Well, hopefully we got it there. My headphones started tweaking out there I was here and echoing on everything. So there we go. Hopefully this is going happy Marcust Monday. Here a disappointing times here, disappointing times across the NFL, here, across the CFL, across the NHL, just really horrible. No good guys. How are we doing today? Jason Emon? I'm doing good read you know, besides these guys right behind me, I mean, don't ask me about them, but my Red Wings are doing good in
the NHL, and I think they're playing your crack in tomorrow night. They are. And you have a Ding Dong Daniel Sprung very sad. Yeah, we have Burgkowski's injured, we have Tannas like this is really a crack and they're off to kind of the worst drive you can imagine. Evan, how are you doing today? Yeah? Not too bad? You know, said like, can't partake in any of your you know, hockey stuff is I don't really follow the NHL. But other than that, no, I'm doing
well. Yeah. I mean, only three games to talk about this week on the CFL slate, so we might have to expand our knowledge on each game a bit to try and get to an hour, but I'm sure we'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll go. Thanks for early today, I appreciate it. I gotta go work, yeah, but we mind it hit the whole hour. I gotta go be a tan at the Arbory, then filming some interviews. I will say, though, guys, the important thing, unlike our BC allions here over the weekend is is we're showing up today.
We showed up here week twenty in a row. So more than we can say about the lions singing on the stamps over the weekend, we'll get to that interesting slay the games here, playoff things, finalized everything, Jason, I guess the first talking point here Hodge put out the tweet playoff standings the exact same is last year. Did we do we waste the last twenty weeks in our lives? What are we doing? Jason? Well, I mean yes, it ended up being the exact same standings as last year.
But I did feel like this year has been more exciting. I feel like we've had, you know, a lot more surprising results. And I think the biggest thing and I think this is what Farhan was saying weeks ago when we had him on the show, that Winnipeg got closer to the rest of the league and it feels like they're not this insurmountable team that they wore the last couple of years. So I mean, I think that's what's different this year. But at the end of the day, the standings did not change,
you know, because that's the thing. You know, we started out the season and we're really excited and even get the standings up here so I can look at it. But you know, we kind of get excited and we romanticize about all these different things happening, and then to have it, you know, it's disappointing. Like I said, I think, especially like with the Lions and things, it felt like there was a little bit of
complacency. On Friday night, they're like, well, you know, I mean, like Winnipeg's not gonna win or they're not going to lose, and we did Like to me, I don't know if to me it feels like we're accepting our lot in life. Here is a little bit less of hey, maybe we could actually make a run of this. Evan, what did you make here? Back to back year, same standings here coming into the playoffs. I mean, to be honest, it doesn't surprise me. Just
with the way the CFL is structured. I feel like, you know, the teams that are at the top state at the top for a while and kind of dominate, and then the teams who you know, are towards the bottom, maybe they have more losses. Those teams tend to struggle for longer, which is very interesting. I think I said something yesterday. You know, given that there's only nine teams in this league, it's fascinating that, you know, teams seem to repeat some of the same mistakes again. And
I'm not calling anybody out, but like it. You know, sometimes I'm like, well, if you're playing a team, you know, three times in a season, you'd think that, you know, you'd be able to make adjustments and you know, get a win. But again, some of these teams just end up with these, you know, quite frankly horrendous streaks. And again, you think in a nine team league that wouldn't really be
a problem because you have so many chances to redeem yourself. But you know, you could argue that maybe because there is only nine teams and there's not you know, the same variety I guess that you get in the league like the NFL, you know that that's that would explain, you know why some of these teams, you know, go on such long losing streaks and can never seem to, you know, turn the ship around even when everything looks
to be pointing in the right direction. I we intended to think, Yeah, the fact that the CFL that you had three teams with I think it was six plus game home losing streaks going into the season with the Riders and the Red Blacks and then obviously the Elks really remarkable kind of all this. But I don't know, Like I said, I felt like coming down the stretch here, I don't know, and we'll get into the BC Lions game, and it felt a little bit more like, well, we're just happy
with second place. We'll get to the playoffs and I don't I'll talk more about it, but I don't think that's a great way to build a fan base and have like a big blackout night and let's get everyone to the stadium and it let's completely delay and egg after we just you know, we didn't lay an egg against Winnipeg, you know, heartbreaking loss here, it's the last home game of the season save for the playoffs, and kind of kind of said that with Jason and the general thoughts before we get into this.
Yeah, like next I don't know, we might need to get a guess or something next week because like we're get ahead here and none of these games oither next week now like this week twenty one. Here, Jason, we'll talk offline, but that could be a little bit scary of recap next week. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I guess the only thing that it's really notable about next week's games is that Toronto could be tying the CFL record for best record in a regular seat. But other than that, I
mean, it's just a wasteland of games next week. So yeah, like you said, we might have to have someone on for that. Yeah. I have a lot to say about that argus too. It's like we only care about one and oh, but then we definitely want to hit every single record we can and every single like legacy, like, but we're still we only want to go one and oh. But it seemed like there was a lot of Okay, let's get make sure this guy gets a thousand rushing yards.
Again, Let's make sure this person gets reception, So we'll get into all that. I have less thoughts about this Winnipeg Edmonton game. I'll atassa Jason first on this Winnipeg forty burger. Here I hear notes being pulled out here. That's good winnifeg here the Edmonton what do we make of this? You know, hoping that Edmonton can make a game and kind of really really
fall off the clipper at the end. Yeah, not too many positives from this game for Edmonton, but I will say one right off the bat, they had their first return touchdown since twenty fifteen in this game, which is just, you know, an unbelievable stat But congratulations to Deontes Alexander for bringing one back for Edmonton finally. But other than that, I mean Winnipeg jumped on them right at the beginning of the game. Winnipeg went right down and
scored the first touchdown of the game, make it seven to nothing. Then Jackson je cooed had a strip sack on tray board a return for a touchdown by Adam big Hill was fourteen to nothing. Edmonton made it fourteen to ten, but that's as close as it got. And ultimately, you know, Winnipeg was the better team and they played to win despite having nothing to play
for with BC's loss on Friday night. Yeah, imagine that. Like, you know, that's the thing like with some of these teams, Like it's just automatic in here like BC, Like, well, no, like we don't really have a lot to play for. We don't really know, like whinn the Peg, don't care whenni peg comes out, They'll still put that before you burg around you did you Brown get some playing time as well here?
