This Mead podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer new Art, and today we're joined by Janice Ptelis, Ryan Callahan, Brodie Henderson, Garrett Long, Krian Schneider, Dan Chumbler, and Maggie Smith. Now, Dan, this is your first time on the podcast, So tell folks what you do here at meat Eater. Thanks Spencer, I'm Dan Chumbler. I'm CEO. You got you got more
than that? Right? You got more than that? Right? Like people think Steve runs the ship here, but but this is the guy that does. No. I don't know about that. But I enjoy working with all of you, and uh, my job is really interesting because I got I get to do a lot of varied things and uh this being one of them. Sorry, I look forward to beating Garrett today. What's your favorite part of being CEO at meat Eater? Is it picking all the hunts that Steve
is gonna go on? Yeah? I The only reason I know where he is is because his assistant updates my calendar. Other than that, I have no idea where he is generally, Um, but no, my favorite, uh favorite aspect of working here is really with the people. Um. I love that we all share the same passions and we enjoy working with one another, and that's been a lot of fun. Well
said Yanni is very excited to have you here. He was talking before we started recording that, Uh, the vibes are good in the room because we got Dan in the room. Now. If you're not familiar, this is a ten round quiz show with questions from meat eaters four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking, and there's a prize. Meat Eater will donate five dollars to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. And each week here
on Meat Eater Trivia, we reveal a new stet. This week, we are formalizing the Shelby Index. The Shelby index is a way to measure how difficult reasy a game of trivia is. Shelby is my wife, and each night before I come record these shows, I asked her these questions to see how she does. Normally, she gets about half as many right as our winner. So if the Shelby index is a two, then that's a damn tough round.
In our winner is projected to get four, or if she gets a four, then it's a less challenging batch of questions and our winner should end up with an eight. The Shelby index for this episode is a four and a half, so today's winner should be in the ballpark of nine. It's a very conscientious word choice. There's a less challenging round, not easy. I thought about that one a lot now. The previous game of trivia, we talked about Alabama White sauce, to which Phil commented that he
thought it's the same thing as comeback sauce. Well, Ryan McCarty wrote in to say that Alabama White sauce and comeback sauce are very different things, though both are Mayo based. Comeback sauce differs by using chili paste, catchup dijon mustard in a slew of other spices. Comeback sauce was born in Mississippi, and the name originates from a type of salutation that's common in the state. Now, Phil, can you put on your best Southern accident help me out with
this next part? Y'all come back now you hear? I'm so sorry, dude, You make one more try at it? Here? Did do it? Do it? One more time? This that was perfect. What are you talking? This is how comeback sauce gets its name. Y'all come back now you're here. Very good, Phil, feel so talented. I don't think we ever talked about how you were in the Sound of Music in Bozeman. I was, yeah, we did. We did
not talk about it. I kind of kept it on the downlow until Spencer decided to shout her from the rooftop. So it's just very kind. I don't want me to do that. No, that was a totally fine, totally fine. It's part where you playing. I was Franz the Nazi sympathizing Butler. A lot of fun. No, and I mean it was I did I think Spencers bring up the fact that I had spoken in English accent throughout the Phil is so talented. I I told him he had
the best accent of the whole cast and it meant it. Uh. Very proud of you, Phil for how well you did. It was a fun play to watch. Yes, I did with that. We were on the Meat Eater Trivia play the drop. Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand wind everything. How's saying just tend to win everything? Suckers? Christian question one of The topic is conservation. What type of biome has experienced the most extinction in the last five hundred years? This is multiple choice and your options
are deserts, islands, tundra or forest. What type of biome has experienced the most extinction in the last five hundred years? Deserts, islands, tundra or forests? How do you feel about this? Johniet kind of a grin on your face, trying to hide it even well, No, because I feel like the the hints are just alive with you know, within this question. We're having a hard time, you know, not blurting something out right. What type of bio has experienced the most
extinction in the last five hundred years? Does everybody have an answer? Were the choices again deserts, islands, tundra or forests? Had a lot of writing over there. Dan had to change his answer, just danswing. You know, usually when people change their answer in this game, it bites him in the two bunch if if I'm wrong I'm feeling about
on this one, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying islands, Maggie saying islands, Brodie saying forests, Korean saying tundra, Cal saying islands, Janice saying tundra, and Dan saying tundra. The correct answer is islands. Here's where I start arguing. Okay, let's hear it. An island could have a desert biome, a forest biome, or a touch of pick island, because like, because an island and it encompasses all of them, a biome is of like specific environment.
