The Mark Moss Show | JP Sears

at ourselves, what can we even do? And so one of the best ways to break these things down is to poke fun at them. And so I'm talking about JP Sears. You might know him from his wonderful sketches on uh YouTube. And so we're gonna talk about freedom. We're gonna talk about why he's doing what he's doing, how he uses comedy to expose things. We're gonna talk about the world I can mcforhim. We're gonna talk about

bick one, We're gonna talk about so many things. Let's just go ahead and just jump right into the interview with JP. The content is only one part of what I do. I mean, I am I have multiple businesses, um Advisor for a for a investment fund, UM started just another investment fund. I have all my personal investments, I have kids. I mean, I have all this other stuff um And a lot of times I just asked myself, like, why why am I doing this? I have to kind of go back to that. Well, I'm sure you do

as well. So why is that that you keep doing this and putting that much time into it when you could certainly do two videos a week instead of five. Yeah, you know, I think for me, it's it's a passion for the message of sovereignty, critical thinking, and ultimately freedom, and there's obviously so much opposition in the world against that, so I think being very mission focused, it's the most motivating,

energizing thing, way more energizing than caffeine, for example. So there's just like that natural energy to do a lot. And it's also pretty rewarding, and I mean extremely rewarding and fulfilling, just out of like a sense of un contributing to the greater good, which to me makes all the hard work and massive amount of time worth it. Yeah, the only way. So, so what is the mission? Yeah, in a word, the mission is freedom to spread it,

to spread the ideas, Yes, spread the ideas. And I think a wise man Ramdas once said, you can't get out of a jail you don't know you're in. And there's so much anti freedom, tyranny, authoritarianism in the world that's all packaged in the wrapping paper of gas lighting saying like, hey, we're trying to save democracy by banning

free speech. So but because there's so much opposition in the world trying to take freedoms, and knowing about history like this is not the first time it happens, and we see where it will go if we allow it. So I think we're living in a very critical time in history, which just makes the mission of freedom internally and externally externally, Like obviously our social or national policies,

let's let the constitution actually continue exist, that's important. But also I don't think we can have external freedom if we don't also have internal freedom of helping people be in touch with their own critical thinking um as well as people having the courage to act on what actually they think is true as well as what feels true

in their heart. So there's just because we're at that critical time in history, I think it's really important to go all in, and you know, I look forward to the day, hopefully soon, where it's like, oh, you know, freedom is not like as in Jeopardy as it is now. It's relatively good. We don't want to take it for granted again. But I look forward to the day where it's like, dude, I don't think we need to make that much content anymore. And now we have to talk

about other things. Yeah, yeah, let's let's or for me comedy world, like, let's come up with a funny video about coconut oil or just something stupid and frivolous like that, rather than kind of like the life and death scenario of freedom is in the ballast Yeah yeah, yeah, uh

and what about using comedy for that? So um, in preparing for this, we were looking at some of the things that you've been talking about, um, and you talk a lot about things that I don't want to talk about right now because I want to put this on YouTube. And I can't imagine what those they had to do with the medicine and uh, you know, those types of things. But ye, costa but Corona beer, Yes, yeah, we'll talking about alcohol, but you get away with a lot of

stuff because of the comedy side. Do you think it's because the algorithms don't pick that up? I do. I think there's a couple of components to it. One is the algorithms. They however, they're programmed. I don't think they're programmed to pick up satire. And when I like my we all have love language is probably heard about them like physical touch, gifts, words of affirmation. I think we also have humor languages. Some people like slapstick humors, some

people like goofy, some people like raunchy. But satire is my natural humor language. So when you're beating satirical like you can like sarcastic, absolutely, So it's all in the tone of voice, the delivery, and the context. So if you read this script from one of my satirical news videos that I do, take out the body language, the tonality, and the context you're just reading the script, you'd be like, Oh, he's just literally saying the narrative. We approve of this.

So I think the AI is reading words, it's not reading the human artistic elements. I'd imagine they're working on that, But I think that's a speaking the comedy language of satire helps dance through the rain drops of censorship. I also think you know me knowing what are the hot buttons that will get you d platform real quick talking about medicines in a way that's against the narrative. So the language of comedy helps open up other doors of expressions.

