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USFL Week 8: What Did We Learn?

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We went LIVE to react to USFL week 8 on Monday, June 5 at 9am PST.

Join me and Pat Rifino as we take your comments and calls LIVE and react to the 8th week of USFL 2023 games, USFL week 8 as a whole, as well as the things the USFL is doing well, and things the USFL can work on in the future.

Week 8 USFL games include the USFL Houston Gamblers at the USFL Pittsburgh Maulers, the USFL Philadelphia Stars at the USFL Birmingham Stallions, the USFL Memphis Showboats at the USFL New Jersey Generals, and the USFL Michigan Panthers at the USFL New Orleans Breakers.

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Hey, everybody, welcome to the Mark ass here. Happy Monday morning, read here exciting coming off of USFL Week eight. I have Pat standing by here. I'm going to take thirty seconds of your time before we get into this. Let me get the banner going here too. Happy CFL kickoff week. We have our normal Friday episode planned. Andy Murray is going to be joining me live. We'll figure out the time. I'll post that we'll be

going live talking to XFL offseason in kind of all of that talk. But if you are a CFL fan, we have our CFL Kickoff pregame show coming up at four pm Pacific on Thursday. Still waiting to confirm all of the guests, but if I if I get yeses from everyone that's tentative right now, this could be an all time great CFL show coming up this week. So I hope you tune in. I'll be posting and promoting a lot on

Twitter here. But CFL Kickoff pregame show four pm Pacific on Thursday before the BC Lions at Calgary Stampeders game and then our normal Friday live show here. I have Pat standing by. Normally I don't wear like a tank top on the show, but Pat was sending videos. I saw Pat was in like a dress shirt, so I had to dress it down. Pat. How are you doing? I'm doing well man, how are you? I'm good

now. So I'm blocked by RJ Young on Twitter now. But if RJ Young, like his podcast is like the number one podcast or the number one called whatever, r We're literally the number one USFL podcasts. I just want you to understand that record breaking number is this last week. I know it's a low bar. I did it you and the hard work you do watching, you know, rewatching and kind of doing all this stuff. I do what I can tune in. I had weddings this weekend and our wedding show.

But we literally the number one us of all podcast. So hater has come out. But like r J Young, get out of here with all of his stuff. I'm just telling you numbers don't like Yeah, I mean, I mean, we put in put in the work, despite what people

on Twitter. I think. You know, like I I thoroughly enjoy watching football, as crazy as that sounds, I thoroughly enjoy watching both of these leagues, and I think including the CFL, even though my champion Michael Lass just got cut from the Alouettes. But um, you know, on a serious note, like I'm you know, I have no problem watching these leagues and even though sometimes the league does stuff I don't agree with, in the end, it's not about the shield for either one of these leagues. Like

I don't care about Fox. I don't care about Jerry Cardondale. I don't care about you know, Danny Garcier or Dwayne Johnson. I care about you know, Chris Blewett even though he just blow the game this week. And I care about you know, I guess I care about Jack cone Horn and Ben Danucci. But you know guys like that. You know, I care about those players, and I care about you know, them making money and you know, doing what they can to live their dream. Yeah, Pat,

Paton a ton of work for this. I appreciate it. Coming off of it's just us and all a hard time a year for me to get this. I do what I can. Like I said, we had weddings. I'm trying to watch before we were going to the game. We're driving. I got the game on my phone driving to go. Do you know, photos and stuff like that. But I appreciate it. Exciting a week here a week eight kind of really kind of some of the best football we've seen. And I know Bratt was excited over at the USFL and XFL fan

group on Facebook. You know, his stallion's looking good. We'll get into all of that, But how are you feeling here? And now we're eight weeks in? Eight weeks past. We haven't broken you. I think we've almost broken you. But how have you made a USFL weekend? I mean, I'm doing pretty okay. I'm all disappointed with the North Division overall. I think everyone is. You know, I think I said I guarantee you three wins from from the South or yeah, three wins from the South.

Um, I kind of thought. I don't remember if I said the Stars or the Panthers were gonna sneak one out, but obviously that didn't really work out. Um, those you know, all games were I think decided within within one score. I praised the kicking this week. Ironically, there are two big missfield goals from Skiba had a missfield goal and Chris Blewett. Obviously, I think there was like a minute in forty left in the game. The Muellers, the Muellers, Um, the Muellers the Mueller's Gamblers game.

Um, you know, so quarterback play was pretty decent this week. I felt like, you know, McLeod, McLeod. But overall it was pretty good performance. Uh, Josh Love played pretty okay, just you know, same things. Slow start with that team once again. The Michigan team, Um, you know, Troy Williams a little bit more mobile his legs. Kenji Bahar went back to that real safe, you know, safe type of passing and whatnot, whatnot where you know, we kind of saw what Jordan

Tayamu did in the XFL very similar. I think Tayoma was obviously more athletic than than bihar Um. That run game really really hurting them. But you know, we saw some some stars come, you know, the defensive side of the ball now that these offenses and defenses are actually in their stride. Now, in my opinion, I'm actually seeing good defensive players, not just bad offense taking care of taking advantage of. Are bad offenses being taken the

advantage of by decent defensive players? Do we when do we get to cancel the USFL like people did the XFL for having the losing teams here going into the playoffs, because We're getting pretty close here in the North. I've got the Panthers circled here at three and five, but very excited. Yea, I would take that upisode of this play. I don't. I would just like to see because there was obviously we had a lot of everything with the

Renegades and all of that. Do you are you concerned with the losing team of the North potentially making it into but like, you know, I think it's gonna be the Panthers because I think the white flag, Mike Mitchell, I think Verbatim said that word, like the generals need to wave that white flag. You know, the Muellers have had some hard luck this year as well. You know, they could easily be three and four or excuse me, three and five or two and six obviously, and they could have shook

up the South a little bit. But you know it's gonna suck because every team in the South is a decent team, and you know it's only a two a one game playoff, so you know, hey, to sound tacky, but any given Sunday, so we could we could see, you know, two good football teams not make it, as we saw in the XFL

with the BattleHawks, not making it. But at the same time, I think it kind of validated it when the Renegade, you know, the Renegades won, but then you got some Saint Louis Yahoo's who are like, oh man, that was our spot we could have been in and all that stuff. So I mean, very curious to see we did that media week this week. Surprisingly, my questions were not answered. I forget what my second one was, but my first one was, and I think we all talked

about on the group chat. The group chat was are they going to expand rosters for for week, you know, playoffs or at least championship week, especially when you're coming down And granted, the championship is going to be in Ohio, so it should be a little bit cooler. But when I did my Panthers preview the day before, they had what one hundred and forty five

degree heat index on the field. So it's like this, this adds like these guys are gonna be a little bit more fatigued than they were they would be in April, obviously, and regardless of the conditioning and Whatnotum, it's still going to be a little bit of a battle. So I'm very I would like to see the rosters expand a little bit for that. Um, I think everyone would. I think, you know, and it doesn't seem like a you know, it'll cost people on that active roster and whatnot,

