Ep. 692: MeatEater Radio Live! A Southern Uprising, Brent's Elk Savior, and a Turkey Serenade

Smell usnow, Lady, Welcome to meat Eater Trivia met Eater Podcast.

Welcome to meat Eater Radio Live.

It's eleven a m. Mountain Time.

That's twelve o'clock for our friends back in Arkansas, the real time of the world on Thursday, April seventeenth, and we're live from the Meat Eater headquarters in Bozeman, Montana.

Snowy Bozeman, Montana. We're your host Brent Reeves.

Klay Newcombe and Mark Kenyon.

We own today's show.

We're going to be serenaded by a news worthy turkey track by my buddy mister Reed Bargaineer also known as Reed's Piano News. After that, we have two listeners submitted hot tip offs that the winter. The winner of that is going to receive some new Bear grease and this country life merch which looks very nice by the way.

Yeah awesome, I just loved that.

Uh.

Followed by that, we're going to do the one minute fishing with our friends at Trout Unlimited. And finally we have each of us have brought a memorable item that we're going to share for show and Tell.

Show and Tell.

Can I just say I am more excited? For that than anything else today. Really, I so badly want to show and tell you my story. I can't wait, can't wait. It was one of the best things.

Be really good because expectations are sky high.

I will.

I'll tell you what expectations of minors sky high. Is Read's song.

Yes, that will be good.

I cannot wait for Reid's song. And I'm very surprised they didn't ask me to play live music.

I am not I'm not surprised.

I got to stick up for my bandmate over there. I'm not going to put up now.

If me and Phil we could take the house down.

If they hadn't had Phil Podcaster, if they hadn't had Phil playing the harmonica like a solo every week, why would they have you up your singer.

I mean, there's got to be like a taco shell for the taco, a bun for the hot dogs.

So you are the taco shell.

I'm the taco shell.

Yeah, a lot of directions.

We shouldn't go on this one. Let's move on.

I mean, let's tell them what kind of what we've been doing this week. Tell them much what you were doing with Johnny.

So yesterday we were we came to Bozeman yesterday and uh, we were shooting guns. We're testing out several theories of the way that guns perform. I mean, can we tell exactly what we did?

I think we can. Yeah.

So the yesterday we tested the idea of the rush gun. So everybody in the in the South anyway, I don't know. Maybe out west it's not as big a deal because there's not as much brush. But in the South there's a lot of brush, a lot of brush. Corey and people talk about brush guns, like a specific caliber or bullet style that's able to shoot through brush. So we did some some testing all day long shooting through brush.

What did you do? Oh man? I had the worst and the best job ever. But we did a segment on losing zero off your scope and we abused a sea rifle and scope out there.

I love this idea.

It was sad. It was sad to do it, but we learned a lot.

I think people are going to find it really interested, and especially the way we finally knocked it.

Do you want to tell off zero?

You can't.

You can't give away what happened.

I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

I mean, the people that listen to meteor lives should be rewarded.

I'm going to tell you. I want to tell you this. I'll tell you. We dropped it, We held it. We dropped it knee knee height. We dropped it holding it straight out like this and I'm holding my hands for the folks that get they're not watching us, right out in front of me, straight out in front me, and dropped it on the scope and then we would check the zero. And the final thing we did involved a case, a gun, case, case, and a truck in eighty miles an hour. And now I'm gonna leave it at that.

What I wish you had done, which I understand you didn't, was test my worst nightmare, which has always been getting up into my tree stand and then somehow the gun falling down to the ground from the top of from twenty feet up in the tree.

Right.

That would have been an interesting one to.

Say, yeah, absolutely, well, maybe we'll see give us another.

That would have been a good test. Another good test would be to be up in the tree stand, have your gun up there, you fall out of the tree stand and then crawl back gone still on.

Hey, Yanni put strapped on the back on his backpack and then fell down the hill on So it was that worked pretty good? Yeah, no stuff man, he does all his own stunts.

So also today we get to or I get to judge you too, cooking immediate to roasts, which I'm very excited about because two things are going for me on this one. Number one, I love to eat, so I get to eat your food. Number two, I love giving you a hard time, especially club.

I do love giving you Mark. Mark is my best friend. I treat him like the day you will get to that, you will get to uh, you will get to judge us cooking.

Yes, I will, and I will not bring up that dead mule you try to sell your one buddy.

It's used to be best friend. Hey, Medea to roast.

The newest episode of that dropped today and it's got Kareine Schneider and Maggie Huddler, who's the editorial chief. Korean's obviously the the Grand Poopa of producers here and podcast producers. And you can see that on the YouTube channel.

You've got a comment from one Alexis Reeves. She's in the chat. She says Clay puts mushrooms in his chili. So he's out.

He's out on.

Alexis reeds on it. She got me.

That's my gal.

How do you come back from that?

They give you all little context of that. Clay did a video social media. He's cooking chili in his house and Alexis is watching and sitting on the couch and he takes a double handful of mushrooms and drops him in his chili and she looked at me. He's like, we can no longer be friends to play.

I said, I took of all the things I've done in my life. I took more heat for the mushrooms and chili from my wife, from my kids, from Alexis.

That was like three years ago.

Oh gosh, bred it was ten years ago.

Really.

Yeah, Well, I can't wait to see what comes out of the show.

Today. We're doing meat Eatter trivia too, yeah. Friday, Yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow, you know. And what about some flat fishing? You and Corey went out fly fishing.

Wah wah wah.

Oh Clay, someday you'll you'll understand, he'll grow fish. Well, yeah, you're right, trip, Yeah, we went fishing yesterday.

It was one of those trips where.

We thought we might get pounded with rain and the possibility of winter weather incoming.

Uh, but we decided to go for it.

Anyways, did a really nice float five six miles and it wasn't happening.

But we had a great time.

So you didn't You didn't catch any fish.

Moved a couple.

Alex our our our grand puba of social media, as Brent might call him, He caught one and that was it.

Yeah.

That's the problem though, is that you know.

If somebody catches a fish immediately upon starting the trip, that's either, you know, a great sign or a very bad sign. And that ended up being the case.

But good to be in the Uh.

I've got a podcast coming out tomorrow that's gonna feature our our musical guest. Today, I went hunting with Red and Alabama and got to hunt on some really cool ancestral land, met some great people, some friends longtime family friends of Reed and his father, and got to meet his father, doctor Paul Bargaineer.

He's worked on your teeth, he did not.