Like to me, that's kind of the difference of all this is, Hey, you know what, right, last home game except for the playoffs here right, because they're on the road, next break whatever, whatever, the last schedule is Evan, what did you make of this ELX you're coming in? Yeah, So a couple of things. First of all, yeah, Deontes Alexander wanted to talk about him briefly. Didn't actually know he was on the Elks, but previously in the USFL with the Houston Gamblers, I
believe, a very interesting prospect. Came from Division three Franklin College and was with the Seahawks and Lions at one point. So definitely an interesting guy that you know. When I heard Deontes Alexander. I said, oh, you know, that sounds awfully familiar. So did my Google search and then yep, sure enough it was the guy that I was thinking about. So yeah, good for him. The fact that the Elks haven't had a return touchdown
since twenty fifteen. Again, you'd think with all these eighteen game seasons and you know, years of you know, building and whatever like, you'd think that there maybe would have happened sooner. But anyway, another one that I wanted to point out Manny Arsono with a seventy seven seventy seven yard catch and run I think last week it was he set He's now fourth all time in terms of like streaks with a game like a catch in each game. So
again, congratulations to him for that. Really one of the all time greats, you know, great to see, you know, his career still going. And then yeah, on the Winnipeg side, really the only thing that I had to point out here was Drew Brown. We had talked about Drew Brown briefly. I think he played briefly. Maybe it's been a couple of months now, I think, but he came in Zach went down, right.
Wasn't that the game when Zach went down whenever. Whenever that was, so I think that was you know, a little less than two months ago something like that. Yeah, anyways, Drew Brown. You know, so there's a couple guys that I'm looking at. And I bring this up because now we're pretty much at the end of you know, well, some teams like Edmonton, you know, their season's done, so skatcho and their seasons
done. We'll get into that. But you know, I bring that up because there's some guys in this league, you know, some quarterbacks that are only backups that I feel like could start. Dane Evans was a name, you know that's been floated around. I was talking to Derek Dennis this weekend and you know, we had a nice chat about Dane Evans and you know, he came off the bench you know, in BC, and we can
get to that too. But Drew Brown, I feel like, is a guy where he's not brought up enough in those discussions in terms of you know, possible starting caliber quarterbacks. Because in this game, I mean completed every pass ninety four yards, two touchdowns. I mean to be honest, if you weren't paying attention to that game closely, you might have not known that Drew Brown was even in, you would have just thought it was Kolaro's and
wouldn't have batter an. I. So Drew Brown, I definitely feel like, you know, deserves this credit, deserves some recognition, has definitely developed in this league, I think, and excited to see where he can go from this point forward. Hey, Jason, I mean we talked about this a lot, with the argus like, would you not have just given Drew Brown the game here? I mean, I know exactly, I mean they kind of split more or less, But would you have I mean, what's
a harm here? What do you whatre you risking with Klara's Yeah exactly, I mean, yeah, I would have done them done that. I would have just gave Drew Brown the entire game to play, because, like you said, they have nothing to play for standings wise. And Klari's is a guy that the last couple of years he's been able to stay relatively healthy, but throughout the course of his career he's had a lot of injury issues.
So why, you know, leave him vulnerable to that? You know, I think it was pretty questionable in hindsight for Winnipeg, but he got out of this game unscathed, and I doubt we'll see him next week. I thought tweet come out talking and Kolaros and during the game, and how basically like Winnipeg. It's kind of like the Brock pretty argument in the NFL right now, like how good this Brock and you got all the debo and Christian Like if you put like Cody Ferjardo in the Winnipeg Blue Bomber system, is
he like is Zach? Basically the argument was like, he's an above average quarterback that's just surrounded by a lot of good talent in the league defense, And it's basically like the Cody Fijardo because you can swap out Jason. What do you make of that? Then we'll get Evans thoughts, I don't agree with that. I think that Claris is a special quarterback in this league and
he was just waiting for this right opportunity for everything to click. I mean, we saw years ago in Hamilton. There was one year that I believe it was twenty fifteen that they started nine and one and he was the runaway MVP, twenty five touchdowns, ten picks, like best player in the league by far, and then he tore his ACL and you know, we've seen him play at a high level in other places in the CFL, So I mean, I don't agree with that. I think that not every quarterback could
have done what Zach's done in Winnipeg. And I mean, at the end of the day, I think think one thing that separates Zach Claris is his football intelligence and just the general feel he has for the game. I don't think you can replicate that with a guy like Cody Fajardo for example. Yeah, I really don't like that argument. I've been this whole rock pretty thing and we get a lot of it just with Seattle and like Sanford. You know, we just it ends up being in the news cycle here at least
a lot. And you know, I, if anything, I think it's it's interesting that, you know, with with Drew Brees and Sean Payton here and obviously with Brady and militant, like some of these coaches are almost getting exposed after the back now like well, no, this wasn't assistant quarterback, this was kind of in the lead talent and obviously Shanahan all that, but
no, I mean I think Kolaro's obviously there's two sides to it. It's a really good fit there as well, but you need to have some I mean, he's had how many years now has he been able to replicate this? Evan, what do you make of that? Yeah? I mean, look, I feel like if you put another quarterback there, you know, it's not going to have the same results, you know, someone like even outside of Cody Fajardo, there's a multitude of options. I just don't think
it's the same. I think that a team like Winnipeg, you know, is good at building quarterbacks in house and developing them so that you know, some people might say that's also misleading because then those quarterbacks could go to another team and not perform well. But I don't know. I mean, you know, I look at Zach Kolearos and we all know what he's capable of. Just talked about Drew Brown, you know, personally, I feel like he could start a couple of games and you know, this league and be
fine. Dakota preu Cop is another one that they have who came back to Canada after he tried, you know, coming down to the US and playing in the USFL with the New Jersey Generals. So you know, they've definitely given some guys some opportunities, you know, And yeah, I mean it's you know, it's one of those arguments that I mean, you hear about
it a lot. Yeah, I read you brought up a good example, like if you want to compare it to the NFL level, A lot of people are saying, well, you know, if you take Brock Purdy out of San Francisco, you know, and put him in, you know, put them on another team or you know, somebody else, you bring in another quarterback to San Francisco, they had the same results. I'm not so
sure about that, you know. I think people just you know, they want to say that to you know, just feel more comfortable to try and you know, even the talent plane or whatever you want to call it. But yeah, realistically, I don't know. I feel like, you know, Brock Purdy he might not be completely polished, but he he could still go to a multitude of teams I think and perform at a high level, like it's not a fluke. And you could say the same about certain situations
here in the CFL. Yeah, I mean, scouts the whiff all the time. I mean, even look at that Tyson kid that was playing for the Bears over the weekend, right, and here's someone undrafted and he's coming up there and playing. And not that the Raiders are much to beat right now, but any other thoughts on this game? Any other thoughts on the Elks? Right? They they have one more game, so they're done.