I agree, I agree. We're just I'm using your strategy and you didn't strategy. You're gonna have to talk to the folks that have labeled these bioms of species. Extinctions have occurred on islands. According to the Island Conservation Group, the factor the leading factor is humans and the invasive species they bring island. Plants and animals are so vulnerable because they have small populations, restricted genetic diversity, and narrow
home ranges. I do think the crux of that question is is you know, and we kind of lean towards animal species but plant species. But it doesn't change the fact that you could have a desert island, forest island, or a tundra island with cow. You should have rowed down island said you have all of those on one island you could. I doubt it. Tundra, desert and pretty. That would be a great island question to Moving on the topic is fishing. This next great question comes to
is via Tucker Baker. If you have a question you think is right for meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at the meat eater dot com. Dale Hollow Lake, which is where the world record smallmouth was caught, is a reservoir that straddles to states. Name one of those states. Dale Hollow Lake, which is where the world wreck small mouth was caught, is a reservoir that straddles to states. I need you to name one of those states. Does anybody in this room know where this like is?
Garrett had a pretty confident answer over here, or do you just like right down the first state you thought of. I feel moderately confident. The rest of the room not is confident. Again, looking for what two states share Dale Hollow Lake, but we only need one of them, just one state. I know two regions of the country that are known for big small amount. You think you got it right, that's better than me because one region of the United States where they use the word hollow That's
what I'm based my answer. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying Minnesota, Maggie saying Missouri, Brody saying Kentucky, Krin saying Tennessee, Cal saying Tennessee, Joannice saying Minnesota, and Dan saying Missouri. The two states are Kentucky and Tennessee. Karin and Brody get it right, and Cal and Cal well done. See. I blamed Tony Peterson on that because he told me that
the best small mouth fishing is in Minnesota. He may not be wrong, like you know down in the Holler that the eleven pound fifteen ounce small he was caught there by David Hayes in nineteen fifty five. The record was controversial because Hayes wouldn't share which state and he caught the fishing. There were also claims that the fish was tampered with, and someone even came forward saying they shoved boat motor parts down the fish's throat before it
was weighed. This caused the world record to be disqualified in NINETI, but after a through investigation that included multiple polygraphs, it was reinstated in two thousand five, and because still wouldn't say what side of the lake he was on. Both Kentucky and Tennessee list his small mouth as their state records. There's a lot of gravy in that story. The most specific he would go, which I think was on his deathbed about a decade ago, he said it
was within five hundred feet of the state line. But there's a lot of lake there within five feet. Question three, we're onto cooking. Chipped meat, which is a gravy based military meal, also goes by this vulgar name. Chipped meat, which is a gravy based military meal, also goes by this vulgar name. Some confident answers he down to. You can't be given any hands right now. Everyone ever's done right.
But it says something about that small mouth. It wasn't like, oh, they're putting lead shot in the fish right there, putting boats. That's a big fish again. Chipped meat, which is a gravy based military meal, also goes by this vulgar name. We had cal Janis and Brodie, who know it. Rest of the room not. It's confident. This is a great duck hunters deal for eating geese. While you're shooting geese. There you go I made it. I just don't know
what it is everybody having. The kids were spouting off the other night at dinner about how we can say this because this is the name of a food dish. That's hilarious that that was a big time man writing down. Does everybody else have an answer? If you didn't figure out you're hint bron, I think go ahead and reveal
your answers. We have Garrett saying dogshit Maggy without an answer, Brody saying ship on a shingle, Karin without an answer, cal saying s O s or ship on a shingle, Yanna saying ship on a shingle, and Dance saying ship on a shingle. They got it right, it's shipped on a shingle. Now, Dan, did that hint? You honestly out there? Help you out a little bit. It just may have. This is a common meal for all branches of the armed forces because it's filling, quick, easy and cheap to make.