Yeah, he pulled this one out and I brought it with me. Got we got to hang out with with Reed's oldest son Barns too great kid. I left him with a turkey call the man he was. He was sounding good when when I left. I hope, I hope his mama hadn't hit it from him by now. But hey, we had you got going.

We We had a podcast drop yesterday and Bear Grease that I'm really excited about. It's called Confessions of a Former Outlaw and it's, uh, every now and then, uh, you run into somebody with a particular story that's really great. I mean, if I could find twenty six Johnny Johnson's to interview every other week for the Bear Grease documentary style episode, I mean, Joe Rogan would be begging to come on my podcast. It's a really unique podcast and it's it's the title says quite a bit.

The guy.

The guy was a was a It was a turkey outlaw and you ought to go listen to it. And interestingly it's also being played on the Meat Eater feed today as I understand it. So it's called Confessions of a Former Outlaw and it's a it's a human story. I mean, it's a story about this guy's life, a living man from Oklahoma, south south east, south east Oklahoma and Uh, it's a pretty powerful story. Got some hooks and some shockers and some yeah a little bit.

When you tell me, like, have you listened to it yet, I'm like no, And then you'll give me a brief ops of what's going on, and then I'll listen to it for the for the render. But yesterday and he said if you listened to it yet? Or day four yesterday said if you listened to it yet? And I said, no, not yet, And you said, I'm not telling you nothing else. You just got to hear it. I listened to it this morning. It's it's really good, really good.

So check that out, Marcus.

You got something just dropped recently.

Yeah, so a day two days ago, my latest film hit the Mediator YouTube channel, which is what I'm pretty excited about because it's it came from the surprising news that I've read like four years ago, I think, when I came across this article from the Alaska Fishing Game saying that there might be mule deer and white tails showing up in Alaska for the first time ever. So I read that article immediately, I thought, that is fascinating. Yeah,

By, hey, we got a waking wheel.

Yeah, squeaky wheel. I want to learn more about if this is happening and what it means and what's going on, and long story short, finally it came together and I wasn't you know, I originally wanted to go and try to go on like a sasquatch hunt, you know, like go and try to find this mysterious, possible first whitetail in Alaska and actually roam that area, walking around and interview the people who claimed to have seen them. And when we started kind of going down that road, and

The native deer species, learn more.

About this area southeast Alaska, spend some time with some Native Alaskans or I mean residents of Alaska who have seen some of these critters and get a sense of what's happened.

And then talk to Alaska fishing game.

You learn you learned some stuff I did, surprise and.

Stuff, really interesting stuff just about how much is changing in Alaska. And I think, being from the lower forty eight, when I think about Alaska, I don't know what you guys, but when I think about Alaska, it still feels like this untouched pristine like it's still how it used to be there. But then when I started asking questions to folks who've lived there their whole lives, they're talking about all these things that have changed just in their lifetime.

That definitely had you.

Run Admiralty Island where yeah, yeah.

They call that the Fortress of the Bears, yeah, really the highest densities of brown bears in the world. And yeah, so it was very accuracy.

In the chat is asking how many bears did you encounter if you have a number.

Yeah, we didn't encounter any. They were around us. There were a sign of them all over the place. And it was so funny, like going into the trip, that's on your mind a lot, like how do we everything you did you were taking to account, all right, how do we mitigate any possible risk with bears? Where are we going to camp, how are we going to get there? How do we approach the hunt plan? You know, what about when we get a deer down? All those things? And then of course it was there was nothing to

Yeah.

It was a great film, Mark, thank you. I see somebody up there saying talking about the whole thing with Yannis about do we make films or do we make episodes? Mark Kenny makes films. It was really good.

Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.

I liked it a lot.

It was it was it was a fun one work on.

You know.

I almost hate to say this, but talking about in your film you talked about Okay, well sorry, go ahead now. In your film you talked about how the temperature in Alaska has changed more than the lower forty eight, Like you know, there's like these glaciers melting and stuff. I think in our lifetime we'll see as the as the temperature becomes more mild than Alaska, potentially more people going up there because it's been a barrier to entry, just how harsh the winters have been.

And that's quite likely.

Man. It's it's snowing outside right now, and I'm worried that we ain't got enough bread and milk. We're gonna, we're gonna, We're not gonna make it.

You are Did you send your girls to school today? Did you call it and be like, no, sweetie, it's snowing in Bozeman, you can't go to school, cambitd Arkansas Free Day.

I don't talk like that.

Are you sure?

I'm gonna talk to a guy that does talk like that. He'll have a different accident when we talked to him today. And that is my buddy Read Bargaineer. He is a returning Radio Live guest and he's also as at Reid's piano news on Instagram. That's how I met him.

You know what's funny, as I've always thought his name was Reids piano.

To I just kind of looked at that really quickly and never really thought about.

A bargaineer, like a hybrid between an auctioneer and a bargain shopper.

That is lame.

I think it's a low grade of French.

If I had to guess, read, welcome buddy.

Thanks man, glad to be here. And Clay and Phil, I don't if you want to lay down some taco shell on this, I've got no issue laid down some taco That's amazing.

Read.

Uh.

Just last week I was with Read down in Alabama and hunting on his family land, and I did, like I said, The podcast is coming out tomorrow is all about that. But man, what a treat there was. We stayed in a in a in an old home place. It was built in nineteen o two and on the in the four yer when you walk in the front door, on this big front porch, there is a signed land grant document from President James Monroe. It was dated eighteen twenty two. Is that right?

I was thinking he was dead.

Yeah, eighteen twenty two on February the first actual that actual documents in there. And so there's so much history with with his friends families that own that land and then Reed's family that owns the land that we that we hunted on. That was That was great, man, that's cool.

We had a good time, as much fun as you can have without killing a bird, in my opinion.

Yeah, I think the cats out of the bag.

But uh, that turkey, that turkey that we tried to kill is still goblin. Matter of fact, you heard him this morning, didn't it.

I did, Yeah, Clay, I listened to your podcast on the way down.

It's a it's all cool for sure.

Yes, it's fantastic, but yeah, we I mean in my head, it's like, and I feel like I'm gonna get a reputation as just a guy that likes to likes to go hang out with his buddies in the woods way early in the morning in the spring because I haven't doing a lot of bird There could be worse things, but you got to kill a bird at some point otherwise you're just you're just hanging out.

Now.

I got a question about reading, and that's sorry. Yeah, but but Brent, Yeah, I know some people who are very musical musically inclined who do that thing where they kind of sing everything that they're doing or what they're saying to you.

