🌟 How Beth overcame the "good girl" complex to re-design her life 📸

and squeeze at the retreat. And whenever I reflect on the experience, like I do, every time I sit, and I reflect on like, how can I make it better? Who was getting results? Why were they getting results? What can I do to support clients more? And I always think of like, who had some really incredible transformations internally and externally. And so as soon as I started doing that reflection, I was like this, I need you to come onto the podcast, because you're like

my grande little student. And I remember actually saying, Oh, God, I'm the one that's asking questions, like, I've always got my hand up. And I'm like, That's exactly why you're getting transformations. So the listeners, can you just firstly, explain who is Beth? Who is Beth? Okay, well, I am a mum. That's definitely a label that I've come to cherish in the last couple of years. I've got two kids, two and a half year old and a six month old, I've got a husband, I've

got a dog. My husband and I run a digital marketing business. Together, just the two of us little digital agency. And as of well, thanks to low I now have started well, I've started two things. Actually. I've met with photographer. That's the thing that's happened. And I also have started a birth education business. So that is, that is me. Holy moly. And you know what, there's already so much I want to talk about, but I was thinking this morning, I

remember. And I always think those moments of real clarity where you remember the moment with such precision, I like really, usually pivotal moments. And I remember exactly where I was, and what the weather was like when I first found you and came across you. And it was actually because you had messaged, I think it was about level up like when I was going to open it. And then I ended up on a rabbit hole reading all your captions. And I cried, I

actually cried reading. Yeah, honestly, I'll never forget it. Because I instantly was like, Oh, wow, I think I even told you, I was reading your captions around birth and motherhood. And this was before you even started what you're doing now. And I was like, moved because of the emotion and your creativity. And like, I just really loved consuming your content. And I

think I said that to you. And then a couple months later you joined to level up and to watch you now turn this thing that moved me like you moved me I remember I was at the park over there near my house like walking around the pond near the ducks. And I've got tears pouring down my face. Because your your writing was really, really cool. And it was like you were obviously very fucking passionate about the topic. And then just the you turn this into something throughout level up.

I've just had this massive like full circle moment. It makes me so happy. So I just wanted to reflect that back to you too. Because I don't know if I ever told you like it. You did tell me you you'd read something that it was you thought it was really great. And I was like I didn't know you cried though that yeah, that's that's obviously something quite moved. I'm feeling like a toddler. They have big feelings. I have lots of big feelings.

Like, obviously, we've really like, brought that piece of you out and you've got you've gone fully like, You've done so much to bring that part of you out into your life. But before that, when you did so we were messaging you were like when's level app starting? I'd really love to be able to make it happen at the time. I think you might have even been pregnant when we were first messaging. Yeah, I was heavily pregnant. So I think I missed the round before because I was I'm really

pregnant. And then it turned out to be a good thing because we ended up moving house while I was like 38 weeks pregnant. So given everything that was going on, it actually was a good thing that I waited until the January to do that round. And yeah, and I just kind of I've been thinking about it for honestly such a long time. Like I've been listening to your podcast for a year, year and a half, maybe, like quite a long time. So it's been something that I wanted to

do for so long. And I seriously considered it I was like, Oh, well before I've got two kids. I'll do it now. And then just it didn't work out. And it absolutely I don't think it was meant to but then yeah, come Yeah, this round. I was like, Yeah, this is my time. With a newborn. This is the best time to do a major sort of elephant course. It was so cool. And you were Oh man. There's so much to unpack because you got transformations because of how you showed up and you were showing up with a

buddy. Sometimes I think you even breastfeeding on like, and it was so cool. I was hoping it wasn't doing. I was watching I was like babies. Yeah, I love it. And so let's rewind back to that time. You've got a newborn you've just joined it was January. Why did you do And where are we at, like, emotionally, mentally, all of the things I just remember being really, I guess, I knew there was more I knew I had more to be giving.