but it's not going to cost but like win bonuses. If I'm understanding the large agreement. It's funny. Yeah, we had are big at us of a media week. I guess preview in the playoffs you have to and I didn't have a lot to ask Daryl Johnston and Mike Prayer. Mike Prayer was doing some funny fart jokes and stuff before we got on the you know, before like the official call. But I know you have questions. It is remarkable for Fox to hold the press conference and then just add to entertain questions

from RJ Young and Eric Williams, two Fox employees. I'm like, can RJ pick up the phone and called Daryl, Like if if RJ really has a pressing question like I got Darrel, I gotta know, I gotta know. I just wasn't amazing to me the other question I was gonna ask you. We will get into the breakdown here the things that are sent to me and I obviously get up later being on the Pacific coast, and especially coming

off of my wedding weekend, I get up a little bit later. But the things send in that group chat astound me that we're still yelling at people for talking about fans in the stands and then we're talking expansion versus home markets here going in the next year. Who's that, one of the network guys, what would you rather see USFL expansion in year three year? Actually playing

on all eight markets? I mean playing in eight markets with the belle with thee Yeah, I mean so like So I talked with Shady on his show a little bit about it. So I think something the USFL has in their back pocket that the XFL doesn't is Canton. And the reason why is I think Canton will support a Canton football team, and then you're gonna get residuals from just people visiting the Hall of Fame, right, So arbitrary numbers.

If you're gonna have if ten is the max and one is the MIMU, you're gonna have six six people there, right like the capacities at ten, You're gonna have six people there every weekend. Just if you had the Canton football team. You know, Canton Legends is the name I like. I think you would get two more people. And I'm simplifying this because it's the math is hard, but um, you know, simplifying this, I think you would get two more people for you know, just the casuals coming in

and now you're at that seven eight, you know threshold. It looks pretty good, you know, when you have that Canton Legends. So while a lot of people are critical of the Canton Hub, I think it's a good transitionary hub and you might be able to pick up a couple more casuals for obvious reasons. So go ahead and put a team in New Jersey or Pittsburgh. Maybe take the Philadelphia team, bring them down there, you know,

let Michigan be its own thing. And then you know, put the other two franchises, whether it be Houston, which I think they need to go to Houston, like figure that out real quick or whatever where the Spring League went. Yeah, and you know, put New Orleans in Canton because now you've exhausted the Birmingham people for the last two years, which these people I will never talk bad about the attendance for the Stallions because those people have been

asked to do so much, and they've done a pretty good job. And it's also very hot, so you can do that. And if New Jersey just flops, okay, we're done with the Generals, like we're done, or phillyges flops, We're done with the Generals. Get New Orleans in their hub in excason, we get New Orleans in a New Orleans stadium, and

then now you can bring this Canton Legends thing up. So I think that Canton Legends can kind of or Canton, Ohio could be kind of used as like a throwaway card until you find eight markets that will support these teams constantly. Well, I yeah, no, I say it was I can't remember that Ed. I think it was Ed that was on. He was like with the Canton Observer or whatever, and he would when they did the whole

hub announcement, I said, you know, I would. I would do the hub in Canton, the main hub, like I would do, and I would just say, hey, with your Hall of Fame ticket, you're get come, hey, we got a game here. You know this is included in You're We went when we did our Almo tour here before the XML kickoff, like you go see the Almo and they was like, oh, hey, we got you want to go see the other room with some of

the more nick knacky stuff like here that's included in your ticket. Like I would just roll that in and say, hey, if you're coming in on a Saturday, we got a game coming up at two o'clock, Like, go check it out next door. I just I would include that in and just kind of get that roll in. I think it's easy. Yeah, and you know, and exposes people from like, you know, some dude from Iowa who's got no interest in the league, and he's like, yoh,

I really like this New Orleans thing because it's a nice color. You know. Like now he's a New Orleans fan, you know. And if he's not going to the games, he's watching and then he goes to the bar and he turns it out at the bar. You know what I mean. You expand your demographic, uh to they's flyover states. In my opinion with with Canton, so would there be people on Twitter they yell at him that he's dumb When this person that doesn't know anything asks about or would they

be would they be accepted to explain? They'd probably harass him. But like at this point, I have recorded enough like ridiculous European songs that I'm just gonna comment back at people. Okay, okay, all right, so let's got here. I'm sure we'll get there. This some Marciana gets here. But we got this. We had this, Yeah, this, I caught some of this game a little a little scary. Here. Week eight,

we had the you know, Gamblers, Anthony's Gamblers. I can always tell by our group chat how riveted people are in these games, and when when I tune in and I'm like, I wonder, what's going on. I look at the group chat. Nothing's going on with this. Anthony was like, I'm I'm up, I'm up. What did you make of this?

Gamblers at twenty to nineteen fifth millers? I mean, what we saw was, like I talked about earlier, was the safe Kenji Bahar game, you know, win eleventh of twenty one hundred and fifty passing Oh yeah, you got on the screen one hundred and fifty passing yards, um about, you know. And it was the Mark Thompson Show. So it's funny we've been

talking about Mark Thompson a little bit. Is I do believe Alex Magoo has so defied himself as the MVP, especially with two weeks, and in my opinion, if they win this week, I wouldn't be surprised to see a very light workload for him. Um. I do want to go into Alex

magoo, you know, talk when we get to that game. But now, the competition in my eyes is like the most eyes on the prize competition is who's going to be the second all USFL running back in my opinion, because Thompson's at like thirteen touchdowns now and he could easily be, you know, an MVP of Alex mcgo if maybe Jamar Smith is there and he's playing a little bit more conservative, you know, so, um, it's the Mark Thompson show in my opinion. The defense is pretty pretty pretty fun to

watch as well. Um, you know Zuber was a little bit more involved in the game because I think not Justin Hall, but Anthony Ratliffe Williams went pretty blanketed and Whatnotum, the run game, the run games continue in the succeed you know through through that they don't have any off the top receivers that Bahar has really like connected with. I know Hall's had some nice, nice

like long catches and whatnot. But it's been mostly that like quick screen, quick checks, all that stuff, and you know, that's this game, and it's kind of what they had with, like I said earlier, what Tayammu was doing in the early parts of the season before. But those receivers that Taomo had versus are completely different. Um. As far as to kick over to the Mallers, this running, this rushing attack is pretty limited. Anytime I see Madre London making a play, he's making a guy miss at

the line of scrimmage. Garrett Groshek. It seems like he's, you know, got a guy in his face every time. We've been very critical about the offensive line for the Mallers this whole year. UM. Troy Williams obviously getting back to his leg work a little bit. I said, for the Mullers to be successful, I think they needed like thirty yards from Groschek and like thirty five to forty five from from a Madre London and kind of Doree a diet version of a three headed attack. They what they rush for a

