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Yes. My pleasure. I have, yeah, one one question and maybe one remark. When you said, the trauma, has no purpose, like, it doesn't happen, it doesn't I mean, you don't have to to find the reason, just what you do with the trauma. That's exactly right. Yes. Yeah. I find it very interesting. I I've been through some some difficult time in the past years. I had just, coming out, of cancer. Mhmm. And I see it as a initiation. You know? So I guess it's, of course, what the meaning
that I assigned to to what happened. That's right. But I wouldn't, I don't know. For me, it will say, like, it has it for me, it has to happen for some reason. Right? Like Yes. Like, obviously, we don't know exactly why, but, yeah, if if you say, the reason doesn't important, it's like, I feel a little bit, like, lost. I would like to hear what you what you say to them. Well, I I I think we get into first of all, I'm so happy that you're here, and it's incredible that you've been able to find
incredible meaning in what you've gone through. What I can tell you is a few things. When we start getting into why did this happen to me and what's the reason, I've haven't met people that have come up with very good answers to that question, usually. And, also, like, it presupposes that it should have happened. And what happens at that point is we have departed objective reality, and now we're in the realm of faith
and spirituality, which I have a deep spiritual practice. However, now I'm asking somebody to say, well, it's God or it's the universe or it's something like that, and or or maybe I chose this before I got here. Right? And it's like, at that point, we're beyond what is, like, evidence based. Like, I can't we can't verify any of that. Right? That's why it's we get in the realm of we get we get in the realm of faith and belief. And I am not
here to mess with anybody's belief. Mhmm. And even if you have faith, which I do, what we just shared, I think, is the best way forward. Yep. Right? Even if you know why. Right? And the the problem is is that I think it puts us in a position of why did this happen to me? What are we gonna do with that answer, really? I mean Mhmm. If you really think about it, most people are gonna come up with a really bad answer to that question. Right? So when we
ask about purpose from so, for example, with cancer. Right? Mhmm. So that's like that's a that's a word that's surrounded by fear. Yeah. There's so much fear around that word. Right? So you think about it. Right? Okay. Well, what's the purpose of my cancer? Well, I'm not gonna sit here and say, well, that must have been what's supposed to happen to you, or you deserved it, or no. Right? But what purpose can I
get from cancer? Well, probably a lot of things. Yeah. What's interesting about cancer in the research is that you think about, like, you know, people who are superstitious. Right? They're gonna say, oh, I gave myself my cancer with my negative thoughts or whatever. No. Most cancer comes from environmental toxins. Right? So when you I I would put cancer in the category of a chronic disease also. It's not
like an acute disease. It's something that it progresses over time. What's interesting about cancer is it will expose areas of, say, your immune system that have lesser capacity. Yeah. And so what I've noticed with people who have any chronic illness, including cancer, is that when we get into where is the cancer, how is it impacting you, and then also what life changes are needed here, It's interesting how sometimes the changes that are needed to be made are probably changes
that probably should have been made anyway. Yeah. Right? And so and so what's happening is your body has interacted with an environment that maybe has a carcinogen in it or something like that, and it's and that that that carcinogenic environment is now showing you, hey. This is where you're off in your system. And you have an opportunity to take a medical approach, which we believe in. But you also wanna find a a a larger question, which is what what purpose can
I create from this experience? Yeah. And you said what? It's initiation. Right? So it's initiation into what? It's initiation into, a higher state of consciousness, I would say, eventually. So think about that for a second. If you tell yourself, okay. So the purpose of this cancer that that I'm gonna create, the purpose from this cancer I'm gonna find, I'm deciding that this is going to guide me to higher levels of consciousness. Okay? That's a decision that you get to make.