And I knew there was more that I needed to be or that I wanted to be kind of showing up as, and I didn't, hadn't figured out how to make that happen. I'd been trying honestly for probably about a year at that point to like, to just try new things go new places, and and I had all these ideas in my head. And I just hadn't committed to any of them. I was just like a classic procrastinator, just like nothing, just you know, perfectionist tendencies where I was like, Oh, I can't start yet.

I don't have X or I don't know why. And I kind of just jumped into low going, I just need something to shift that shitty energy that like, you actually put up a post recently about the word stuck. And I did I would tell myself as I'm stuck, I don't have I'm just not moving anywhere. And I needed something to change that. And yeah, that was I just knew well, was the thing to do that for me. And it definitely did. Wow. So and at the time. Okay, so at the time, were you working or working? Was

it your husband? Yeah, yeah. So I took a couple of months off, probably two months off after I had my son in November, and then come kind of FAB, I started working again. But yeah, so I was technically on maternity leave. Although when you run your business, you know, I kind of I just had, I had to jump back in and start doing like some bookkeeping and stuff like that. So it was very much a you know, you just gotta do what you got to do when you you're in a

small business. So yeah, I was kind of I had my daughter, my two and a half year old. And, you know, my, my, my newborn son, and doing some work in the background and just loving it up. rolling it up, you loving it out, it was so cool. I loved seeing your face on Tuesdays. And now, obviously, so there's been a few things that happened along the way. Because now you are enrolled into Midwifery, which was like, it's so exciting

to hear. you've started your own Instagram page where you're talking and educating so much on home birthing and birth. And I'm learning so much from you. And I'm loving your contents. Like, I think I said to you a few months ago now like you've got a natural ability with this. So it's really cool to see, you started photography, you've done all these really big things in a short amount of time. But I want to know what got you there? Like, what was it that changed

for you? Or like what happened to make you go actually, I'm not fucking stuck. And this is what I'm going to do and make me like, What what happened? Just I think I just started I started going to the modules of of the course and I started showing up to the calls and it just so much of what you said, landed it just it just made so much sense. And it was it just made me realise that anything is literally possible. Like if you decide you want to do something, there is no reason not to do it.

And the procrastinating bit for me came up really quickly. And I think it was in one of the first two calls you were like, request being a procrastinator isn't identity. What if you decided you were a get shit done kind of person? And I was like, Yeah, and also hearing that I was like, I haven't get shipped. I'm kind of person like that's literally who I am. I just I'm hyper productive when it cut when I've got like two hours and there's two kids napping. I'm like, Just too fucking much

sorry. Just you watch, how should I can get done. And I'm like, that's already who I am. But it's like I was ignoring that. That evidence and instead looking at the evidence of stuff I hadn't done because like, I've been busy, you know? Yeah. hectic. It's okay to say that wasn't a priority then. But now I'm making a priority. And I absolutely am the kind of person that can get that done. And that was just huge like that, just unblocking, that. That was the

identity shift. I call it like, which I don't think we got to identity until much later in the course. But that's basically what it was like, right? I was like, yep, that's who I am. I need to absolutely connect with that as the person that I am. Yeah, I remember that. I think it was week two. And you said I'm you actually said I'm a massive procrastinator. And I was like, I'm going to stop you there because that's an identity statement. And I'd seen that you're actually like, hello,

you're here with a newborn. And you're actually I don't know, and then to watch you because the very next day, you put stories up and you're cleaning the house and the babies were asleep and like, all this stuff was happening. I was like it's so interesting how we attach ourselves by just focusing more on on a weaker part of ourselves. When if we just looked at strengthening the other parts, those those other pieces would dissolve and you

did that before my eyes. And then it was just like bam, now I'm a photographer, bam. Now I'm doing this thing like really cool. And I think I'm interested because I know there's probably people out there who are listening, and I can even resonate like years ago being like, but how do I choose the thing like I've got all these passions, I love all the things and you seem to be the same very multi passionate, very like, yeah, just a creative and like, there's so much going on in your

world. So how did you get to a place where you chose a thing or chose or took the next step? It's such a great question. So I kind of end to be honest, I didn't even end up choosing. I actually was like, I love photography. And I've always wanted to be a photographer, but I've never done that. And I'm incredibly passionate about birth and birth education. And I really want to be doing that. And I kind of just went porque no, los dos. I love you. Sorry. was a really well done things