hundred and twenty. I mean, sometimes the Baulders doesn't go your way, and that's what happened. You know, they were in Williams, did what they needed to do, push the field down and blew it, missed the field goal. So I mean the team is much better to wash this year. So if you're like you know, you can poo poo crowds and all that stuff, but as far as the quality of like a team, I like watching the Mullers compared to the last year. Did you read you know

the missfield goal kick and all of that? Are you do you view? That? Was that exciting television? There was that like Black Custer, like you wished special teens would be better. I mean I think I think the kicking and I have the kicking stats pulled up for this year, and I

mean, these guys are doing a lot better. Um, you know, you got Alex Kestman's nineteen of twenty one aguilar Is nineteen of twenty two, sixteen of seventeen for Chris Coughlin. Coughlin Chris blew at fifteen of nineteen with twenty seven extra points like twenty seven to twenty seven Aubury's eleven of twelve. Excuse me, Brandon Aubury's twenty seven of twenty seven Cole Murphy eleven to fourteen with some big misses, like like big misses, as in like over fifty

yard misses. So we can, you know, play that game a little bit. Schebo is perfect. He's nine to ten now, and you know, I think overall it's been a lot better than last year. Um, I can pull up the twenty twenty two stats. I'm doing this whole football

dB and sometimes they're oh jacked up. But last year twenty two field goals was the was the high watermark, and Brandon Aubrey was eighteen of twenty two and then Nick Vogel was eighteen of twenty three, with fourteen of twenty two from Ramza mod So the kicking has improved tremendously and there's been less kickers as well. So that means these guys are doing a little bit better of kind of staying even keeled in my opinion. Well, let's good. I've got

to kind of balance to that too. Mean, we saw last year the Mangals here back with the maulers and being able to not kind of have to do double dud and figure all this stuff out. I think last year was a little a little messy in that it's good anything else from this, I mean Mauler is kind of continuing their downward slow You have two and six now kind of out of it. Gamblers very much still alive here. It looks like yeah, and you know, big Big Guy wanted to shout out on

the Maulers. Just Bailey Gaither and Isaiah Henny Henny henything as possible, you know, dynamic guy. This week, his punt returns were a little bit limited, but overall, you know, they both they both eclipse fifty all purpose yards. I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. These

two receivers are doing a pretty good job. I think either gets you know, another practice squad cameo once the injuries come in because he's been close, you know, he's and they're using him more on like jet sweeps than whatnot. So he's showing a little bit more versatility that he can air quote run the ball from a rushing standpoint. But he had another seventy yards. Hen He's at shifty, little slot back slot back. He's a little small.

I think we've talked about that multiple times, but in the end, he's still being pretty effective. And I mean we've seen these small guys, these small, shifty dudes in the NFL. So I think he's putting a lot of people like on not this because last year was kind of buried under Jalen McCleskey and Trey Walker and Bailey Gaither as their like fourth wide receiver options. So I mean, he's definitely going to be turning some heads, especially in

the punt return game. And we talk about it all the time. Is I don't care how many rushing yards you have. I care about your kick coverage, and I care about what you do on special teams and heny offers. At hearing this sound, I mean really stacked here, you know, gamblers at the bottom. It's still obviously a great record. It is weird how parallel this is to the XFL, where it's like either the reverse sliding doors your all world, but with this really really competitive South where it looks

like it's so very much anyone's game. I mean, I know the sounds and we'll talk about that, but just South overall, what do you make of the playoff picture? I mean, I hate I think we opened it opened it a little bit. Um. I hate to see just any of

these teams not make it. You know, I would love to, you know, in an optimal world, have one more week of like a player, like if if things aren't working out, maybe if the Breakers in Showboats or the Gamblers and Showboats or the same record they play, they play and get in you know, a bubble game and whatnot. But the back end of the schedule is all division games. So these teams are to cannibal cannibalize

each other a little bit. And while we'll all be like, oh, they're more talented and whatnot, they will have an opportunity to take on their divisions, their division opponents. And just to bring up the schedule um for week nine because I know we talked about it last week, but I mean the Breakers and Showboats play on Saturday. That's that's a that's I want to say, that's a win in you're ind but that's gonna you know, one of these teams will have six wins, the other will have still five.

And then the Gamblers and Stallions, you know, that could deter some things as well. And then Stallion show Boats Week ten, Breakers Gamblers, Um Breakers Gamblers on that Sunday game for week ten, So that could kind of shift some things up. And I think the USFL did a good job as

like making those games matter, and I think and I don't think. I know that's gonna avoid most likely a lot of these playoff tie breakers and whatnot, because that last game, if you made that last game see Draft Agins versus BattleHawks, then there's then it's kind of done, you know, because then whichever team wins, it kind of shuts it down. In my opinion, you said that good job by the USML this one that confirmed you didn't say that. Yeah, I know, put that on a good job by

the USFL, bad job by our pre existing good bad job. I was r J Young bad. I gotta, I gotta know bad. I gotta. I always say that. Next week, uh, week nine looks really good for the USFL in terms of scheduling here with you know, we got Fox NBC, you know, going back four network games. I think that's going to be good. The week ten we've got the USA, USA, USA and FS one here. But next week, week nine ratings should be good. Obviously we'll get we'll get your week eight ratings coming in tomorrow,

gars to see how that works out. I know they're time to build back up the other week before with Memorial Day and all of that. I get the over here. Let me get back to my schedule over here, but coming up at Birmingham Stars, uh, you know or Stallion Stars whatever game of the weekend. And I've heard from a lot of people as well as that seeing the parts I did, what did you make of that? And

I'll get the box were pulled up. I mean, it's the Mago Show right like at this point, like like every week we talk about how good this guy is. We talk about how much fun he is, We talk about, you know, his improv and whatnot. Um, I mean, he's the de facto MVP right now. I still an interesting tweet from Jamar Smith, and I talked with Luke Miller in the d MS about it. Um and I could try to pull it up, but Jamar Smith said something

along the lines is looking for my next opportunity or something. It was like a piece out right, He's yeah, yeah, and let me let me pull it up. Something you think that he yeah. The reading of it was he thinks this is Magou ship now and he's kind of like, let me move on here. So Jim Jamar Smiths wrote next chapter away, it's Red Johnson salute and a piece outside. So I talked with Luke Miller about this, and I was like, you know, I think mcgoo's gonna get

a shot at the NFL. Now, if I'm Skip Holts, what do I do? So if Magoo gets a shot at the NFL, I wouldn't be surprised if because I think Denucci floats on the practice squad. I think AJ McCarron, someone gets hurt and then he finds a good opportunity for him to go to another another team in which he can either a push that low

level backup to where maybe he's the QB two QB three. But when when you know they're maybe that team's five and three, and then they're five and five and they're like, yo, the second string guy we have isn't working out. AJ take the start. That's a very real thing we've seen in the NFL, right, Like AJ's only going to go to the NFL if

