it might seem like I've had this health, quote, problem or issue, it's actually been the ultimate gift.

And I actually am saying it that way, because it's it's shown me a lot of things that I didn't even know were there emotionally. And then I've been able to implement and integrate so many new health protocols, which has been so good for my energy for my productivity and just has impacted my life in so

many ways. And so I wanted to talk about it and share in case there's anyone who's going through health things or just wants to optimise health because there's been so many little lessons and I feel like I've looked like up levelled my health because it's almost like I kind of had to Yeah. And a lot in this lesson to about being a really fucking critical thinker, like 100% Yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting into this because I've also got some thoughts on this whole topic as

well. But why don't you start with how did this all come about for you like what prompted this health optimization? Yeah, massive health optimization, so I went for a pap smear. This is a fun topic. We love the pap smears. You think you don't like pap smears. Wait till I talk about a colposcopy? pay. That's a fun one. Oh, it's bad God, I cried. Like I literally cried anyway. So I went from my routine pap smear at the end of last year.

And it was, this is a whole, there was a lot in this where I was like, Oh my gosh, I want to go in to the medical system to the to the education, I need to train so many people in bedside manner inadequate in communication in language choice. So anyway, it was right before Christmas. And I remember it. So clearly. Because I was at the shops, I was just walking through the shops, and the doctor rang. And she said, I'm really sorry to do this over the

phone. And I was like, well, that's not a good way to start from a doctor. Right before they literally the week before they closed for Christmas. And no one could like talk to me for three weeks. And it was like, we're really sorry to do this. But we found some issues we've got and she used the word, you've got pre cancer cells. And there's some abnormalities with your cervix. And we've also found a congenial issue with your uterus. It looks like it's kind of split. And I was like sick,

cool. I'm standing in the shops in my head. I'm like, which is the uterus is where the baby grows. Wow, I should have paid attention in the fucking health classes. And I was like, I think the uterus is where the baby grows. And I was like, so when you say I have a problem with my uterus, and it's split, does that mean I'm gonna have like an actually said to her at the time. Sorry, this is a lot of information to take on. You've

mentioned the word cancer. She also said, You need to be seeing someone as a matter of priority. This is urgent. She used the word. So within like two sentences, it was urgent priority cancer and split uterus. And I was like, well, that's a lot to take. Heavy. Yeah, sorry. I'm really just trying to comprehend all this. I don't know what to start with. Do I start with the cancer

stuff? Or the uterus stuff or like an I don't think that I now know that it was really, I don't feel like it's unnecessary word to use that C word with some cells that are a bit abnormal. 100% get that the medical? I get it. I understand that that's what they call it. And that's what she has to say call a spade a spade, but I just feel like there is something a little bit over the overboard there, especially when given the context. And we're closed for Christmas. So we'll see you in a

month. It was just like, okay, cool. Yeah, like, what am I to do with this? Yeah, nation, really, it was just a bit of a rabbit hole. And so anyway, upon another, so from there, it had to be a biopsy of my cervix, which was to see if there was cancer, or how far ahead these cells had become, like, had grown. And the problem for me is that I already have had some cervix removed. So 10 history there. Yeah, there's history. So 10 years ago, I had

cervix removed. And because at the time I was 19, I didn't give a shit. I didn't even know that the cervix would have any side effects in terms of like pregnancy, birth, all of that stuff. I just was like, get it out of me because I was ready to go to I was ready to move to Canada right before it happened. So I was like, just check it out of me. I'm moving to Canada. And so I had already had quite a large amount of my cervix taken out. So I had to go for a

biopsy. Long story short, the biopsy was confirmed that yes, it's stage, they call it cin three, which is like, the the last stage before they call it pre cancer. And I was like, Okay, this is a lot of information. And so that, by the way, colposcopy is ranked that's when I said she was like, leaned back in the stairs, just crying, because honestly breaks my heart as well, because there's just in those situations, I understand that they're there to do a job.

There will be circumstances under which people in that position do probably go on to develop cancer. And and, you know, it is something that needs to be taken seriously. But I also think there's so much space in those circumstances for some empathy, and just some understanding that this is really scary stuff. And you're there alone. Yeah. And you just got to lie there and take it, essentially. And it's a lot.