If you want to learn how to create it, then go to the meat eater dot com and check out Justin Townsend's recipe called venison ship on a shingle. It's not real vulgar, I mean it's it's Uh, is it as bad as it sounds? No, it's great. You know, I don't even know if they've ever had it. They just know it exists, yeah, somehow. But it's basically like biscuits and gravy. I'm sure they had a rendition of it. Yeah. May you know, like your old like old style like
open face turkey sandwich with gravy on it. Yes, this is just like a more reduced version of that. Think and Justin's recipe has an egg on top, which I had never seen before. Question for the topic is woodsmanship. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by James Standon for sending this great question. James is going to get a set of meat Eater coasters that were signed by everyone in the room. If you want a chance to win the listener Question of the Week,
then send your question too. Trivia at the meat eater dot com. Hey, real quick, I want to know when these folks get these coasters to the email you and say thanks, Spencer, these are great. Are they pretty fired up about the signed coasters? Yeah? I think people are genuinely excited. Uh, it is hard to keep up with the trivia inbox. We get about two emails a week, so we do get some feedback when folks get their prizes. But I'm just gonna be honest with you, it probably
gets lost. The important thing is they got their problems. Thank you? Gets lost? Yes. According to the c d C, these two spiders with a color in their name are the most venomous in America. What are they? You need both both spiders? According to the c d C, these two spiders with a color in their name are the most venomous in America. What are they talk about that? After this? What's up that little scar there? Oh you've encountered one of these before? Maybe I encounter I don't
want to say too much. Okay again, looking for hundred spider bites, boll of course the last eight days, looking for both spiders. What were you doing in the last eight chiggers? Spider right? Yeah, same family. I think they got chickers in New Mexico. Yeah really yeah, every time I've been down there getting nailed. You got it real bad last year. Your belly's all covered up right now, and just especially where like my hip belt, backpack straps, land like it's just it's a real war zone down
there you chingers. Strike me is something you get in like a very lush veget area, like get like Minnesota, Illinois. It's monsoon country, right, and they gets some of the best grassland range land in the world. And yeah, trigger country. Does everybody have two spiders written down? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying black widow and brown recluse. Maggie saying black widow and brown recluse, and she drew a great spider there with scary teeth. Brody
saying black widow and brown recluse. Karen black widow and scarlet nothing, yellow scarlet Caw saying black widow, brown recluse. The honest black widow, brown recluse. Dan got black widow, but not the brown recluse. The two answers are black widow and brown recluse. Black widows are found across the country, while brown recluse are most common in the Midwest and South. The CDC recommends you seek medical attention for either bite
as they are both highly toxic. Black widows kill about six people each year, but brown recluse deaths are almost unheard of. So you've you've encountered one of these Garrett. Uh No, I looked it up recently, um, because I thought maybe I didn't. But it sounds like there's a lot of people that think to get bit by a brown recluse, but it's actually a wolf spider. And uh I got this on my goat hunt. And for three days my hand was like twice as big as my
other hand. I got to the point I couldn't close my hand over the weekend. Is that your trigger finger? Yeah, but you didn't have I didn't have the ta and um. So you know, the first day when it was all swollen up, you're like, oh, whatever. The second day you're like, oh, this could be something. By the third day, mn you know on the internet, like anybody else would be, and they're like, IF's a brown recluse, you'd get like a hollow that it's like a blue hollow look to it,
because this everything's decaying underneath it. We had a trip in the little Wood drainage they're outside of catchup, and a buddy of mine got bit right on the butt by a brown recluse. Yeah, so it was bad for him, but it was also bad for everybody else because we had several days of like, hey, can you look at my butt? Did he sit on it? Yeah? By the time we got out of there, it was, um I mean it ate like a half a baseball size hole in his Yeah. How's he doing a tissue that that
the dog had to scrape out? It hadn't like I'll come out that way, but terrible. Yeah. Question five. The topic is wildlife. Three states have a bison on their state quarter name one of them. Three states have a bison on their state quarter name one of those states. Some quick answers in the room, Dan, did you know this one? I think I do. Garrett, I don't know. Man. You boys were fast to the draw on this question. Three states have a bison on their state quarter name
one of them. Man, we will get a scoreboard update from Phil after this. I was confident I might be wrong, though I'm sticking to my gonzo. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying Wyoming, Maggie sang South Dakota, Brody saying Oklahoma, Crant saying Iowa, Cow saying North Dakota, Jana saying Oklahoma, and Dance saying Wyoming. We have a correct answer in the room. The three states are Kansas, North Dakota, and Montana. Bison are the
most popular animal on state quarters. North Dakotas shows to bison grazing in the badlands, Montanas shows a bison skull and has the phrase big sky state, and Kansas is shows a bison standing near sunflowers. One of the funniest and most collectible error coins is actually the two thousand five edition of the Kansas Quarter. Instead of the quote in God we trust, some versions say in God we rust awesome. North Dakota State is bison right and that there Yes, But but you have to say with a
