USFL Week 6: What Did We Learn?

Well here we are. Everyone happy CFL preseason day here kicking off in about three hours. I think they're monitoring the weather, the smoke from the fires up there in Calgary scene. If we're going to get the CFL on today, bide in a little bit of time here at the beginning. Pats pulling into his house right now. But I'd like to start these streams on time. So we're going to talk a little CFL preseason wait for Pat. We're gonna do the full USFL Week six breakdown today. Very exciting, and I

watched most of the games. You know, McCloud struggling a little bit, you know, Stars one. How great of a win was it? I don't know. We will talk to all that. Just had a tremendously interesting Twitter DM conversation here. I will tell you if you are ready for CFL coverage here after we get you know, it'll be here in the USFL and preseason and all of that. But if you are ready for some high quality

CFL content, I have a lot of stuff in stort. Just had a tremendously exciting Twitter DM conversation literally moments before hopping out here, So very excited about that. Chris is checking in here, he's saying, let's go. Jenna also checking in. Jenna should be happy her show boats. You know, just absolutely kick the kick the crowd out of the Mauler's gonnam Mall. I think Maulers came back down to earth. Here. We're getting some good

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the CFL season. Very excited for preseason. I don't know if I'll be like watching all the all the preseason games starting to finish, but certainly exciting. And I have some really great guests lined up coverage this week and next. We're going to have a live show for our pregame for the CFL on the APH. Have some special guests for that, and then I also have a special show. I still got to talk with Andy about it, but Andy and I are gonna have a Andy, We're gonna have another live episode

coming up here that fits into your schedule, but really excited here. I see Pat's Pat's hopping on. We'll make sure he's all squared away here. Jennis Mike says USFL was a rough watch this weekend. I don't want to be negative, so we'll see if Pat feels the same way. And then Darren says, what's up with USFL offenses should be mess better? I agree, I agree. We'll talk through all that. Pat, Can you give me a thumbs up if you're ready? Cool? Pat is here, Let's

bring this down. Let's bring in Pat. Pat, how are you doing? And you are muted? Okay? Pat is still muted. Looks like he is also frozen. So we're back. I think you're I think you're yeah. Pat, your connections way off here? Sorry about that, Pat? Just calling from your phone? Calling from your phone? Here. Let me pull up the USFL schedule here. We can start getting into this stuff. Let's just see a pack and calling on his phone. Seems like his

internet connection little wonky here. Uh, let's get down to where we're at week six. This is always fun for these live shows. We'll get through it. We'll get through it here. Um. So, first off, we had the Pittsburgh Bawlers coming in Pittsburgh, you know, had not played as horrendously as they have last season. Still struggling a little bit, showboats putting on the clinic, a shutout, we had the ill fated longest that touchdown kickoff return, you know, kick in whatever, one hundred and eight

yards, all of that. I don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing for the USFL to hang their hat on, but certainly tremendous fell really bad for the Bawlers. I felt, like, you know, it was there trying to do all of that, trying to okay, let's get some points record before we go into halftime. Certainly did work out, all right? I think Pat's on. Now, let's get Pat again here. He's still typing on here. Let's Pat, We got you here? Are we doing this time? Guys? Perfect? We're perfect? First

off, guys, A thousand apologies for being late. Um it was I don't know, you know, I'm paying almost two hundred dollars in Wi Fi and everything. You would think it would work right, It's okay, it's okay, Pat, are you do you? You know we talk here, Let me get let me get this off here. We'll do a little back. We either we talk back and forth. Hey, we're going live this week, we got to talk to you as well. What do you make of us about week six? Are we are we where the league should be

currently? I don't know, man, because and this is my biggest thing is what what is the expectation? I don't think we have expectations right, And that's something that bothers me a little bit because we don't care about the tendons. Well, what are what are the ratings? Like, what your

expectations for the ratings? Like I'm curious to see and they obviously haven't come out yet, and like the percentages and whatnot, right, because you can you could throw three hundred thousand people at their TV screens and that's great if your expectation was two ninety. But if you're expecting five hundred, it doesn't matter if you get ten millions. If you're expecting fifteen million, then you you know this doing media and film and whatnot. Oh, this movie made

one hundred one hundred million dollars. Well, Avatar spent five billion dollars to make it. That's that number isn't sexy anymore so as far as with the

football play. One person I would really want to focus in on is McLeod Bethel Thompson, and I'm very curious to see if, because he played a full slate of games last year, a full season, because there's what eighteen regular season games and then twenty twenty one in the playoffs, if he's starting to have some fatigue something about these breakers quarterbacks in the back half of the

season. You know, we saw that with Slower last year as well, and he was a guy who bounced around a lot of NFL teams and whatnot in twenty twenty one. So I'm very curious to see if that's some fatigue with that overall. I mean, you're seeing some of these defenders ball out to do really well, but is that the Is that the equation of great play or is it the equation of just poor offense and being put into situations.

I've been on the record on this in the USFL, especially, some of these wide receivers are true fringe NFL guys, Like it seems like every team has two guys at that position where I'm like, yeah, that guy could easily fill in in the late season, be a contributor and whatnot. So I'm very curious to see what the actual and helped me out using the

correct word because I didn't finish my four year degree. Is the disassociation maybe of the translation between their play to the quarterback, Like you know, by week six, we should be like Chris, like we saw that Josh Love mishap at the end of the half, and I'm kind of just like, what's going on here? You know, on the on the bright side of the kicking, like the actual field goal kicking is way improved from last year. And I know everyone can bring up the chips, but there was some

bad kicking after the chips were removed. So I'm really and I talked with Mike Mitchell about this all the time. Is the way you air quote make your money in these leagues as far as oh, we sent this guy to the NFL, is always going to be your specialist? Yeah, no, I know what you're saying. It's it's hard because and you know, and I never want to come on in in poo poo any of this stuff. I watched three of the games this weekend. I had a wedding Saturday night,

so I missed the Birmingham you know, Panthers. I want to talk about that. You know, Panthers can't seemingly win it home, you know, but I hear and I had messages yesterday, you know, uh, they should be further along now. I've also get messages when the XFL was

just as bad. People have brows cover. I don't know if having the attendance there sweetens that, but it is hard to watch like that breakers game, them struggling coming down the field either we each have one drive each and in the quarter or whatever, and there's not a lot of fanfare, and it's just hard. It's I don't know if if if even the limited crowds that the XFL that made it better or worse. I don't know if that

kind of hides out of it at all. I'm also having an issue with the officiating and and it just and this is kind of the double edged sword right where it's like I don't want guys getting tackled down field. But like case cook is, I think through three scored three touchdowns yesterday, I don't he scored two. I think there was one he was close on and it got called back on the passing play, and I'm like, dude, like what do you like? And like there's holding on every play, there's there's

rough housing on every play. The unnecessary roughness, the taunting. I get it. You know, I was hoping because of how aggressive they were, it was gonna kind of keel it back a little bit, and it seems like guys are still doing whatever they want to do. Um, you know, I'm not get it. It's the heat of the moment. Like I've I've played competitive sports. You know, you make a big play, you knock someone down, you know you landed a good a good, a good

strike on someone, like you're you're you're pumped about it. I get it, But it just seems like every five minutes, like when you have an eleven yard rush and you do one of these and you accidentally hit the guy, they're calling a flag on it, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, this is I mean, it's taunting. Yeah, but like I just ran over a bunch of grown men. I'm a Division three running back.