So using metaphors and analogies, even acting out metaphors like, um, did you by chance to see the video I did on life jackets being mandated? The video wasn't about life jackets. We can use our imagination of what it was about. So if I don't wear my life jacket, then how how do I keep you from drowning? Absolutely, and these life jackets are proven to be safe and effective. People are drowning all the time. Some of the life jackets actually sink to the bottom, but we're not going to

talk about that. So, uh, you know, unlike yourself where you know, I think the state of the world, people who are into retaining there's freedom, sovereignty, living as a decentralized person. I look at people like you and I and others who are speaking their messages in different ways. We're all playing in a symphony. We're playing different instruments. You know you're playing the instrument. You speak just amazing cutting edge information in a literal way. I'm speaking in

a comedic way. So we're playing different instruments, but we're playing the same song. And I think we need all the instruments, and God help us if comedy was the only instrument. We need them all. And there's advantages to playing your instrument, advantages for playing mine. And I think when it comes to censorship, the language of comedy really

helps open up door. Is where I have liberties with censorship that maybe you don't, where you have to be extra careful or it's like crap, I can't even cover this topic, but I can throw on a life jacket, act out this metaphor and I know it will connect with what people have in mind and they'll know what it's about, even though I'm not ever seeing the thing that it's about. So have you been getting strikes or warnings?

Let's see, I got it. This was fun. On my second YouTube channel, it's called JP Reacts, where I'm doing more commentary, so it's much more straightforward, literal stuff that instrument. I I made a video about our good friend from Microsoft, the world's best doctor with no medical training, no no degree either Bill Gates, and and I compiled these clips of him speaking about depopulating the world and we're gonna do that through you know what, uploaded that video. It

wasn't even published. That video got taken down and uh, not a strike but a warning against my channel. In my main YouTube channel, I had a strike come at me in January, of which I think was the tensest point we we've had in the past few years. You know, is between the election and the inauguration, everybody's losing their crap. So I had a strike on my channel for hate speech, like all right, let me look at this video, and I know all the videos I published. I'm like, well,

this is this is frivolous. This there's nothing and they're so I repealed it, and luckily they granted me the repeal, took this strike down, and at the time there was a very well orchestrated cancel attempt towards me. So it was pretty obvious that this group of woke band that's got together simultaneously reported this video, and luckily YouTube just saw the facts of the matter of that video is not violating anything, even though their guidelines that are there

to be violated, are completely frivolous in the first place. Yeah, they saw that video, didn't. So luckily I've been relatively unwounded during this time of heavy sense. I've heard Joe Rogan talk quite a bit about the problems that comedian comedians have these days, more on the woke culture side, their cancel culture side, right where you just can't say these things that used to be funny anymore, right, so um as a as a comedian, and then you see

that as well. I'm guessing, well, well, I see it, but I disagree with Joe Rogan the sentiment of comedians can't get away with things. You can't say this or that. Yes, you can, certainly does. Chappelle certainly does. The difference between him and a lot of other people, including some other comedians, Chapelle has balls. He has what's called courage. I'll never forget the comedy club I've performed at a couple of times in Philadelphia. In the green room wall, there's a

big picture of Dave Chappelle and he signed it. In above his signature, he wrote a little message. He said, dear comedians, you have one job, and that's to speak the truth, no matter what Dave Chappelle does that it takes courage. So this idea that comedians can't say things, they only can't say things if they consent to the tyranny of intimidation from the woke mob or the narrative. But you absolutely can say anything you want. It just takes courage to know I'm coming from my best discernment

of truth, my intentions are in the right spot. Will you get hate? And yeah you will, but yuh. Something I've learned about cancel culture is they can't cancel you unless you consent to it. And part of the consenting process is based in fear, where you're afraid to lose what they can take away, what they can take away, approval, they can take away, you know, audience support, they can sway people to think you're a racist, transphob all the smears. But if you're not afraid to lose what they can

take away, you are uncancellable. And Dave Chappelle, I'm not going to compare myself to him, because he's probably the greatest to ever live. That man is not afraid to lose anything. He's uncanceable. He's what, like Brett Weinstein would say, He's reached a and escape velocity point that I want to ask you about. He got to a point where he's bigger than the game. He doesn't need a game, yes, right, yeah, people, Um I I listened to Andrew Tate and he was

talking about the difference. He was trying to compare himself and Logan Paul or Jake Paul are one of those guys, and he said the difference is I have fans and he has viewers. Because he's on YouTube, people watch him. He's like, I have fans and no matter where I go, those fans will follow. And I don't want to go into the whole thing about Andrew Tate, but it just made me think about the difference there, right, and so like, um,

that's a great distinction. Yeah if if Dave Chappelle, like he has fans and those people will follow him, right, you have fans, people go search you out right, And so I think maybe that's the difference. And so back to the escape velocity, like, do you have to get big enough to a point where you're like like a Joe Rogan. I I don't listen to all his shows.