It's like, hey, will you get that catchup?

You know that kind of thing.

Does Reed do that?

No?

And I don't know anybody that does that.

You don't know anybody that does that.

No.

My wife says that my mother Juju, my sweet mother Juju. When she is asking an awkward question, she sings.

It really is like.

That dresses a little like she's like, uh, you know, like the food got a little cold.

I do that.

I do that when I really I can feel the urge to yell at my kids, but I can't, so I'll be like, you really need to clean your room now.

Because I'm getting Oh I should.

Probably Tyler Tyler and Casey from the Element do that a lot. Yeah, they're always singing what's going on in their lives.

So yeah, there you go.

Pretty interesting.

That's insite, all right.

Speaking of insanity, there was something that happened in the grocery store Biil. Can you play that video? Oh?

Yeah, see it might be a little loud, but I can't control the volume.

Here we go, all right.

Very at this point in the door officers in Indiana found themselves dealing with a particularly tough customer. A turkey entered a Martin store in Saint Joseph County and proceeded to knock over merchandise and chase customers. After some deliberation, a brave officer grabbed the large turkey off the shelf, safely escorting him out of this store and back into the wild.

Now, man, that puts a that that puts a whole new spin on the frozen food isle right there.

When I'm impressed that sucker by the spurs and I mean he did it.

He did it.

Man.

I saw that video, and there's a somebody says in the video, whoever's filming, says, watch out for those talents.

Talents. Yeah, yeah, And I'd have done I'd have gone over by the frozen milk and hunkered down and.

Frozen milk, frozen milk.

Section, frozen milk.

I think you know what I meant, I really don't.

The dairy section, the frozen Yeah, to me is what I'm trying to say. Rather than go in on him and and and it wrecked that predit or that flight response. I would have tried to get him on the on the issues of love.

Sometimes you should just be quiet, all right. From that incident, Reid has been inspired for this next musical number, take it Away.

Yeah, all right, we'll do it. By the way, it's so much more normal seeing this to a group of three guys than just Phil Taylor.

I felt I felt very special in taking care of yesterday during.

Uh yeah, this is maybe Brent, we were just looking in the wrong places.

Yeah, here we go.

Three days bred reeves. Well, he's a turkey calling fiend. He left Alabama without a tread a turkey meat.

Maybe it wasn't once not the midmorning fields.

We should have been trying to sound like Hussy hens.

We should have to stay at the wall on one there green and then the turn.

He was just checking out froze in sech pizzas. We all not have lit dead fignings for so long.

We have a grocery store long beard dead on.

The wall.

That is out.

Give me give me estimated time of your how long it took you to write that little diddy?

That would anytime I can work Hussy into a song.

Oh man, that's awesome.

Okay, brother, Well what's what's next for your hoss?

Uh?

You know, lots of kids baseball and trying to figure out time to get them back out.

To the woods. Okay, good deal, we're around.

Man, Thank you for coming again.

I had a blast.

Oh yeah, we got to get John David out there and get Barnes and I hope you Daddy Paul. I'll hope you all all just smash him. But I know Turkey seasons were still running down there, so I might I might be free to come back. So Mike Clay, now Clay's busy. Hey, I want everyone to go. Thank you, brother, I appreciate you being here. And y'all all right, guys, y'all read. You can check read stuff out at at Reid's Piano News on Instagram.

Read ought to have a million followers.

He should have.

I mean when I first started hearing him, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go to this Instagram page and it's gonna be a dude with a million followers.

Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's grown exponentially, I think since he's been on the on the show here.

But way, it's stuff that's really.

Really almost not every day, but multiple times per week. He sings the news. That's what he does.

Something.

You know something, You've got a good news story, he's gonna.

And the songs are often more complex than that multiverse great choruses. I mean, he's no Phil Taylor, Clay Nukelem, but yeah.

Of course not.

I tell you what that dude is is the humor hads. How good of a piano player? Oh, I mean you gotta kind of take second stage. He's really good.

Yeah, I can see that.

All right, we're ready for our next segment.

What have we got?

Our next segment is called hot tip On.

Turn your head and get hot.

Like this.

Wow, Phil, that is an outstanding hotter tip off.

It's a word for it.

Hot tip off is where two listeners go head to head with competing pieces of advice. Now, after we hear each tip, we'll declare which one we think is hotter. If you have a hot tip, take a one minute video on your phone and email it to radio at the Meat Eater dot com with the subject line hot tip Off. This week, our competitors are Size Need and Drew Henry, and they're competing for some of our new bear grease. And this country life.

Logo where those can't be real names.

Folks and chat please chime in. All right, let's hear the hot tips.

Drew Henry, Hey, what's up.

Welcome to a hot tip. My name is Drew, and I'm working on some whitetail from this fall. I'm at the point right now ready to start packaging. I like to use freezer paper, and I used to like to use plastic wrap. But my hot tip is for you to go down to your grocery store, talk to your local produce clerk and have them sell you a roll of produce bags. This one I've had for about three years. As you can see it's getting down there. It served me well. I just bought this one recently. I think

It's really nice.

You can give it a good squeeze and get all that air out of there, give it a spin, tie it off. Once you got everything bagged, you're ready to start wrapping. When you go to thaw this out to eat it later, you're not gonna have a big mess in your fridge.

There's your hot.

Tip that.

Sealed.

Yeah, hey, there eat RadioLIVE size need coming at you with a hot tip off.

You've got your freezer here, it's full of meat.

Hopefully Your wife says, hey, what you run out there and grabs another freezer for dinner.

And say, well, what do you want?

Because I don't know what do you want?

I don't really care, it's up to you.

Well, what do we have in the freezer? I'm not sure.

Well here's how you know. Get you a little.

Whiteboard like this magnetic. It was like four bucks, I have them here my moose, oh sammon blah blah blah. So I can run out of here and I say, hey, you got twenty one pounds of grand moose meat out here. What do you say we make something with that? And she says he sounds good, makes your wife happy, makes your life better. And if your hord backstrap's like me, you kind of can check it every time you walk by. It's a little bit like checking the stock market.

Yeah, feel good.

This guy's a showman.

Anyway, get you one of those, enjoy it and your life will be better. You heard it here first, Okay.

I do like keeping track of stuff like that.

That is what is spreadsheet.

I was like, man, that's a lot of calculating.

Well here, I think.

It's full Brent.

If anybody here needs something to keep them organized, it would be you.