And I feel I actually feel for the doctors too, because I'm sure they're in a system where it's like they gotta get another patient in, they've got time. They're working in like 15 minute blocks. They're running late, they're probably stressed to so I get that. But it was just a whole experience of like, wow, there's a lot of disregard for the language choice. Like there's a lot of language that I think could be I've got an issue with a lot of the language choice of the medical system.

But anyway, it was confirmed and they said, The next stage is that we need to remove it like this was the doctors and at this stage when I went into go see the doctor, I brought a friend with me because Paul couldn't be there and I brought a friend because I just know the way the brain works. I'm going to filter shit out and not remember what

the doctors said. So I had a friend come with me and the advice was, look it stage three or send three and we want to take we think we should take this out like that's our advice. We want to take it out as in take the cervix out the rest of this, not the rash. A portion of your cervix out and she did say because you've already had some

of your cervix removed. The unfortunate piece here is that you're going to be left with less than a centimetre of cervix, which actually I didn't know meant there's still ways and don't get me wrong, I can still do this option, but there's gonna be less than a centimetre of cervix left, which means it's very likely that if I get pregnant, I would need to have like a stitch to hold the baby in, because that's not necessarily enough cervix to hold it in, which means preterm

labour is a very high risk. Yep. And bedrest would be required and a whole thing so but then she also said, if you decide not to go ahead with this surgery, one of the issues is that the cells might grow when you're pregnant, like if you decide to get pregnant, the cells can then grow because your immune system is weakened when you're pregnant. So these cells will

then grow more. So I'm like, okay, so it's either don't have the cervix removed, and risk that if I was to have a baby and get pregnant, the cells will grow and potentially potentially fester into that big C word, or have it removed and look at pregnancy with a very, like pregnancy will be quite difficult. And there'll be a lot of stuff there. So they were the two options. Anyway, long story short, it's not really about the

whole situation. It's not really about like, the choice I've made and all of that with the cervix stuff. But I have made the decision right now to just leave despite the fact that she was like, we recommend that you book in for surgery, and remove it. I was like, okay, cool. And then I went home and did so that was the thing I said to her. Is there any potential that these cells can reverse themselves? Is there any potential is stress or diet a factor that I can play

out here? And she said, No, I was like, okay, alarm bells, alarm bells, I'm sorry. But she also told me that these cells are thrive when your auto immune system is weak. And I was like, when you're sorry, when your immune system is weak. So in my head, I was like, well, then that doesn't make sense. Because your diet stress your lifestyle, sleep has a direct correlation with with that with your immune system, and with inflammation

and all of these things. So she said, No, no, and we think you need to, again, this is not against her all the medicals. This is that was her lens, and I absolutely understand that through her lens of the world. And through her model, and through her practice, that was probably the right thing to say to advise, yeah, get rid of it. But I was just like, that doesn't feel good to me, it doesn't feel right. There's something going on here where I

need to understand it more. So I went and did so much research, so much research. And I found honestly, piles and piles and piles and piles of people on online and doctors and all these other methodologies of people who had said they'd gone from stage three, or cin three, which is what it's called to reversed to it's not there, we can't find it, you've reversed it. And I was like, This is awesome. Because a it's given me belief and hope. And belief, I believe is like more important than

anything. It's reduced, stressed. And stress is actually really, really interesting on the body and what that does to the immune system, like all these things. And so my priority for the last and I've gone and seen all these I've seen different naturopaths I've seen a kinesiologist I've seen all these different people who are on this, just see things differently. Not that then it's not about who's right or wrong. It's just a different way of seeing things and they're seeing

things differently. Like okay, well your body's natural status to be healthy. So we just need to get out of the way go get yourself the right vitamins, nutrients, sleep, stress reduction, all of these things and see if we can bring your body back into balance, which is what it's meant to be. Yep, that makes sense to me. So I've been on this huge thing about stress reduction, nervous system regulation, sleep, I bought an

aura ring. I've done all these things and it's been really incredible like watching the data for example on my sleep ring on my aura ring and seeing what happens when I play around with different nighttime routines. And like seeing my heart rate after certain things and what I've noticed just in the last probably three months it's I've been really dialling down on like, removing gluten removing stress, adding all these really good things is that my productivity is better. My