If I see an episode, I want to listen to it, um, but I downloaded Spotify just so I could listen to Joe Rogan, right, um, so I followed him, and so he's uncancellable. He could go launch his own censorship or system place form and like people would go there. Yeah. Yeah, I think when you're at that mega Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, Jordan Peterson's status, it's easier to be uncancellable because, like your great distinction, they know they have fans, not just viewers,

so they can whatever stream on their own website. They can. Dave Chappelle, he he wasn't even on social media until about two years ago, came on Instagram, still never posts there, but he sells out theaters in arenas like that, and he's not even on social media, but people find him. So I think it's easier for them. Not to say it doesn't take courage for them, because it does. But if you're a comedian or a commentator and you've got less than ten thousand viewers, it still applies to you.

I think it just takes more courage because you're you're a If you allow your hope to be you're a little more dependent on the machine, the machine of social media the machine of the powers that be, And granted, like if you're kicked off, you're canceled. That's a pain in the butt, probably a career setback. Some people wouldn't

have the ingenuity to recover from it. But in my opinion, the the decision to be uncancellable in the name of standing for your truth, it applies to everybody, just a little easier, probably a lot easier if you're a megastar. You know, when I when when we're listening at something I've been talking about quite a bit, and they'll get your take on this is that truth is being sucked out of the world right like it's it's obviously being censored, it's being changed, and two plus two is five and

all these things. And it seems like, you know, like I said, this truth has been under attack. And as humans, I don't believe we want to live a lie. And

but who will stand up and speak the truth? And so you mentioned to Jordan Peterson, who mentioned to Joe rogan Um and Andrew Tate, somebody who's willing to stand up and say that, A chapelle who's willing to stand up and say it, regardless of what happens seems to be right now, shooting higher because like everybody, yes, somebody said it, yes, right, And if you look at the way like movements start, like leaders typically are very polarizing

because like if you're lukewarm, he's kind of okay, Well I don't hate him. I don't like him that much, it's kind of okay, right, But the polarizing people people hate them, but people love them, and then hey, I hate Chapelle. People hate him, but also people love him, and then they'll they'll they'll pack into theaters. Right. So I think for for people listening to content creators sitting

there talking, I think that's one thing. I think one you said, we're all different instruments in orchestra, so there's everybody should have a voice because there's somebody out there that could resonate with that. It's a different instrument. But even more importantly, like don't be lukewarm, like be polarizing, like people hate you, you have a cancel mob against you, but also people love you, and so you get both sides of it. Yeah, man, I I I so agree

with that, and you know, with being polarizing. For me, the main ingredient in that is be bold and unapologetic with how you see the truth. Polarizing doesn't mean you're you're raunchy, you're doing things for shock value. I think that's like artificially flavored polarizing. There was my original mentor pul Check. Remember being in his office in my early twenties and he had this big picture of Einstein on the wall with an Einstein quote that said great minds

always encounter violent opposition. Now, back in the early two thousand's, I looked at that. I'm like, that's a cool quote, but I don't like get it here in the twenties, Oh, I get it. Dave Chappelle, Jordan Peterson encounters violent opposition. But those are the leaders that you mentioned. And in the also you mentioned like humans have this natural propensity to seek truth, and I truly believe that is in

our just innate d n A niature nature. We seek truth just like the wisdom of animals out in like your backyard. You you have deer out there. They don't come up and try to eat your grill. They don't try to, you know, eat your chairs. They're seeking actual food nutrition that's in their d n A, that's their programming. I seek actual food, and to me, truth is food for our mind and probably our whole being. And you

can fool us for a while. You can feed us artificially flavored arbage process stuff with such little nutritional value that it actually takes more nutrientside of your body to process that food than it actually delivers. You can fool people for a while, but not forever, and a lot of people will wake up and go after actual nutritious mind food much earlier. So that's why you know, it's

what I might stands on freedom. It was never business motivated, Like, hey, I think like standing for freedom, that's gonna be a

good business move. That wasn't the motivation. But looking at it and some of the examples you mentioned, like a Jordan Peterson Andrew Tate, people who speak truth, that is the best thing anyone can do for business because the lukewarm people, what they're really doing there in a fear based mindset of I'm trying to pay it play it safe, Like yeah, I like, I'll push the edge a little bit. I won't really push it too far. I'll say a little something here, but I'll pull back. Yeah, that's not

