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The Memo by Howard Marks

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On October 12, 1990, Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks published his first memo to clients. In the decades since, he has periodically released memos reflecting his viewpoint on the investment landscape, as well as more general business insights. On this podcast we'll hear the latest memos by Howard, released in tandem with or shortly after their publication.

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Episodes

The Insight: Conversations – Full Return World with Howard Marks and Armen Panossian

Howard Marks (Co-Chairman) and Armen Panossian (Head of Performing Credit) discuss topics related to Howard’s latest memo, Further Thoughts on Sea Change, and Oaktree’s recently published Performing Credit Quarterly 3Q2023 in this crossover episode of The Insight: Conversations and Behind the Memo. They consider the implications of the potential sea change reshaping the investment environment, the tail risks building in today’s markets, and what it means to be in a full return world....

Nov 02, 202331 minEp. 48

Further Thoughts on "Sea Change"

In his latest memo, Howard Marks provides a follow-up to Sea Change (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change), his thought-provoking memo published in December 2022. He argues that the trends he highlighted in the original memo collectively represent a sweeping alteration of the investment environment that calls for significant capital reallocation. Further Thoughts on Sea Change was originally sent exclusively to Oaktree clients on May 30, 2023. All market data cited in this mem...

Oct 11, 202334 minEp. 47

The Insight: Conversations – Credit Picker’s Market with Wayne Dahl, Robert O’Leary, and Mark Jacobs

How have credit investors been successfully navigating the volatile interest rate environment? Which sectors currently look attractive to opportunistic credit investors? What are some of the major misconceptions about today’s commercial real estate market? In this episode of The Insight: Conversations, Wayne Dahl (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit), Robert O’Leary (Portfolio Manager, Global Opportunities), and Mark Jacobs (Co-Portfolio Manager, Real Estate Income) discuss topics from th...

Oct 05, 202329 minEp. 46

Behind the Memo: Fewer Losers, or More Winners?

Howard Marks discusses his memo, "Fewer Losers, or More Winners," exploring the balance between offense and defense in investing. Using tennis as an analogy, Marks highlights the importance of understanding one's skill level and risk tolerance to determine whether to focus on avoiding losers or seeking more winners. He emphasizes that there's no universally correct answer, but it's a fundamental question every investor should consider.

Sep 20, 202331 minEp. 45

Fewer Losers, or More Winners?

In his latest memo, Howard Marks discusses the essential choice in both investing and sports: should you go for more winners or try to eliminate losers? That is, should you emphasize aggressiveness or defensiveness? This is a key decision that every investor has to make thoughtfully, and the answer can be different for each person. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/fewer-losers-or-more-winners)....

Sep 12, 202336 minEp. 44

The Insight: Conversations – European Credit at a Turning Point

Learn about the current state of European credit and the dramatic changes seen over the last year in this thought-provoking discussion with Armen Panossian (Head of Performing Credit), Madelaine Jones (Portfolio Manager, European Senior Loans and European High Yield Bonds), and Nael Khatoun (Head of European Private Debt). They consider the challenges created by the end of the easy money era, risks posed by geopolitics and artificial intelligence, and the quality advantage that exists in Europea...

Sep 08, 202342 minEp. 43

The Insight: Conversations – Fighting the Fed with Armen Panossian, Danielle Poli, and Megan Messina

Armen Panossian (Head of Performing Credit), Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit), and Megan Messina (Head of CLO Capital Markets) discuss topics from the 2Q2023 Performing Credit Quarterly . They consider the current tug-of war between fiscal and monetary policy, opportunities in credit, and what many investors are getting wrong about today’s CLO market.

Aug 08, 202334 minEp. 42

Taking The Temperature

In his latest memo, Howard Marks discusses five market calls he’s made during his career. He argues that investors seeking to take the temperature of the market should focus on understanding prevailing market psychology and the nature of cycles. Just as importantly, they should learn to control their own emotions and have the humility to know when not to make a call. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/taking-the-tem...