clarity is better. I have more autonomy and myself and my body because I was like almost on this little mission to like research things for myself and find different ways that then were validated that like no brown. You're right like what you research was like you're on the right path. So I feel like there's just been so many lessons here so many lessons in like, just because someone says

something to you. We don't need to necessarily accept it as fact and be like okay, fates just been handed to us. 100% I could not agree more. You know, I've had my own experience with this. I've had a very similar call from a doctor who was giving me some blood test results. My god basically told me the only reason that something had come back a certain way is because I have leukaemia that donation, same thing on a Friday afternoon. And it turned out it wasn't that at

all. But it was incredibly stressful into a huge anxious spiral over the course of the weekend, because I'm getting to see anyone second opinion there. And it was a Friday afternoon. Oh, yeah, it was horrible. Yeah. And same thing, it triggered a huge learning journey for me in relation to a condition that I have, and just trying to find different ways to manage it. And I don't know if I'll be able to

cure what I have. But I can certainly manage it in a way that is better than taking copious amounts of medication every day for the rest of my life, and then taking a stronger medication when that medication stops working. Yeah. And like we've spoken about before, it's about I think, for a lot of people, you kind of have to reach that point, you have to go through something like that before you have something triggered inside you. That goes, I don't think that's right.

Yeah, that doesn't work for me. Yeah, that doesn't sound right. For me. Yeah. And so I'm going to go off, and I'm going to figure it out. And there are so many instances of people who have gone away and done that, and it's worked for them. I also understand that there are people that have probably gone out and searched for other ways to manage things, and it probably hasn't, yeah, for them. So I think that needs to be acknowledged as well. 100 per spot you

need to try. I don't know if this is a generational thing, but sometimes I would talk to, for example, my parents and autunno, the doctor said, and I'm like, But hold on, what can we get another opinion? Can we research ourselves? Can we go look at some journal articles? Can we read some of our own studies? Can we like all of this like, and that's just not something that I don't think everyone does, because we give

our power away. And it can come in the form of giving our power away to the pills that are going to fix us to again, I'm not saying that pills and prescriptions are bad. I think it's a beautiful thing for some situations in some context. Yes. But I think if we can take everything with a like, what

feels good for me? And what research can I take and be an active participant in, in our health, in in everything, we're always going to feel way more empowered, because we don't give it to like, something we don't understand. And I think there's again, when we educate ourselves, we empower ourselves. We're never going to be powerless.

That's right. Yeah, it's really interesting, the generational thing that you talk about as well, because I had have had a similar situation with my dad, who has, you know, something that he's been diagnosed with that he's going to have for life, and he's been on medication for it. But then the medication that he was on for it made him feel Yeah, like shit. Yeah, body aches. You know, he wasn't recovering from just

short walks, yes. Really, Gaia. And even to see his train of thought start to go down the road of this. This isn't right. Yeah, it can't be right, that I'm on a medication to improve my quality of life from a condition that I've been diagnosed with. But it's actually making making it worse. And to see him question that as well. Of course, it was cool.

Yeah. And it really made it easy for me to talk about what I was going through and the different parts that I was kind of going down my diagnosis as well as for him to be like, good on you, like, super supportive. That's so cool. Yeah. And I think it does open up the opportunity to

have those conversations. Yeah, with the old an older generation, I feel like sometimes we are teachers and and gifts for our parents to heal some of their stuff or like, you know, like we've talked about, I could not agree with that statement anymore. Yeah, it's just been really cool. And like even that, like so I went out, like I said, I've got my aura ring, which is just been so good. Please explain that. I've never heard of an aura ring. I

don't know what it is. Okay, so the aura ring I highly recommend. I have to say, I wish it looked a bit cool if I only just when you said or Riga looked at it. And I was like, Well, yeah, I do wish it was a little bit more, you know, diamonds or like something that'd be nice, but it is essentially it's kind of the

ultimate and it's so bad. It's one of the highest most highly backed, research backed like scientifically acclaimed, I want to say 10 times better than a smartwatch, like so it has been tracking and giving data and getting to know me over my sleep cycles. It's time telling me about my quality of sleep. And I can see my heart rate throughout the day, I can see that I can see how deep my sleep is how well recovered, I'm waking up my heart rate variability, I can

see when I'm ovulating. It's got a good like period prediction. It's got so many little tiny Health Insights. And again, you've got to look at it and be like, Oh, interesting. What did I do last night? Like, for example, I said to you before, Paul, and I went to gold lounge last night, and I was like, Oh, this is going to be interesting to see what happens to my health data. Because my nighttime that my bedtime was two hours later than normal. Crazy. 10 o'clock.