someone emanating truth. That's someone who's afraid. Therefore they're trying to play it safe and please the masses rather than being a servant to the truth that wants to live through them. Yeah, I'm I'm not. I'm just not naturally a confrontational guy. So uh, you know, I don't get as polarizing or whatever as as it could be. Um, but it is. It is something to think about, and I think back to living the truth. I think, Um, you know, you look at how like these movements started

to talk about the movement. But I'm sure you've seen the video or what the viewers have seen this video where like, um, there's like a concert like on a lawn section, and one person gets up and starts dancing, and everyone's like laughing and pointing, look at that idiot. Kind of a thing, right, And eventually another person gets up and then like they're still kind of laughing, not as many, and then the third and then next thing,

you know, like everybody's dancing. So if one person can get up and defy the censorship and defy cancel culture and stand up and succeed, then look how any more people will be motivated to come and stand up and

succeed with that? Right, absolutely, and the pioneers, we all owe them gratitude, the first ones to stand up like things I'm talking about now Jordan Peterson was talking about back in two thousand and fifteen or sixteen, and at the time, I'm like, dude, that I don't think that's relevant, and like you're catching all these arrows. He's just way smarter. He saw it way before I did. He's taken way

more arrows. But those of us who follow in his trail, yeah, we'll catch arrows, but he's the one with the machete, hacking through the forest, taking the arrows head on. And you know, likewise speaking a common truth about really anything, whether it's what Black Lives Matter really stands for, embezzlement, or the medicines of our time. Those of us who were speaking truth to those things back in me we took a lot more arrows than people who either saw

it completely differently or they were just scient silent. But now a lot of them are saying the same things we were saying back in and good for them, Like none of us are ever the first pioneer, the first one to crash through the wall, um, but when someone does, it makes it a lot easier for those to follow, whether you're in the second wave, third wave, or three years later, like like it's safer to say the actual intelligent things about what's going on now? Yeah, so what

is going on now? Um? You you reference that you hope that at one point maybe it's not so urgent, but it is urgent now, right, and you see the urgency which gives you energy to pour into the mission, which is it gives you energy to do this content. So what is going on? We have the West? Uh, they've been meeting this last week. They've been talking about a lot of a lot of things that they've been

talking about, and they just get scarier. Maybe, um, what are some of the things that you see that are so urgent that maybe we could kind of apply pressure back to Yeah, Well, first off, Mark, I think on camera you should admit to your audience that you are a member of the World Economic Forum. I should be, I should join, So I could I could be the

enemy within you become the controlled opposition. Yeah. You know what's going on from my delusional perspective at a very high level, is there's really an attempt for global domination from people who probably had really wounded childhood experiences probably didn't feel love, so they're trying to compensate for that emptiness with a sense of control. And I think the World Economic Forum seems to be the star on top of that Christmas tree. Very poor analogy because that stands

for something very different. But the there seems to be a very orchestrated attempt to erode people's freedoms away, install people in governments around the world who will facilitate that under the direction of the very unelected leader Klaus Schwabs, so high level. I think there's a very orchestrated attempt

for global control over people. And then the fight is for individuals nations, yes, but at the heart of it, the cellular level of fight for individuals to retain their sovereignty and their human rights, and of course the attempt for global control. It's all packaged and lovely sounding wrapping paper paper like, yeah, we're gonna ban fertilizers to save the climate. Yeah it's starved to death. Yeah we see that. We're not going to talk about that. But the all

we do to scare you about the climate. Guess what we also have the solution of that, you know, eat some crickets. Not meat. So I think part of the control there's deliberate attempts to weaken people mentally and physically. Weakening people mentally has to do with telling them what's true rather than letting them use the muscle of their own critical thinking. I think back to the New York Times article that was published on the dangers of critical thinking.

Weakens people mentally. That's why the narrative is always coming at you twenty four seven, Because the more you just listen to that, that's like leaning on a mental crutch. You're not using your prefrontal cortex doing your own thinking, so people get weaker. And then physically, it seems like there's that attempt to weaken people at the physical level is very much there as well, where we see propaganda like James Cameron came out and said testosterone is a poison.