the opportunity suits him, Like he's he's good. You know. So you have a guy like Magoo, I think he gets an NFL opportunity, whether he sticks in camp or not, then he's in that limbo of what do I do. I think Skip Holtz needs to have a sidebar conversation with Smith and be like, hey man, let's see what happens with Alex. But would it not be the craziest thing if the XFLI gave him ane hundred K

plus salary? Hey man, come here. I think everyone agrees the schedule is a lot better as far as that recovery period for XFL guys to the NFL, and that when the XFL season is over the draft, you know, they have those final roster spots to where a USFL guy is waiting on injuries and just like a team to fall in love with them, like, hey, we drafted this guy on Kansas State, but he's not doing well

in OTAs. Let's bring a USFL guy in and play that game. So I would try to tell a Jamar like, hey man, chill for a bit. I understand you're frustrated. I understand all this stuff, but let's not make any decisions about going to play for another team because in the end, you still need a little bit more tape and I know, maybe he can get a CFL opportunity and whatnot. You know, there's there's plenty of things that can happen with with Smith. I think he's capable. I just

think he needs it more film. I really expected him to take that next step. Obviously, injuries happened, but with McGoo, if I was the XFL and I lost Kamo, I lost the Nucci, I lost you know a J. I offered this guy one hundred k to come in. You know, I don't think Brent Humley comes back next year, so there's an opportunity. Um Jalen McClendon probably be the next tier of guys coming up. Quinnon Dormand's another guy that's probably going to be that next higher echelon of quarterback

that we see in in the XFL. Why not? Why not? There's some money at Alex McGoo you mentioned. I think it was over the weekend that you think the high level I can't even remember, like the high level quarterback play in the USFL was was better than the XFL. But overall the XFL quarterback Wait, what do you make of that? Because yeah, Magoo's played really good, but like across the board that would and say the USFL quarterbacks have been outstanding this or what do you how do you look at that?

I think the tier is a little I think the usl FELL quarterbacks overall are better as in there closer because every week when I did my quarterback stuff, it just seemed like a j Jordan Ben aj Jordan Ben aj Jordan Ben. And while that makes my life easier than like analysis and I can turn my brain off with some of the stuff, I feel that while McGoo is obviously in a class of his own, those two through fours are very close.

And like when you get like Josh Love is picking up, like he's being a lot more consistent and Cole Kelly's doing a lot of things that you don't show up in the stat line. It wasn't until McClendon came around that we had a true number four. And then Louise wasn't that good for the

majority of the year. So until we saw Louise in the back end and his best games were in the playoffs, you know, it just kind of fell like a lot of movement and that number four, and like you know, people will say Jack Cone had over three hundred yards you know, passing a couple of games, and it's like, yeah, but all he did

was dump off the tight ends. Like it wasn't too crazy, and like Nick Holley took a couple short passes and whatnot, and Brandon was up there, but then once Brandon after Week five got hurt, he wasn't anything to really write home about with John Jry Kirkland getting hurt. So I feel like the quarterback play is closer and more competitive than it is than it is in the USFL than the XFL. And they've had some bad weeks. They've had some, you know, but I mean they have bad weeks in the NFL

as well. So I can't I can't knock either one of these leagues. Well, you know, I mean, especially now with the the NFL rules and stuff and more quarterback it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be interesting here with them, you know, dressing and kind of carrying more guys on that. Getting back to the game here, you know, I see both these teams marched in the field like right away, You're like, I'm like, okay, stars come in, okay, stallions come right back kind of boats.

Seems like they had a walled in and then obviously, you know, the game picked up as we went along. What did you make finally, Birmingham? You give this out by three? I mean, big time teams make big time plays, right, Like that's really it, Like Magoo chips for down. He needed to make plays. Same thing with Case Cooks.

He played a pretty good game, three touchdowns. I think his interception was that at the back end of the game, if I remember, I'm trying to because I knew Josh Love threw a pick at the end, so I might be getting those games confused. But I mean, Magoo, you know, make with his mobility, it's not always about you know, all the

rushing yards he gets, It's about buying that extra time. And even though on one or two of his sacks that he had, it seemed like he broke broke the pocket, you know, found like was trying to make something happen and then the receivers just it didn't add up, you know. So he had two big drops, one from Jay Sternberger that should have been a touchdown. So I don't remember if they scored after that. But davey on Davis, you know, former Houston Roughneck has been extremely, extremely valuable for

this team. And I mean the defense played a solid, like you know, group effort to make plays at the end and you can't you know, over all, the team's the best team in the league right now. And when you return I think sixty percent of your roster, almost sixty percent of your roster that won a championship. You just need to add some key pieces, and they did. You know, they brought in davy On Davis and

Marlon Williams gets hurt. They pick up the Michael Pettway. Dion Kane is having a great season as well, you know, from the return aspect to also just being another NFL caliber receiver. The tight end. They lose Sage sarat they bring in Jays Sternberger, who's played in the NFL. And when you really have a a QB one A in QB one B, it makes your job as an offensive coordinator a lot easier. Yeah. No, I

and you were talking the air seption. I know Josh Love had that big Hail Mary interception kind of whatever at the end too, So maybe that and we can talk about that. They were not looking good there at the end of Panthers in terms of the stars, you know, still king of the North. I don't know really what that means here at this point. What do you make of them? I know it's kind of been it's kind of a tale of two house this season. Yeah, I mean, their offensive

line play has improved. Fox did a good job of hot highlighting Himmelman. Um, I think his name is Joel Himmelman. He was a late season edition that stars defense is pretty is pretty good on the pass rush. Um. I know Carson Player didn't play this week, but anytime you have Adam Rodriguez and you know they're linebackers, Joel de Blanco, Joey al Fiery and

Gabriel Sewell are all you know, fringe NFL guys and whatnot. Maybe not so much Joel de Blanco because he's a little bit limited sideline in the sideline, but overall, these guys are it's it's it seems like the North is still there, is still their forte, especially when you have Cookis and Corey Coleman, Devin Gray, these offensive weapons, and they're down two receivers I think Chris Rowland's out, and then they have one more. They have another

guy that got hurt as well. So overall, I mean, I think I wouldn't be surprised to see this matchup in three weeks or four weeks again, whenever the playoffs come around or the championship comes around a little bit dull for me, you know, but for all we know the Panthers have a good game if they make the playoffs and they take out the Stars, and the number two in the South has a good game and they take out you

know, the Stallions, and then we get a different game. I mean, I'm still going to obviously watch this championship game, and I think it'll be a good game. But if we get the twenty seven to twenty four USFL Championship, I don't see many people complaining about that. At the end of the this episode that I want to have a little conversation about kind of the how the USFL and XVEL exists kind of differently, So hopefully we remind

me about that. But the yeah, I don't know. I don't know if this is the most exciting, but you know, look, you had the Renegades and all that. I mean they think can happen here with the one game playoffs, I think it leaves for a lot of unpredictability there. I like the idea, like you said, I the playoff or something where we have you know, it's just the eight teams and the ten weeks, Like, how can we figure out something different than just one seed play two