No one thought I'd be playing pro football. Yeah, I'm a little excited about that, Like I'm not for all Like and you know, I'm gonna come off as like old man yelling at the sky, like I think the uh. When they get the interception and it's a three yard return and then everyone and their mother goes down to the other end zone, I'm like, okay, yeah, I get it, Like you know that that that kind of homers me a little bit because it gives me the fan control vibes

where I'm like, bros, is this is enough? But it just, man like, it seems like every fifteen and a half seconds, there's a like I don't know how long that last like part of the Stars game took. Man Like, I was like trying to stay focused, but it was just getting annoying for me. Yeah, I never I never played a second of confetitive sports ever. I can't even found that I played a little league

baseball. I was placed out in left field or right field. I was sat the absolute maximum times they could sit any child that was allowed by the bye lines of the you know, little league. So I didn't understand all of that, but I did enjoy that after the Cookies flip interception, which I believe that gentleman was out of balance. I think it still was on the line. We got the out of balance there, but yeah, they were celebrating. They're like they were two and a ten in the review,

they go, I think they're still celebrating there in the end zone. They're just absolutely going crazy. It does feel and you're talking about the officiating. What's crazy to me is as bad as the officiating is. The XFL right had questionable officiated as well, but the USFL announcers complaining constantly about how bad the officiating is, or at least in the in the XFL, they kind of covered for Dean. They're like, oh, yeah, okay, I

kind of see where Dean's coming from here. Like they they're constantly disagree with Mike. They're constantly disagreeing with the calls. They're constantly saying it should be the thing. I go, you shouldn't be you know, you should at least be kfabe for your own product. I'm like, no, this is right, Like we're okay with this, and then you can, you know, you can talk privately if there's if there's a problem with that, think

man. But like at the same time, I kind of like I think, and we've talked about before, like Fox puts on a good product, and why do they put on a good product? Thirty percent of that is because of the because because of the analysts right, the color played by play, and like I kind of got annoyed with the shilling and thefl for the officiating, like if you're Jet and like, yeah, real real football, real fans lines, um, I mean Faco lines all over the levels of

football. But like I kind of like the fact that like they're like, yeah, that's jacked up, Like don't show you know, like what the what they're gonna do? They're gonna fire Cam Jordan, you know, like like I'm good with that. Like I think it kind of takes away. I don't WoT it takes away, but it kind of makes it a little bit more enjoyable to me, like, you know, like to see them not go with the flow on that, like be you're you're an adult,

make your own decisions, and what are they gonna do? FI fire these guys. They're gonna fire brock Huard. Okay, Like I'm good with that, but this is just constant. It felt like it was constant yesterday.

It felt like every other thing with them disagreeing with the officiated. I'm like, he can we It's as bad as if you wanted to critique on the Hey, this guy wants to go to the NFL, like take a shot watching the XFL games the same thing, take a drink anytime that they had disagree with the officiated, the same level as far as just like yeah, I get it, like same level of like the betting, the betting and

talk the XFL. And like the biggest thing for me when we talked about the players was a I mean remember that Luke Marku game, like where they're like, if Luke Barku holds Josh Gordon to less than three catches, He's going to the NFL. And like that's kind of a meme in my mind. Like anytime, like I see a Luke Barku thing, I'm like, yeah, that guy's gonna go to the NFL because he held three catches. And I was like, not because of his other nine games that he had

good coverage and has good you know, movement in his hips. It's because you know they that Yeah, that's that's the one reason. Yeah, okay guy, Yeah, Mike, again, this is not my comments I get. I think I get a lot of I think a lot of people that write into this show. I think I get like, oh this is I am not writing these things. Mike Prayers seems like he'd rather be anywhere else anytime they go to him. I again, I think Dean benefits from just

being really good looking and charismatic. I think Dean can get away with you. Pat. You could say just now anything they mean you wanted, because see that's just Pat. This is driving back. But Mike comes off as like the lizard, you know, the troll, like the swamp lizard. There's like a right here, yeah, I mean, I mean there's there's pretty privilege, right like, I mean, how many times, and I hate to say this, you know how many times does you have a good

looking guy say something at work doesn't get a lot of those eyebrows. But you know someone whose butt is in the front instead of the back and they say something and he's a creep, right Like, I mean that kind of get that same vibe as well. You know, Dean's Dean's got a good hairline going for him, you know, younger guy, you know, just enough of scruff, good jaw line. You know, let's oh, it's just Dean. He's cute. You know, it's fine. Look at him,

look him up there. So here's my question. So and then we'll get into all the games to do that'll get the game by game. Here are his his. I felt like we saw this a little bit in the XFL. You know, we saw like the Roughnecks, right and they kind of you know, crater toward the end of the season and people were kind of, uh, you know, I was told, people are catching up to a J. Smith, Right, the defenses are figuring this out.

We saw that in the championship game, right, Arlington very prepared for DC. It kind of knew exactly are in the USFL are the offenses scaling down? Are the defense is getting that much better because they you know, Chris As, you're all, ax, the defense is improving more right now every game? But is it an offensive issue or is it the defense is improvement?

I mean I think it's both. You know, Um, when I talked to two offensive coordinators in the beginning of the season, before you know, games started taking place for the USFL, you know, we're making a little bit of a joke back and forth. I was like, hey, you know, it's kind of the downtime. I was like, you got any articles, any guys you want me to highlight? And they're like, man, if you want to do an article about all these new coordinators and

what schemes they were on. I aint against that, and it's like, you know, you're kind of seeing like you'd probably go to a base defense, you know, less exotic blitzays, less um, you know, stunts on the defensive lines where you're like, okay, So you know, give Bridland Speaks is a is a perfect example. Right, you have a guy like Speaks, everyone knows who he is, decent college pedigree, you know six, you know, obviously viewed as an NFL caliber player at one point.

That's great, but like, what are you gonna do, like Kenny, actually still play. And now that you're seeing that you can still play, now we can get exotic. Now I can tell them to do some different things, but you know, before you're just gonna have them. Okay, man, you're an adult. Use that sec body, go wreck this

left tackle from Farmington amu, you know what I mean. So it's like, now that these defenses are allowed to kind of expand on their role and whatnot, I feel I think that's a big part of it, to where the offense you could just you know, run some quick spread type of offense. And granted there's there's tons of intricacies in offense in both sides of the

football. And I'm not down playing any offensive coordinator whatsoever. I coach offense like I'm a big offensive guy, but you're not dealing with as probably as much exotic blitzing as whatnot, because you can still run a decent like, Hey, our wide receiver beats their cornerback in the cover two, we're good. Like you saw a lot of seam routes like because probably in the early weeks, because it looks like they were playing a lot of Cover two.

