Ep. 374: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XXVIII

and cooking, and there is a prize. Meat Eater will donate five hundred dollars to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. Now, Kelsey, this is your first time playing trivia. How do you feel about your odds? Well, I'm gonna beat Seth, that's for sure, you think so? Yeah, no doubt any input there? Uh? It honestly good. We we need a new rivalry in the room. And after this episode,

Jim will be the only guest who has played trivia twice. So, going into your second round of trivia, how do you feel about your chances this time? Jim, I'd like to donate to the milder foundation. Okay, he is. He is very confident. Now. Every episode we reveal a new trivia stat and this week we're looking at Jim's performance. On episode three oh seven, Jim got seven correct answers, which was good enough for second place. He lost to Steven

Ronnella that game, who got eight right answers. They were both tied going into the final question, but Jim couldn't come up with what fish goes by the nickname copper belly. Steve knew it was bluegill and that gave him the victory. Jim, you feel only different about fishing questions this time around? Or do you still lead confidence? When he? I think my performance today depends on the number of bullshit fish questions. Okay, hey, did you throw him? I did not. We hadn't adopted

that rule quite yet. He I would consider, is Jim this time second? No? Not at this point. No. Jim is a guest, so he will get one bone throwing him Now. Although Jim couldn't pull off the wind, he is tied with Andrew Zimmern for the most correct answers by a guest, So Jim, you do have that going for you. On a previous game of trivia. We have

some housekeeping to get to here. On a previous game of trivia, I said that the world's longest mule deer migration is a one hundred fifty mile journey that starts and ends in Wyoming. This event is referred to as the Red Desert to hold Back migration. But our very own guest, Jim Heffelfinger, wrote in to let me know that in biologists discovered an amazing extension of this journey that changes what we previously knew about this, dear hurt.

So Jim, tell folks about dough number two fifty five. Yeah, no, number two fifty five. Everybody talks about the Red Desert to hold Back. It's been it's been illustrated and studied quite a bit. But as you said to thousand eighteen, this one dough Toft did that Red Desert from south

central Wyoming to hod Back and then continued left. All of her herd mates continued up into Idaho for a total of two two mile one way trip, extending that so it does not stop in in Wyoming, UM, but continues on to Idaho and and and then extends that which is the longest migration in the lower forty eight for an ungula, and I think they said she's now done. It's six times over that she's done that same journey,

so it's like a real migration that she's pulling off. Yeah, right, she did that the first time, and and so they didn't know that was just some errant movement up that far, and so they waited to see if she was going to come back, and her radio collar failed, so then they had no idea. Was that just a a spurious thing?

And then every year they capture more animals and red desert on the winter range there, and in the course of capturing it, they captured her back in the Red desert, put another color on, and then have been monitoring ever since. Well it's amazing. You watch an animation of where that dear travel to get there, and you're like, okay, it's gonna stop here, all right, it can't go any further, right, Like all right, that's it, right, and it just keeps going.

It's just crazy. One of the people who worked on that project actually wrote in and said that they discovered another group that is peeling off and going into Idaho, making that a two d mile migration, which beats the traditional red Desert to Hoback, but do to right now holds the record. Now, the Shelby Index for this round of trivia is a two and a half. So this is a tougher batch of questions. I don't know. I don't think it's a really tough batch. I think maybe

it's more. Uh, there's more questions that are true to our four verticals, that are more endemic less non endemic questions. So it's a tougher batch. Uh if you're not a hardcore hunter and angler. And with that, we're under a game of trivia. Play the drop, Karin, Look, I need to know what I stay under. Win we're saying, how I'm saying, just tend to win everything, suckers. Question one. The topic is fishing, and as always, this will be

multiple choice. What Fishing Line Company created the not Wars video series in the mid two thousands? Is it power Pro, Suffix Cast, King or Berkeley? What fishing Line Company created the not Wars video series in the mid two thousands? Was it power Pro, Suffix Cast, King or Berkeley? Chester? Seth? Did you boys know this one? No? No, I don't. I don't know If this I don't know if the series great series, I gotta go watch it. If you haven't seen it, does everybody have an answer? Go ahead