Z they go bison. Oh really, Yeah, you look like an outsider if you don't say bison instead of bison. That's a good tip. Phil hit us with a scoreboard update. We are halfway through the game of trivia. We are we have every everybody's on the board, which is always a fun thing. At halftime, we got Dan and Karen with one point apiece, Maggie, Joannics and Garrett I'll have two points, Brody with three, and pitching a perfect game is Ryan Callahan with five points. Because jigger bites aren't
slowing you down. Question six This is a video question. If you want to see what the room is seeing, then go to my Instagram and check out at Spencer New Hearth. I'll make it my most recent post. What fishing Brand ran this iconic commercial in the late two thousands to promote the durability of their rods, and just so we don't give away the answer, Phil has bleeped out the name of the company in the commercial. Brody knows it without seeing the video. I might change, but
I don't think I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Yeah, you're right, I think I know. I was so sick of him fishing I ran over his own truck. Don't get me wrong. I'm couldn't be happier that he found a hobby today. I'm a peaceful person, so I gave it to our dogs, Sugar Da. What is that thing made off? You know what happened? Absolutely nothing? Nothing? Yeah, I'm not changing my answer. Man, Ah, you want to see one more time you feel ok about But I'll tell you what. These They are durable
man like I that I fully support them. My kids cannot break them. A lot of hints out there. What what's this? Say? The question again? What a brand ran this iconic commercial in the late two thousands to promote the durability of their rods. Your kids. Your kids maybe more gentle than sam Baits. Is that right? Found a way to break one? Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying ugly stick, Karin,
or excuse me, Maggie saying bass Caster. He's saying ugly stick, Karn without an answer, cal Jannis and Dan all saying ugly stick. They got it right, The answer is ugly stick. Or i'd also accept their parent company Shakespeare. Oh see, that's what I was worried about. That. That's except ugly stick, because that's not the brand technically, right, that's like a line. Well, it's still a brand, right, But the parent company is Shakespeare.
Shakespeare created the world's first all graph fite rod in ninety six. It was an engineering feat that caused the brand to focus on the rods performance rather than cosmetics. The marketing team asked the engineers to make the Rods prettier, but when the engineers said that was a waste of their time, the marketing team had no choice but to lean into the rods bland appearance thus the ugly stick was born. Question seven, the topic is hunting. This next
great question comes you as via Andrew Burkey. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eat Trivia, you can send it to trivia at the meat eater dot com. What color in the rainbow is most invisible to white tails? What color in the rainbow is most invisible to white tails? How does anybody actually know what the answer is? Well, you can look at the rods and the cones in their eyes and then simulate things
based um that this is an agreed upon answer. I even checked with Jim Heffelfinger to make sure that this science is still relevant because biologists have known about it for a while. The most visible or most most invisible invisible? Putting it is most invisible? Answer to that question, Cal, But that's not the question. That's how I found that these papers would phrase it was most invisible, so I stuck with it. Yeah, it's a weird way to put it.
What color in the rainbow is most invisible to white tails? Garrett is changing his answer, Cal still has the perfect game going. How you feel about your answer here about as strong as I feel about white tails? Do you know all the colors in the rainbow. Oh yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. What kind of rainbow we're talking about here? Everybody have an answers, a double rain right, go ahead and don't have one. Okay way for answers. When you asked that question, Roy, there's a what if
you didn't know that? No? I know, I know, and yet you still haven't written an answer. No I haven't. I feel confident that with two small children can pick a color. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying orange, Maggie saying red, Brody saying red, Crin saying blue, cal saying red, Janna saying red, and Dance saying red. They got it. The correct answer is red.
This is applicable to white tails across the continent, whether you're hunting the suburbs of Washington, d c. Egg Country in Buffalo County, Wisconsin, or the big woods of Alabama waterways. These also all happened to be the places you can watch Mark Kenyan hunt white tails and Meat Eater's newest series called Deer Country. Right now, Spencer, are you gonna explain some science to us or not? Nope? No, you know it is is very busy, right, so I tried
to think of something opposite on the spectrum right. Question eight. The topic is conservation. Three thousand of what New York City icons were dumped in the Atlantic Ocean from two thousand one to two thousand ten in an effort to create artificial reefs? Three thousand of what New York City icons were dumped in the Atlantic Ocean from two thousand one to two thousand ten in an effort to create
artificial reefs. Maggie, you think you got this one? She does one more time, Spencer, I don't know, but three thousand of what New York City icons were dumped in the Atlantic Ocean from two thousand one to two thousand ten in an effort to create artificial reefs. This is question eight. We will get a scoreboard update from Phil after this. Man, this is just embarrassed. Ah, there's a lot of New York City icons. Maggie knows it. Karin