Yeah. What type of solutions are you gonna find? What type of things are you gonna see? What type of standards will you have for yourself? Yeah. Everything oriented on what I decided. That's right. And let's say you come across a doctor who maybe you experienced having a lower level of consciousness that's fear based, you're probably gonna say, no. Thank you. Yeah. Find somebody who like, for example, whenever I do patient advocacy work, I believe there's no such thing
as false hope. Hope is binary. You have hope or you don't have hope. False hope is no hope. There is no there's no such thing as false hope. Right? You either have it or you don't. Right? And so I surround myself with people who have faith and believe that something is possible. Right? Healing is possible. Remission is possible. That type of stuff. Because, you know, the way in which we go about treating a chronic condition has a
major impact on what happens with it. There's other things outside of our control, obviously, sometimes, but it's so important to understand that, like, hey. I'm getting purpose. I'm creating I, you, are creating purpose from this experience. Now you are someone who can create and look for certain things that you couldn't do otherwise. Now you can start to go, my goal here is higher consciousness. Well, what does that manifest as? What would how would
you specifically know that you were doing high levels of consciousness? What would be the outcome for you? Well, I had to I had to deep really, dig really deep into, some unresolved emotional, issues that I had. And that's when I when when I've been through these processes, it's just the amount of of, energy that got released, like, really made me to, basically change my identity by doing so. So Which is so powerful if you think about it. Right? It's so powerful. Okay? Completely.
So I mean I mean, talk about, I mean, agency and every I mean, you're literally the embodiment of everything that we talked about here. Right? So, like, what's so powerful about that too is is you're like, okay. I'm gonna do the work on this. And because my goal now is I wanna heal, I'm in a healing season. Mhmm. I'm gonna do this work. Now some people, if they're in a chronic condition like
you're in, let's say they start doing travel work. Well, if their context isn't, I'm gonna raise my consciousness, you could approach healing work from a place where, oh my god. It's my fault. Look what I did to myself. You can internalize the blame or the shame, which only has a negative impact on immune and all other type of stuff. Right? But you said, no. No. No. No. I'm gonna unpack this to reach high levels of consciousness to heal. Now the next level for you is probably gonna be what?
The next one after it is strengthening? Or Right. And is it gonna be in the healing, or are you gonna go to a different area of life now that you've been on this journey for a while? Yeah. So I'm actually I'm I'm I'm two years after the the the treatment, and I'm Amazing. Congratulations. So for me, obviously, it's now, business. Yes. So to unpack what I've been through, I'm I'm also a coach to unpack it and then to deliver it to other people
so they can also That's right. That's right. So check this out. So now we're in business. What if you're so you have a business call. I'm gonna guess. Let's let's let's make it a revenue goal. So what's your revenue goal? Well, yeah, I I wrote in the in the chat, it's, basically enough to buy my own house, so it would be about Okay. Yeah, a few hundred thousand Okay. Great. Great. So think about that for a second. Now if we just say, I wanna buy a
house, that's cool. I don't really feel too much in my system when I think about that other than, like, it's it's a good idea. I feel like, yeah. Okay. But what motivation can you attach to that goal that's gonna make you go, I have to do this? Yeah. So the motivation I will I answered that. That was, I think, the numb the the the last two ones. So it's, it was four and five, I think, was the So they're break generational patterns? Yep. Right? And what was the fourth one? Hold on. Testing
my my remembrance. To other people, I think. Was it Oh, yeah. A mission. So there's a mission. Right? So if you right. So if you think about this, right, here's a couple additional context. Right? Okay. So I'm starting a business. One, I wanna have this raise my consciousness also. Yeah. Two, I want to have this business honor the healing that I've done Mhmm. So that other people don't have to go through the same thing. Now
whether you help people with cancer or not is not the issue. It's more it's more like a the higher calling. Yeah. It's initiation. So That's right. And initiation can happen in every That's right. Type of yeah. And then this house that I'm gonna get represents breaking cycles. How does that feel in your system compared to previously? Yeah. It's makes definitely, it's it's it's landing. I don't know with breaking cycles, actually, I think the house won't necessarily represent that.
Maybe maybe, yes, you know, because, yeah, my family is, like, been they never had a business. You know? They're always, well, working for someone. Yes. So maybe earning enough money from all these businesses is is breaking the cycle. Yeah. Exactly. So so you're not just getting a house. Yeah. You're honoring your healing path. You're raising consciousness. You're initiating. You're breaking family cycles, and that's what your coaching business represents.
To me, I don't know about you, I feel a completely different level of energy in my body when I think of it versus just like, let me get a house. I mean Yeah. Definitely. Right? It's yeah. It's it's it's all it's all welded in. That's exactly right. So we wanna keep that front and center. Does that make sense? Yeah. So beautiful. I love that. Thanks for being here today. An incredible story by Thank you so