I know 10 pa ye all right. But also my diet like it was a lot of food because it's gold round. It's a lot of food. We still stay gluten free thank God there was options but like we still we ate more than we normally would and different to what we normally eat later than we normally would interesting. And then sure shit, you wake up and you say that your sleeps not as good. Your heart rate is higher

the whole time. So your quality of sleep is not as good and then my readiness because it gives you your readiness for the day. My readiness today it tells me just go a bit slower because actually you didn't die. You didn't rest that well last night because you were still fucking digesting. Right? So it's like all these little tidbits pull started. Paul was into this way before me he loves data and cooking. He has a different he doesn't have an aura ring, but he attracts some other way.

Yeah, he's been tracking for way longer. And he's so in touch with it all like he got to the point before his naturopath said he was like, I don't think I can have yeast because be a fox my my sleep data. Like he could see like he was feeling more inflamed from ber anyway, it's sure enough he's intolerant to yeast. And so he got all this testing done. But He's even been able to see through sleep track

data. He's actually absolutely fucked with VR, like he won't get any deep sleep, his sleep quality will actually go backwards throughout the night. So it registers your stress levels. Sometimes when we're sleeping, our stress is actually not like we're not recovering. So he started to see that he could actually, Whiskey was fine for him. Now he has whiskey, love that. But like, it's just been really cool. And like It's like these tiny little things that actually have such a big

impact. Because if you notice these things, and implement them, it all makes sense. You don't just wake up and go God, why do I feel like shit today? Like, why do I feel kind of grumpy? And like why do I not feel energised? And it's like, well, it's all there for us. And we can look at it and just become like the masters of our own health, the masters of our own productivity balance, energy management, like, it's just been really, really cool and stress

like it yesterday. It told me I was the most relaxed when I was with you recording. Oh, that's XIV Yep. And I've seen this Do you know, it's been so interesting, my heart rate goes down. And I am the most balanced, relax in terms of heart rate and all of that when I'm coaching and I'm with my clients, and I've been working with my clients, I can see on my graph. That is like my flow state. Wow. So interesting.

That's cool. Yeah. So I can even start to see like, whoa, I'm doing things that are really good for me, I'm on the right path. I mean, yeah, I'm in a flow state when I'm with clients I'm in and I'm doing and I'm just so present with them. That then sometimes my stress rates go back up when I finish work, because that's when my brain gets I'm not. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you can sort of see all these things. And I think, again, like there's been so many gifts to this whole health issue

thing. One of them being that I've been able to be way more in touch with my own health and therefore productivity. But it's just been a really good indicator of like, you get to be the master of your destiny actually, like, really, and I can't wait, like I'm so fucking driven by I can't wait to be back here recording and giving the results that actually I've reversed it. Don't worry, I'm not having the surgery. It's completely reversed. I can't wait for that. And so what is the

process going forward? Do you have to go back for regular checkups? Or how do they monitor it? I have to so because I've gone quote unquote, like against advice. I have to have rebelled. Oh, naughty, naughty, I need to again, I saw the I read so many studies over last

weekend. And I was like, it's a very, very, very small percentile chance that this will go to and even went a little bit further to know that the kind of cells and the virus that like creates this cell growth, I don't actually have the strain that usually is correlating with

cancer. So I've even seen like and I had to go, I had to physically call my doctor pay for my results to be sent to me so that I could get my own bloodwork results and do my own looking looking into that because they didn't tell me any of this and I was like well, these are the two strains that usually are connected to cervical cancer. What strain do I have on Ah No Give me my I was like all of this was had my own research. Imagine if I just anyway it just

that that's right. Imagine if you just go oh, okay, well, I'll just, I'll just get the surgery. Yeah. And remove part of my body like, I don't know to me and no judgement, I've done the surgery I've removed it. I've been there I've done followed the advice when I was younger, I just did it. And to be honest, I kind of I don't have any regrets. But I'm glad now I'm not in that level of consciousness or like, I'm just so glad I'm not just going and removing more of my