And when those safeties kicked back, you know, you can throw it right over the linebacker in front of the safety and there's eighteen yards. You do that five times, and all of a sudden you're in the red zone and you feel like now that it's there, they're not able to be as right

there. They're catching up to that. Yeah, and then you can factor in as you know, then there's the key talking points that we can talk and nauseum fatigue, injuries, stuff like that at the receiver position, the offensive line position, regardless if you you know, shoot for the XFL or the USFL. If that guy was an NFL level offensive lineman, he'd have a futures deal, and offensive lineman will always be in short supply because they're

in short supply for the thirty two franchises and whatnot. So I mean, the offensive line is always the bugaboo, right Like Carson Strong, like as talented, and I know there's a knee injury associated with him, as talented as he was, He's not playing against you know, his his you know, college offensive line, playing against guys who couldn't get past mini camp.

And granted, I've never played at that level, so I don't want to come off as like a hater or anything like that, but it does like it takes a good quarterback and we're seeing it right now with case cook Is and it makes his stat line disgusting. Yeah, we're seeing a lot of comments in the chat here at USFL hate. I watched three of the games this week and no one, no one's hating. No one wants the USFL here and the months of you know post, you know, I want the

CFL to be strong. I want the XML to be strong, or the USL because in that way we have things to talk about all year long. There's nothing I wanted more than the USFL to drop off. Rad is Bama Boy two oh five. I don't know who that is, but yeah, it's it's but that's you know, the whole thing here is is we want this to improve and to be better because you know, we'll see ratings tomorrow and how that comes out. But I want this to be strong because you

want people to have interest in this. That is what what fills the news

calendar the whole way through the year. Is not only that read like, you know, we're not We're not bringing in tens of thousands of dollars guys like you and I, But I mean writing about these leagues, writing about these players, meeting these players, like you know, I I and not to get too edgy, but like I literally just got out some DMS with some player personnel people in both these leagues, and I want I want any person that I come in contact that I feel like, hey man, I

could vouch for. Like granted, like there's a lot of people in both our dms and a lot of people's dms who hate to be disrespectful, don't have any business being on this level of football. But I want these players to succeed. I want these coaches to succeed. Someone that I love and you know, love to see succeeds. The offensive coordinator Eric Marty. I would love to see him in like San Diego or excuse me, La with

the Chargers. You know, he's a great quarterback. Mind. These are there's so many good human beings that are part of the USFL that I want them to have those jobs. I want Mike Nolan to be for the Panthers, god knows how long, so he could keep bringing up coaches like coach Bauer and Christian runs A and create like better lifestyles for them so they can go and live their dream and then when they're done coaching in the NFL,

come back to the USFL and do the next batch. Like t J. Barnes of the Arlington Renegades just called it quits in his career because of the XFL, not because he couldn't play, but because he used that that league to essentially get his life together and like, you know, win a championship like Louis come on, Luis Perez, like both successful in both these leagues.

Man, like that, you know it's not it's like it's no different than when you're working out trying to better your life, man, and like yeah, I've lost ten pounds, but like okay, like you want to get a little bit more fit, Like okay, I'm not benching as much, I'm not squatting as much. These aren't critiques to be a hater.

They're critiques because I want these leads to survive, because I love covering these teams and you know, like you know, the other day, you know, depth charts for a big thing, you know, for us, and like you know, it took us five weeks and like you know, we went for being haters the champions like that kid Will he's not kid who's probably ten years older than both of us, but Will Harris, that gentleman who makes these these free games stuff like like that was something the XFL game to

us as candy and this guy is taking the time out of his day to do it, Like come like champion, this guy. You know what I mean? I did, Like how that one thing got the depth charts out. I got people tweeting me like, oh there you go reading like yeah, there, there you go exactly like who who who complained all last year and then got uh a USFL podcast and Mark and there were all the people into the Championship game, press box. That was us complaining all year about

it. That was what god sorry, and look at what the USFL podcast did did in the past, what like in for whatever they call it, I don't, I don't, I don't know, but regardless, it's like that's you know, granted, we have things going on and I don't know what Stefan and zach I could do. And that's you know, for their full time gig. But I mean that's you know, regardless of how we feel or they feel about us, Like it's huge, champion of the league,

it's great, it's great for the league. They did a great job in the presentation. And I would love to see that you know number that they got be ten times more because it's regardless of how much money they put into it, they still put the effort. But it's like like you have people like that in us, like like not to put myself out there, but you know, I'm trying to get up to Michigan and do all my in person interviews because you know that is easier, that's easier for me to

relay the stories and whatnot. And it's like I'm willing to spend my own time and money to give you guys a platform, you know, and I'm not the largest platform out there, But all it takes is one guy seeing it who's got bigger platforms, like like the dude Brandon Perna, that's good sports. He sees it and he's like, you know what, I'm not doing anything this weekend. I I like Benda Nuci. Let me go talk to him. He's on the Lebroncos talk XFL or like Cayden Davis is on

the Panthers. Now we'll get to the games here and my last time and we'll get to the games and people ask, you know, even XFL and there I've been treated tremendously well, but you know, people ask like, oh this, you know, so I used to be in the big CFL hater. It depends back and forth. Yeah. The reason why I like the CFL is, you know, and I just bought my tickets yesterday, you know, to go up to do the Great Cup. They roll out the red carpet. The CFL is happy with any coverage of any kind,

you know, as long as it's not like offensive or whatever. But you know, I'm beginning to plan the slay the preseason and we're going into the CFL kickoff and I can literally email a hundred different people, email the teams, email the team raps, email reporters. They're like, they're happy to come on, They're happy to talk. The league is happy to have Like, why wouldn't I want to be, you know, work with them and be able to kind of help share that because they appreciate it, right and

in the XFL is that way. And I think that they were dealing with this, you know, the upstart struggles, and I'm hoping and exciting that that will continue throughout this year, you know now that they've kind of got their feet under it. But why wouldn't I talk about these leagues more than embrace and champion the stuff that we do. And it's a copen seedec relationship versus you know Fox that you know, some weeks it seems like they wanted to play ball, and some weeks say, okay, let's we can vamp

at the end if we want to go anymore about that. I was talking at Mahler's show boats when you logged on here at Mauler's horrendous game, you know, shut out, We had the big kickoff return kind of all that that was just kind of the comedy of errors leading into the first half. That was kind of when I got involved in the game. For the most part. Yeah, I mean we saw some major regression from Troy Williams. Um. You know, he did a good job obviously staying mobile, which

is what he does. But he did have a lot of cheap a lot of cheap completions. But he also hit Bailey Gaither on the sideline for a decent game. Him and Isaiah Henny. I think Henny one out three or some one oh four for receiving yards. Um really like that. I mean it just it just seems like the show boats are getting hot at the same time, at the right time. Um. Big thing for my personal opinion with the Maulers is that they don't have a true RB one. I think

Groschek only had one carry. Um, one carry for a couple of yards. He's not a burner, you know, he's the most impressive three yards a carry guy. Because it seems like he's always getting hit in the backfield and then pushing voward for about three yards. Um. He just didn't have it, you know. And that's I mean that that that kick at the end. You know, I don't fault coach Horden for going for that,

I think that you know, you got a good kicker. He's an NFL caliber kicker, and they went for it and it didn't work out, And you know those kick return field goals are always scary. Um. First off, I wouldn't say it was the greatest player I've ever seen, but it was definitely the best field goal return for a touchdown I've ever seen because it wasn't the return because at that point you're just bobbing and weaving through obese people.