I think that hormone is incredibly natural, incredibly healthy, and that literally makes you strong. And the propaganda about meat is bad. Meat's gonna cause hurricanes, so we're gonna out and said, what lucky charms is more more healthy than

eggs cooked and butter. Absolutely, So you look at eggs cooked in butter, I eat that for breakfast almost every day I eat all I mean, these foods that adjectively make people stronger are the foods they're trying to scare you about and then eat crickets, eat lucky charms, these foods I don't even know if you call them foods, but these substances that certainly won't make you stronger, but I would say they would actually make you weaker and sicker. Yeah, so, um,

it's funny. I was thinking about that don't do your own research, and and the dumbing down of people, you know. And at the same time, they're saying, we have to save democracy, to save democracy, to save democracy, so democracy would be everybody gets a voice, which will just be clear of the US is the United States was founded as a republic, not a democracy. They're saying the democracy because they want to change the narrative. We're not a democracy,

so it' gonna be clear on that. But they want to say save the democracy, which means everybody gets a voice, and then it would be the will of the people. But people are dumb, and they're telling people not to do their research. Well, if they're telling people not to do their research, then why would we care about their opinion. Yeah, right it and not to mention like in our democracy everybody has a voice, like you mentioned, yet we're banning

speech left and right obviously censorship. And then, um, I forget the lady's name, but at the beautiful Dean and Davos this week, there was a lady in the European Union who said, yeah, the freedom of press in the US, that's not going to be long lived because the dangers, there's so much hate speech and so, in other words, taking away the voice of the people in order to promote democracy, which gives everybody a voice, it is just gaslighting.

It's double speak. Whatever they say, they're actually doing the opposite, which, by the way, our First Amendment not only gives us the right to free speech, but also specifically the right to freedom of press. And here's this European Union lady, not an American, not an elected representative in America, talking about how the US will put the clamps on freedom of press. How dare anybody saying anything? Mean? Yeah, over again, ever again, And it's just the ridiculous liessn't of that

the gas lighting too? You know, when you look at the definition of gas lighting, I mean it's a form of psychological warfare or torture against somebody. And I think a lot of this also it's meant to demoralize, right, I'm sure you see it a lot. I see it a lot on my comments if you go through your comments. Um, but I see these comments of people are like, what what, we have no chance, we have no choice. Why should

I even bother? Um, there's nothing we can do. And I constantly see that, you know, and and and the demoralization has worked. Um, I've started. You know, I talk a lot of you do a more lighthearted kind of way, a lot of stuff. I talk about the same topics, but it's it's more matter of fact. What's heavy? Um. And then it's too much doom and gloom all the time. And I try to like really kind of pivot back to and we're going to pivot back to some hope in this, but pivot back to some hope. Like, look,

things are bad. I believe we can win if we do the hard work. And I believe that for my kids and in a few generations there's hope and prosperity. And just when I landed here in Austin, UM, I looked at a couple of comments that came through on I syndicate my videos out to channels where they don't get censored, so not just YouTube, so they go to like Odyssey and bit Shoot and Rumble and stuff like that. And I had a couple of comments and one said,

hope and prosperity. What a buffoon. I'm an idiot for thinking that there could be hope and prosperity in the future. Apparently another person said there's no chance of hope. The FED has all the control essential bankers are gonna Like, I saw a couple of those comments come in, and I'm just like, maybe that's indicative of that audience that's on bit shoot, Like, but I'm just like, man, people

are so demoralized. Yeah, and I I can empathize with that. Like, there's a lot of screwed up stuff going on in the world, a lot of unjust stuff going on, So I understand why someone can be to moralized. However, the spoiler alert that a demoralized person probably doesn't want to hear because they're sitting there. They probably agree with a lot of what you and I might say as far as the perspectives of what's going on in the world, but they sit there and have this message of but

we're hopeless. Well, those people probably don't know, but they need to understand is they are being controlled by the tyrants. You know. That's that belief that we're hopeless. That's exactly their point. That's exactly where they want you to be. So you've entered the frame of the authoritarians. The moment you actually believe we are hopeless, I personally have tremendous hope.