Winnipeg's going into Calgary, Hamilton in Montreal and then trying to the way anything else kind of bow tie and will probably do like a playoff, you know whatever and recap and all that. But any other thoughts kind of bow tie the Elk season will go? Jason First, Yeah, I mean for the Elks, I mean, ultimately, they finished with the exact same record as they did last season, four and fourteen, so say what you will about
that. And for Winnipeg, Nick Dempsky crosses the one thousand yard threshold for the first time in his career, so congratulations to him. Yeah, for whatever reason, four and fourteen for the Ox this year feels tremendously better than four and fourteen for the Ox last year. Evan, any other bow type thoughts on the Elk season. I don't know, you know, I don't I don't think so. I just look, I'm sure there'll probably be some
things, you know, in the off season. We have to wait for a lot of these situations to pan out, right, And you could say the same, like same about Saskatchewan, right, Like I'm not you know, that's I guess the next game we have to get to. No need to really you know, tear that apart too much until you know, things start happening. But yeah, you know El's Look, I'm happy the Elks
in the corner. I think that's just a nice like considering they started, you know, oh to nine or whatever, and they were able to kind of finish, you know, with a decent I guess four and five would that be if I can do math properly. You know, the fact that they were able to at least turn their season around to make things competitive,
I like that a lot. So yeah, yeah, Tim, Tim chiming in and yeah we tied him in that first kick return for that Channa say, which, like I said, for all those uh when your when your grocery points and all those other things, and especially like you know, it's always I always got to laugh at all that stuff. Yeah, Tim, But maybe we'll get Tim on next week. Maybe Tim can serve fill some of this Ara here. We got the interesting week here going into week twenty
one. All right, this is interesting and so normally my saturdays are occupied by the wife, but she decided to go pumpkin picking with her friends at nine thirty in the morning, and so I ended up sitting around and was watching Moneyball for a while, and then I said, oh, this game started, I'm gonna sit on my CFL Plus and watch that. This was a fascinating game. I have lots of thoughts about this game, management and
Saskatchewan completely the following apart in Toronto, and kind of everything else. Jason, first off, for you, like what what was this game? Like, we'll get the Calgary of like Saskatchewan is literally playing for their lives here, showed up, really showed up on fire at the beginning. What did you make? Yeah, that's that's My first impression was that. Wow. So Skatchwan came out of the gates hot. They felt like they really wanted
to win. It looked like their best effort in weeks. But ultimately, you know, they just fell apart right at the end. And like I was about to say, like Calgary wins this weekend, Saskatchwan wins this weekend. That was the best possible outcome for the CFL, and then you still had a meaningful game next week with Calgary. But Saskatchwan blows it at the end to Cameron Dukes and at the end of the day they have nobody to blame but themselves for the last seven games of their season. Yeah, I
hate sweet this out. I said that Saskatchwan's early pointing out of their minds dominated the must Wing game against Toronto. Sam Peters pants the BC lines in the must Wing game. Imagine if either of these teams, like it's like where we're and there's the same thing with Calgary and fan like where you can play must win games before they're actually must win at the end of the season here and like you said, still wasn't enough to kind of get get the
job done. But Evan, I remember, because I think you must have been going to one of the games, like you know, you were watching, and I know you said, like, hey, I didn't have service, Like how the hell did the Riders lose this game? Yeah, I mean you know I watched. I watched most of this game, you know, up until the middle of the third quarter, So I kind of I think I stopped watching right when cameraon Dukes came in, but you know,
obviously good to see him get some work in. Got to point that out,
of course. But besides that, yeah, this, I mean, that's heartbreaking, you know, to lose a game like that at home, you know, in front of your home crowd, and especially I think what's really what really makes this significantly worse is the fact that Saskatchewan had this same scenario happened to him last season, where the season ends at the beginning of September and they just don't win after that when you need to again, when you need to win, like I was saying, you know, for weeks
back in you know, like August and even July again once when Saskatchewan was still building momentum, that this team had a lot of talent, and I believed in that playoff race because I figured those last two spots it looked like it was gonna be between Saskatchewan and Calgary. You know, of course it was. I thought Saskatchewan you know, had the advantage. I thought that they would be able to overcome you know, last year's late season struggles.
But unfortunately, they were unable to do that. And I'm sitting here, I'm very surprised. I think more than anything that that team, you know, with all the stuff that they had going on, and like it just felt like they had they had enough talent to get it done. I don't know. Look, I'm not going to try and do so many comparisons. I don't know if they have I don't know if they have more talent than Calgary maybe in certain areas whatever. I'm not breaking all that down right now.
That would be something Jason could do on his channel. But you know, I just I don't know, Like I've watched this game, and you know that's sadly, you know, that's a game where uh, you know, I don't know, like that really kind of shakes up possibly what the future of maybe the franchise looks like in Saskatchewan. You know, you have to start asking about, you know, possible changes and things like that. I mean, being you know, a combined I think it was oh to
thirteen and back to back seasons after September fourth or something like that. Again, just another one of those stats where you just kind of, you know, you you want to look away, like that doesn't it just doesn't seem right, and I feel really bad, you know, for all the Rider fans. I know, that's one of the you know, better fan bases in the league out there in Regina, you know, definitely a very unique spot. I would say, doesn't get talked about enough. So you know,
hats off to everybody there. But yeah, you know, I wasn't even I'm not really a fan of his team, but even I was disappointed because I know, you know, when you lose a game like that, you know that that's the one that you think about, you know, because you had I mean, obviously they've been on a bit of a slide now,
but that's not something that you come back from so easily. And I think it's more than anything, I think it's fascinating how Calgary, despite everything being against them, everything working against them, everything looking like you know, this was the end, they're still in it. And I think all the players, you know, all the players were kind of saying and thinking the same thing, like, well, we're still here, you know, we still had a chance, give us a chance. And they you know,
they've somehow once again made the playoffs. And again that's the other thing about having a nine team league, right, Like, it's a bit easier to kind of keep those streaks live even in a year where again like this year, I thought there was no chance. I thought Saskatchewan could lose again. I thought they were gonna they could lose, you know, six of the last seven games and still you know, find a way. But now they didn't. And that's that's something again that's gonna sting for a long time.