You're it was that original catch that he tiptoed. That was what was so impressive to me about it. Well, I was I was told it was the best kick got returning in history. That was I saw. The USFL told me that the history was made. It was the best one ever. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean you only got like thirteen of them to go off of, so I mean it's in the top fifteen. You know, that's pretty cool. But I mean I'm a big showboats showboats guy, um Juwan Washington, you know, a fringe, fringe

guy. In my opinion, Alex Collins was there. He's obviously hurt, but something that people don't talk about enough is Cole Kelly. And I don't know if I talked about it on your show. I know I talked about it in my QB rankings videos and articles. Is when Cole Kelly gets hit, he's sixty seven, probably two hundred and thirty five or two hundred and forty pounds. Man is an adult, So when he's getting hit, it's not the initial Okay, I just sacked a six foot quarterback. I sacked

two. I'm sacking an offensive lineman slash tight end who isn't going to go down so easily unless I have a good like you know, running start, and even then it's pretty impressive to bring this man down. So he's able to throw the football away, thrown incompletion, dump it off to the running back. And now you're going from a second and seventeen to a you know,

second and ten or second and eight or something like that. And that kind of deflates the stat line a little bit because now it's an incompletion now to sacks. So instead of you know, fourteen to twenty four, he's fourteen of twenty, but he got sacked four times. I mean that adds up, you know, because now you're not playing. Now, you're not changing your playbook. Now you're second and eight and you can run the ball. Okay, you got four yards or thirty four, let's run a mesh

route. Let's run it again. And that big factor in his game, I don't think gets talked about enough. No, that's fair hair. We see a lot of comments that need bigger rosters, a lot of injuries. Right, we saw XFL expand us all working on that. Right with the CBA, they're going to add I think another two spots that. Yeah, but again it's it's it's it's cost cutting. You know XFL. They're kind of bumping up the offseason. We'll see how that works out with that.

But legitimate like can um gripe with both leagues is like you got forty you know, forty something people at forty people active? Right now? I got my second? Do I activate that tight end? Okay? Which tight end am I activating? Can he play fullback? Can he play special teams? Like now he's tired And we saw this with the BattleHawks, right uh?

And I talked to coach back about it. I don't want to talk XFL too much, but I was like, coach, when you know one of your players gets hurt, you know, I think Stephen Mitchell or Gary Jennings got hurt. I was like, how does that affect everything on special teams because they're these are your wide receiver fives. And he's like, you know,

it's a lot because now I'm I can't run a fake anymore. You know, I can't I can't do certain mix up on our punt coverages and whatnot, you know, certain things on kick return, you know, and now you're you're shifting guys around, and you're like, okay, well that's you know, our gunner. Who could I use on our gunners? Okay, well two of my dbs are hurt. Now I got to put running back out there. And he's taking three reps this whole offseason. You know.

So those special teams, man, and that's how these guys getting into the league is their versatility. But that it kind of you're having these guys out there sucking winds a little bit more. Well, but you know, it's it's they do that to save money. Because you think about it, You're like, what is the difference? Look, you know, it's it's two more spots, you know, four or five grand a week times,

eight teams times. I mean it adds up really quick, and just adding on to the five roster spots, it's like, you know, million dollars or whatever you do the math rolled out, So I get why they do it. I don't get why, especially you know XFL. We talked with

the Team nine. I when Iakole Koblack on last week the Team nine and Birmingham too, Like when you're in the hub doing that Team nine, having guys maybe you're only paying them, you know, they are non active or fifteen hundred a week, and I know that's hard, but you'll get them in there, get them repping every week and then you're in the hubs anyway, Like how hard is it just to roll them up? Especially last year. I never got why they didn't do that at Burma. I'm like,

every person is living here. Just have a team play, you know, and then you have other people to run routes against in practice just to kind of get them in. But you have that team. They come in, they're like the expendables and you play with them or you don't and at least have it. I just think that there's more creativity that could be done both XFL and USFL to kind of do that. And last year read a couple of players were told that there was going to be a team nine, and

like, you know, I wrote a story on it. I had a couple of people players reach out to me, and it just never happened. And you know, I mean, I mean, you're looking at longevity if here it's it's the bouncing act, right, Like both you and I run businesses, so like, okay, you're cutting the cost here, does it give you an extra year and change to play in the league versus how much money you're losing? But you can't get Like it's hard to get that projection

of how much money you're losing if your product isn't to a standard. And that's something you know, I don't have their Excel sheets, so I don't know that's that's something I think needs to be factored into this. So I mean, if the USFL is around for fifteen twenty years, we'll look back on this and be like, yeah, I guess it was a good idea, you know, to have Sage Sarat playing on all facets of special teams. But again, it's it's something with the coaches, you know, complaining

and critiquey whatever. As people do that, then that is what leads to so that when they do add the team nine or whatever, it's like, oh, there you go. It's like, oh no, there you go, like we we but yeah, But it was the same thing with the XFL. They were going to have the alumni academy experience kind of all season they're rotating through and it just never happened as well. I think, you know, there was other circumstances with that, but um, going to this

game here, this was the only game I missed. I back, wedding season has started. I will say very glad, Patt. The offseason for the wedding videographers in Seattle is very long. You know, I worked kind of constant all year and then it's like I kind of have like a midlife crisis every off season, like okay, it's just what I what do I do with my life? Here? Very glad to get back to this. But I missed the Panthers losing it home again. What is going on with

the Michigan Panthers. They hate to win in Michigan, man, I think it comes down to the quarterback. I mean, you look at that roster and there's there's talent on the roster like Trey Quinn. I don't know if he's statistically top five, but top five guy. There was a lot of shuffle them around. UM. I saw a lot of issues in past protection, not from the offensive line, but from the back spot in which they're

looking. They're not looking at that immediate threat, and it looked to me that they were having a lot of issues playing, like like picking up the additional blitzers and WHATNOTUM. I would like to see a little more of Stevie Scott versus Reggie Corbyn. Um getting the ball to Reggie Corbyn in the passing game. I think it's the most advantageous thing because he's more in space and Stevie Sky it just seemed like every time was bouncing up and up and down,

up and down, like breaking a lot of tackles. You saw a gentleman his name is Quinton pulling on the Birmingham Stallions and seemed like he was in the backfield on every play, coming from his linebacker position, and I think that says a lot about either A. He didn't make a lot of tackles in the backfield. He was just very disruptive. So that's why he's in the usfl couldn't couldn't finish, but even then just disrupting it and then you know, I don't know, and excuse me, guys, I need

to look at like the slow down version of the film. But is that just a miscommunication? Is he just reading it really well? Are the Guards not going to that second level? It just seems like they were a little overwhelmed by Birmingham, which they were the last year champions of what do you

expect to it? But I will say, and you know, I don't want to get into the you know, the attendance and kind of all of these things, but this is a really real thing where I've talked to both kind of on the show and off, you know, the Tony Scotts and the Bill Chaise and the people that are going to And I'd be curious to get Paul Woods's thoughts as well. I know he was at the Breakers game.