Jul 10, 202349 minEp. 41

The Insight: Conversations – Performing Credit Quarterly 1Q2023

In the first episode of Oaktree’s new podcast, Armen Panossian (Head of Performing Credit) and Howard Marks (Co-Chairman) discuss key takeaways from the 1Q2023 Performing Credit Quarterly , including the potential ramifications of the recent banking turmoil, opportunities in private credit and a possible rise in distress. As part of the discussion, they explore Howard’s memo Lessons from Silicon Valley Bank .

Apr 20, 202336 minEp. 38

Lessons from Silicon Valley Bank

In his latest memo, Howard Marks discusses the significance of the Silicon Valley Bank collapse. He argues that it likely doesn’t portend a wave of banking failures but may amplify preexisting wariness among investors and lenders, leading to further credit tightening and additional pain across a range of industries and sectors. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/lessons-from-silicon-valley-bank )....

Apr 17, 202345 minEp. 37

The Rewind: Calling The Market

Howard looks back on several memos he’s written near major turning points in the market over the last few decades, from the bursting of the dot-com bubble to the pandemic-driven crisis in early 2020. He considers what an investor should – and shouldn’t – focus on when making a market call.

Mar 07, 202340 minEp. 36

The Rewind: Ditto

Howard is joined by Bruce Flatt, CEO of Brookfield, for a discussion of Ditto , which was originally published on January 7, 2013. They examine the distinction between price and value and consider how investors might gain a competitive advantage today. This episode was recorded in November 2022. The memo is read by LJ Ganser.

Feb 02, 20231 hr 12 minEp. 35

Behind the Memo: Sea Change

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses his most recent memo, Sea Change . He explains why the shift we may currently be experiencing could force investors to rethink the meaning of "normal." You can listen to Sea Change in the prior episode or read it here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change).

Jan 05, 202320 minEp. 34

Sea Change

In his latest memo, Howard Marks writes that the investment world may be experiencing the third major sea change over the last 50 years. Events in recent years – especially the spike in inflation and the Federal Reserve’s response – appear to have caused a reversal of the market conditions that prevailed during the post-GFC (Global Financial Crisis) period and for much of the last four decades. Howard discusses what this potentially new era could mean for lenders, especially bargain hunters. The...

Dec 13, 202237 minEp. 33

Behind the Memo: What Really Matters?

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses his most recent memo, What Really Matters?, and looks back on a year of memo-writing. He considers the themes that have dominated his thinking in 2022 and highlights his key messages for investors, including one they may not want to hear. You can listen to What Really Matters? in the prior episode or read it here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/what-really-matters)....

Dec 06, 202223 minEp. 32

What Really Matters?

In his latest memo, Howard Marks weaves together some of the themes he’s explored in 2022 to explain what he believes really matters in investing and what doesn’t. He discusses the disadvantages of short-term thinking, the difference between volatility and risk, and the one word he believes defines the essence of investment excellence. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here ( ).

Nov 22, 202253 minEp. 31

The Rewind: Global Financial Crisis

Howard reflects on memos related to the Global Financial Crisis with Bob O’Leary, Co-Portfolio Manager of Oaktree’s Global Opportunities strategy. They share their most striking memories from the years leading up to and during the crisis. They also discuss today’s market environment and consider whether investors have forgotten many of the lessons they should have learned during this tumultuous period.

Oct 13, 202235 minEp. 30

Behind the Memo: The Illusion of Knowledge

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses key themes from his recent memo, The Illusion of Knowledge . He explains why creating helpful macro forecasts is so challenging and why “thinking about macro” and forecasting aren’t the same thing. You can listen to The Illusion of Knowledge in the prior episode or read it here ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/the-illusion-of-knowledge )....

Sep 13, 202223 minEp. 29

The Illusion of Knowledge

Howard Marks has long questioned the value of macro forecasts, but in his latest memo, he explains why creating profitable forecasts is so difficult. He discusses the incredible complexity involved in modeling an economy and makes it clear that forecasting mostly provides the illusion of knowledge. He argues that investors are better off accepting reality — that the macro future is largely unknowable — and focusing on what they can know. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here ...