seed. I like the alleged us of value of the one seed and play in the other division whatever. I just I think you can experiment more with that and obviously have it known ahead of the season and not kind of change stuff. But it is weird that you would think that they would experiment more than just well, this is the way it kind of feels like it should be done, and that's the way we're gonna do it. Like you can

experiment with anything here. Yeah, And I think I think maybe that's a conversation you have prior to the season and that week five you mentioned it and you sit down the coaches and you're like, hey, man, like, do you guys want to win the championship or do you want to have jobs next year? And I know that's a hard question, right, but I mean if we go in the year three and it's Stars Stallions again, like

what do we do in here? You know? And I think I do think overall, like it's definitely more competitive in the South, and it was last year obviously, you know, the the show Boats slash and its last year tailed off at the end, um tailed off at the end. The Gamblers where they were competitive, but they went three and seven, and the Panthers and the the Panthers and them in the in the Mullers where you know, one and nine and two and eight. So I mean, from a

competitive marketing standpoint, I think they're doing a decent job. But I mean banking on Alex Magoo to be that highlight reel, you know, and leaving another game drive like he did this week, or a game winning drive like he did this week, how does that boats for your ratings? You know, how does that boat like? It's it's definitely fun. You know, it was definitely good to see him, you know, doing his Johnny Manziel

impressions and whatnot. And then you know, given the ball back to uh to the start to the star to the stars with like think fifteen or twenty seconds or whatnot. But I mean that fourth quarter was competitive. You know, that's for Stallion Stars. So in the end, especially for the casual viewer, I don't think they'll care. But for the t for Twitter stand they might. They might be a little bit more resistant, which at times it seems like the only people who watched the usfl or xfl are on Twitter

the heat thing? Did you bother? Did that bother? You? Right? Was it the Stallions game where they were showing the on field they would I mean, it's it's really hot to play here in Birmingham in Gune. Yeah, I mean I put it. That's kind of my my high horse about the expanded rosters. Yeah, you know, just because you know that

fifteen yard rush would take to an extra second. You're gonna need a little bit more water to feel better, you know after a fifteen yard rush and whatnot, where you really where you really moved, you know, twenty six yards because you had to go from the backfield to bump it out to the outside and whatnot. So I mean, I really really want to see that

expanded roster. Maybe do it kind of like in baseball where they well they did expand the rosters of forty guys in September, but we'll see what happens on that. I mean, I don't know the temperatures from last year, so excuse my ignorance, um, But yeah, with these with these guys like you know, kind of dog I don't want to say they're dogging it because they're not, but I mean it's just it's just when it's hot, you're playing football in pads and you add eight weeks of workload. We're gonna

get tired. It's not a big deal. It's it's not indicative of bad football. It's just reality coming here. I know Mike Mike and his article Fords and Ali said, like Mitchell really hard on the General is here showboats continuing? I like there they posted that, you know, the grim Raper going and taking out all the teams and here on a five o run. What do you make of the showboats here? Todd Haley really on top of

the world. I mean, I think they did a great job with their with their their their marketing department seems pretty on point as far as with the memes and whatnotum So I really do, I really do appreciate them. I do like that the grim Raper meme is always good when it comes to sports.

I mean, it comes out on the Ko Kelly through a bad interception I think in the second quarter, you know, when they down I don't know if they were at the one yard line or whatnot, but I remember watching it and just kind of like, WHOA, what's going on here? This quarterback situation is abysmal for the Generals. They went to Crew Cup obviously, who through two touchdowns kind of ignited the spark and everything like that.

With his legs, I think he had almost eighty rushing yards if I'm correct, If you want to pull that down, I want to be very very clear on this. Yeah, seventy six rushing yards. I want to be very clear on this. I do think Kyle law Lets should be in an all football league. I just don't want him starting for my football league. And I do think Crew Cup has that skill set that's a little bit more unique. But something that I always felt and they mentioned it so many times

is a time of possession and if you can pull that up. I last I checked was like forty one minute, like eighteen to the generals and whatnot. So you got some big boys on that defensive line like Hercules Matafafa was in that backfield all the time, Chris orr was doing his best and whatnot, and he got obviously big Toby Johnson there as well. Like you can't have your defense on the field for forty plus minutes. How many plays did they run? I know you gotta pulled up players here. Where is the

time of possession? Total play seventy one to forty four? Yeah, I mean, what do you what do you what do you want? What do you want a three hundred and fifty pound man to do? Like, like like come on, dude, Like especially when you got a guy like Cole Kelly. I know he had two or three fourth down rushes and then he

had two draw plays. I remember as well. So you have this six seven dude, two hundred and fifty pounds rolling for you know, with that offensive line behind them, because they had two of those sneak plays and then he ran some draws. You're asking your defensive line to do a lot, and then kind of at some time seems that Mike Riley is just kind of, you know, chilling, living in his best moment type thing. There were some clock management issues that Mike pointed out that we're a little bit of

concerning and whatnot. But we've talked about in the nauseam with the generals. They they live and die by the rushing attack one and two. They also, um, they also have what's his name, DeAndre Johnson who's still hurt. Um. That's that's sir Brendan Butter. And I've been very vocal about

his improvement as a passer in this league. Like he's definitely a top five top four when healthy, depending what he does with his legs, and not to have him in this league right now is really is I think hurts the overall, just like I don't know, just the fun of it in my opinion. Are you surprised? And I was thinking about this, you know, obviously the Loletta prow Cop and all this with that. You know, last year it felt like, you know, with we saw the Maelers that

you're kind of making quarterback moves here. You know, we're bringing in badly, we're doing all that stuff. I don't know if it's the existence of the XFL this year and there's less, but like the generals haven't really even seemed to address this at ALOGI well, this is who we had, Like, this is kind of what we're doing. It just seems weird that there's not as much right like kind of trying to replenish or bring in someone off

the streets here. Yeah. I mean they brought in Eric Barrier, um, so something that hasn't been tweeted out by the league and shame on. And I talked to another newsroom guy about it. I don't remember which one, but um, you know he was on the call with us trol lady said that I don't know what is this regardless, and I apologize for not air quote shouting this guy out. But in the end um they seemed that they made a little bit of a drug deal with the barrier thing because DeAndre

was in red. Helped me out with this if you can that they allowed the show boats or not the Generals to be at fifty one because of the NFL rule and nothing. And I got to rewatch it, but no one has made a tweet about it because of DeAndre Johnson being hurt. Interesting, Yeah, and they brought it up and they talked about for a minute, and I was just kind of like, we're just gonna gloss over this real quick, you know. It was just like, yeah, you know,

the Generals they're having some quarterback issues and we address that. So we're gonna let them have fifty one because uh, you know, it's good for the league and whatnot. I'm like and then, oh, by the way, R J. Young doesn't know that offensive linemanigga this And it was kind of like that can we can we can we roll that one back please because you said it really quick and slow, DJ, and I need you to expand on that and it's just to me like that that's been really the only movement