and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Berkeley, Jim saying Berkeley, chest You're saying Berkeley, Brody saying Berkeley, Corey saying Suffix, Kelsey saying Suffix, and Seth saying Berkeley. The correct answer is Berkeley. In this room, as much as you need, you better be worried about me. Berkeley created a custom not strength testing machine and use it to

gather data on dozens of knots. They finally crowned their champions in two thousand and ten, declaring the fish and fool not the strongest not for mono or braid, and the triple loop knot the strongest for floral. You know, I feel like we could take our Warrener bracs or Sheer force tests and just do not strict tests with it. Yeah, probably, but you know, just it measures resistance, but points Steve a lot of the times then not won't break in the line. Will first like, if it's a good type knot,

you need to go watch the series. It's great. They found it. They found probably like ten knots that would actually increase the strength of line. So if you had twenty pound line, they found some that would go a hundred and thirty percent of that strength and they were hitting like seven pounds of force before it was busting. Really cool series. You learn a lot. Question to the

topic is conservation. This is our listener question of the Week, which was won by Phil Hooey for sending this great question. Phil is going to get a signed copy of The Scavengers Guide to Cuisine. If you want a chance to win the listener question in the week, then send your question to Trivia at the meat eater dot com. There are three states where wolves weren't extirpated. Named two of them. There are three states where wolves weren't extirpated. Name two

of those states. How do you feel about this one? Jim? I think you had the quickest answers in the room. I feel pretty good, but not a dent. Let's see, Steve, you know this one? Do you know all three? You think? Okay? Everybody have an answer? Just looking for two of the three? Chester still thinking? Do you have one of them? Chester? I think okay, you'll be good tune. Chesters thinking and drinking. I think that's that's probably done all right. I think

it has been. That was random kind of a little bit well, you know, whenever I look at I try to think of songs for just saying at your Lives show in Atlanta, thinking and drinking, that's stupid. I think that's been done by multiple country artists. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Alaska and Minnesota, Jim saying Minnesota and Montana. Chester you're saying Alaska and Minnesota, Brody saying Wisconsin and Minnesota, Corey saying Wisconsin and Minnesota,

Kelsey saying Michigan and Montana. In Seth saying Washington and Idaho. The three states are Alaska, Minnesota, and Michigan. So the room did pretty well. Although wolves were extirpated from places like Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, New Mexico, Arizona, and Wisconsin, they were never fully removed from Alaska, Minnesota, or Michigan. Michigan was actually down to just one confirmed mail in nineteen fifty nine, a year before they ended the state's

bounty program. Did Montana not have some that were crossing back and forth on the border. I might have to send you an email. Okay, yeah, tricky because they were crossed. They were periodically crossing the border, and say the other Missigan that like like the lake would get a good freeze and someone scored across. You know, this was according to the US Fishing Wildlife Service, so you can argue with them, Jim, like, there were definitely periods of time

when there were none in Montana. Question three, the topic is cooking. What herb comes from the leaves of coriander plants? What herb comes from the leaves of coriander plants? Guy? Should all know this? Why is that? Krane? Don't give too many hands? Shut your trap. I'm not saying anything, Okay, a pretty heavy hint though. Anyway, I'm just trying to think,

like what what cuisine is coriander? Just do are like I'm thinking, but I'm thinking in my mind straight on this poet and banter, I'm thinking in my mind one more time, whatever comes from the leaves of coriander plants? Bro? Do you know this one? Steve? You know this one? Well? We have folks still trying to come up with an answer. Corey, how you doing over there? Not good? Okay? When are we going gonna come up with a formal amount of time at which you're done thinking the podcast needs an

informal amount of time. Just so a question and breathe. We canna have some banters? No no, no, no, no no need to Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying cilantro, cilantro, Chester saying I'm reagano, Brodi sanging cilantro, Corey sang time, Kelsey saying human seth without an answer. The correct answer is cilantro. Now, this can be confusing because the dried seeds create the coriander spice, but the leaves and the stock are known as cilantro.