before this is over. But I just went, why don't do both. And I had this my sister, she's, she's amazing. And she was like, Could you take my photos? I just got she just got engaged. Take the photos of me and my fiance. And I was like, oh, first of all, I'd be absolutely honoured. Yeah. And I took the photos, and I looked at them. And I was like, these are actually okay. Good. Yeah. Like, and I've

always loved photography. And it makes sense that I've always gone out of my way to take off some photos as much as I can. And then I just put them out there. And I was like, Hey, does anyone want some free photo shoots, I want to get better. And that was like back in January. And now like, a couple of months later, I'm not charging for those photo shoots. And it's just like a referral, kind of, it's rolling. And it's rolling. So that just kind of I just took there was an

opportunity there. And I went, why not? Like, why don't I just try it? If I don't like it. I can stop literally anytime. There's no nothing tying me to this. It's just something I love doing. And as soon as I stop loving it, I can stop doing it. And just that having that, yes, how to choose was really important. And then on the education side, I just went, you know what, I just need to get out there and start sharing this

stuff. Like I was talking the ear off anyone who would listen, every one of my family or my friends were like, can you stop talking about this? And I had a great high birth, but whatever, they would say that to me. But yeah, that was like, I just need to put this out there to people that really maybe do want to hear it. And I was like, Screw it. I'll just start a page on a startup page. And I'll just start showing the things that I think and that I've experienced when it comes to having awesome

empowered bursts. And it's kind of just rolled on from there. You just sorry, interesting. Yeah, and wait, that's yeah. Like in as much as I was in my way. I just kind of went stopping after that. It's just Yeah, yeah, just there was so much lol that just just reflected that to me over and over and over again. Like, just why? Like, why are you doing the things you're doing? Is it with that? What's stopping you? And it was like, actually, nothing can literally pay, I have a

phone that can record. And that has access to social media platforms. I can absolutely do this. You don't need fancy anything. You just need to start. Yeah, it is. Oh, and there's, there's actually a little bit I want to like, I want to reflect back to you. But also acknowledge that like, you were doing the things but what I see underneath it is the person you are being and even the fact that right there. You said hey, like, I want to do five free photoshoots and just get better. Like to me that

right? There is like everyone's looking for like how to how do I do it? And I'm like, no, look at what's underneath. Let's look at the being and you're always happy to be a beginner. And you you know I happy to and humble enough, like humble enough to ask questions to want to be better to want to be reflected back some areas where you could tweak and like being the beginner is what created this result for you. Because you do

you drop your ego. And every single time you'd come to a call if you had a question, you were so happy just to say it and drop your ego and be coached. And like I feel like that was a real, you're almost a role model inside of the group for like, it's cool to bring a question. We fucking love that. And I also remember so there's that there's the one thing that I just need to reflect back to you, you've bought these results because of

you and who you show up as. And the second piece is because you had that mentality and that, like that mindset. You also came with like, Hey, this is what's coming up. And I remember like, it wasn't an easy, it wasn't always easy stuff came up. And what at one point what the thing that would come up for you is like, this is this could be like potentially, especially in the

birthing space. I could be saying things that other people are disagreeing with this could be quite triggering, like I don't know, like, it's, it was that whole like, I've always been the good girl and I don't want to upset people like, can you just explain like what was coming up for you as you started to put some of your beliefs out there into the world? Yeah, it happens really quickly. Thanks to good old tick tock. It's a wild and lawless place as

well. Probably the best way I can describe it Instagram is such it's like tweet on Granny's on Instagram. Tick tock. And I just started putting this all the time stuff out there on Tik Tok because I was on Instagram and because it's a broader audience and a couple of people stitched my videos and, and so they went, you know, overseas to like us audiences and stuff like that and went viral. And so I started getting a lot of people for who they kind of they had