we've seen, um like sexy signings and whatnot. I know, J Perry and Brian Lurkey, you know Lurkey and Michigan guy going back up to Michigan. He's our QB two now EJ Perry up there, jamarsh Smith obviously getting hurt. They brought back Kyle Sloder who gets to get paid to hang out with his girlfriend or fiance, which is beautiful, but um, you know, it's the QB signings haven't been the in during the season, haven't been

the sexy like wow type thing. Well, and like I said, I just I don't know if that's because everyone else is tied up you know in arleying turn or whatever. It is weird. And I know we've talked about this in the group chat that the one team that got literally fined and punished for our season roster or whatever really has done nothing to address anything with their roster in the generals and now getting Yeah, this preferential treatment again, interesting

interests. I like that. I like the conspiracy. It's like yeah, yeah, well you also have like with the if you know this some of these XFL guys that got signed at the back half of the season, you know, when there was some quarterback thing, it seemed more of just like, we just don't want these guys going anywhere, like we out their riots type thing, like you know, Vinnie Tessa Birdie Jr. Who's one of the nicest guys I've ever had the privilege of meeting. Like, yeah,

that was kind of a homie thing. But you know, when Ryan left for the show Boats the BattleHawks, they took Manny Wilkins, who has you know, who was at the Showcases, spent a year with the Packers. You know, that's a guy that you know is a good Alt League quarterback.

And then you had some of these IFL guys they took. But Kelly Bryant was a big guy who you know, maybe not the best quarterback, but he's got a little bit of a name recognition, success, National championship and ended up you know, doing pretty well with the Renegades as a read option type guy. And it kind of seemed like some of these dudes that you know, we're going to get no burned, like DeAngelo Fulford, I

think he's on the Vegas on Vegas. It kind of seemed that like they just kind of were like, Yeah, you could go to USFL and make more money, but do you want to play now? And with players, you know, they're just especially these back end roster guys in these alt leagues are just like, you know what, I'd rather make fifteen grand now and then do my QB training in the back half then you know, go to

the USFL and not really know what's going on type thing. So they took that that guaranteed like couple grand plus you know, job security versus a little bit of like a future. I think the Angel of Fulford was in the USFL during the off season as well, so you know, good for him, brought in a couple of grand for him. Well, I like, and we talked about this on the kind of Andy and I with the rookie draft that they announced here the XFL on the on the Friday Show. But

you know where last summer you had US or XFL. They're kind of deal whatever USBL Yeah, we're making all these off season right, Yeah, we're bringing people on and the generals and kind of all that stuff. Having this draft, and I know that we were critical of the you know, the rights draft and the the USFL college draft, but where the XL this taking place, you know here on the sixteen USFL still in season. Yeah, they're going to be getting out. Then they're going to kind of if they're

head around, Okay, what do we want to do this summer? The x BEL coming in. Now, all these guys that are sitting around, Hey, you got a place here, come beyond the roster, we'll ride out. They're going to kind of supersede that. Where the USFL when last year really made no sense because it was before the draft and you have all these players like you know, if you're unless you're aware of, hey, I'm not going to get drafted. Hey, now I'm in. I'm in

the big draft. I don't need to worry about you, right, and then whatever it ends up happening with that, you know, you had the like the pr GAS where your reporters are asking the guy like do you want to come to the USFL. It's like no, like I'm going to get drafted here. But I think the timing of this makes more sense and I'll be curious to see what the USFL does in the offseason. Excuse me this summer to address that where the XFL. It feels like they're getting the headstart

now going into this signing cycle. This year, I think they're in the I think the USFL has kind of been a rock in a hard place um in my opinion, because it's like I'm gonna timestamp that. Okay, I really, I really think they do. Because now the XFL season's over, you have all these guys going to OTAs and mini camps and whatnot, and then from there it's kind of like, Okay, June is here, June

sixteenth this year, I did my mini camp. Or like a guy who's on the Panthers now, Levi Bell, he was signed for three days, he was drafted by the USFL and then he got cut and like, I don't think he even went the OTA's right, So it's kind of like, okay, what do I do Forever you Levi Bell? There's ten guys who aren't like Levi Bell who weren't drafted by the USFL. So it's kind of like, in my opinion that damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Part of me would like to see the USFL do. They're draft in May, They're college rights draft in May, because now you have all the Okay, the chips up settled, I didn't get signed, But at the same time, they're in season. I mean, they're not even going to do that when they're how are you? How are you going to do that? Right? So, I mean, what else are they gonna do it? You know, they're draft, Like do you do a draft after the XFL draft, Like, I think you're gonna be able the poach in February.

Some fringe guys a little bit quicker that aren't sure of themselves that you know, because they have the NFL out right, So if like the NFL team wants to, like I get drafted, I could go play in the USFL or whatever, I get a call like I'm out, dude, you know what I mean. So I think the XFL definitely has the upper hand now that the Chips have settled and whatnot, because it's it's weird, like sometimes I feel like the USFL has like the upper hand on some like fringe

NFL guys who don't get their futures contracts. And then sometimes I feel like the XFL kind of because of their timing of their season kind of gets like I don't want to say strong arm, but like because now they're kind of doubling down there just like hey, man, if you're not here by week sixteen, like sucks to suck, dude, you know, like like you're moving out of the opportunity. And then you're like, Okay, well I just didn't get a futurest contract. Like do I want to go to the

XFL. It's week five. You know I'm gonna get spun up in two weeks and then I have three weeks of game film. Like, guy like Philip Lindsay can do that because we know who he is and we know the type of running back he is. And at this point, Philip Lindsay is just trying to go from an eight hundred thousand dollars contract with the Texans to a million dollar contract with the Cardinals with a two hundred thousand dollars guarantee.

Like that's what Philip Lindsay did when he played in the XFL this year. He was going to get an opportunity once that running back that's hurt. But now it's like, Yo, this dude still hasn't we saw three games from him. Let's bring him in. And that's something I'm very curious about moving forward. If we're going to have some more rentals for the XFL in the

week five and on type thing. Yeah, I heard some very interesting stories about Philip Lindsay and just kind of some frustrations with him in the kind of June and the running game and on that with the c Dragons. But I was corresponding with one of the someone that's involved to kind of the XFL draft. I get in all this rand up. I was talking with them last week because I said, hey, I appreciate just when the USFL did THEIRS,

I'm like, okay, what is this, what's going on? And I thought the inside the league called the XFL did with Russ and Doug just I appreciated the transparency, like this is why we're doing this is what's going on. And they expressed to me, No, we really feel like this is the right time. We like the time that we're doing this. So we're going to get a lot more of these people that we draft actually be in the league because now we're giving them kind of a home from the summer.