You look at cycles throughout history, and sometimes the tyrants do some really tyrannical stuff taken to the nth degree, but a lot of times freedom wins. You look at Hitler, his reign was I mean, he took it a long ways, but Hitler did not win. You look at the brave people in seventeen seventy six in the American Revolution. There they won against a very tyrannical regime who, by all rights, they should have won. And and I think there's a

thousand more examples. Yeah, and I'll have moments of demoralization. I won't pretend like I don't. Luckily, they're just moments. They're not hours or days, their moments. And in those moments, I'll look at the measurables. Okay, the authoritarians, tyrants, the West Chinese Communist Party, the Biden regime. They control governments, they control trillions of dollars, they control all the mainstream media, they control big tech. We can, politician, we can't compete

with that. What do we have? Then I start to read, member, we have two things. We have a massive amount of more people, and we have got on our side. And I'm not a religious scholar. I do believe in a higher power who I believe stands for truth. I think truth is based on the higher power. I think that is ultimate freedom. So evil people, and my definition of evil, just I don't sound abstract, is anyone who tries to control another person in a way that's not in their

best interest. Evil people don't have GOT on their side. We do. Evil people don't have the masses on their side. We do. So we have things that are so powerful that they're beyond measure, largely everything that authoritarians have. They're not unpowerful, but they're powerless enough that you can measure them quantitatively, like, oh, how much money do they control? What are the governments they can troll? What's the media

they control? So I have tremendous hope. And you know, you can be the most well resourced person, You can be the most well resourced group mentally, physically, capability wise. But if you don't have hope, your resources are useless and you you have lost before you even started the game. In my opinion, there's a line from Star Wars and it's something about rebellions are built on hope, and so, um, yeah, what revolution will ever happen? Who will ever stand up

if they don't have hope that they can succeed? Who would start a business if they don't have hope they could succeed? Who would have a family if they wouldn't write them? And without hope, you're dead right, the people perish. I think the Bible says I hope that people perish. Um yeah. The other thing I would add to that and I agree with those things. Another thing I would add that we have on our side is that their

plans do not work. And we know this because Sri Lanka was the school and look what happened in Sri Lanka. And so every time these types of central planning control policies, Viet money experiments, every time they've been applied and let run of course they fail, and so ultimately, if we just leave them a little long enough, they'll fell on

their fall on their own. Nietzschi says that which is falling, shall ye also push So then I like to also push back a little bit, right, So, um, you have hope, which gives you some energy and strength and motivation to do something. So, where do you see some places that we can kind of push back for those that are feeling demoralized? Yeah, you know, I think the greatest there's many places, but I think the greatest pushback is taking

sovereignty over our own lives. And and I'll throw out the term become decentralized in many senses of the word. The more you're decentralized as far as thinking cool now you are not dependent on the narrative, You are not outsourcing your information. You are a decentralized free thinker. You've got to start there. Become decentralized with your grow some of your own food. Sounds sort of minuscule, but it's huge because if you're dependent on the centralized food systems,

you will be dependent on the people controlling those. You'll literally be enslaved unless you're willing to be to starve to death, become decentralized with finance. That's reason why I'm such a big fan of bitcoin. So I think, uh, how to become decentralized in all the ways, it comes down to self responsibility. Centralization is all based on someone else's responsibility. You do it for me, You produce the food, I'll go to the store and buy it. Cool. You

do you fed, You run the monetary system. Cool, I'll just participate in that. Um. You tell me what's going on in the world, I'll just hear it and believe it. Raise my kids for me, take care of my education, give me healthcare. Absolutely, And there's not self responsibility in their very little amounts of it. But self responsibility. I think it's the greatest superpower of our time. And it's uncomfortable because it takes work, it takes effort, it takes

mental energy to become more and more self responsible. Yet the more self responsible you are, truly, the more decentralized you are. You're not you're not contributing to the momentum of what's wrong in the world. You're taking your kinetic energy out of that and putting it into your own life. And probably the community around you, which is I think a much better place for our kinetic and mental energy

to be energizing. So become independent, um, which means you're not depending on somebody else for all of those things. So being healthy and strong, then I don't have to depend as much on the medical system because I can my body is healthy. Right. My money with bitcoin, I can store it on my own. Nobody can manipulate it. Um, whether I and then even having money, even having money, because then money gives us options. So then I can gross some my food. I can buy food from other farmers,

we could trade coop. So ways to become more independent, I guess is kind of what you're thinking. And then and then taking care of yourself first, um, and then becoming that example because then other people see that example and then they want to join in A hundred percent agree with that. And I think when it comes to be becoming independent, I think the best place to start is exactly where we're at and then take one step forward, because someone could like look at you, like, oh, mark,

you you bought a ranch. That's like an incredible mark of independence. You've got land, you can grow your own food, You've got probably some major investment. So there's a degree of financial independence there. Mark that's fifty steps from where I'm at. So I'm hopeless that works for you. No, No, it's a continuum. So wherever you're at, whether you're making sixteen grand a year or sixteen million dollars a year, no matter what you have, you can take the next