the opposite experience. They had a really negative experience and the stuff that I was saying about how great birth can be just really upset them. Like what I was saying wasn't untrue, but it wasn't true for them. And so I was just started, honestly. So I got trolled, like really badly for about three or four days, like real hard. And it was really rough. Like, I was like, Oh my gosh, I don't know if I can handle this. Maybe I just I've literally thought about throwing the whole thing in the

bin. I was like, I'm gonna delete the page, kind of just go crawl back into my hole. And off I go. But instead, I would like to read about this. And sure enough, you were like, Yeah, that's not everyone's gonna agree with you. And that's okay. And that was just so important to hear. Like, I, I knew that. But I wasn't experienced, like, my experience of it was just like, it was very confronting.

And I needed some kind of, like, reframing of that, because it was yeah, it was a lot to kind of come up against everyone else had spoken to was like, totally on the same page. Though speaking to people who weren't, obviously it was going to be a different, a different experience. Yeah. And it just reminds me of that whole, like, if you stand for nothing, like, you stand for nothing, what was the what's the quote,

if you want? I don't know, I know, the seven, I don't know, you know, the one that I'm that it's like, you've got to stand for something. But to stand for something means you've got to have a pretty strong opinion and strong opinions are going to create, like the and that's fine. So yeah, opposition polarisation, like, your people will come to you and be gravitated towards you because you're standing for something.

And if we try to please everyone, we just please no one including yourself like, yeah, so do any years. Yeah. And watching the different? Yeah, like now you're just, I don't know, I just say like, when you can see someone standing in their power and what they're passionate about and what they're just good at, like, I really and I said that to you in like week eight or nine. I was like, You're just you're doing the things that seem to be quite

useful to you. And it's really cool that it gets to be like that. Yeah, it's it's so funny when you said that I thought about it. And I was like, You know what, I've been a singer for a lot of my life, I've always been emceeing events and like leading workshops, and it's like, I, that's where I get lit the hell up. Like, I walk away from like, in person events, where I'm the person leading them going, like, oh, my gosh, that was so good.

And so like, this is like a mini version of that, that I get to do daily, where I get to, like, preach and share and kind of inspire and encourage. And that's just like, that's just what I love. And so why wasn't I doing this sooner? This is like, Absolutely, this is like a daily little dose of like, just yet. Yeah, lighting me up. It's so happy. Um, I want to talk about something else that came up. And we've had conversations about this, which was, it was really beautiful, actually. And

it was around week 10. It might have even been before there. But week 10 is where we start to go into more of the like spirituality sort of modules. And we had a really cool conversation around language and terminology and religion and spirituality, and I absolutely adored it again, you bring everything to the table, and I fucking love you for that. So would you mind speaking to like,

what was coming up for you? And that kind of conversation that we had where it was like two worlds using different language saying the same thing? Yeah, absolutely. So I'm Christian. And that's, you know, I have a relationship with God. And a lot of the stuff that we were learning, I was like, this is not dissimilar. This is really similar. In fact, it's just kind of it's yeah, it's different words were being used in different language was, was, yeah, being put forward.

And I was like, how do you reconcile, kind of got like what I, you know, for me, it's God. And that's I, that's my faith. So I was like, how is that I kind of was just like, is this common? Is it anyone else having this issue? Issue, but like, seeing these patterns and how to like, bring the two together? Yeah, it was really interesting. I just was, yeah, just felt that felt really cool to just bring that up. And it was really beautiful, actually, because I had a few women kind of be like,

I'm so glad you said that. Like, I'm Christian too. And I was having the same thoughts. And I was like, oh, yeah, so beautiful. And that we've had all sorts of it's actually been a few religious backgrounds in there. And I think it's a really cool conversation to have because, like I said to you, I was raised in a Catholic school and my language was around God and

everything too. And because I put and this was like just my own personal experience, I had a few too many conversations from judgmental priests and like, religion, teachers, and the Catholic Church was a bit boring. And I wasn't the best religion student because I like to like, I like to poke holes a little bit. And so I rejected it. But then I found spirituality and manifestation and energy and that whole like