I mean, when you're just when you got so much meat, so many deers, so many turkeys, so many elks, so many moods. I've never killed a milk so many.

I've seen the backseat of Clay Newcomb's truck during hunting season, and this is the thing that I've never seen before, and it still hurts my soul. I once opened the back door of his truck and he has loose climbing sticks just thrown all over the place in there.

They're not even strapped together.

You wonder about you? Wonder if my tennis shot is up to date before you get in the back of this.

Yeah, I can't argue what the man says is true.

Okay, but I'm gonna tell you what my vote is right now, and it's size need.

I love that, m I like that.

I mean, we have a pull open in the chat right now, and guess what you guys are going to be selecting the winter you all in the live chat, so oh so it doesn't even matter and you know you're just providing color commentary. Mark, I'm sorry to take away power.

Please, you know I've got a side. Was a showman. Appreciated the passion. I admire the organization. I think it's a bit unrealistic. It's kind of like seeing like some celebrity talking about something that you're like, dude, live in the real world.

Yea, we have an allegation on the TV. I don't know if you you can't.

Yes, we weren't talking.

We weren't talking about my truck.

We were talking about clothes.

For the audio listeners, Alexis is claiming that Brent's truck is also awful.

Well, just for that, I think, to add on to what you're saying, Clay, I love his idea that keeping track of everything, but to get that done, it takes a lot of upfront work because you've got to count everything. You've got to update your chart every time you add something new, So that's adding, you know, more more work to your schedule.

Right.

While the first guy Drew his little baggy idea saves the time, because that's going to be faster than cutting all these individual pieces of plastic wrap and wrapping them up individually and trying to make sure I'm always not cutting it long enough.

This is what I heard Mark Kenyon say, I'm lazy.

Eficient anything but lazy.

I liked, I have a vacuum management.

I have a vacuum seatter, so I vacuum seal all my stuff, which is what more or less what Drew was.

Yeah, when he was doing it, I actually thought you could probably suck almost all the air.

Out of there's just there's still plenty in there. But but I have one so I mean the organ and a vacuum seal that it's all pretty uniform and I can I can put it in there like a grocery store pretty much.

So.

But the the idea on the on the listing of everything, I like.

That, you know.

I think maybe Drew's though his expectations of people's ability to do something out of the out of the norm is maybe hire like Drew probably has a lot of people's skills. It's able to go find someone in the produced section, haggle with them, get something that's not for sale. That takes a special man to do that. So hat tip to Drew. Also, maybe it's on the side of unrealistic too.

I'm gonna I'm gonna end the poll here in about ten seconds, so get those get those last last second votes in if you want my vote for Drew.

I like them both, but I'm voting for Drew.

Mark's got we got Drew's got one from Mark.

No Clay, Clay he had to pay Drew.

I'm going with I'm going with Sy. Well.

The winner of the poll is Sy Snead seventy over seventy percent of the vote, so he kind of cleaned up there.

I know audience a bunch of dreamers out there. Yeah, congrats Sy, Good job, Sy, it's a great tip.

Good job. Okay, let's see snipe side needs to holler at feel are you Corey.

I'll reach out to Corey.

You're going to reach out to him, Corey, reach out to you and get all your squared away on all your plunder that you just won. H how about some more listener feedback.

That does not have someone named Alexis reasons No, you can just call on her.

At any time unless it's disparage and remarks about.

Sure only glowing things about Brent. Yes, let's see here.

Thank you, alexis.

Uh. This is for Michael.

Question for Clay or Mark tips on getting started in the writing world. Oh wow, this is kind of a big, big question here, But how'd you guys get curious about.

Factor a little bit? Mark's writing a book, writing another book right now. Yeah, first book has been out for five years now, that Wild Country. Do they know what you're doing?

Clay Well, Mark is a writer. Mark is a published author, incredible book, that Wild Country, and he's writing the second one. So Mark, take it away.

Okay.

So the very fast answer to that question would be getting started in the writing world.

First, you just got to do it.

So don't wait until someone gives you a contract or a deal or a public publication opportunity.

Just start writing more and more.

Flex that muscle, exercise that muscle.

Get good. Number two.

Publish, publish, publish on your own So use whatever platform you have, whether it's substack or a blog or little things on your Instagram, whatever, you got to put stuff out there into the world so that eventually opportunities for people to read your work give you feedback. And or give you opportunities arise. So practice, practice, practice, put it out there, put it out there, put it out there.

And then network.

Talk to every single person that you possibly could, who might you know, have a connection with some kind of publication someday build those relationships. And slowly, if you do those three things over and over and over again for years, opportunities arise. And when those opportunities are present themselves, you have worked enough in all these years behind the scenes, getting good enough at your craft that you can meet the.

Moment ernest Hemingway wrote naked, So there's always that, do you guys don't.

Moving on? And we got another one up there.

Yeah, this guy has submitted this question three times, so he's he's chopping at the bit to get an answer, and I don't know what he's talking about. Maybe you guys a question for Clay, will you ever do a bear grease podcast on the treeing feist breed of squirrel that's there's something special about a treeing fight.

Well, Phil, that's a ridiculous question. Yes, there is something very special. That's the kind of squirrel dogs that I hunt, and it probably would be a great bear grease podcast. No, plans to do one. I am planning to have a feist man on the bear grease renders soon. A real deal guy over in Arkansas that raises a lot of squirrel dogs.

But they're there.

Yeah, it's a really fun little little breed of dog. That's what my dogs are, my squirrel dogs.

Yeah, they're cool dogs.

They are good.

Yep cool.

A question from coach Bowman clay or Brent curious on your taake on why dove hunting is so popular but you don't hear much about pigeons. Just serious, why pigeon isn't considered a game bird.

I don't know anything about pigeons or what they even taste like. And I'll eat about anything I can get hemmed up and get skinned. But dove hunting in the South is a social event more than anything.

I mean, isn't a pigeon an invasive bird?

I don't know.

I mean we wouldn't have pigeons. I mean, like there might be some pigeons like living under the bridge somewhere, folks, Steve, I mean, I think doves are a native game bird. So to answer your question, I mean it's a native game bird that lives in the wild. Very broadly distributed across the country versus an invasive bird.

That's my question.

We have mourning doves, those are invasive two in I think so.

The common pigeon is also known as a rock dove, and they are native to southern Europe, North Africa, and western Asia. Now, in Steve's first book, he writes quite extensively about pigeons and eating little baby pigeons, really pigeons squabs that.