I can get my head around, Okay, this is what I'm going to do. Where with the USFL, it's almost like I think it's maybe it's not fresh enough because they haven't been drafted. They don't know that they're not getting drafted. Like I think by now you've processed. Okay, it's mid June. I'm not making it to the NFL this year. Let me figure out what else I want to do. I just like the idea of that. I just a couple of quick go go ahead, and then we

have a couple of quick questions. We'll do the last game and get out. I mean that's right, Like that's you're the XFL guys are going to have the ben a fit of figuring their stuff out a little bit more versus the USFL guy. You know, a guy like Jared Horst was the number one overall pick. I mean, I'm sure he's got like a seventh round grade, sixth round grade, and I think he'd be a good player in the USFL. But at this point he's like, well, let me give

this a shot. I get cut. I can go play in the USFL next year because I think he's going to be a fringe practice squad guy, Jared Horst, And let me go get a couple of games on film and prove that I'm healthy, that my footwork is where it needs to be a type of thing. A couple of questions here. Dylan wants to know what is the XL work. Is going to be a televised R on Twitter? Guarantee will not be televised. We will be doing our show. Is still

waiting to figure out when that's going to be. They kind of said mid afternoon the evening on the sixteenth, but that will be our normal Friday show on the sixteenth. We'll figure out, but we will be doing that. And then Mike says, well, the XL will be allowed to draft quarterback Malie Cunningham the same way the USFL. I mean, if they want to. It's like you're drafting their rights. The team's drafting their rights. It's

like the it's like the CFL draft. If this player ever comes up to Canada, the Argonauts or whoever have him, that's how the draft's gonna work. I imagine the same with the XFL wherever, Like if they come into the league, that that team would have first rights on that. Yeah, like, um, you know Malik, And then it comes down to what Malik wants to do. You know, I think he's with the Patriots now or had some workouts. I'd have to look up to see his status.

But in the end, like um, and we could pull up the Patriots roster because it's even you don't know exactly what every player is exactly. You need to know every player the second we talk about him. But you know, you got a guy like he's gonna come in as the QB three and whatnot. Um, you know he's got to beat out Trace mcswourth, mcslory. You know, Bailey's App's not going anywhere. Like you know, what what does Malik want to do? You know, like is does he want

to go play with the Stallions? You know, like I mean, if I'm him, I don't think the Stallions are a team to go to because nothing to do with their system that you have. You have Jalen more than there, who Skip Holds likes, who's got some game time and then some CFL experience. Jamar Smith, who, despite wanting the lead, is still on the roster. You've got Kyle Sloder who who you know, regardless of the ya's or nays about him, he will garner reps over you unless you

blow him out of the water if san Antonio calls. You know, Jack Cohon didn't like the world up. You know, Paxson Lynch is there, read Senett. I think is going to get a practice squad thing because that's kind of our opportunity, because that's kind of his m O. Why would I not go to San Antonio over Birmingham unless unless there's trades or something like that. I'm gonna plug the last game. I'm want to go grab my power cable. So let's get your thoughts here. McLeod kind of getting his

grew back a little bit, still hot and cold. I'm going to meet myself for a second. I'll be right back. Yeah. So for those those watching, McLeod did his McLeod Thingum so off real hot. I think it was four or four, four to six, start out, cooled off a couple of drops once again. I know Johnny Dixon had a big drop, which if you look at his stat line, he's still put up over one hundred Well him, Johnny Dixon and Johnny Jonathan Adams still put up over

a hundred yards. McLeod. You know that second quarterback, that third quarterback in this league, depending on this week, you know, eclipsing two thousand yards this season. Um Jordan Tamu was the only one to do that. Last year he just beat with two games left. I mean, this is why you paid this guy to be down here. Man. He's you know, giving you a shot. Even last week, you know, gave that team a shot and it was the last second interception in the end zone,

you know, granted from forty yards out. But he put them in a decent position to win. And there was a lot of nonsense. That's okay, a lot of nonsense with everything going on and whatnot. So right now we're we're in a pretty good position. I think with the breakers, Panthers have no excuse me, the Panthers have a decent amount of fighting them. With how the South and the North is, I perceived them at least sneaking

a victory in the last week. If Philadelphia wins, maybe they get a light load, uh you know with Badly and and Kevin Thompson getting those reps, and the Panthers can maybe sneak in another victory. But in the end, I see Michigan go home one and one and kind of seeing how the chips fall for these other teams for their possible playoff. Berth we talked about last week West Hills twenty three carries thirty six yards. He's this guy's tired.

He is tired. Um god, you know he's he's coming up on a thousand all purpose yards still managed to put up I think he had like fifty yards or forty yards receiving, so he's still managed to put up almost eighty all purpose yards, which you know, great effort for running back. But in the end, like there's a lot of there's a lot going on with these Panthers defense. Brilin speaks, Leevey Bell continue and Frank Into just won his third Defensive Player of the of the Week award. And another good

interception is did I fever dream? Did you get shouted out by USFL comms or is other fever dream? No? I did. Yeah, it was cool because you know, I got shouted out by USFL comms because of Darius Victor going over a thousand yards being the first running back to do that. But um, I don't know. Hopefully we'll see what happens, you know with this week, because I put out some good content that you know, got shared a lot by a lot of different people, and and um,

what's the word I'm looking for? You know, Alex Magoo was one of them, he crossed twenty touchdowns, like total touchdowns. I think he has sixteen passing and four four rushing, And the only guys have done that since two thousand were Tommy Maddox, AJ McCarron and and Big Ben Denucci. So

McCarron had twenty five total touchdowns in twenty twenty three. So with two games left, it's not out of the realm of possibility, which, depending on what happens, they might not play him on Week ten to keep him healthy.

But it's a very real possibility that Alex mgoo can get to that twenty, that magic twenty six and create like a new ten game record for a lot of these guys, which considering how he has missed time in I think Week four, he missed a couple of series in Week four, and he obviously didn't play the full game in Week one, I think that's awesome. How is how's my boy Garrett Marino doing here? I was like, I kind of wasn't watching the bands. I was like, oh, yeah,