world of quantum everything. And what I started to notice was like, always, everything that I was learning in religion is coming back, all the quotes are actually making sense, like all the passages I used to read, and I started to after talking to you think, actually, I could actually probably go to church again, because I fucking miss the singing. I mean, we so happy, it's anyways. And that's just like one piece of like, connection to this other world is like music

is a beautiful connector. And it's just yeah, it just made honestly, that made me so happy when you said that I was like, Oh, my. And it's really cool. I think for me, it was another really good reminder of like, we can come to we can come to experiences with two completely different worldviews. And yet underneath, still all, like, it

doesn't matter. Like we can have different worldviews we can and we can have conversations and still have respect and still have love and often actually be saying the same thing underneath it, if we if we're willing to bring it to the table and to talk about it, to discuss it to be open. And just to be like non judgmental, and I really love that conversation that we were able to have.

Oh, thank you for Yeah, it just it felt like a really safe space to be able to bring that up and to share that part of me because it is, you know, I don't know, it's a funny one. In today's world, you do kind of shelter yourself a little protect yourself a bit because you don't know what other people's feelings and yeah, and worldviews are. So just being up being Yeah, feeling really comfortable to just be like, Hey, this is my situation. Yeah. Does that fit with everyone

else? And that was yeah, that's just the space you created as well, though, like, it was just such a, yeah, there was so much power in that collective. That's something else that I've really, really noticed is like, being surrounded by you and all these other women in the exact same headspace of like, How can I be the best version of me? That was just that, just knowing that not even no one even had, like, nobody even had to hold me accountable physically, like us?

Yeah, just knowing that we were all doing this thing together was enough to make me feel like, I gotta put my best foot forward here. I want to be the best version of Beth that I can mean, that was that was yeah, that was really amazing to see what that created

just in itself. Yeah, there's like a magic when you just know you're being in a container where there's a frequency that's a little bit different, like and just knowing that like you said, sometimes that's all all the change that needs to happen for you to almost like align yourself with that frequency and

step up a bit. And so just on that, like being in the room with the right people being and using conscious collective, like collective consciousness, what was your experience then at the end meeting everyone in person? And how did that sort of change or impact and influence you with the level of retreat? Oh, it was just so beautiful. Like it was I don't know yet. I just got so much out of it. Like I hadn't met a few of the girls previously because being the the student that I was, I was like,

hailed the pit girls. Do you want to catch up at Hyde Park? Like is that halfway through and so I like coordinated this little like, catch up and but honestly, like that in person stuff, like being able to see and meet and, and hug these girls and these women, it was like, it created so much in terms of like, just yeah, just understanding like, their stories and where they're at. And it was yeah, it was really amazing. Like that was that was

such a good morning. And my gosh, not to not to derail this like beautiful spiritual talk with dog food. But wow, that was tasty. That food was spiritual, like eating that was a spiritual experience. For sure. It was I say that every time because I know that lady like the lady who has the retreat centre, she does the catering and I'm like, I love your property. But genuinely, I just I'm here for your food, like is so good. nourishes the soul as much as it

does everything else. And it's a beautiful way to just have it run sitting around and yeah, yeah, it was really good. I didn't I wasn't expecting that. I didn't I kind of forgot. I didn't know that you did that. So knowing that that was coming. I was like, oh, yeah, and it's for me, especially this that one. Like it was only it was three or four weeks ago now. But I've still had my cup full from it. And it's just been seeing the vulnerability and like the connection. It's like there's no

surface level. It's like from the minute we walk in, let's have a quick cry. Let's I'm gonna cry and really be vulnerable and share things. And from there we get to really see each other and hold space for each other. And that to me was like also quite a moment of reflection of like, I want more of this in my business. So thank you for being part of that.

Because yeah, like everything in level up, you've just been so engaged such a like, you're so willing to learn to take action to see your blind spots to be coachable. Like everything you've created in the last, I want to say three months, but it's been a bit longer now. Yeah, it has been testament to you as a person.