step of independence. And you know, my first step of independence was super small, but it was my first step. I remember back December, I'm like, dude, I don't know the poop might hit the fan. So I ordered a sixty days supply of nonperishable food from I think it was my Patriots Supply dot com. That's not the end all be all, but that was my first step. Second step, I bought my first firearm. So these are little steps that are helping take me where I want to go

within my current financial means. And everybody considers what's my current financial means, but there's no excuse. We can take more steps. And taking one step towards independence, that is that's a great improvement. Once you're there, you can assess what's your next step. Yeah, and and to your point, and I made a couple of videos about this ranch and I got the comments, Oh, that's easy for you, you're rich, I don't have any money, blah blah blah.

But um, to your point, uh, what's your own health? Like, yeah, is your health? Are you healthy? Because that's a step that you could certainly take. Right getting into the gym that is a mark of independent. Or you push ups, that's the mark of independence. And what about your education, like you're as you mentioned new sources and things like that, are you affecting? Are you changing your new sources? Like you can do that, and then you know, then the

step like do you have thirty days worth of savings? Right? And if not, maybe you need to learn a new skill so you can make some more money. And then you know, have you ordered some frozen food or some

m R E s or whatever? Right? And and then you know as far as the ranch, like, um, I've had a hard time out here, um finding good like ranch hand help, you know, and someone could easily come say, hey, Mark, I'll run your garden for you and grow a greenhouse and manage all your animals and like give me ownership of some of the fruit of my labor, the crops and the animals, and like I would gladly do that. And so those options are available so you can work

your way to this. It doesn't have you don't need to have sixteen million, as you said, you could have sixteen thousand and you could just go off, hey, I'll do this for you. We share this with capitalism, So there's things people can do. Yeah, and doing those things that I love how you mentioned, like be creative and like, hey, if you had someone approach you to be a ranch hand,

get a little share of the food that's produced. That's creative and that takes initiative and self responsibility because guess what, the the government doesn't have a online system that makes it easy to like, oh, I want to volunteer as a ranch hand and don't know that's on you. And just with a little creativity, you can find a lot of ways to improve your independence. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. You don't need to have money. And and then each step leads to the next step, so then it builds, right,

So good stuff. Um, you've so you've gone step after step after step starting with your m R. E. S. And now you have a ranch and now you're building that out. I saw you say something about one of videos you and maybe it was an off the cuff comment, but you said free range kids? So what is the free range kids? Yeah? Well, first you have to think what is the cage? What is the factory farm that children are oftentimes stuck in. I think public school system

would probably be part of that. UM controlled thinking could be a part of that. TV is part of the cage, but also physical constraints. You know, the house we used to live in had a nice backyard, but it was really small. And now, being very blessed to live on a ranch, I see my little boy just watching him. That's where the term came from. I was just observing it, like, oh, he's a free range kid, which means the child is naturally expressing its true nature. He's he's running up to

the trees. He can you know, the big yard. It's all fenced in so he can just roam. He's in the dirt, doing what a child is meant to do. And we don't have him stuck in front of the TV, caging in his mind, relying on something else for entertainment. That's getting to He's learning to generate his own entertainment out of his own being, curiosity, creativity. So that's basically

what I mean, I want to bring it up. I think it's so important and so again, Um, you mentioned before that maybe maybe we have to fight for freedom more now than we have before. I'm constantly using a quote from Ronald Reagan. He says that freedom is never more than one generation away from being taken it. It wasn't passed to us but in the bloodline, but it must be fought for by every single generation. And so, um,

I think about that the kids. It's all about the kids, right Like, I'm pouring back into the kids and making sure that they grew up the right way, making sure that they understand what's at stakes so they can continue to fight for freedom, because if we don't pass that down to them, then it's lost right there. And back to kind of what we were just talking about. Um, good job JP A years so rich. You can live on a ranch, But I'm stuck in an apartment in a city. What am I going to do? Well, we

have parks. You could get on a bus and get out out of town and you know, out of the city suburban like let them run around in a park, or like hiking trails, like I mean, everyone has these types of options. Yeah, it's just where are you at and what's the next best option? Not fifty options from now? You know, walk outside on the sidewalk. That's way more