But you know, you do this thing in Michigan. You roll in the Panthers, you go to Ford Field, you have you know, now the Lions are on the upswing, you have the history of the Michigan Panthers. You know, I think you're you're trying to impress these you know, real I want to say, like real football writers, real NFL riders coming in and you know, I think Bill, Like I Todd to Bill and he's like, yeah, it's cute, Like it's kind of cool. I

think whatever. But I don't think that you're you know, pressing people maybe the way that they thought that they would, right like, Oh, we're gonna get fifteen thousand people in here, and the riders are going to come in and go wow, Like I get. I think that's where some of this matters. And not that the attendances live all be all, and not that the Panthers winning all the time as the b all and all. But you have this losing team in this vacuum you're bringing in all these riders that

are used to covering the variety. Does that make sense? Like, and I think that it makes it look worse at least in their opinion of what maybe. Yeah, I mean, and I think the football is fine. I mean, it is what it is, it's USFL whatever, But I think it makes it look the'remonstrably worse to them that they're coming in to cover

this with a fresh eye. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Um, you know, when we when we were in the press box in Saint Louis, which is the gold standard I think at this point of all football. Um, you know, some weeks, depending on what the Cardinals were doing, it wasn't there. But you consistently had fifteen members of the media in the press box, you know. And I don't know what Detroit's press

box looks like. I haven't been up there yet. But at the same time, it's like I thought the I thought that the um, the success of the Lions would translate in there. And from what I've been talking to people who have been at the games, Um, you know, that's sixty five hundred number the USFL gave out was was inaccurate. I don't know what they're doing if they're giving away tickets and maybe maybe it was sixteen five. There was a typo. But like I you know, that first week was

a decent a decent showing. The second week wasn't bad either. I mean, this league let let a little bit to be desired in my opinion, you know, but when you're when you lose four games at home, like people aren't gonna want to show and that and that's not that's that that has nothing to do with the league. That just has to do with your team. You know, people don't people at times don't go to Mariners games,

A's games if the teams aren't doing well. You know, I was, I'm a Mets fan like those those those late tooth out like after that, oh seventh season, you can get tickets for ten dollars and be down by third base like that's that's not that's not a USFL problem. It's okay. You like, you have a good market. I think Detroit's a good market.

Do something with it well. Also, I mean even even XFL I had a problem with that when they came to like you know, the Brahmas and people go away as well because they started twenty four thousand they didn't mark it well and then the team wasn't very good. And it's really hard, like it's such an easy thing when you're you know, not in that market,

right. And I got the same thing with the Seattle fans for the c Dragons and there, why is the Seattle show that it's like you're not here like there there's different circumstances for every city, but you can't just say, well, The fans need to show up. The fans need to be there. We have a comment here about Bird with him I'll pull up, but I'm like Seattle, you know, you're competing terrible leather, the crack and all this uff. Brahmas. The team is not very good. They're

not marketing right Michigan here either. There's all these but it's so easy to sit there. Oh you should go. They needed da da da da, Mike says. Most worried is Birmingham really thought they would not only stay steady but grow this year, considering there in the SNY champions I know, I mean, but again, Birmingham, there's not that many people in Birmingham. I mean, there's so many people that are gonna want to go watch games.

They're gonna go watch the Stallion's gonna go watch spring football. Yeah, see straight straight. I think the attendance in Birmingham has to do a time of the games, time of year, school activities. Yeah, I mean Birmingham. To me, that's one of the largest stories that we don't necessarily talk about because we kind of did the whole last year of it. But like that's still very much in this show and we don't I don't like, we don't have like I can't pull up the numbers to tell you what's yea

or nay. And that's disappointing because if I want to say, like, oh, Birmingham looks good, I have to go on YouTube and like watch that. I don't want to come off as lazy. But at the same time, it's like I can look at the San Antonio numbers and be like, okay, twenty four twelve twelve, twelve twelve, there's an issue here. I can't do that with like, you know, any I can't do

that with the USFL And that's what annoys me a little bit. And it's like, you know, I think there's gonna be a lot of like people that are gonna be like, oh, these attendance numbers are terrible, like this league trash, and like you can do that all you want. That's fine, like to an extent, you know, some people take it to another level. But I'm not doing that to be a jerk, Like I'm doing it because I want to know, like am I going to have like

are these people going to have jobs next year? Are these people going to do this? Are we gonna be able to have a certain portion of our job next year, you know, and it's like, come on, guy, like like play ball a little bit. And that's the thing is like my aunt who doesn't care about football at all, and it was mother's day. I'm watching the game and she's like, oh, is this college And I'm like, no, this is a pro league, Like let her know

about it. She goes, I earned anyone. Why isn't anyone there? And I'm like, man, I'm gonna try to have this conversation on mother, Like but yeah, it's like it's it's it's it's the It's the ultimate bugaboo for the USFL. And I hate it because there's so much more to their income and what they bring in and advertising, like they got the golden

ticket with the with Fox. But at the same time, like to the casual viewer, they're not going to spend twenty minutes on their phone to look about like it is the USFL financially successful, you know, Like they don't care. They just want to watch a game. They want, you know, they want to see good football and they want to see you know, fans in the stands losing their mind. I will I will share. I have a rant here at the end of the show. We'll get to it.

Jacob says, Yeah, there's not a lot of marketing Drivesy bird with him often he's four billboards. I just Chris always gives me laugh every time I read Chris that I get the fearals and Goosey is watching Alex McGoo. I think that means like he gets the warm Tinglis. Yeah, how's McGoo doing? Because I want to get to the stars here, but how it is? You know, I've been told mcgo is one of the standouts this

year in the USFL. What do you make him a go? He's the MVP, the MVP and like even on like last week, he was I felt he was off last week. I think there are two interceptions and he's still or they still gutted a way to win, you know, And that's what good teams do. They figure out the way to win. And you know, to see how mobile he is and the sea, you know,

his arm, his like accuracy looks a little bit better. So I don't know if he's changed some things up and went on as mechanics because he can't really tell because he's making so many plays with his legs and you know, doing a little improv but I mean just to wash him play and as someone

like I've tracked McGoo for a little bit. He was with the Seahawks and for a minute and then bounced around and just to see his success in this league is' you know why I covered this league and why I love watching this league because you know, it's a guy who's been bounced around for a while, you know, didn't really have the most opportunities coming in as a seventh round pick, gets hurt last year, and now he's just battling it out

like he's fun twelve touchdowns this year, ran for three on the ground Taamo through fourteen in ten games. Magoo. Magoo's gonna surpass that air quote modern record in the ten game season right now. And it's just it's great to see. And he's you know, he's he's he's making a little bit of

money for himself. You know. Mike Mitchell talked about the availability of roster spots and whatnot, and maybe with all this gambling nonsense that came out today, we might see some uh, we might see some more roster spots open. But in the end, like Magoo is putting himself in a prime position for when a quarterback gets hurt, your second and your third string quarterback gets hurt and you call AJ mccaren and AJ is like, now, I'm not going to do that because I want to play. I'm not gonna sit on