body. Like she said to me, if you didn't already have kids, I'd be I'd be saying you need a hysterectomy. Wow, her Yeah, like that actually was the moment my friend said to me afterwards, she was like, fuck, I actually felt the wind knocked out of you then because I was like, that's a huge call to just remove a whole part of what makes you a fucking woman. Yeah. And just, you know, so now I'm going for checkups every six months. I've got another one in

two months. And I'm so excited just to wait for the results that say actually, it's all good. What did you do? Can't wait. And actually, did you want to touch on where it kind of left you in terms of you sort of thought you had your mind made up about something? And yeah, it led you through that process of perhaps it being not possible. And yeah, just somewhat different. Yeah, that was I think that was actually the biggest gift of this whole thing.

I had always played the story and said, and anyone who's known me the last few years would have heard me say like, I don't know if I want to like I don't know if I'm gonna have kids? I don't know, I've always been really like, Yeah, well, I may. I don't know, I don't know, I'm not really a maternal person. I've had this like real dialogue around that. And when I first got that, you know, your uterus is this and you're you might have trouble and we don't know

and all of that. I actually fucking sat at the table at home and cried. And I was confused. I was actually shocked by Paul was shocked by that. He was like, what? I'm so surprised with your reaction, because you've always been so like, yeah, if it can't happen, it can't happen. Yeah, I don't know if I'm a channel. And then that was my first invite to like, wow, there's something deeply repressed in me that's like, and I don't think you'd be

surprised. Or anyone who knows me well, but like, actually, I'm very fucking sensitive and emotional, and probably very maternal. Like, I've seen you with Lola, your maternal. Yeah, yeah. But I have and I'm a fucking teacher, like, I lived for my students for a long time. And I cried at every assembly, and I still am in touch with a lot of them. And

I've watched them grow. And it's my favourite thing in the world and like, but I'd it was this really interesting thing of like, when you lie to yourself enough, you start to believe it. And I'd been lying to myself for so long. And there's so much I'll probably do another episode on like, what was underneath it was, you know, fear. Yeah, it was a protection. There was a protection there. Yeah, it was like, I don't know what if I can't, I might as well pretend I

don't care. Or, look, my fear is just how much I love this thing. And that was like, I will love this human so much that I'm scared of my own emotions, like, I am such a sensitive soul that sometimes it's too much. Yeah. And I've spoken to you about this, like, even when you go through things with lol or I'm like, Oh, my God, my whole, I'm ever going to be able to feel like, you know, so I had this coping mechanism which had served me well, for so long. I don't know, I'm not maternal

lalalala. But anyway, three stories, story story until I believe it. And you know, I've spoken to a few of my clients, my private clients, because they knew what was going on. Health wise, I'm very honest. And if I'm having a sad day, I'll be very honest about that. And one of my amazing clients, Renee, who I know listens, she has actually been such an amazing

person to have in my life. She's been a client, and she's actually was such a legend of a human has had cervical cancer herself when she was 19, I believe. Whoa, yeah. and was told that she probably wouldn't have kids. She has two kids. Yeah, Lola, this whole thing. But she actually laughed at me. And she kind of called me out and was just like, Brianna, you are a mother even to us. Yeah. Like even to your clients. You

are so maternal. Yeah. So it's really funny that you're, you've had that story, because we can all see it. And it's just that reminder that like, sometimes we don't even see our own blind spots, because we've lied to ourselves so much, that it was really cool. Again, it was this gift of like, wow, I really do want that thing because as soon as it got taken, the potential was taken from me. I was heartbroken. Yeah, it really hurt and then all that story. Like there there was another

thing to deal with. Like, if I can't have kids, am I even a woman? Am I the wife of Paul like Am I what Paul and big conversations for us and it led to all these big conversations around what we do want and parenthood and it was actually beautiful. And now I'm actually like, No, I do want to be a mom I am maternal and I am gonna fucking sort this whole thing out and be The most conscious person I can right now, because I have to do this. I started