seems like she knows it. Maybe on a brody in Janice, I'm like the educated guess is all I got for you? A less aqua related tribute next time? My mom, well, you know, we did a whole gun episode for Garrett, he did, and I failed miserably. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying lobsters,
Maggie saying yellow taxi cabs, Brodie saying taxicabs. Karan, I cannot tell what you have written the Empire state building statues saying parking meters, Janice saying taxis Dan saying statue of liberty. Nobody got it. The correct answer is subway cars. This was referred to as the sub way reef program. The eighteen ton cars were stripped clean and then placed off the coast of New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, South Carolina in Georgia. Today they're a flourishing habitat for sea
bass ton a, mackerel, muscles, barnacles, coral and more. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. We do two questions left and only two players left in the game. Those two players are Barody with five points and Cow with a two point lead. He's got seven points. Cal is right in line with the Shelby index of nine. Here's still in there, buddy. Question ninety topic is cooking this process, which is essentially the opposite
of dry aging, uses sealed bags to tenderize meat. This process, which is essentially the opposite of dry aging, uses sealed bags to tenderize meat. Some quick answers. Cal is keeping his pace while Brody does some rewriting. No, I haven't done any writing. Oh, no writing yet. He's balancing his check book one more time. This process, which is essentially the opposite of dry aging, uses sealed bags to tender
eye meat. Bro do you have an answer? I do, but I think it's wrong because I can't think of the Does everybody else have an answer? I feel like my answer is too dumb. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We had a Barrett saying wet aging, Maggie sang brining, Brodie saying, Brian, and Karin saying suvied, Cal saying wet aging. Yanni and Dan also saying wet aging. They got it. It is wet aging. Wet Aging is a relatively new technic that's become popular vacuum steelers and refrigerators. It's best
used on lean cuts of meat, like venison. If you want to learn how to perfect this process, then go to the meat eator dot com and read Danielle Pruitt's article called how to wet age meat? Doesn't it basically involve just taking a backseal bag out of the freezer and letting it sitting here. But it's supposed to be quicker than dry aging. I'll tell you right now, I will never my My scientific run at dry aging for any sort of positive result is over. Like I just
I don't get anything out of it. So how soon are you butchering after you kill someunthing? I think a week to ten days. But are you still doing some wet aging or not. I'll like take a bunch of meat out at the beginning of the week, and so the stuff at the end of the week you could say has been wet aging. Yeah, I do wet aging by a product of not being super organized. It works. Well. We know our winner is Cal, but Phil give us
one more scoreboard update before we do the final question. Yeah, Cal, Now, how's a eight points? Bertie has five? Still, so um do you want more than that? That's okay? Question topic is wildlife. This next great question comes to you with via Arran's Fatana. If you have a question you think is right for meat eatter Trivia, send it to trivia at the meat eater dot com. Three states have a state bird that's native to another continent. What is that continent?
Three states have a state bird that's native to another continent? What is that continent? Quick answer from Dan? You know this one I thought I did the last time I had a quick answer. It's a final question one more time. Three states have a state bird that's not native to North America. What continent are they native to? It's kind of a blowout hoss answer three point when I'd identified as that. Yeah, yeah, but the Shelby index is uh, I'm supposed to. If I don't get this one, I'm
failing Shelby. Yeah. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Garrett saying Asia, Asia, Brody saying South America, Kran saying Asia, Cal saying South America, Janice saying Asia, and Dance saying Asia. Is that Greenland? The correct answer is Asia. Those three states and state birds are Delaware and the blue hen chicken Rhode Island and the Rhode Island red chicken in South Dakota. And the ringneck pheasants both chickens and ringneck pheasants are native
to East Asia. I was thinking, actual, yeah, Cal is our winner? Good questions that was in question from Aaron's cal is this your second victory? I am maybe, I don't know. Well done, Cal, it is yes. And also Janice pulled pulled a head into second place there at the talking about that doesn't get any Garrett. Let's see Dan and Garrett were tied with five points. You should ask him the tiebreaker questions. Then we're to save the tiebreaker.
Not easy to come up with you. Honestly, you don't get anything for second place, but Cal gets to choose where the five donation goes for getting eight correct and winning this episode of Media to Trivia. I'm gonna say Montana b h a who's currently intervening in a lawsuit between United Property Owners of Montana and Montana Fishing Game.
United Property Owners of Montana claims that it's unconstitutional for Montana Fishing Game to manage elk Aw the resource, and they're trying to get them to eradicate elk in any unit that's over objective right now? And what direction is that trending right now? Well, the judge just granted the intervention or intervening status here last week. Um, so it's weird.
We'll see, we'll see. It would be hard to imagine that the interest in the state would let it go that way, but we're definitely in a interesting time in regards to management. So by helping b h A, you're helping that battle with the five donation well donors. That's right, Dan, Thank you for joining us. Hope you had fun. Join us next time for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.