I've never seen.

It was big in Europe.

I think in France that was a squab.

Yeah, but I've never seen that. You ever seen him like a runt just flying around someone. I saw that somewhere. All the pigeons you see here look like they're all the same size. You never seen a juvenile one. They grow quick. What's up with that?

Let's move on.

I got lots of questions about it.

This is more of a cheecut question. But con Man is asking. He says he's going hunting with two of his brothers on Sunday. He's yet to kill a longbeard, only jakes. How do I go about asking to get the first shot on a tom when I'm taking them like clay and be quick.

On the trigger. Yeah, I don't ask, just beg for forgiveness.

There you go.

I feel like if I was your brother, though, that should just be like the good, the right thing to do, you would.

Hope you'd think.

So it's turkey season, Mark, that's ruthless.

Down south, it's different, Yes, sirry my brother.

My brother used to he would was listening for a turkey that wasn't there.

I took a mounted turkey foot and I knew where he was listening, but he wouldn't tell me. And I made tracks in the mud and off the ditch bank where he was stopping and listening, and I asked him, I said, are you hearing the in turkeys?

He said, Man, where you're listening? He said, ain't gonna tell you.

He said, but there is signed everywhere, but I ain't heard one yet. And I'm like, we'll just hanging there, buddy, he'll be there now. That kept him off of my spot. You really.

With his brother, they shared everything except turkeys.

No turkeys. It's every man for himself.

Then we'll do one more and then we'll we'll move along. Here Cattison is asking, I think he was the one who also piped in with the films versus episode debate. Uh yes, and he went through slash December Archery Elk tips. He drew his first elk tag in a primo unit outside of the road.

Yes, on the wrong.

Yeah, the wrong guys here for that one break killed. You've killed, I've killed one.

Yeah, Clayson never killed.

Note Corey, you gotta ask for that.

Oh well, Corey, you can get on mic, I can cut to your camera. So I'm kind of embarrassed how sloppy it looks over here. But there you are.

Archery. I mean they're gonna be in there.

I don't know what state you're playing on hunting, but they'll be in their winter range by then. Bulls will be all bachelored up together, typically out in sunshine in the morning and bedding on a south face somewhere that's not too snowy. So do a lot of glasses, look for tracks, fresh sign and uh yeah, good luck. It's hard to stock elk in the snow with a bow.

Are there Archer seasons open in December right here?

Not around here.

I'm trying to think where that would be, Washington perhaps, all right.

I don't know. Drop us a drop us a pin catison, We won't tell anybody m Chat Live.

All right, is that good?

Feel We're good on this?

Yeah?

Well, well I will tackle a few more questions at the end of the show. So you have any more questions for Brent clayer Mark, who knows when they will be back on Radio Live, get them in.

Yeah, we'll get fired.

Ye.

All right, on to our next segment, which is One Minute Fishing.

I am excited for this, right, Lucky, We'll do you bunk, go ahead, make my cast.

That's you, isn't it? Phil? That outstanding?

Appreciate it. One minute Fish Channel my Inner Eastwood.

One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have a one minute to catch a fish. If they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group. And for the whole month of April I or April as we call it in Arkansas, our friends that Trout Unlimited are joining us for one minute Oh wait a minute, let me read this again. I'm confused.

And for the whole month Oh I got it.

Education I figured out.

For the whole month of.

April, Trout and Limited is joining us for the one Minute Fishing episode. Okay who wrote this Corey Spencer Spencer figure trout. This week our angler is Tanner bell Knap. Tanner is on a spring creek near the Salt River, somewhere on the border of Wyoming and Idaho, and he's fishing for a donation to Trout Unlimited. Tanner, Welcome to the show.

Let's go Tanner.

Tell us about yourself, man, what what what's your claim to fame?

What do you do for a living?

I don't really have any claims to fame, but grew up in Alabama and Ohio. Been fishing and hunting since I was old enough to walk. Grew up fishing out in Colorado every summer and fish some rivers that try to limit it saves by fighting for minimum stream flows. So since I was a little kid, I kind of thought it to you. Employees is super Euros and UH in Ohio through middle school and high school, I volunteered to Traddle Limited and Project Healing Waters just hundreds of

Uh.

Also on the Wyoming BHA board. Uh, right when all the corner crossing stuff started.

So that's been pretty cool as well.

Awesome, man, you busy as a cat in a sandbox. We uh, we asked y'all to highlight some important watersheds across the country for this segment. Tell Us about the Salt River watershed?

Is that well, now we're getting a little bit of an echo feedback there, Clay. It did sound like a duck though.

Tell us about tell us about the Salt River watershed.

Uh.

Yeah, Wyoming uh.

Is a really special place because we drain in the Mississippi River, the Colorado River, the Bear River, as well as the Snake River. The Salt River is part of the Snake River headwaters here really unique. It's a place where cutthroat trouts still dominate the main stem.

Can you guys hear me all right over the way?

Yeah?

Yeah, okay.

Cutthroat trouts still dominate the main stem of the rivers here, which doesn't really exist anywhere else in the Rockies. Usually they're isolated the small tributaries, and the Salt River is a really unique spot within the Snake River headwaters. It has the most fish per mile of anywhere up here, as well as the biggest fish. It has a ton of spring creeks and slews and really good groundwater influence that helps keep tem slow in the summer and warm in the winter, so it's really productive.

The river is highly degraded.

If you spend a lot of time on Western trout streams, you'll see it when you're floating it. Of the ten major tributaries, of them are fully dewatered every year. About ten miles of the river itself are fully dewatered every year. There's extensive bank erosion and sedimentation issues. There's all a large scale removal of willows and riparian vegetation back in the early and mid nineteen hundreds, and that plus grazing and other things have just led to a very over

Awesome, man, I gotta jump in yeah, Jo get in there.

I just got to say that I love this region over there. I spend my summers out there in a large part of my best moments in life have been out there. And I'm so appreciative of the stuff you guys are doing because those snake river and yells don't cut throat trout in that region are absolute gems of the natural world. Those rivers are so special and uh and yeah, they need they need our attention. So so thank you, Tanner. And I also got to say, are

Oh, I live about two blocks away from the Bullers.

I don't think.

You probably got a chair in there.

That's a great spot.

Yeah, next time you're here, I'd be happy to put you on some big fish.

Come in.

Don't say things you don't mean.

I mean, all right, let's talk about what we're fishing for today, Tanner. What are you targeting today?