Yeah. Eighteen eighteen Conteger the postseason appearances, congratulations friend of the show, Ryan Valentine that he tweeted out, yet they're old enough to vote now cl congression because this was just remarkable. And we had on Jamie and I right last week because I said I got it, you know with the green zone up there, and I love higiment. I mean the other thing, I really did have the best time up there for the Great Cup, like really
delightful, beautiful, beautiful. We walked in the park with Rob Vanstone around the lake, I mean, really tremendous up there. Fan base before the Riders. But he said, like if they lose, you know, people don't even want them to even have the opportunity to be in the playoffs.
The fan base wants them to lose. And I keep checking my twitter, he says, you know, come Monday morning, like when it's official that they're not in, Like heads are gonna roll there, and I imagine, like I just I don't know how you can go oh of seven the last two years, like Evan said here following September and like that whole regime is
gone. I mean, this is this is crazy, and I think wholesale changes are coming there Jason, like Rod Peterson had tweeted that over the weekend as well, like obviously heat long history with the Riders, you know this great franchise and where it's at right now, what do you make of just kind of they downfall the Riders. Well, the first thing you look at is the attendance. I mean this was the worst attendant game in Regina,
I believe they said, since two thousand and six. So that is very alarming, and it shows you that a lot of these fans have tuned out from this team with what they've gone through the last couple of years. So I think that is very concerning. I think we're bound to see, you know, a big house cleaning like we saw in Edmonton a few years ago when they got rid of the president, the GM and the head coach.
So I mean I expect that to happen in Regina. I don't think that any of those guys survive, maybe the president of anything, but I think O Day and Craig Dickinson are out as the GM and the head coach in Regina, and I think at the end of the day, yeah, I don't think that you can go forward with those guys in that leadership group there
in Regina. I did like how it came out afterwards because they were doing the clean out the Locker day and it was Brittain Gray that does the show with Jamie and they're like, but Trevor harrisond like, well, I was going to be ready to go in the playoffs, Like I was going to be ready like for what, Like, I mean, it's great, Like I don't think that Trevor Harris comes in there and lights the world up fire
either. I mean, to me, there was kind of a fundamental just something wrong with this team here and I mean Doll Gallas doing find him. Mean, he's throwing you know, he had the two picks, you know, four twenty nine here and me he's throwing the ball over the field. Like, I don't know if you bring in Trevor Harris like Evan if you know, let's say they eke in here and Trevor Harris comes in, Like, does that make any difference at all? Yeah, I don't know.
It's an interesting question. I feel like you almost can't answer it because Trevor Harris didn't play for long enough this season with the Riders. Like, to be honest, look, if you want to take away some pausitives from this game, if you're a Rider's fin dog, gall looked pretty good. I understand that. You know, he kind of he had the interception at the end of the game that kind of, you know, really put things away,
and I wouldn't count that as good. But you know, other than that, I mean, look, he you know, spread the ball around. He got Samuel Almoss over a thousand yards on the season, I believe, who had a great game. Also shout out to sam Sean Bayin had another nice game too. He was on like a practice roster last year, so that was actually a pretty good I guess, Jim, you could say
that Saskatchewan was able to capitalize on anyway. Uh. Yeah, Jake Dolegala, I feel like, you know, there is promise with him moving forward and regardless of you know who's there next year, you know, if he stays around or whatever. I feel like, you know, he had an opportunity this season to prove himself. And you know, while he did not win this game, which would have been you know, a significant moment, and we always use the term quote unquote legacy game, which you know,
this could have been one form. I mean, four hundred and twenty nine passing yards was pretty impressive. But yeah, I mean, you know, Jake Dolegala, you have something there, you know, I don't know,
again, there's so many questions about the future here. I feel like there's almost more qui questions now in Saskatchewan then maybe there is an Edmonton just because you know, they again they've produced the same result in back to back seasons and they had so much like it felt like they changed a lot of things significantly this offseason to make sure that that wouldn't happen again. But they're just kind of, you know, right back where they were, and again,
that's extremely unfortunate. I you know, it's a tough business. You know, it's a winning business. It's really what it is. There's no denying that. So yeah, you know, it's just it's it's one of those things. But there are like there are pause, there's again for Saskatchewan. I mean again, from the player's standpoint, I thought Jareed Stearns was a really good pick up mid season. You know, I've sung his praises.
Definitely somebody that I think should have been playing pro football sooner, you know, possibly in the XFL. And then you know, on the Toronto side of things, cause I mean we've been talking about Saskatchewan for so long and just kind of how this was a fallout for them. I got to give some credit to Toronto here. I mean again, this team is so deep, you know, like they can pull anybody and still you know, have a chance. And that's why, that's why I'm very confused why Chad Kelly
was in the game for as long as he was. I got to talk about that first, and I know, I know you feel a certain way about that read, but man like, and I know, look, we brought it up a bit with Kolaros too, like he you know, maybe could have rowed that one out, and Drew Brown was obviously fine to just you know, have his uh, have his moment, But man like, I think with Chad Kelly, it just felt so much worse because you know, you saw him getting hit, like they you know, benched RT well
I shouldn't say bench, but they rested a couple I think of their starting lineman. And you know, you saw Kelly start taking some hits out there, and there was one where, you know, in that third quarter where like they literally had to bring Dukes in at that point just because you know, he was kind of hobbling off the field. And I'm sitting there like, geez, I mean, this is just so like it makes me angry when I'm sitting there watching that because it just feels so preventable. And look,
I understand, Look Ryan did what. He's a great coach. I'm sure he has his reasons for it. Maybe I don't agree with it, but you know I that's again, that's above me, above my pay grades. So yeah, look, I don't know why Chad Kelly was in the game as long as he was. I thought he had a respectable performance regardless,
and then Cam Duke's came in and finished everything out. But like with the r goes Man, it just it just feels like every name you know, at least every time that they bench again not bench rest some of their starters, it just feels like there's another name to talk about because they're so deep. Like this week, i'd say, you know, give credit to uh, hopefully I'll butcher this name. But Daniel Adebaboye, man like I just you know, just comes out there and one hundred and nine carries on
nine yards, ripped off that really big. I believe it was sixty yard run. It looks like it was fifty nine there based on a long but yeah, I mean guys like that again, someone that you just don't discuss all season, and then he comes into an elimination game for one of the teams and you know, almost puts them to bed. And then I think another player that they had that was was helpful in this game. If I can find the name Mason Pierce from the Colorado School of Mines Division two,
who had the game sealing interception on Jake Dolagala. He was somebody that I think is I think he's a rookie. I could be wrong, but you know, he came in the season again, somebody that they wanted to develop. I don't know how many reps he's had, but it seemed like he was relatively new came in there and yeah, you know, won the game for Toronto and sent you know, sent in Saskatchewan home, well even though they were at home. But you know what I mean. So yeah,
I mean again Toronto, just incredible depth. I mean, you know, when it comes to someone like me who you know does a lot of scouting and personnel work, it really really speaks volumes when your entire second team unit or whatever you want to call it can come into a game and pretty much replace all the starters no problem. Like again, you could barely tell the
difference in production between again like Duke's and Kelly. You know some of the running backs, even some of the receivers who maybe we don't talk about enough who I think some of them, I know Alet in terms again like the thousand yard milestones, I don't really track those. I think Alete went over a thousand and then they pulled Yeah they pulled them right after that. Yeah, and then I think one of the receivers maybe went over one thousand too.