I just haven't heard that a lot of them. We haven't brought him up a lot this season for kind of all the controversy come with it. I mean, he had a decent game. I think he had one, two, three, uh tackles from Austin. Um. You know, he's he's listed as a starter. They do a decent amount of rotation. I know he's had two or three sacks. He's he had a nice hit on Cole Kelly a couple of weeks ago. But I mean, I mean that defense. You know, he's he's clogging up in the interior with Walter Palmore and

whatnot. Big do you that coming from Missouri? Um? But Levi Bell and in Brilliance Speaks and Frank Into are the star studied players of that of that Panther's defense. He's just an enormous man. I watch I was like, oh my god, like this guy. It's he's crazy. Yeah. Um, I mean Garrett. Garrett's a you know, obviously he's a very controversial guy. He's blocked me on Twitter. Um, he's blocked probably a third of Twitter on Twitter. Whatnot? I mean, I mean, I'd

like to believe he's probably a decent human being in real life. And you know, when you play football, maybe you know, you just get a little bit lost in the sauce on it. But in the end, he's

you know, he's definitely not. He's not He's seemed to be keeping his nose clean, which I mean we could say this is his third opportunity because you know, he was in the NFL for five minutes and CFL then uh then um, you know, now the USFL, so you know, maybe he can keep his nose clean and garner another opportunity to go back up North, make a little bit more money or and whatnot. I don't know if he's been banned from the league, but in the end, definitely definitely not

a drag at all. You know, he's he's doing a decent job being a role player. They started implementing guy out of Syracuse named Jamal Milan in there. He's younger and Garrett, I believe. So you know, those three guys have been doing a lot of the Brent work as far as that. And then you have Ethan Ethan Westbrooks as well as there and he uh, you know, contributes a decent amount as well. Last question for me on here. Uh, First of all, I do think Garrett's like soft

band from the CFL. I think there when he cut before I think Ambrose he came out and said no teams roll out, so I don't know if

that'll, you know, would go over. I was like last thing McLeod on here, I know Naylor and the tweet, and I don't know why we're still talking about this, like McLeod going back up to the CF double dipping, and I know he was on Sam show talking about it, and he was on our show obviously, and what do you make of him double I don't see him ever going back up to especially with the argos you're too

crowded right now. Well I could see him going to the CFL in one capacity of a five week like five week, fifteen grand a week, like you gotta make it worth it for me, homie, you know what I mean. But the thing is, and we've and I don't want to say I'm sick of tired and talking about this, but it's like these guys got

to take naps. They got yes, Like like I know, I don't know how much traits because I know when you had Trey on your show, you talked about a little bit, but his big thing on your show was like getting healthy obviously the cleat stuff. But you know when I talked to Tray on mine, like you mentioned that a little bit more in depth, you know, and it's like, yeah, he probably had a good fiscal year because you know, he more CFL checks. I think he had like

ten and then the US or XFL checks. But let these guys like rest Man, like yeah, they can't just go no, yeah, and I think you put it in our group chat and like I think I put it out like I broke it down, like I was, like McLeod has made almost a million dollars from the NFL. He's probably made close to them in the in the CFL like over because he had two he had one or two

big contracts. It was a four fifty for the Artas and then yeah he had that first year because he's had two years on that, so I mean that was yeah, I mean probably fifty at least. Yeah. So let's then then that he played in the UFL. Not not that that was a financial you know, pipe dream or anything, but that's money. Right.

He does QB training, He probably did QB training at one point. So since he's come into the in the league and since twenty eleven, he's probably made playing football just playing football loan almost three million dollars, like granted, not like you know, that's over eleven years. It's not the most crazy

amount, but regardless, it's coming big gumps as well. And in the fact that his wife, I don't know, if you know, this is an executive at Disney probably doing okay, he can just chill, you know what I mean, Like, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got a practice squad opportunity in the middle of the season adding some more money on that, you know, and that's gonna be a way less workloaded on your body. Well, I just it killed and I don't not that I don't and

this will be kind of my last thing. We'll get out of here here around the hour. I even this week because one of the guys that oh line when the XFL got signed to the tie Cats or whatever there's I was like, oh, like, how many more I get all the how many more people are going to go up to the CFL or why is the XFL not a lot? Like how is that? Like you said, these guys I have to take naps, especially going up to the CFL, Like okay, so now I need to go fly these secondary home up in Canada four

six months, leave my family. If I have kids, your wife's spouse, whatever, you'll leave my family, go up there, play you know, a twenty one week season, come in here, and you know, deal with all the conversions, deal with all that stuff, deal with the visas like it is. It's a ton of work. Like yeah, it sounds easy. Oh yeah, logistically have him go up and sign with the

VC lines wherever. It's very hard to do that. And I just don't think people like, obviously you want them to have the opportunities and play as much as anyone wants to, but I just think that the actual logistics of how difficult that transition is get lost sometimes in this. Yeah, it's just like it's too much, man, it's too much on your body, Like you know, everyone talks about like Kavante Turpin. He played in the USFL and then the X and then the NFL and like he tailed off, but

we conveniently forget that. He played in the Spring League. In twenty twenty one, he played in Fan Control Football. He played in Europe for like five games, and back in twenty twenty he played some arena ball. I think with the first go either. So you're going on twenty twenty to end

of twenty twenty two. All those practices, those reps, plus the training and whatnot, like and then he plays in a playoff game for the Cowboys and you're just like bro man, like Tray said it best, Like some of these vets, like they literally get off your feet, do not move for that day, like let your feet rest, like you know, like I had a day. No, not them some premiere athlete, but I had a day. I was with a client. I didn't bound for seventeen

hours. Like the next day, I could not do that, do anything. Like my back was hurting because you know, I have gear on my hip and whatnot. You know, like you know, I'm walking around running at some points dealing with people different you know, when it gets crowded, I gotta you know, put a little bend in my knee and whatnot, and you know, tense up to grab this person out of here. And it's like, dude, like that's just me doing what I do. And like the next next day, like I'm out for it. I can only

imagine for sixty in it's hitting someone repetitively. Yeah, well I think we did good today. I got here. All of us of LT week A appreciate it. Pat is always doing Lord's work, trying to do my best to keep up. It's just I tell you, and the same with the CFL. I was texting with one of the CFL media guys. It's really hard for me to keep up with these games with my work schedule. Just not that my work is challenging, just the timing of everything. But do

you my best on here. Appreciate it. Like I said, CFL pregame show coming up Thursday, four pm Pacific, have got to correspond today, but should be a loaded show. Andy and I Friday special live show and then I assume pallably back God Willie next Monday. We'll do this one more time, a couple more weeks here of USFL and then we'll figure that out. Anything else from you now, guys, appreciate it as always turning tuning in. You know, the we talked about it with content and whatnot.

It's you know a lot of football fatigue for some people and whatnot. But you know, our these videos have been doing a decent amount of you know, feedback and whatnot. And you know, I got some guys coming on my show after the season, and you know I got one an XFL guy. I'm talking to on on Wednesday, so I'll have that at the at the back end, so you know, just shameless plug from from not only myself but someone else. UM give him. You know Sam Shady, we

talk about him all the time and he's done a great job. One of his guys, Michael Washington, who's very knowledgeable. Just an interview with um. Um. Yeah, so guys, you know a couple of y'all watching this, go ahead look that up. UM and then obviously you know where to find me on Twitter is by Pat Raffino and analyze and educating on YouTube. I think yeah, Sam was talking about having me on at some point and then uh I curiously once the crack and kicked the crap out of the

Colorado Avaliche to the Standley Cup playoffs. I think Sam got a little guy a little hour about that. But I think at some point we'll do that. Pat has always appreciate it. Thanks everyone like and subscribe. We'll see you Friday or Thursday, and then Friday should be a busy week. Thanks again, always

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