We didn't even fish yet.

No, yeah, we got a fish, and how and what are you going to do?

What are you fishing? For and how are you going to do it?

So I'm fishing for native snake, river cutthroat, potentially a brown shrout, and there might even be a white fish in here. But really whatever old bite been out here for about an hour and a half and had two bites.

Oh wow, I just saw a shark right behind you.

Odds are stacked against you, Tanner.

You can do it, yeah, but we uh, we saved the best pool for this, so I haven't even cast it in there yet.

So there's there's a chance, all right.

The drawing, Okay, I want you to I want you to take your time, but hurry up every chance you get. And as soon as that fly hits the water, we're gonna start the timer.

Come on, you got this, Tanner, Pull the big old flat head out of there. Please don't pull a flat head out of there.

One if he needs to stretch before we starts.

Is he is he fly fishing?

Yeah?

I think he's run on the trot line.

That's that?

Is that a hoop net?

Tell me what you got.

Gotta We got a triple rig here just to maximize the odds. We got a pats rubber legs to an egg to a cell.

Oh yeah, love the dirt cell out there. There we go, ray back, here we go falls.

Nice technique. Come on, baby, manage that line. Come on, baby's commend it.

Park, Yeah, what's going on?

What he's doing here? He's got this this nice little I don't know. The opposite bank. You can see there's some moving water, there's a faster current. He's trying to move his fly through there while maintaining it what's called a drag free drift with his three flies. So he's going to be flipping the fly line up so that the drift of his fly matches the speed of the current.

A big old, beautiful snake riller cutthroat trout, and I will be so excited. Come on, Tanner.

Unfortunately, that's the im right there.

Description of fly fishing I've ever heard of my life.

That was like, you should be an Augusta.

Oh I love it.

That was awesome.

Almost cried.

Downside of a triple rig and sometimes you.

Look, yeah, that's me with a single rig right there.

That'll happen.

I don't think the heavy back wind helped me out very much.

I'm sure it didn't.

Attempts.

You're also doing that in front of four million people right now that are watching. At least you did great, Tanner. Give me, give me, give me your pitches for what's going on for Trout Unlimited. You got any local events or some stuff that we need to be aware of.

Yeah, you mind if I mentioned some of the project works with work we've done here.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So in the Salt River watershed, I just started a little under three years ago, but our work here started a bit before then.

Uh.

We've done about seven miles of full scale habitat restoration work on tin Cup Creek, one mile on Swift Creek, about a third of a mile on the Salt River. We've replaced or retrofitted three different fish passage barriers on the Salt River. And then for upcoming projects, we have about three and a half miles of full scale habitat restoration on the Salt River coming up in the next year and a half. We're just working on raising all

Tell me about Okay, let's tell the folks where if they want to support you, where they going to find you? Where can they join your organization and all that stuff.

Yeah, you can join Trout and Limited.

Just google it and that helps us a lot, especially with some of the uncertainty we've had funding recently. Just having a strong membership really helps us out. Then the Star Valley Chapter, we're actually holding an online sweepstakes right now for a Wyoming Commissioner license.

So a Wyoming Commissioner license.

Whoever wins it gets to choose between any deer, elk or prong horn tag in the state of Wyoming. I sent you guys the link for that, So that's the first prize. The second place prize is a real nice Tika two seventy with a Swabsky scope, and the third place prize is a nice pair of binos. But you guys can help spread the word on that we're trying to raise upwards of forty thousand dollars, and we're about seven hundred right now, so.

Wait, let's get it in there.

He didn't win the five hundred dollars donation to tro Out Unlimited because he didn't catch a fish, but I'll personally donate two hundred bucks as soon as we end this episode.

Right now.

I don't make play Nukem money, so I can't do the full five hundred, but I'll fund at least two hundred dollars of donations right.

After this to support what you do with your wife. Before you do this, I didn't.

I'll hear for I like it.

I'll hear about later.

Wow, big money, Tanner. Thank you so much.

Man. We appreciate the effort and especially the effort what you guys are doing that whole organization. It's after you're doing some great work and we appreciate it. And Mark's two hundred dollars poor because of you. Also, fourth place in that contest gets to fish with hangernades.

Thanks Tanner.

Wow, Thanks Tanner.

Okay, is this a new segment we got going here? This new?

No, it's not. It's been a while since we've done it, but it's it's it is not new now.

I do watch, but I have a short memory your name. I'm looking forward to this. I know Mark is really looking forward to it. It's called Show and Tell.

Man short out man, short stap man shortly into the eighties.

He's only he's always ripping.

Is that?

What else did you expect?

Sorry, get in very mixed signals from you, honest about our friends.

Telling us he's number that we're number one.

Okay, here's what we did. Each of us brought in an outdoor related item that we want to talk about. This is exactly like the elementary school version of Show and Tell. Remember the eight years you were in elementary school.

I remember the first thing I ever brought the show until.

Okay, well let's see what y'all brought play.

Well you got in second grade. That third grade I think was the first real show until I had And I remember I brought my dad the biggest buck Gary nukomb believer nukeomb ever killed. He had it sawing off and I brought.

It to school.

So dang proud of it. Carry my dad's bucking.

But that's pretty cool to tell us this.

Hareah, folks, Mark, do you want to go first, I would like for you to go first. I mean, I'm to give you the best slot. You think the best slot is the last, I'll let you go.

I'll take it now because we're running out of time, okay, and I won't get to gloat.

In years.

Right now, I have with me to show and tell a fly that caught my very first tarpain ever. So you just heard me do play by play on someone's fly fishing, So you can tell I love fly fishing well. Tarpinary saltwater species that I've dreamed of for many, many years and attempted to catch on fly rod for a handful of years now, and finally about two weeks ago, finally got done. So this little purple and blacktail. Uh no, but uh, I don't know if the deer look like

Come on, I mean I would call that a bucktail.

Jig.

I bet money that's bucktail.

We got to picture.

But yes, So, to make a long story short, this fly caught my very first tarpin ever, which was a baby tarpin. That one's not the baby, the smaller fish with the baby tarp Yeah, caught that one off the dock of a rental home. There were these little schools of fish coming through, and my kids were out there watching and saw one moving through and was able to cast out in front of it enough and strip strip strip stripped it in and that little guy not little, I mean it's two foot long.

That was awesome.