Thank you, Bree. Thank you that it's you're you're such a vibe like it's honestly your your way of leading people is just so it's so I don't know, energetic, contagious, just delightful to be in in a pot of like, you really do create that. And then you just you lift everyone up to that, and it's really, really awesome. So thank you for doing what you do. It's been really awesome to I feel like I've known you for like years because it was nice to do podcast and

now here I am on it. And I'm like, Oh, that's cool. Bye. Feel that with you too, though. I might I feel like we've almost lived parallel lives like the singing being the creativity like everything you say? I'm just like, Yeah, I feel Yeah, I feel Yeah. So for anyone a actually just before I wind up there's one more thing I want to talk about. And this is actually something that I think is really fucking cool to just bring to

this space. You are moving forward into studying more Midwifery, you're doing a lot around the like home birthing space. What is your rate? What is your why? What lights you up? What is the reason that this is important for the world? I just got goosebumps when you asked me that. I had the most magical homebirth with my son six months ago. And it just, it really was life changing. Like I

left that experience. And I went holy hell, every single woman needs to this needs to be their experience like this, this level of like, just deep connection to like to body to self to your your new baby. Like it just, it was truly transformational. And I just kind of walked away from it going, I need to teach this to other women, I need to share that this is possible, and how to make it possible because unfortunately, the modern maternity care system isn't geared towards magical spiritual

empowered birth. It's all about medicalized, like, you know, risk controlled on time birth, and those like birth is not an easy pickings. It's messy. It's it follows absolutely its own trajectory. It's yeah, it's one of those things I feel like. And this isn't to say, and this is something I've come up against a few times I'm not anti medicine, medicine is a is a modern miracle. It's incredible that we have medicine to save lives. Absolutely. When when it's indicated. And when it's

necessary. It's amazing. And usually it's not needed. Birth is a physiological process that is inherently very safe. And so I just trying to teach women that that's the way of it like and all the evidence backs that up trying to teach women that that's how they should approach birth, because it is a really powerful and empowering thing. That's kind of where I've, where I've landed is that yeah, just need to know this. This isn't taught this isn't women don't

know this. We're not told this by our mothers and cousins and sisters anymore. We just have to figure this out on our own. So if I can be that person that can help leave a better imprint of birth. For other women before they go into it. That's that would be my privilege. So that's what I'm doing now. I just got goosebumps, too. And I have to just point out that like they're watching you when I said What's your why and then watching your spring into that,

like your face lights out. You get your your hands like you're just super Italian. Yeah. Like Lala, but like, your passion comes through so much. And so it's no wonder to me that you're doing what you're doing. And I think there's so much juice there. There's like, I always say like, your soul speaking to you and you've just got to watch what brings you joy and what lights you up and you just did it right there. So like I am so convinced that you're exactly where you need to be and

I'm so excited to watch. I hope that one day you can be my midwife like Oh, I love that. I hope that I can line it up in the right set of time. We will we will if not be like your birth photographer or something. I'll bring it back. So Mary photography. Yeah. I would love that. Oh, man. So yeah, I just know that you're doing what you're meant

to do. And I think like for anyone listening watch that like Beth was saying that her family and everyone was like Yeah, fuck we've heard like your you talk about this all the time. Like, where are those things that you just can't stop talking and that you find yourself getting? Yeah, the clues are there and you followed your clues and it shows so really excited and if anyone wants to find you for photography or anything like all the different things where will they find you?

So for all my birth content because There's a bit of an issue. I've got an Instagram page called The Birth rebels and a tick tock page, just the birth rebels. All one word, and then my photography is on my personal page Miss Beth can. So that's, I love it and if anyone's listening that's thinking, Should I join level up? I'm not sure what would be your message to them? Reckon do it. Just do it. That's my official advice. You will not regret it for a second. It is the best thing you will ever do.

Like just cannot recommend it enough. 11 out of 10 Let's do it. I think you can maybe cry again. You've already done that one. No, sorry. I'm sorry. I meant to make you smile. Happy. Happy. That's fine. Yeah, thank you so much for being here and just for being your fucking legend. No, thank you so much. No problem. See ya