Cilantro is the Spanish name for the coriander leaves and is grouped in the Parsley family. You want to hear a little tidbit about cilantro. Certainly, um something like of the population has some genetic predisposal to like cilantro tastes like three and me can tell you if you think cilantro tastes like soap it. Yeah, it's heartbreaking because I love cilantro. Yeah, same thing in our in our marriage.

I love cilantro. Shelby hates it Wasn't there one thing in Hawaii that we had that you said it was all right? Wasn't it like that that dip that we used with that goat or that sauce that because everything else drowned, drowned the taste of the cilantro out. Yeah, but it's not a slant. But it's the previous question. You know, you said you felt dumb for not thinking of Alaska. It was one of my favorite quotes I

heard from a History Channel executive one time. He said our audience, he said, the only other country our audience is interested in is Alaska. It's true too by their show line question for the topic is hunting. This next great question comes to as Va Matt Campbell. If you have a question you think is right for meat Eat Trivia, you can send it a trivia at the meat Eator

dot com. Now this is a visual question. If you want to play along and see what the room is seeing, then go to Instagram and check out at Spencer new Hearth. I'll make it my most recent post. Well, maybe you could put it on because Instagram stole Jim's Instagram account, maybe you can put it on his new Instagram account, and he could try to recover there you go. Have you recovered all the followers? Yet he got his back and I'm knocked in the dirt. Here is the question.

These are considered to be the world's oldest duck decoys, which were discovered in a cave in Nevada. They are thought to be about two thousand, two hundred years old. What kind of duck is the decoy imitating? Again? These are considered to be the world's oldest decoys, which were discovered in a cave in Nevada. They're thought to be about two thousand, two hundred years old. And here's your question.

What kind of duck is the decoy imitating? Some very quick answers from folks looking at the photo again, go to Instagram if you want to see this. How confident in you Chester? You know this? Yeah, Jimmy, you're a dear guy. How about a duck guy? Yeah? I can. I can hold my own. I went to high school in Horricon, which is at the southern end of the largest freshwater marsh and North America, so most expensive muskrats in the country. Hey have his bone yet? Not yet?

Hope not? I didn't recognize that it was probably the wolf one that I got wrong. Does everybody have an answer about what decoy this is? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying canvas back, Jim saying canvas back, canvas back, Brodie saying redhead, canvas back, Kelsey saying Seth saying canvas back. They got it. It is a canvas just didn't know if canvas backs went that far inland. Archaeolgo, well, it looks like a redhead. You

know what. I started writing redhead and changed my mind. Archaeologists discovered eleven canvas back decoys in the love Lock Cave, as well as imitating Canada geese, snow geese, whistling swan, and merganzas. The ancient humans that built them used tually rushes to create the decoy shape and then tied real duck feathers to the woven cords. Archaeologists believe these decoys were placed on water with a fine net above them, which entangled birds that tried to land in the spread.

That's great and they look beautiful like these things are the work of art goum and take that they filed. After hour, they found some other decoys in that cave as well, that had entire Canada goose heads stretched over the neck, so like they took and they into out to Canada, goose neck kept the skull in the in the feathers and then stretched on the decoys. So these things looked like as good as there are cave like, it's like the storage unity. They had everything in this cave.

The cave was a problem because they had some folks harvesting guana from there, and those people didn't wanna like come forward until they were satisfied with the mant iguana that they had taken out, so a lot of stuff was lost in that process. But yeah, they found tons of good things in there, including all these decoys. That's great. Question five we'll get a scoreboard update after this. The topic is gear What city is home to the bass Pro Shops Pyramid? Bass Pro Shops Pyramids? What city is

home to the bass pro Shops Pyramid? Did anybody know this one? I think so? Maybe not. I know the state the bass pro Shops Pyramid. The bass Pro Shops Pyramid is only one of them in the world. And what city that's where the headquarters is? Right, You're not going to say anymore looking for the city. Think to yourselves. M I think I've been there. Just think to yourself. That's not gonna give anything away. But why not just think to yourself so people can hear. People think better