free range than living room TV. It's maybe not the exact ideal true nature expression of a kid walking straightforward on the sidewalk, but it's way better than being in front of the TV or like the net. Next episode of the sidewalk, We're gonna go a few blocks or a couple of miles to the park where it's like much more three dimensional for the child to express. So, yeah, it's the only thing that can stop us from taking steps is us in our own excuses if we believe

what our lower self thinks. And I think maybe to kind of kind of wrap this up and kind of put this message of hope, kind of going back to what you said, we have the masses, we have God on our side. You know, their plans, I said, I injected, the plans don't will fail. But really I love your message of kind of like empowering yourself and becoming decentralized

first and fixing yourself first. And another thing I was kind of thinking about is we we have the masses, we have the power but um we have the power because at the end of the day, um Clap Schwab wants to promote this like public private partnership, which is uh fascism or corporatis um right, governments and corporations working together. But corporations actually serve people. They need us to buy

their products. I saw today this morning. I was looking through the news headlines and there's like another big um boycott or walk out happening, you know, and it's like the people can just not go work there, and the people can just not buy those products. And so I think there's massive hope there. So what what is your kind of message of hope? And they're closing words here that we have for everybody. Words from Oscar Wilder, which I love. First off, why Oscar Wilder says life is

too important to take seriously. So those are the people who are freedom lovers. They're taking action. If you do that and you're just serious all the time, seriousness, it's it's a symptom of fear. You you only take things seriously when there's an element of fear. Now I do that, I take things seriously. But if you're only doing that, you have to realize you're not living in a state of love. You're not living in a state of hope.

You're living in a state of fear. Granted, could be well intentioned fear, but Oscar Wilder's words, life is too important to take seriously. So for me, I always need the reminder looking around what's going on in the world and like, oh my god, there's some heavy stuff going on. But also not take it too seriously. That levity, I think helps helps let hope rise to the surface little easier. Another common denominator I found between hopeless people and people

filled with hope. Those who don't take action and contribute to the betterment of their lives and contribute to the betterment of lives around people. The inaction breeds hopelessness. But when you're taking action consistently, doesn't matter if it's small. It's like, dude, this is I'm raising my children in a freeway. Nobody else is going to see it, but

that's why I'm doing. Or your Mark Moss, you're putting out great content every week, reaching a lot of people, or you're anywhere in between taking action consistently, many of those people are way more filled with hope. Why because they're literally becoming the change they want to see in the world. But if you're never doing anything, you have no that insance something can change because you're not contributing to change. So people are who are contributing way more hopeful.

So if you feel hopeless, you have to ask what action can I start taking consistently because that, in my opinion, more powerfully than anything else. Not perspective or other information, but action consistently will help take your needle from hopeless too hopeful. I love it perfect way to end it too, I say action leads to clarity. So, um, if you don't know what action to take, just take any action

if you don't know, so just start doing something. Just eat a little better, sleep a little more, talk to your kids a little I mean does anything. Yeah, even just being more honest with your perspectives. You know we talked earlier about the people who are uh just kind of playing it safe in there a little bit vanilla.

It's don't be that like even like you're in the coffee shops, you run into a stranger, they bring up some pissing on the liberty of tyrants or pissing down the dreams of tyrants with my liberty but even just letting your your words still be respectful, but let your words just come from a place of truth rather than playing it safe and I'm afraid to offend people. That's a great contribution action to take. Yeah, awesome, um cool? Anything you want to bring attention to some of your

shows or anything that you're working on. Oh man, As much as I love to be self serving and promotion, you know, nothing special. But for anybody who wants to get in touch with me, you can check out my website a wake Up with JP dot com. Uh, there's my line of freedom merge with things like wearing those shirts is doing something because you'll spark something. You'll spark something. That's my intention. That's why I created the Freedom line of shirts because it's like, this is a thought out

of mine. It's honest, and if it can get in touch with at least one other person and help them unlock their permission to say like, oh that's what I think. And maybe now I can say it too because I saw it modeled by someone else. So anyway, you check out my website to wake Up with JP dot com if you'd like to get in touch with me, or check out anything I offer and we'll link at all in the notes. Thanks j P, Thank you Mark, appreciate

your brother. All right, that's a rap. Hopefully enjoyed this interview with m JP s Heres and you saw a different side of him. He's well known for his comedy. Here is a more serious side. You can see his passion and what his mission is. We're gonna link to a stuff down below. Don't forget to give him a follow. He's a freedom fighter, he's a truth teller, and he's doing his part to save the world. And hopefully you are as well. I'd love to hear about it. And

that's what I got. Thanks for listening to your success. I'm out