the bench. On the bench, a guy like Alex Magoo is gonna come in and you know, you know, maybe stick around for an extra year or two. No, And we were talking about that, Mike Mitch. If you guys haven't listened to our big you know, we kind of did a three and a half hour like a kind of symposium here XFL retrospective and maybe we'll figure out how to do it with the USFL as well here when it routs. But you know, kind of what worked with didn't. I'll

be curious to see the number of players. Obviously, USFL last year had a tremendous number of players signed to the practice squads. You know, we couple made it come anthy turpin, others got hurt. But then you know this year, now you have this backlog in the XFL, there's only so many spots for players to get, and then there's going to be even less for the USFL. So I know all that gambling and everything coming out and

players getting suspended for that. You know, obviously you don't want anyone to lose their job, but there's only so many spots that they're going to be And I'm curious to see now with the XFL and the USFL, like we have this log jam of you know, we're trying to get through the pandemic canal. I'm like, how many players can get on here this one. Let's get the games. We'll vamp a little before we get out of here. Stars. You know again, when without scoring an offensive touchdown, I

felt bad. Paul Woods came down from Toronto, so I saw a cavalcade of CFL fans. They're watching McCleod that felt bad that they got the performance they did. Is McCloud cooling off? What do we make of this game? Because I know you were getting to the base with people about what was it that the brilliance the brilliance of Bart Andrews in the Stars and I and I and I get using the flashy terms and I don't and I don't knock um, you know, James for saying that, you know, like I

get it. It's a good it's a good comment. Um. But at the same time, it's like, you know, Mart, Mart's been on the offensive side of the ball for a while, you know, so it's like he's coached offense, he's coach quarterbacks. That's kind of his jam. Um. Before he came to the Stars, he was um in youth sports with I think it was the Ottawa Bigs or something like that. And um, you know, you just you saw what Case did last year. You saw what even Ryan did last year in his three games. There was success

with the offensive side of the ball. And I'm not and I've been very vocal about this, is they did not reload on that offensive line like they should have. Like, despite some woes I've seen on the Panthers, the offensive line is way better than last year. And you know, you can go from being an F to a D. That's still improvement. Last year, I felt like they were in that bat low B and now I feel like they're in a D as far as graades go. And it's just disappointing

the sea because Case is a good quarterback. Everyone agrees that Case is a good quarterback, but how many, like, how many penalties could you call? How many this? How many that he had almost. I know he had two touchdowns taken away on the ground, and then there was one pass he threw within you the five yard line that got called back. And it's like, come on, guys, like get it together. You know, they lost alexaking Bulu, they lost Gunner Vogel. Their center is still learning

the position. Perez sam Shady said he was a He said he was a tight end in college at one point a couple of years. So it's like, yeah, what do you expect. This is the third year he's playing the position. He's got to make calls. It's just not working out and he's getting and you know, we saw him he put an elbow brace on. You know, it could have been this funny bone, I think they said. But regardless, it's another hit that he's got to take. But

wasn't it wasn't the stars stand or wasn't he down? Feel two different I called back to touch. It was like two different plays, like almost back to back. It's like, what is happening here? Like, I just it feels and you were talking before the rowdiness, and it just feels like these teams are kind of undisciplined. I know that we obviously had the issues in the XFL as well with like the Vipers, but it felt like the

Stars were just kind of all over the place. Yeah, and and and then it goes back to my undisciplined like you know, these these quick triggers on the unnecessary or the unsportsmanlike conducts, and it's like some of them, I feel like you're just not warranted, like you know what I mean. Like I like I said, you you roll over some dude, you know for eleven yards and then you just drop the football and do that and you happen to hit them like they're calling flags on that. I'm like, come

on, bro, this is not taunting. And that dude that you know, granted the other team will take the yardage, but like deep davinside, you're like, that's you know what I mean. Like it just seems like every five minutes, especially for the Stars, like one step forward, fifteen yards back. Like it was just kind of like, you know, it's

like you're watching the basketball game the final two minutes. You got to block out three hours of your life, I will say, And it's probably have the CFL sometimes some of these end of game and the half it just takes forever and we're slowing it down. We're slowing it down, and we're reviewing, we're the time out that we're not using the time out, and then

we're then the announcements are complaining about it. It just it seems like it's kind of a comedy of error sometimes here and there, the end of the house in the game. Yeah, and I saw that a couple of times in the XFL, and it's just like bro like, especially that middle of the season for the Renegades, you know, a couple of those games. And then I think when the Renegades played the Brahmas, like it just felt like forever man um, you know, it's it's man like, come come

on, guys, like, let's get it together. And it kills them, and it kills the tempo of the game because you saw it at one point with the Breakers, they were driving downfield and then they had some you know, penalties that came up and I'm kind of just like, you know, McLeod is McCloud's moving this excuse me right now, like he's he's doing what he's paid to do. Let him spin, like what this game keep

going? And then it kills it and it's you know, third and twenty six and you're like, dude, just first and ten with a twenty yard game, Like, how are they on the twenty six instead of the forty five? I want to talk to McLeod here. We'll get to the glass game. I'm gonna go get my power cable here because my last cars on the day when they went out to the deck it is McLeod or is he

are we? Is this the Mark Hass curse can spoiler alert? I had McLeod on before before we went to San Antonio, so that he's lost, dropped two games in a row here now since talking on the Mark Hass pat talk to me about mccleoud. I'll be right back. So my thing when McLeod is I saw I saw some great throws from him one play when he rolled out, guys, really awesome, really awesome pro and they talked about

him. I'm so glad they talked about in the broadcast. Was him rolling out, there's nothing around, nothing there and he just threw the ball up and they got that DPI Like that's a pro quarterback move. Right. You're kind of seeing guys stepping step. You're gonna want to, you know, just give your guy a chance either cash football, go the flag. If

not, they punt. That obviously moved them along down the field. And then then like either a play or two later, he throws a strike d Anderson and the ball just like the ball goes through through his through his hands. And I counted Mac for MBT for about three miss throws, you know, like he you know, he wasn't perfect what quarterback is and whatnot, but the guy made some throws yesterday that should have been caught. There was a couple of drops. It was like, come on, man like,

get it together. He's been by far the most consistent quarterback as a passer throughout throughout the last couple of weeks. Um. You know, I've had them at one or two in my rankings for a while. I'd bumped them down the four this week is nature of the beast, you know, it's this is his first truly bad game. But overall I can contribute some of that to possibly fatigue man like playing like I said, twenty twenty twenty one games in twenty twenty two. It adds up. And then when they start

camp in March. You know, he obviously he was hurt, you know, not like a crazy injury. But still you know, to throw the football, all that goofy stuff. These these things happen. It's nothing indicative on this play. You know. I just think he's fatigued as well well,

and you know he it's tough. And that's the thing that people don't get about these spring leagues is you know, if you're going from the you know, the NFL or a prize of squad, you're going to the XFL, you're going to CFL coming in. Yeah, McCloud beat up and he plays a really physical style. I mean you saw him and yesterday where he was scrambling, it's kind of like tripped down and then came back up and took another big hit that you know, the play was already does like God,