Sep 08, 202253 minEp. 28

Behind the Memo: I Beg To Differ

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses his recent memo, I Beg to Differ . He explains why investors seeking to outperform need to think differently, be exceptional, and be prepared to look wrong – even when they’re right. You can listen to I Beg To Differ in the prior episode or read it here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/i-beg-to-differ).

Aug 04, 202224 minEp. 27

I Beg To Differ

Howard Marks’s latest memo argues that investors seeking superior performance must have the courage to depart from the pack, even though doing so means accepting the risk of being wrong. Thinking differently and better than others is key to outperformance, he explains, because in investing, it’s not enough to be right. You have to be more right than most. This means being able to tell when the investment crowd is focused on all the wrong things. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the me...

Jul 26, 202248 minEp. 26

The Rewind: Something of Value

Howard reflects on this memo, originally published on January 11, 2021, with his son Andrew Marks. They discuss why open-mindedness – at all ages – is key when investing in a rapidly changing world. Andrew is the co-managing partner of TQ Ventures, a technology-focused venture capital firm founded four years ago that has over 80 portfolio companies. You can read “Something of Value” here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/something-of-value.pdf). The memo is read by LJ Gan...

Jun 16, 20221 hr 25 minEp. 24

Behind the Memo: Bull Market Rhymes

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses his recent memo, Bull Market Rhymes . Howard explains why investing keeps getting harder and why looking to the past can potentially help investors better analyze the innovations that may – or may not – shape the future. You can listen to Bull Market Rhymes in the prior episode or read it here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/bull-market-rhymes)....

Jun 02, 202217 minEp. 23

Bull Market Rhymes

Howard Marks’s latest memo explores recurring investment themes to contextualize the current market correction and the bull market that preceded it. He discusses the role played by financial innovations like SPACs and cryptocurrencies and why he believes psychology, not fundamentals, primarily drives investment cycles – and likely always will. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/bull-market-rhymes.pdf?sfvrsn=df8b4b66...

May 26, 202244 minEp. 22

The Rewind: Lines in the Sand

Howard reflects on this memo ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/lines-in-the-sand.pdf ) originally published on April 18, 2017. Following up on his classic memo You Can’t Eat IRR ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/2006-07-12-you-cant-eat-irr.pdf ), he discusses why financial innovations that can artificially boost IRRs, like subscription lines, should be treated cautiously and why no single performance metric tells the whole story. The memo is read...

Apr 28, 202245 minEp. 19

Behind the Memo: The Pendulum in International Affairs

In the latest episode of Behind the Memo , Howard discusses the origins and important themes of his recent memo, The Pendulum in International Affairs . Howard explains why one of his favorite metaphors – the pendulum – can help investors understand psychology, markets and foreign policy. You can listen to The Pendulum in International Affairs in the prior episode or read it here ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/the-pendulum-in-intl-affairs.pdf?sfvrsn=53b17666_7 )....

Mar 31, 202221 minEp. 21

The Pendulum in International Affairs

Howard Marks’s latest memo connects two seemingly unrelated trends – Europe’s energy dependence and U.S. offshoring – to explain why the pendulum of companies’ and countries’ behavior may be swinging away from globalization and toward onshoring. This shift will likely create risk for investors but also opportunities. The memo is read by LJ Ganser. You can read the memo here (https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/the-pendulum-in-intl-affairs.pdf)....

Mar 23, 202229 minEp. 20

The Rewind: It’s All a Big Mistake

Howard reflects on this memo originally published on June 20, 2012. He discusses why understanding mistakes – both your own and others’ – is key to superior investing. He’s joined by Bob O’Leary, Global Co-Portfolio Manager of Oaktree’s Global Opportunities strategy. You can read the memo here ( https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/2012-06-20-its-all-a-big-mistake.pdf?sfvrsn=17bb0f65_2 ). The memo is read by LJ Ganser....

Feb 24, 202254 minEp. 18
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