dreaming. I've started dreaming about this child that I know is like, it's so weird. There's a whole story there. But like, yeah, I feel that there's a child already in my energy that's chose, like, it's their dreaming. Yeah, literally keep dreaming about it's so interesting. So I know that this was a gift for me to actually see the parts of me that I wasn't ready to see. And now I'm optimising my health. And I'm breaking that story that I'm not

maternal. And it's all like preparing me for my next journey, which is really cool. Hopefully, you've come out the other side, because I've obviously been in the thick of this with you as well. And it's amazing to see that you've come out the other side with a completely different outlook on it all and a way forward. Yeah. Which is amazing. And you can see the result. It's so cool. It's so cool. Like I actually said to Paul this week, I'm actually excited to be a mom. Oh, and I've never said

that. I've never ever allowed myself to say that. Yeah, it's crazy. And Paul was like, wow, like, even I went for a coffee at don't just the other day before I came here and there was a lady breastfeeding, and I fucking I was getting teary. And I was feeling all these feelings that I've never felt before because I'd removed to the lies. I'd removed to the stories. Yeah, I do want that. I actually that's so beautiful. That's so gorgeous. And for so

long. I've protected myself from feeling that it's been really cool. It's been a gift and I'm so grateful for it. Yeah, what a weight lifted as well. What an awesome feeling. Just make sure that when you do have a kid, and you buy them little Sylvanian families Oh, epic fail, fail for me and I just briefly tell your story. I have 204 So for Christmas last year, Bree was asking me what should I get Lola? What should I get Lola?

And I said she loves the Sylvanian families if you don't know it's a little range of toys. And it's like the characters are like mice and bunnies, koalas and their little tiny things. And they they have whole worlds. Yeah. You know, cars and kitchen. Barbie kind of selects but not Yeah, little animals. They are a little bit strange. But Lola loved them because she had some friends that had and we hadn't bought

them for her. And I said if you if you could buy her these little figurines, she would just be so rap. So Bree comes over at Christmas time. She's organised this beautiful event for us to go out and have a celebration with our friend Laura as well. And her little daughter. And she Yeah, the limo wasn't really a vibe for either. No, she has since talked about that she bought she does want to go back. Three and four and IV. But you were so excited

because you bought the toy. And Lola unwrapped it and it was the car which was cool as but on the box. It looked like it was gonna come with a little figurine and there was no figurine inside. So it was a bit of a flop. She was like oh, it's like and I'm like, oh shit cool is the car no bunny, so then she tried to make up for on her birthday by buying another set, which was the whole kitchen set. Again, thought that it came with the bunny did not learn the

first time no bunny. So Lola has a Sylvanian family, car and kitchen with no little fingers. She doesn't have the actual she's got no figurine. But she does use it with her LOL dolls. So it's okay to buy her some of the figurines, you know I have? She's got I'm waiting for you that time lucky. Well, I don't even I don't even know what I've done wrong at this point. Because I swear the second time. Okay, I'll learn that. Yeah, I've got Lola as my practice. He again I'm filing

terribly. No, she adores you. I love LA I love hearing you all are on our voice notes library. She left you a little extra pressure to get into the little trumpet trouser. She did a little trumpet trouser. That's how much she loves you. She feels comfortable to drop her guts in front of you. Yeah, you're gonna be a great mom. And you're gonna get there. And it's yeah, it's amazing to see that you've come out the other side of all of this body medical drama.

Yeah. And I guess like the summary or the takeaway for me has been and maybe for anyone listening is like, we get to just ask more questions. We get to just ask more questions, either if it's like a story that we're telling ourselves, and we want to know, like, what's underneath that? Like, for me, I did a lot of inquiry what's

underneath that? And if doctors tell you something or a psychic tells you something or a coach tells you something or a mentor tells you something, you can still sit with it and you don't have to take everything as like gospel. Yeah, it's okay to question it. It's all okay to go off and do your own research and come up with your own opinions and your own way forward. Yeah. Especially, especially when it comes to your health. So yeah, it's so important. Yeah. So good. Thank you so much for

sharing that. I think that's going to help a lot of people. That was a really great chat. Thanks. See you next week. Bye. Thank you for tuning in to the MindScape podcast. It is a massive intention of mine to continue to grow this show. Because the more the show grows, the better the guests get. And I know that is going to be so

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