And then the next day I was able to go out with a buddy on a skiff and fish for adults, and I caught my first real tarpin, which is that sucker there on a fly It's like big game hunting tarpain. Fishing with a fly rod is the closest connection I've seen from fishing to bow hunting. It was like sitting in a tree stand day after day after day, and then a boone and crocket buck comes in at twenty yards and you have just seconds. I mean, you're out

Got plenty of time, there's no time.

My fly line is in my left hand, and then it comes tight into the bony mouth that like a bowling ball mouth on the fish on the other side, and you feel that it feels like you're connected to note fishing pole. Well you do, but the fishing poles pointed directly at that fish. So in the moment at

How far? How far was the cast? How far was the shot?

Twenty foot something like that?

Oh so twenty two.

Are you compelled to memorialize this fish with a replica?

No, but I will cherish that photo and that memory you don't want to rep hanging in your house.

I don't think my wife would allow it.

Marking two hundred dollars for trout.

Yeah I do. I do love them, but I've got too many deer mounts.

No, mounts are not allowed in my house anymore unless it's one seventy plus or like somehow astronomical mark does not speak for the rest of us.

By the way, what do you reckon that fish? Ways, Mark?

We thought it was like seventy five some pounds something like that. Jake thought that Florida in Florida.

Yep, this is down Florida.

Yeah, and I will be tarb and fishing every year that I possibly can make it down there.

Looked, Oh my goodness.

I know you catch and release them, right, Yeah, cat, you release and I literally you can't even take a fish like that out of the water. So I had to hop into the water with it to Uh, you can't. It's illegal to take a fish that's over forty pounds I think in Florida out of the water. Yeah, And so hop in there with it, and uh, you know, was able to snap a couple of photos.

And hold this fish.

Mark's kind of hogging and showing.

Yeah, I just stop speak.

But before we get off the topic of fishing, Spencer wants you all to commit to doing a minute fishing for this show time in the near future.

Yeah, cut me in.

They usually have cute names for these flies. Do you know the name of this fly?

I don't know the name of this fly. I think it's just a tarp and streamer.

I think it's tarp jig.

That's what it looks like.

You use purple.

I think it's too soft to be buck tail.

I don't think so.

Buck tail is a little more of course.

I think that's well, that's synthetic.

Mark.

This isn't even genuine.

You cheated.

I don't care what it is. It works.

It was a great that was that's a great passion story.

I loved it.

I have no doubt that that's like compelling. How much time do we have? Are we on a time on? Got no time on?

No?

I thought you were gonna cut us off at one hour?

Oh sweet, okay, well the show case, that's compelling.

That's good, brother.

So I would say my story really is comparable in a way to Marks in that it was a kind of a long time idea that came to fruition up two years ago. I killed a bear in Arkansas with a stone point. And so in archery, you know you can you can take archery to the extreme of going like super primitive, and uh, I had I wanted to

I believe in.

Natural sink control. Mark Okay, yeah, But this point that brought this stone point because this this is a fulsome point, which a falsome point is a a A it's in it's full. Some points were found in fulsom New Mexico discovered in out a bone pile of bison intiquis. We did a whole series on it by a man named George mcjenkin was the one who found the bison pit.

I can.

You did it?

Why do you think they did it? Yeahration by penetration.

Skin, Your broadhead's going to penetrate better.

Than I mean, that's a that's a very simplified answer.

Thank you that that is.

Partly right.

But they were bigger.

There had to be more reasons than that for the difficulty they went through. But this actual fulsome point is what we call a replica, like a fulsome man didn't make this right. Eleven seven hundred years ago, a man named Tony Sores in California made him, and he is arguably the most skilled man on the planet at making fulsome points. There's a collection of people that can make them a lot of flint and appers can make them, but Tony Sores is one of the best in the world.

And uh passed that on before he dies. A.

I mean, I hadn't talked. We're not that good of friends. I mean, like I don't really talk to him about dying and stuff. But uh, but he's he's a great guy. So maybe he does well. It's like a trade secret. It's like if you it's his business like he he does. I mean, it's he does a lot of other stuff, but he he sells like high end fosal points. You can buy him from him, and uh, and so it's

Very cool attached to.

Arrow shot.

Yeah, so this, yeah, this was the the era that shot the bear with and and I got about like eleven inches of penetration. The bear fell within sight. The bear actually you can see it roll on camp just barely.

Did that goes through the shoulder blade.

It it didn't go through the shoulder blade that the It did not go through the scapula, No, it did not. It just barely missed the scapula. But it was a it was the shot wasn't it was? It was a good It did good. But I kind of short stroked the bow when I shot it even so close. I was not hurry and baron Nuca, my son killed a bear out of the bear.

Pit this year.

There's a film on METI, your YouTube channel about that, a film.

Have you guys been nominated for any film awards for these films?

So and not yet not yet. Me and Mark make films though, did you see.

Mark Mark also a filmmaker.

Yeah, yes, Wisconsin Outdoors had a great idea to get the official answer. I just started a poll. Films or episodes, please get your opinion in.

Look a show would wouldn't tell episodic content and we don't make episodic content anymore, at least us.

I mean when there was like hunting with Yanni, you know, you know whatever they called it.

All you do is just take away the title of the grouping of your episodes and they become films, is what you're saying, Yanny.

It's just like so many things in life. You know, It's like you're either a turkey hunter or you're a turkey hunter.

A tight pole, tight pole, get your votes in and so you can make a difference.

Is that.

What me and Mark do is an art?

But what Yanni's does?

I mean by his own.

Proclamation, I'm not saying I think Yanni makes art. Maybe I think Yanni makes films. He's he's the one that's arguing with me.

Okay, if you're not going to fight, we're going on.

One last question.

Okay.

Trying to make these yet oh yeah, well not false some points. He can nap, though, he can he can make a functional point.

I've seen him napping.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, good napper too, but.

Nap all Right, here we go.

This is mine right here, and this is as I so eloquently spoke to my friend Corey Colkins about it. He said, what you bring it for show and tell? And I said an elk fang And he said, is that anything like an elk ivory? Like yeah, or that you can call it that too. But this is this is exactly what this is. And this was from my first one and only Elk that I killed in two thousand and eleven, and there is a crazy story about

This is the video from a film from twenty eleven.

This is not a film.

Listen, Oh this is good. Did you ever score this bull? Yeah?

He was two inches off poping yond.

All right? Now listen, listen, listen, help here? Can you pause it right there to take a shot?

Now?

Did y'all hear that click?

That audible click?

Did you hear that?

Oh? No, I just heard the bugle?

Well, he like half he like three quarter bugles and then got spooked by something.