But yeah, anyway, again, just great depth by Toronto. Demonstrated again, if you're Toronto, I think you feel confident, like even if you were to suffer a significant injury. You know, at some point in the playoffs, you know, you would at least be able to replicate something,
you know in a game. I feel good about that. Again, we'll in terms of I don't want to get into you know, Great Cup matchups quite yet, you know, in my opinions exactly, I you know, look, I've been talking to some people, including yourself, read about that and how I feel, but I won't get into that quite yet, although I will say that that might play a role if you want to, you know, pick Toronto and you feel good about that having that depth.
So yeah, that's that's where I'm out on that game. I think I will say just and I'll get to the game. I'm hearing like big news coming out Great Cup week. I don't have anyone else's hearing that. I saw a couple of people talking about that, and they got Randy's press conference moved up to Tuesday, and they're trying to separate that from the actual game of Great Cup. So I don't know if like Brandy's going to come out
and drop some bombshells on on that week of the Great Cup. I will say, we were talking we have our well, we have a venue secured for our great Cup show. That should be excited. But I'm working. I'm working with one of the teams to see if we can situate it more in kind of the fans section. They're the Great Cup activities. But otherwise we have a great backup plan and we'll announce all that because I'm excited for
that, and we'll certainly have a lot of that kind of stuff. And I appreciate Jason as well putting together and give me advice about, Okay, which ones work or which one's done, like calling these places like hey, you know, who are you? Like, Okay, we're from Seattle. Like we talked about the CFL, Like no, we don't really can't really pay to use anything like more just kind of can we be whatever anyway, So that should be good. So yeah, so I can subscribe. Should
be a big show there. We had like fifteen thousand views last year for Beat the Beat the CFL stream last year for the for the pre show, so hopefully we'll do that. But talking the game, I just yeah, Saskatchewan totally checked out last home game Saturday afternoon. You know, there was all this made about, Okay, the Sunday night games and we hate that and people traveling like no excuses here. Last home game of the season,
no one showed up. We talked about that in terms of the Chack Kelly thing, and I hit tweeted that because I'm watching the game and Glenn and Rod friend of the show, Rod Smith, they're talking like going in to break and they're like, well, just there's no way Chack Kelly plays the second half, and I say, is coaching mount practice if this guy comes
out of place. They tried chack Kelly out again of the third quarter, and like Evan said, it was only until he got that you know, he's like limping off the field and it's like, okay, let's pull Chatick.
I don't. And they were incredulous about that, and I think Rod, like, to me, Rod's are pretty like PG kind of like, hey, okay, you know, I kind of total league line here, and like I'll talk a little bit like when he was on the show, he was talking about how he thought it was a mistake that Toronto and Winnipeg
didn't play earlier before before Toronto had locked everything down. But Rod normally doesn't say but they were just incredulous, like you know, playing for a drive playing for a quarter, but the fact he's in the third, you know, third quarter here. I mean, Jason, I don't know. To me, you'll never be able to argue playing any guy like that past the
first half, if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean I was super surprised, like we were talking about on the show last week, I didn't think he was gonna play at all these last two weeks, but they tught him out for the first three quarters and lived great a part of three quarters in this game. And yeah, you just it's super unnecessary because, like I said, there's no reason to do it because of their situation in the standings. I mean, they have a weird situation because it's been such a
long time since they've clinched. But regardless, I think that with only two weeks left the season, I feel like this is the time to completely sit him down for the last couple of weeks and give Cameron Duke's a longer look and Brian Scott potentially a longer look at the quarterback position because those guys need reps and they have not had many reps in the CFL as both rookies. I just you know, and Mike Mitchell has talked about the Chad and he's
got a lot of incentives based into his contract. And I do think, like we were talking with the Aj Llett and everything, I think that as much as they want to talk about playing one to zero, I think there's I think that is going on a lot, or at least it felt like it was in this game. Okay, let's get aj his thing like and
I get all that. I mean, what was in a couple of years ago where Tom Brady was throwing the Tanntonio Brown because he needed like twenty more receptions or whatever to get you know whatever it was one hundred thousand dollars or whatever, and he was shovel past into him. Like I get that.
But yeah, the Chad going into the third and like I said, do you hear kind of one of the phases of the league, like really questioning that obvious see loved and witty and Mike and we have tremendous respect for that, but just felt, uh, you know, Chad goes down here. I mean, this team is not the same with Cameron Dukes in terms of kind of anything else here evan of this game. Any other thoughts let me think probably not. I don't know. I just again like the amount of
depth that Toronto team has. It's just this league. I feel like again in parts of this season, you know, they've they've struck. Certain teams struggle I think with depth, you know, and you kind of see that, like it's some teams might not even even with their starters, you know, they might want to change some things up, whereas in Toronto you just have so much to work with. It's it's really nice to see. So again, I don't know, I just can't. I can't get that off
my mind as much as we've already talked about it. And then yeah, finally, like I said, just another disappointing season for the Riders where it
really felt like they had to me. I still remember the Labor Day game and sitting there and working and excuse me, I got it whatever in my throat, uh, listening to the game, and then beating you know, beating the right beating the Bombers at home, and like, oh my god, there's all this amendum and the overtime win and all of that, and then the thing that that would be the last game they would win this season is incredible. I mean, Jason, like the decline of that I don't
know. To me, as unpresidented here to lose the last seven games back to back seasons, especially this year, where that to me, it was like all the momentum was going in their favor. Yeah, there's some things in this league that simply don't make sense. Right, You were saying with the three teams that had long multi game home losing streaks at the same time in a nine team league. Like I said, there's just some things in this league that don't make sense. And I kind of chalk it up to
that. Just some weird things happen in the CFL, And I mean, yeah, just some strange things have happened in Regina the last couple of years. Yeah, I got the tweet here just talking about how yeah Hair with him and back Jason, do you see Harris next year in Regina? Is that like are we really are we doing that? Are we going to wait till we get new coaching staff? I mean, Jamie and I seemed to
think that. It was like, Hey, if I can go in and take the head coaching job, they're knowing I have someone like Trevor Harris. Does that do anything for you or do you want to kind of rebuild yeah, absolutely. I think it all comes down to Trevor, because Trevor was saying, I think I want to come back, but I'm not one hundred percent certain, and I won't say today that I'm coming back next year for sure, because you got to remember, this guy is thirty seven years old.