if they talk out loud. That and it makes it maybe a little more interesting. He always want us to talk, Chester to shut up or Steve to close his ears again? What city is home to the Bass Pro Shops Pyramid? I think my grandma was from there. I think you can get a direct flight there here. It's not giving it away. Does everybody have an answer? Chester is trying to think of all the place he's been. He's like Beijing. No,

go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying St. Louis, Jim saying Springfield, Chester's saying Branson, Brody sang Nashville, Corey saying oh Maha, Kelsey saying St. Louis, and Seth saying St. Louis. Nobody got it. The correct answer is Memphis. Was that the bone for Jim? No, still not the gym bone. The Bass Pro Shop Pyramid was built in nineteen fifty four and was long used as an arena that held five events like Memphis Grizzlies games, Rolling Stones concerts, and

even Lennox Lewis versus Mike Tyson. The arena was abandoned in two thousand five, but in two thousand ten Bass Pro Shops signed a fifty five year lease with the City of Memphis to place their Mega store there. It's now home to a hotel, archery range, laser arcade, restaurant, aquarium, and bowling alley. So Chester there, Okay, So I hint that wouldn't even help anybody if you gets Chester didn't know? Did you notice that I was playing a perfect game

till then I did not? We will now hear from Korean to get a scoreboard update, which I think means Steve will have four. Yes, surprise everyone, Steve has four? Uh tied for second place? Is it's Jim and Chester with three each, Brody and Seth with two each, Corey with one, and Kelsey not on the board. Just how angry that when they do the score and you're gonna have to hear it two more times? Kelsey better get one. Question six the topic is habitat. This next great question

comes to us via Nathan Powers. If you have a question right from Mediator Trivia. You can send it to trivia at the mediator dot com. You will know for certain when it's Jim's bell. Food plot fertilizers always list N p K values. The N is nitrogen. What do the P and K stand for? Food plot fertilizers always list N p K values. The end is nitrogen. You need to tell me what the P stands for and

what the case stands for. Steve knew this one immediately. Oh, no portions, okay, portions looking for the P and the K. Jim you know this one, he does confidently, And it's not even the gym question yet. Why why should you okay, why should you know this? Cultural degree? That's right, which is surprising because I'm an artist. But yeah, N P K, I'll tell you that the end is nitrogen. You need to tell me what the P and the K stand for? Does everybody have an answer? I eventually would you'd have

the right answer or a answer? Does no seth? You know this one? Can just have one that we need both P N K. I know it. Spencer, Okay, why do you know this? One of generalism? I agree? And I used to be a food plot and not really so where were you planning food plots at in Pennsylvania? I like it? Does everybody have an answer? No? No, I should know this. I've planted, I got I got Brody tamp in his hand like a watch, saying we need to move on with it. Steve, Dude, I'm stuck.

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying phosphate, Jim saying phosphorus and potassium, potassium and kelsium, Corey's saying phosphate and potassium, Kelsey saying phosphorus and question mark Seth saying phosphorus and potassium. The P is phosphorus and the K is potassium. So the room did pretty But I had that. I thought phosphate replaced I thought potassium. Steve is always the guy who was first to shame Karin for like not writing down again, and then he didn't

even keep his guests that he hadn't listen. We're listening. Do you get a half point? No, that's wrong. That was your chance to pounce jack rabbit. Jim. These are some of the most important macro nutrients for plants. Simply put, the higher the number, the more concentrated the element is. So if your fertilizer has an NPK value of twenty five five. That means it as four times as much

nitrogen as it does phosphorus and potassium. And if it is a twenty, then it has twice as much concentration of all three nutrients than a bag of ten ten ten. Here's the deal, my soils class final right. I was like, okay, p is potassium because I was like, then what could the cave? Because no phosphate needs to be in there? And that's a pea. Almost they ran out of pas on the periodic chart. They had to come up with something else. Question seven, the topic is cooking. What federal