And there was For the folks that can't they can't see this this this bulls walked into a water and hole and from where he's at right there, he is nineteen yards away from me.

Broadside, and I had there was a blind.

Now we're in the window open and got a couple of bushes in front of us. We're on a real steep grade, and the cameraman, the guy that's filming is sitting right to my front the way he just had to sit angle in front of me instead of behind me because of where we were. And when that elk walked up there and was dream and when they started bugling, my guy, the guy was hunting with, said, when he starts bugling, go ahead and pull back. Said lots of times they won't see it. Now. Whether or not that's

So the arrow was just setting knock out of the arrow.

Yeah, yeah, and no, I just pulled the string out of the knock. It's the arrow was intact. And I turned loose with my finger because I went crazy and lost my mind and thought that would help. And that arrow, that audible click you here is that arrow falling off and hitting the riser and it's hung in.

The arrow rest.

And if you can turn the audio up loud, you can hear me say talk to the camera man and who can't see it because he's partially in front of me and looking at the camera. I can't shoot him. And he's like, why not? I said, my ar come off my string and he says put it back on. He said I can't. He said why not? And he turned and looked and he saw me at full draw with a blank and that arrow hanging off, and he reached and grabbed that arrow with his left hand and

We've gone back.

Listen for the click.

I went back a few seconds.

Oh now I'm holding I'm at full draw holding a blank right there.

That bull saved my hunt right there.

Because he took his attention. Oh it did he fully?

Now he started. This is when when the era of things going on, Because you see the camera guy's not following following the bull. Now bam, he's right there. And now we're talking how far is he is? He forty five?

Twenty five?

Now he's like thirty something, he's like forty right there.

But I had measured, I had ranged a stick up there at fifty yards and you'll see it right there.

Yeah, that stick was sticky getting away.

Did your mouth stop?

Yep ooh that'll do it.

Arrow it was.

He was at fifty yards.

Oh, let's see reason twenty eleven.

Oh look at that beardless Oh my goodness, shaker, I'm all about to lose my mind.

He was holding his breath the entire time.

Looks like just the start Yep, there he is.

That was seventy yards from from where I was sitting.

Incredible.

Yeah, it was a great he Uh that era hit left uh, hit liver, left lung and you could have not more center punched his heart than.

That as the heck of a shot.

Yeah, it was. It was fun, a crazy deal, crazy experience. When I'm ready to do again sometime, all right.

Boys, Uh, do one more quick round of feedback here? Yeah yeah, abs, yeah, it sounds good.

Uh.

Let's see here, Mark, I can't speak to this. Maybe you can, Kevin says, have you been up north near Gaylord and seen the forest devastation. How do you think this will impact deer hunting?

Sorry, I have nothing up there.

Okay, what is he talking about? Those storms that come through must be well, I'll answer for Mark Kevin. I think it's gonna be great for the deer hunting. It's gonna make it thick and wooly in there, and disturbance. Disturbance is always a good thing, So don't look at it. It looks bad to your eyes, which is why he's calling it devastation, But in all honesty, is probably gonna be great.

For not just the other Nature calls it a Tuesday, that's right.

Chase asks, well, if he says, Clay Brant, my buddy is on day three of getting his butt whooped in the land between the Lakes Kentucky, and he tips on how to bag one of those southern deep woods thunder chickens.

Man, you gotta hang on from from that latitude. I've been talking to folks. Clay's been talking to folks. The hens are starting to get away from them up there. So just if he's on turkeys, just hanging there with him, Eventually you're gonna catch one.

By on all day. I think guys if they go out and they don't hear birds and they're like, man, it's not that you know is doing it.

Yeah, if you got on all day, I think it is there.

I think it is there. I mean, uh, I heard some guys killing birds late in the evening that didn't gobble in the morning.

Yeah. I men, reed got on one the other day at ten twenty in the morning. Normally you hear a turkey gobble at ten twenty. He's going he's gonna get to ride in the truck. It didn't happen because of the in situation, But I would just say, you just got to hang in there.

Cool, Wayne says Phil. You got to address the dude wipe's conspiracy in the Q and a portion if you guys don't know. People think that I sound like the guy who sings the dude wipes jingle that's that interrupts all of these shows every single week. I legally cannot say. I will say that when I want to feel a little more fresh down there, I only reach for one product.

Oh man, the book. We're in hot pursuit of a great book on the American Black Bear. I mean we're like in the heart of it, and but it's still it's still weighs out. I mean as far as the sneak peek, I'm gonna be dropping a few nuggets here and there. But uh, yeah, thanks for asking.

No official timeline, Yeah, well.

No, yeah, ruggets on the nuggets, that's right. Yeah, it's coming along good though.

We got a little nugget last night at dinner.

It was very interesting about put Mark to sleep. Come on, No, I'll be glad. I'll be glad to recount that.

No, No, what's next, Phil.

I'll feel this one for Jordan Saillers because we've had a few questions about his awesome Hunting Cold Case episode that we dropped earlier. There are no concrete plans, but we loved it. Listeners seem to love it. It was really well done, so I can almost guarantee that there will be some in the future. We just do not know when. But just like, send Jordan your love on Instagram or something.

Yeah, I'd like to add that I had very little to do with that. Jordan did that from the ground up and did an absolute excellent job. It was really really good. Research was awesome. The way he presented it was good, and I was I was really proud of how that turned out.

Question from Keith last year, I snort weezed in three mature bucks. None gave me a good shot opportunity. I'm considering getting a decoy. Should I go with a buck or dough?

Personally, I'd go with a buck.

I think in that kind of case where you're having success getting bucks interested in the snort wheeze, that means there's a lot of competition in the area. Those bucks are riled up, they want to take on their competition and they just need to see. Just like turkey hunt, they need that final thing to get them to commit into shooting range, and a buck would likely be the

Up and ornery years laid back.

Yeah, hard to beat that.

Favorite off season outdoor activities besides fishing? Is there any any other hobbies? Rodden mules, matt Remy.

A coonhut year round, proud instead. I do that a lot this time of year. As a matter of fact.

Camping, hiking, backpacking, that's our thing.

Cool. Uh, you know what, I think that was a pretty good show. What do you guys think?

Awesome? Hey, Mark, Clay bow Yanni, thanks for trespassing, Phil Corey. This was a good deal, a good time. I appreciate everybody watching. You'll be tuning in next week when somebody will be hosting them will be nearly as handsome as me, and probably times