But if he wants a job in the in the CFLs the starting quarterback next year, he's going to have one, whether or not that's in Saskatswan or somewhere else, because I think I still think he was playing at it, you know, a top four, top five quarterback level prior to getting hurt this year. Remember this team was three and one before he got hurt, and during that game which he got hurt, they believe they were leading Calgary, so they had a chance to go four and one. They ultimately
ended up losing that game. So I mean, I think that if they had Trevor the rest of the season, they definitely would have made the playoffs. They don't see them going on, you know, this kind of a slide the last six weeks of the season, So I mean, I take something away from that from that perspective, but I think at the end of the day, the age is a concern with him, and the fact that Della Gallas showed some promise I think makes you have some thoughts about that.
You know, anything else here, We'll move on. We'll talk Lions here, Evan, you get yeah, I think so. I mean, just on the you know, quickly on on the Trevor Harris topic, I think, yeah, if even if you were to bring in, you know, new coaches, new management, whatever, I feel like Trevor Harris is a guy you can build around. And you could say the same for Jake Delgal.
I mean, you know, a young up and coming quarterback who's been you know, at the NFL level at one point, and yeah, Trevor Harris being like the seasoned, veteran guy, I'd say Trevor Harris probably has the best chance because like, look, you know, we've talked about some of the older quarterbacks, like Jeremiah was solely being another one. I was here hearing like, you know, Jeremiah Masoli. You know, even if you were to come back next season, you know, him starting wouldn't be
a lock like it would be for a guy like Trevor. You know, if you were to just hang around and who knows, maybe it won't be for Trevor either, depending on, you know, what the new coaching staff thinks. But I could see him staying, you know, in Saskatchewan. I think that's a very plausible option, and it feels like there's unfinished business there. I feel like he was brought in to be the guy to kind of turn the franchise around, and as much as they've seen promise from Jake
Dolegala, that was more of an unexpected route. So a couple of different ways you could go with that. But yeah, I mean I'd love to see Trevor play again. Yeah, I mean the time with Mizzoli. I mean, Mizzoli has really football in two years here. I mean you want to talking, you know, we've we attracted the Shaun Watson of it all.
And even if you get rid of everything off the field, like, it's really hard to take two and a half years off her play, especially like I think in the NFL you have a lot more like resources around you kind of like, okay, let's get you back up to speed here. I don't know Mizzoli coming off the couch and other one maybe has as much
at his disposal. All right, this was and I feel like we've gotten to the point on here, you know, and we've talked offline them online, and I think Jason is good at being critical too, and Evan obviously, like, you know, we're kind of getting into the league here, and okay, you can't say anything or we get poot pooed on or whatever.
Like we you know, twenty weeks now here covering this, like you know what, we say what we want on here now, and I think that we have at least, you know, one percent authority to kind of say what we feel. I had tweeted this out Friday following the BC Lions loss. Super disappointed to me. We'll get into all this, but I just said, b C lines have I have many bad losses this season. I've been told for months that they'll show up when it matters. The culture,
mindset of a team always matters, even when the wind doesn't. This is not a championship team. As much as it breaks my heart to say, we'll have many thoughts about it, felt that way felt the end of the season, you know, was really when I was there with the Winnipeg game, I thought, if they don't get over that hump, I don't see this turning out any differently than we did last year. We talked at
the top of the show about all of that stuff. To me, like I don't understand how you can go in and be so flat in your last home game of the year, Like we just said, Winnipeg, they're still putting up forty five. The game doesn't matter at all, Like Dane looked bad. Everything looked bad, Jason, I guess I'll go to you first,
Like I I caught we were out and then I came. I'm like, okay, I gotta we came home, like I got to figure out what's going on here, sat down and watch the last half of this game, Like what did you make of Just like to me, this is like this is a disaster. I don't know how you can like give Calgary the momentum here going in now they're going to be coming back in your building. We already put up forty points against you guys two weeks ago, like the
Donut Boys. Like to me, it's a non you know that, you say, like, oh BC whatever, like this is a non zero percent chance CALLERIY comes back in and runs us up. Yeah, I mean I still think they're going to win that game. Personally, because I think there was a lot of things in this game that swung in Calgary's direction. Because you know, one thing I'll point to is the two dropped interceptions that one of them would have for sure went back for a touchdown by Gary Peters.
You know, so I think Calgary didn't really play that well. I don't think the score reflects that this game was like a such a large spread. I think that, you know, at the end of the day, it was actually a pretty close game in terms of the actual level of play in
this game. But I think that, you know, it's concerning that BC shows up flat in some of these spots like this reminds me of that game that they lost to Hamilton earlier this year, where they just looked like a team that could not match the other team physically, and Calgary just kept on
running it right down their throats time and time again. And I think that's my biggest takeaway from this game is that this finally looked like last year's Calgary team that's very capable of running the football, plays some pretty good defense, you know, a capable defense that has some flaws, but a team that really relies on that running game with Kathien care who really showed up for the
first time this season. Peyton Logan was a difference maker as well. I always compare him to kind of Darren Sproles, Like I think he's just a really fascinating player to watch, and I think he had a big game in this one. And I think Calgary's just kind of finding their groove at the
right time here after sleepwalking through the whole season. It's weird, like you know, and not to give too much back on the hockey about it, but like Kraken are weird that way too, Like we'll show up like women, seven road games in a row, like like in a streak on the road, and then we'll come back home and I completely lay an egg and like, I don't know if there's something to do with like you know, the routine that goes into that. But having lived in Seattle forever with the
Seahawks, this feels very similar with BC. Like the Seahawks will always play down to their opponent, right, we turned the ball over three times against Arizona yesterday. I mean we won twenty to ten, but you know, Gino had the horrendous day and the fumble. These interceptions like you know, BC, like yeah, maybe that maybe they'll go in and like, okay, we can go. Yeah, we go toe to toe with Winnipeg and we go to overtime and all that stuff, but we cannot show up here.