agency replace the food pyramid with a plate? In two thousand eleven? What federal agency replaced the food pyramid with a plate in two thousand eleven? Quick answer from Steve seems as though he knows this one. Brody, you know this well, I think I do. Okay, I'm out of this thing though, you think so. We'll get this warboard updating a few questions here, suffering no waste of my time again, what federal agency replaced the food pyramid with

a plate? And a lot of respect if you just walked out of the room, like, if you know you can't win and just leave, I'd respect that. Does everybody have an answer? No, I don't know. Man, federal agency chess, you're gonna come up with one. I don't even think this is a federal agency. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Steve saying the f d A, Jim saying the U. S d A. Chat without an answer, Brody saying f d A, Corey saying Food and Drug Administration, Kelsey saying saying f d A. The correct answer is the US Department of Bagriculture. It is not the FDA, it is the U. S d A. Knew it all the way. I knew that. God, I felt confident now because that's why it's a good question. You would think food. Yeah,

it's not that I was wrong. The U. S d A introduced the first food pyramid in and replaced it with my Pyramid in two thousand five, and replaced that with my Plate in two thousand and eleven. The biggest change from the pyramid to the two thousand eleven plate is that fat like nuts and oils are less discouraged. Another difference is that the grain servings were cut in half. Now explain me what category that was. That's cooking me is a big part of the pyramid and plate I

was just checking. I forgot that old school pyramid was hilarious. It was like like like, yeah, just bread, white bread, as much as you want. Question eight the topic is conservation. This next great question comes to you as via Anthony Frith. If you have a question you think is right for meat Eator Trivia, you can send it to trivia at the meat eator dot com. This is an audio question. I am going to play you one minute of one of the greatest conservation songs ever written. You need to

tell me who the artist is. And Dods came and took its soul and he in the name a flood control. They made the plans and they and the last time I walked in the swamp up a shop for the Chester could be the Domes of Holy Love. I'm falling, showing up, listening out. That's the greatest conservation. It's one of one of the greatest conservation songs ever written. Now Steve knew the lyrics, but do you know the artist? I think in those first name Okay, I'm looking for

name the artist. Now you're gonna need a last name in there. I'm gonna need a last name. Does anybody know this one? Maybe maybe from chester Man? That song? I was Friday and Saturday nights. I was washing dishes at Steiner's Point when that song came out. One thing I love about this is a lot of folks who were fans of his. They'd like to say something like I don't always listen to blank, but when I do, my neighbors do as well. Mean you really crank it loud?

Does everybody have an answer? Looking for the artist? Karen? You know this one? You were you were bopping your head over there. There was a sign that said uh at Steiner's Point. Um, there's a sign that said that there's time to lean, there's time to clean. And the dude that ran the griddle change that say if there's time to lean, there's time to make a burger. There you go. I worked at a cafe in high school

and and we had to say. The manager there would always say they knew the people who would get the dishwater ships, so whenever the dishes had to start happening, they would be in the bathroom, not clean dishes. That's the dishwater ships. Does everybody have an answer for who this artist is? Go ahead reveal your answers. We have Steve saying John Montgomery, Jim saying, Luke Combs, Chester's saying Joe Diffie, Brody's saying Black Sabbath, Corey's saying, James Taylor

Kelsey without an seth saying Joe Diffy. Nobody got it. The correct answer is John Anderson. I knew Anderson wrote that song in about his home state of Florida and how the military attempted to drain the Everglades during the Second Seminal War. His lyrics referenced Seminal Chief Osciola, whose ghost cries out over the destruction of the swamp for

financial gain. Anderson was named bass Pros Conservation Partner of the Year in Steen for his environmental work in South Florida, and earlier this year, our friend Luke Combs covered that song on a John Anderson tribute album. So I'm not going to give it to you, Jim. That's a good answer. I was sure Luke Colmes was wrong, and I was just release his own version that song, which is also great. Koran, give us a scoreboard update. We have two questions left.