it's just like another hit this guy's gonna take. And we saw it with Turpin like people you know, they talk about him in the USFL to the NFL, but like he played in Poland for a couple of games he played in the spring. This is on the twenty one he played in he played. I think he played with the first go Fighters of the IFL or and then a Rena league in twenty in the back half of twenty, goes to the Spring League, goes to poland goes to Fan Control Football. These

are out of borders, so excuse me. Guys goes to the USFL, then goes to the NFL and like, the dude's been playing for like two years in a row, man, Like how many how much rehab is he doing? How much? You know? It's it's and then he plays in a playoff game as well, So it's like, come on, bro, like some of these guys need a break, and like, I get it. It's it's you know, we say that for these athletes, yet we're grinding on, you know, two or three jobs to make our dreams come

true. So who are we to give give on solicit advice? But man, it's it's a it's a pride for some of these guys. Pam, and I think MBT Throws is right up in there. You know, the season ends in November and he's in training camp in March. Yeah, it's not it's it's I mean, it really is not sustainable. I mean you need to figure that out. And I don't know if it's better worse. I think, you know, for the players, I do think and we've

had comments here on the chat about the timeline. I think the timeline getting out in April with the XFL having a couple of months to just kind of reflect versus you saw how many of those guys were getting hurt coming out in July, and then go into the you know, training camps over the summer. It's a really hard turn out last game, and then I have a ramp before we get out of here. This competing against the the the Dallas, the Dallas Stars here playing against the Vegas gold Knights, losing, and

over time we have the Houston Gamblers over the Generals. This was a slower game. I know Anthony Miller is covering this for news UB. It wasn't the most of exciting matchups we had. I think it was Googler and the Joe Clatt there calling, So what did you make of the Generals and the Gamblers? So it seemed like they were a little bit more the Gamblers,

they were a little bit more conservative with Bahar coming off injury. I think Kenji has been one of the better stories of the league, not some you know, depending on who you are, a little bit of an unknown. In twenty twenty two, Clain Thorson's backup goes two and one and three starts. Obviously very successful so far this year. Played a little bit of a little bit more of checkdown, checkdown Charlie a little bit. He had a great pass to friend of my show, Quinn Sigg that got called back.

It was like twenty yards, but he saw a little bit of that, utilizing the full back a little bit more. Anytime you have Mark Thompson, your life becomes a lot easier. Guy ran in for another touchdown. What do you have for you? Twenty two carries almost side Yeah, you know, putting together justin hall. They hit him a lot on these screen routes and whatnot. He had one ball I think it was the Ratliffe Williams he

wishes he had. But he played, you know, no turnover free game and you know, for a young quarterback who this was his fifth starter of the year. So we're on eight starts since coming out of college. That's all you can ask for, you know. Um a little bit of a pro comp to Jordan Tayambo, he's uh, I don't know. Their ages are probably about the same age, but that same style of yeah, I

can run it, but don't you know, don't forget. I have a good armed But what I like about Bahar is that he's hitting the checkdowns more. And I didn't see that from Tayamu until later in the season, which is when he started opening up as a passer, utilizing his tight ends. And then you saw it last year. This season the XFL with alex Ellis, alex Ellis Ethan Wolf and a couple and Briley Moore all, you know, having a more sexy stat line. What is the deal with Kyle Aletta

and why is he not playing? It seems to be up to par I mean, I mean the guys got a weak arm to those outside those at the wide side of the field. I counted three out routes that he completely missed. He threw one or two into the you know, at the feet of the receiver. He's way more athletic than I thought he uh than I

thought he than I thought he was. A lot of people forget he played in two NFL games last year or excuse me, in twenty seventeen, and one of them he was lining up a wide receiver when ELI was on, when he was with Eli and the Giants. I'm I'm not sure really why there's some speculation on the twitter verse, but I mean it's all speculation. Obviously DeAndre Johnson was active. You know, Deandre's improved so much as a

passer this year, and obviously his athletic ability is unmatched. So it's really disappointing to not see him get those reps that and I don't know if DeAndre go the NFL. I don't think he will, but like, did not get those reps to keep improving and keep putting together the best opportunity for his

team. And that's what I feel like the general's need is DeAndre Johnson because then you have that three headed monster in the backfield with him, Victor and Williams, and you know, it's it's a hard thing to contend with, and it's just it's just disappointing. I mean, I don't you know, because I feel like as fans, like in media, we didn't get the best product that the generals could put out there. And that's the thing. You always want the best product for your for your fan, for your team,

and you know, for for the for the brand. What's the speculation on Twitter, like injury wise or politics wise or what's going on. I saw some things about injury and that. But at the same time, if you can't go, you can't go, like, you know, bring up pru Cup, you know, like pru Cup's more. Yeah, Frukey didn't look give from a nice up. Yeah, I mean he didn't play. He didn't play last this week. But I mean, like he's more athletics, so you could still bring in the read option game and you have to

regardless of his arm, you can. You have to respect his h his rushing ability. You know, like lau Leda had some great runs, but they're not designed, they're unbroken plays. You know, you have an eighteen yard run, he broke two tackles and then you know ran. He's not a slow guy. I think he ran high four sixes, low four sevens, not slow at all. But I mean, I mean, it just

depends on what you're trying to do with the offense. I thought they thought law Leda would kind of be that Luis Ferez, but I saw too much improvement from Johnson to kind of buy into that. I thought Johnson should be getting at least one ninety five percent of the snaps and you know, you use proke up because he's a little bigger kind of in that same mold on

the third down, the push plays and whatnot. But it's it's it's disappointing to not seeing Johnson out there, especially when you know they're they're all in the playoff race and he gives you the best opportunity to win last thing here. And then we get to any other thoughts Pat has before we get out of here. I was watching the game yesterday. I have gotten the emails, and they've probably ran this ad. I just I usually two now kind

of during the during the ad breaks, but I've gotten the emails. You know, real football or your real pro those real football, real fans or whatever, real fans whatever this you know the thing is. But I absolutely hate this. I astually. I took a screenshot of this the real fans, and this guy is going to be in the face of the real fan read anti you know figure, But but I hate this, Pat, I hate this. I think this is I've seen. Oh, this isn't a

shot the XFL. This is. I think this is absolutely shot the XFL. But I don't like it because the x you know, say what you want about either of these leagues. The XFL is out attending the the USFL by leaps and bounce here. But I hate this and I think that this helps, like you kind of sew those seeds of polarization, right. We see it even in the chatter on the show. What do you make of this? I mean we talked about it, right, like who threw the

first stone? We're at the hatfield to McCoy's uh, USFL absolutely like I have tracked this all. XFL has never thrown a stone. I don't think I care, I don't. I disagree. I think it goes back to Rod Woodson. I think our our comment, our comment from Ron Blindston. No, I think I think the comment. I think the first thing ever was the week of the x the USML kickoff, the interviewed Darryl Johnston and he said, we have a slate that our TV slate is better than anything