Just to me, I'm tired of that and I just wish that we could just come in and approach the approach these games like a team that like actually thinks that we can be competitive in the playoffs. I mean I was talking with people at BC like oh, it's fine, like we don't you know, it's Calgary, and like I think we'll be fine. It's like at some point you need to there needs to be accountability there. And I think especially in the league like the CFL, like we're trying to rebuild the
BC thing, like you can't lay eggs at home like this. It's just to me, it's infuriating. Evan. I mean, look, I think I don't know some of this I feel like is a bit exaggerated. Like Jason said, this game, I mean like there wasn't there wasn't much Like this game meant way more for Calgary than it did for BCS. You kind of have to look at it more from the Calgary perspective. I understand, look last home game and the season, and you want to make a good
impression, you come out flat. I understand there were some important milestones on the line, Like I think Vernon had a chance to go over five thousand yards. Obviously that doesn't happen. Dane Evans comes into the game, looks subpar, you could say, unfortunately, but yeah, I mean, you know, to me, this game was just Calgary. It was more I think Calgary being in the must win situation and just saying, like, you know what, like are we've most of our season, we've just you know,
been really slow. We haven't really got things together. Now is the time where it all kind of comes together, because this, to be honest, I mean, as much as you know, Jason, like I agree when it comes to like the on field play was was relatively fair. Like you know, both teams I think played at a certain level. It's just
BC missed out on some opportunities. I agree with that, but I still feel like this was one of the most complete performances that we've seen from Calgary all year, and for once, it didn't take you know, just one player to really like, you know, Jake Mayer didn't have to throw for four hundred yards or something crazy like that to bail him out. You know, he only had to throw for one hundred and twenty three yards, but
was very efficient doing so, had two touchdowns. The run game finally got going, and it was actually Peyton Logan who got a majority of the work instead of Kadeem Carey who you know, I I don't know. I probably haven't talked about Kadem Carry as much of the season just because exactly they haven't had the same success running the ball. You could say the same for Saskatchewan and even BC to a degree. I will say the one guy in this
game Jakwan Hardy. He's an interesting prospect that was kind of you know, he bounced. He kind of bounced I think between the practice roster and active roster for BC this season. I don't really know when he was there the first time, or if he was there in training camp. I haven't really been following too much of his recent history, but I do know that he came from a Division two school at Tiffin, played previously for the Dallasys and
scored a touchdown with them. I remember that very well. Again, any small school player like that, I enjoy looking at things like that. So Jakwan Hardy, I mean, unfortunately, look, you know, eleven carries forty one yards one touchdown really wasn't too exciting. I mean, you're averaging under four yards to carry. You know, still a lot to you know, be desired there, but I feel like that's a piece again. I mean, if you're BC, you know, going into the playoffs, you
know, I'm sure you know there's a lot of different feelings there. Jaquan Hardy, I feel like it's one of those guys where you know, maybe you go into the offseason and he's, you know, somebody that you evaluate a bit more in depth, especially given you know you've tried a lot. I feel like in the run game, there's been a couple couple different people to Kwan Mizell, Sean Shivers that have come in there, you know, to try and do something and it just hasn't really worked out. So again,
maybe you further evaluate something there. And now now I'm just kind of getting into players, but we'll roll with it. Justin mcinness, some of we talked about at great length at the beginning of the season. Then you know, you had guys like Alex Hollins and Keon Hatcher kind of take over, you know, in the receiving game. Again, we all know how diverse that receiving corps is, but McInnis you know, stood out in this
game, which was you know, good to see. And then yeah, on the Calgary side, like I said, and we talked about Peyton Logan, we talked about Jake Mayer. Reggie Bagelton, I'm not sure. I think he was already over the thousand yard fresh gold going into this game. Pretty well over that, I think, So not really much on the line there, but again, somebody who you know, through the thick and thin this season for Calgary has been a guy that they can rely on, you
know, regardless of you know, what's going on. Somebody that you can just always, you know, throw to and there's a good chance to the play will be made. So, you know, Bagelton I'm sure is happy, given that you know, he's been you know, doing things in Calgary for a couple of years now and even had a stand with the Packers kind of in between that, I'm sure he's happy that his team is playoff bat They're all happy obviously the team's playoff bound again, like I don't think.
It just seems like such an unprecedented position, you know, not just to them, but I think to a lot of other people in the league as well. So that's kind of where I'm out on that game. Look, you know, bc unfortunate turn of events there. You know, it wasn't a very entertaining last game at home. But I don't know, again,
I just don't think this is the game to be getting mad about. Yes, you want to have momentum going into the playoffs, but at the same time, like you know, if you don't, if you don't have as much to play for, or really nothing to play for, given that, you know, they were pretty much just in second and that was it. You know, well, I guess if they won, you know, maybe they could have extended it. But then Winnipeg, you know, beat Edmonton
anyway. So again that's where all the you know, interesting scenarios come into play that I don't really know enough about about excuse me to talk about. Uh so I'm not going to go into that. But yeah, ultimately, again I just feel like the one interesting this game is so much more interesting now that we know Calgary is going to the playoffs and you're gonna turnround in a couple of weeks and the same matchup is going to happen at the same
place. That's the only thing where I'm like, okay, because again we kind of all expected Saskatchewan to come in and play BC. And again, you know which team is better to play? I don't really know BC should be beating either of those teams pretty handedly, but you know, yeah, and you got to ask yourself, like maybe Calgary, like again, they they're starting to know this team a bit better. They've played them, you know, I feel like so many times now this season they'll be playing them
again in the playoffs. I saw Calgary play at BC, you know, going back to the beginning of August, Like I saw that matchup live, and yeah, the fact that that's a playoff matchup again is still still a bit beyond me. But again, funny things happen, and yeah, well it'll be interesting to see, you know what Calgary does again with that sort of you know, recency bias or from clarity or whatever you want to call
it, because they could take advantage of that. Again, BC should definitely be winning that game, but maybe it's more competitive with Calgary, you know, ripping this one off. Yeah, I just I'm looking here at this is like you know, and we've talked to all season like, oh, you know BC, like I mean they're twelve and six. I mean al Wett's are ten and seven. If they win over you know, they win
this weekend, they're eleven and seven. Like we've talked about like the slide in the roller coaster of the Alouettes all season here and like you know, I mean BC, in terms of their record here, twelve and six is not I don't know, like to me, there was just a lot of winnable games here that we kind of like go down the slide. And to me, like I've already said a lot of complacency, I like, well, you know, like Winnipeg's gonna win anyway, so who cares, Like
we'll take second. The last thing for me, will go back to Jason and then we'll probably get out of here soon, you know, goodbye.