Guess who's when it is? Jim in the lead with five, Steven second with four, Seth with three, Chester with three, Brody and Corey with two. Kelsey still not No, she had more. Think you got to cancel the bone. No, it's right here. How can you get the leader of bone? Question three? Year, Question nine, it's all the same. Does a lot of good habit that work? It really helped us out a lot. Question nine. The topic is Jim Heffelfinger or biology. What do you call the permanent outgrowth

on a dear skull? Where antlers grow from? Do you call the permanent outgrowth on a dear skull? We have Jim giggling to himself over here. It seems like Brody and Steve know it as well. I was like throwing the room abone. Yeah, does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and be all your answers. We have Steve saying pedicle, pedicle, chestres pedical. We'll give it to your pedicle, pedicle, pedicle.

Everybody got it. The funny thing about pedicle is everybody pronounced it like medical to rhyme like medical, because that's what Anthony Bouberick, a famous antler, researcher said that it rhymes with medical, but Anthony Bubinick knew about sick languages and English was like his fifth language, so we're all pronouncing it based on Anthony. I don't know. I don't know now. Dear pedicles have been called the fingerprint of the white tailed world because each one has a unique

structure specific to different books. Pedicle injuries just one way that a deer can grow a non typical rack, along with a leg injuries, testicle injuries, hormone imbalances, and genetics. Karen, I don't think we need another scoreboard updates since everybody got that one right except for Kelsey. Is Now we're still down to our last question. We still have Jim and Steve and it. We would need Jim to get it wrong and Steve to get it right to go

to over time. And the topic is fishing. I don't This is gonna be the nineteen eight hockey, the Olympics in hockey, that's what it's gonna be. I'm gonna pull out a fishing wind. Two anglers have won the bass Master Classic four times. Name one of those anglers. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna blank on this and I two anglers have won the bass Master Classic four times. Name one of those anglers. Jim had a pretty quick answer anyway,

so you might know this one. Chester is distraught right now, just one, just one of the two anglers that have won twice. Um, Jim, how confident are you? Oh? I'm pretty confident. You think you got it? Okay? Steve, how confident are you? Not at all? Oh? No, we might just have an outright victory. Remember his name and I cannot remember it. That's the key, remembering his name. Does everybody have an answer? This isn't I know, I don't have it right. I'm just gonna leave everybody else go

ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying I connelly, Jim saying by trying to think of jesters saying Bill Dance Brody with his board upside out, Kevin van Damn, Corey saying Bill Dance Kelsey without an answer, Seth saying damn. The two anglers are Rick Klon and Kevin van dam doesn't change anything. That doesn't change anything. Steve didn't get it. Jim didn't get it either, But Jim is our winner. How many? How many? How do you get right for three.

Jim got six first victory, six well done top round. It felt like a anti climactic in five a week win a week win. What does that mean you had a weak loss towards the end. They're all wrong. Yeah, that's because that's a great job at the beginning, I could coast. Wait is jim our second guest winner? Jimmy's our second guest winner. Now here is the anticlimactic part. What are you going to do with your five oundation? And why do you should people support? The Mule Deer

Meler Foundation is really habitat oriented. They do tons of good habits at work that's putting meals around the ground, not just you know, talking about meal deer conservation, but they're doing measurable stuff that's helping mealer on the ground. But I also cheer a Western Melder working group for the Western Association Fishing Wilde Agencies. They have always been there to have our back when we needed some funding to to do a publication layout or or funds of

printing of some publications, or give us meeting rooms. They've really been kind of our support for a long time. So they do a lot of good stuff. I will give you credit for this. When you kept saying where you're gonna give your money, we all laughed. We thought you were just being cocky, but you were. You knew what your money was gonna like a fortune teller right see into the future. Point out that I thought, yes, said, I said, you'd probably beat me. Okay, well done, Jim,

I would say that was a strong victory. Good job representing Trivia guests everywhere. Join us next time for more meat Eatior Trivia. Uh. The only game show where conservation always wins at the first four right that tough secondary. The only game show where I always do well on the first three questions and then tank