the XFL will put on the air in terms of broadcast windows. I believe that's the first thing. And if you want to credit Rob Winson's comment on the mark cast following that, I don't think we're not important. I don't well, I mean, I mean you're important to the Twitter verse, right like the people who harass us in our d ms and uh, it's not. Once again, guys, it's not hard. Like I don't want to get too edgy here, but it's not hard to figure out things, especially

when you have a little bit of a background. So, like I said, Bama boy got real quiet after we call him out. Um, but yeah, it's weird right. Um. But on the flip side, though, like I'm a little disappointed Daryl Johnson because what was he doing in twenty twenty with the XFL Yeah he was? And who was he with? Uh? He was with the Dallas right yeah? And who whoo? Who's this boy? Now you're asking me two of the questions big, big, big

game Bob Anthony Miller's yeah. So that that that kind of shade to me is like I don't want to do to remember where he came from because I think he was a part of the AAF as well. Um, you know, but it's kind of like come on, dog like step you know, step it up. And now it's like, you know, you got Rod saying that stuff, which I wouldn't up said, you know, not that

like the most like boiled back. But my thing is is coming from my background when I deal with clients and they're more polarizing, and they say, I don't know why I need to hire you and your guys, and I'm like, well, ma'am, well sir, you alienate fifty percent of this country. Regardless of what you're saying is true, right, wrong or indifferent. You just said that fifty percent of this country or this you know market is dumb and you don't they don't and I don't agree with you, so

you're not with me, you're against me. I think it's the same mentality. When you do this stuff, you alienate an x amount of percentage, no matter if it's the XFL or the USFL doing it. You alien out, alienate a fifty percent of whoever or certain percentage of whoever. And to me, that's just a bad look. And I will never forget that New Orleans guy who got barrage on Twitter. He's just like, oh, there's

a New Orleans team, why don't they play in New Orleans? And they're like, because you don't know this and you don't follow this, and you're you're not about it. And this dude's like some random guy who's probably an accountant that's dealing with, you know, during taxis and dealing with you know, millions of dollars and it's like, yes, sorry, I'm not on Twitter like perusing about why the Breakers don't play in New Orleans. I have

children. It's bowling. I just I will say because the Rod Woodson quote was if people are when we when we went down to the air zone the showcase, it was Matt Lyons, myself, Evan and Branding over with the Comeback Period show and we went down we interviewed back to us there. Woodson was there. We talked with the Rust Brandon off camera. I'm trying to think of who other the coaches we had like five of them. The videos on there if you go on the YouTube channel, the videos on there.

But yeah, we were asking. I think we asked like what, Rod, you know, how are you going to attract you know, all these players are going to the USFL, Malik, are you worried about talent depth? I think he was like, well, like, we're gonna care more about our players than the USFL. And it's one of those things. I worked in journalism for years, I worked in TV, and I'm like,

that is a good sound bite. That is a really good sound like I wouldn't I wouldn't up said, you know, the thing is too is like, oh, you know food, Like you get some of these XFL guys are like foo foo the USFL, and I'm like, bro, you took like eighty players from that, and like some of those eighty players were some of the best, like players in your league. Dude, like chill out, you know. And then it's like on the flip side, you get

a lot of these USFL guys. Was like, oh, we don't need Jordan talm And I was like, I mean, I mean everyone could use from Jordan Tamu. Everyone could have the flip side too, of like the Kyle Solder hate. And then you know he's back in Birmingham and everyone's like he knows where he belongs. And I'm like, bro Kyl's just trying to freaking hang out with his girlfriend more Man and now, you know, getting an extra thirty grand to do it. You know, he's having a good

time. He's got almost two million dollars in income from professional football. He's he's chilling right now. Dude. I do I do? Where is it I do? And then we have a good things here, We'll get out of here. I do concur with this rock and roll alien but brought to the side official statement. You know, Fox put real money into you, I do. I mean, you know, coaches comments off the cuff to

you know, all Douce have writers than myself. And at the end of the last showcase, at the end of horrendous two months, I don't think it's kind of whatever that way, you know too, I get I to me that the first shot was that Darrell Johnson thing. That is, I

do believe I've tracked it back that far. I mean, and and that's the thing people are always gonna like, for example, like you and I I feel like a pretty level headed human beings and we disagree on this right like like you know, like people are only gonna know what they want to know, what fits in their fits in their thing. Now, like you've educated me on this, like the Daryl Johnson thing, because I know he said some things, but you know, like now, now does that change

my point of view on it? Like, Okay, I consider myself a pretty analytical and rational human being. I'm going, you know, to take that information and make a new opinion possibly right. Someone else does not want to do that, you know, They're just looking at this, you know, like because it's it's gone back so so far, it's really not in in the ope of reality, in the scope of Twitter, that's a lot of reach, that's a lot of scrolling you gotta do to get back to

those sound bites right in those in those tweets. And it's like, man, just I don't want to come off you know, these eight hundred people's jobs or around and like to me and I don't want to I don't. I've said this before. It's like, you gotta got like Vince Young, right, for example, And Vince Young is you know, going on a little bit of a journey here, but stay with me. You gotta gota

like Vince Young. Vince Young, it was football or bust for a guy like that, right, how many guys you know, Yeah, they might have had the luxury of going to some great colleges and whatnot, but did they actually go to those great colleges? Did they actually go to communications class? For a lot of these players, like this is it? You know, so they need to not only build their resume as players, but they also got builded as coaches and whatnot. And you know this might be a

negative sound by the vall football players are dumb jocks. Well you know what, man, if if you know if my whole thing was football and whatnot, and I didn't like communications class or business class, and this is all I want to do, whether it be playing or coaching. I need these things to work out. No, I get it here, Chris says, overall, it's a big nephew burger. Um, just all this, yes, huh agree, I mean it's it's it's a ridiculous argument that really we're

only catering to about what like eighty four people on Twitter? Yeah. Uh this last year, I gotta I got that someone working at the front of my house. I gotta go check in with here. I last think Chris has freedom. You picked the uslduh the Philadelphia Stars. It is the team of the Markast. I've had kids cookers on the podcast, I have the jersey, I've had the players last year on and we're going back with Brian Scott, Matt Mangel and all that stuff there. Philadelphia Stars are the team

of the Mark Hast. Pat anything else before we get out of here. Uh. Um. You know I'm a shill for myself. Guys. If you if you want to send me any more good comments, bad comments more Aline Assman hit me up on you know Twitter by Pat Raffino. YouTube is analyzed and educate. Um, you know, always always good for a good you know conversation. If you're gonna harass me, I'm just gonna, you know, background check you. But that's a different I didn't call you from

one of my Bernard numbers. That would be good. The thing I just tweeted out the CFL preseason game this afternoon is gonna be pushed back half an hour, but I am saying, like, check this out. I'm really excited. Pat, I have a DMS right now going in on that. It's gonna make you. You're gonna get the gooses and fields or whatever Chris was getting earlier. You get all of that when you see many dms coming. Check out the CFL. We're gonna have lots of stuff with that,

like and subscribe. We've got you know, USFL this weekend figuring out all that stuff. But should have some good shows coming up and some good guests. So appreciate it. Pat, I appreciate everyone. A little rocky to start, but we got through it all and that we'll see you guys next time. Take care of everyone, like and subscribe