Vernon an mop debate, like you know, and I know he was kind of banged up right like you get mount like we're not even bringing him out the second and I know we talked about the whole chack Kelly of it all and all that, but like BC at least had quote unquote something to play for here in terms of trying to at least get get first, even if it was kind of a few top point, what did you make adjacent to that, Like, I mean, say to the Vernon the MLP debate,
Well, it was weird considering what they said going into this game, like we want to put pressure on Winnipeg to win those last two games, like we're gonna go well out to win this game, and then they pull Vernon at halftime. So I mean that kind of confused me. But I did get it. I think, you know, with the way the game was going, he was taking a lot of hits and he didn't necessarily look very
good in that first half at all. So I mean, I get it, you give Dane some playing time, but Dane didn't look much better either, So I mean, just a weird game for BC. I also thought the penalties went against them a lot in this game. I don't like to blame the refs, but I think there was a lot of calls that swung in Calgary's direction, so I think that played a factor and why the score
was so lopsided. But at the end of the day, very disappointing effort from BC In this one one positive thing, Matthew Betts set the Canadian sack record with eighteen sacks on the season, and I wasn't even sure when I first saw that that it really was his sack, but ultimately they decided to count it as his sack because there's two guys kind of closing in at the
same time. But congratulations to him for breaking that record. And then for Calgary, I mean, Reggie Bangleton, that catch near the goal line really was the exclamation mark on that first half and the way that Calgary came out and won that first half. Just amazing catch. And I just like how Jake Mayer was just like he had a bunch of time in the pocket and he just like, screw it, I'm just gonna give my guy a shot,
and he came down with it. Yeah. I don't know, sports are weird like it just in terms of like we talked like the big mo like momentum and all that kind of stuff, and we were into the cracking game on Saturday, and like the game starts out and like we're just on
fire. Like I think we had like two or three shots on goal in the first forty five seconds and then they stopped the game and we're like, you know, we're there, so like okay, what's going on and we're trying to pull up the game and listen, and something was wrong with one of the lights and they didn't it wasn't even on the ice, and so then they had to do this whole like back and forth, switching you know, back like every ten minutes, we had to switch sides of the ice
and like it just messed with our heads right and like the crack and just were never able to get back together with it. It just kind of it was just a really weird game. Like this feels like that, like I don't know, like with sports and c IS, it's such a swing And I just hope that BC this doesn't like weigh on them here and they I know, we had Eddie Steele on a few weeks ago and he said, like no and it's signed to play, like you'll show up for your home
playoff game. But that is my last concern about Evan anything else. That we'll probably wrap this up here soon. Yeah, I mean, look, you know, it's it's tough because like with you know, I mean you were talking about Vernon MLP. I mean that kind of ended after the Winnipeg game. You know, I feel like I just if you're BC, like you know, owner of these playoffs, like I the momentum right now, I don't really know where the momentum is that, you know, when you're
gonna need a lot of moment to him. I mean I think, well, not necessarily to beat Calgary at home again, that should be fine. If if something happens there, boy, we're gonna be having an interesting show. But anyway, yeah, I mean that, I mean we're all just all eyes like it's crazy. Again. Just never fails to amaze me.
How we were talking about this like BC Winnipeg matchup in like June, like right when the season started, we were like, well, this is probably gonna be the West Final again, you know, and I mean East Final. Yeah, it'll probably be you know again well probably yeah, I mean I thought maybe back then it would be it could still be Hamilton, you
know, in Toronto, in Montreal. You know, we'll see, right, But like the West Final just felt so you know, kind of locked up early, like I just didn't really see any other teams that we're gonna, you know, rise to that level and sure enough, yeah, here we are again, you know, still talking about all these months later, but in terms of a result, like you know, I don't know, yeah, like just BC going into Winnipeg again, like we've said it so
many times, but now that it's like the end of the season in BC, you know, is right at the doorstep of the playoffs, it's like, you know, where where is this team really at? You know, like we're gonna we'll see in that Calgary game, you know, that playoff game, what they're able to do, you know, and how that kind of plays a role in the really important again that West final is just like I mean, we've had a couple you know, Game of the Year candidates,
including that last one between BC and Winnipeg and BC. But you know, boy, I mean, if this team can you know, capture some of that momentum again, and I don't want to say they've lost any but if they can you know, really get back in the swing of things, I mean, who knows what the odds are of them actually going into Winnipeg and pulling that one out, but at least to make it an entertaining game and not you know, Winnipeg just blowing the wheels off them in the snow
and having it done by halftime. I think that would be a good That would definitely I think help the CFL as a whole more than anything. I like as I watched Moneyball over the weekend and the Brad Pitt where he was the GM of the Oakland A's and doing all that and they won the twenty games in a row, and he said, he was talking at the end of the movie, goes, you know, unless you win that last game of the series, it doesn't matter, you know, it doesn't matter how
many games we've won or whatever. And I don't know. I mean, we'll see it's time to play up for Jason. Anything else, I gotta go film here, No, not nothing else for me just looking over my notes here. I mean, one thing I noticed right away in this game was the first couple of plays of the game. You know, Calgary draws up these perfect passing plays deep down the field, both drops by the Calgary
receivers, and that's been a trend for them the entire season. So if they're gonna beat BC again, I think they're gonna have to have a better effort from the receivers outside of Babilton. All right, well, I appreciate it. Check out Jason's channel. Like I said, we got our great Cup show coming. We'll get all that figured out. That lots of guests and stuff for that. I think it should be a plethora of wonderful people
on that. I appreciate everyone. And we'll figure out this week XFL stuff coming down maybe, and then I gotta figure out who we want to hear from CFL wise, but yeah, we'll figure out next week. It could be a little ugly there, so let's say we'll brainstorm offline, so I'll see everyone that next time. Thanks so much.