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Mark Moss (@1MarkMoss) is joined in studio by Jessica Vaugn (@JessicaVaugn) to discuss a recent hot topic called Mass Formation Psychosis. Touched on in an interview of Dr. Robert Malone on the Joe Rogan Podcast, Mark discuss how this relates to Bitcoin and how Bitcoin can actually help alleviate the issue presented in this situation.

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of The Markma Show, where we're talking about bitcoin and the decentralized revolution that is happening right now, right before us. Now. I try to bring to you a bunch of different areas about bitcoin,

because it's it's a big subject. You know. I've had many friends that have said, well, actually one friend, one friend said, explain bitcoin to me, like I'm five years old and in two minutes, and I said, I can't, Like, you can't get it, Like it's a deep, deep subject. I've been studying it for seven years and I'm still trying to figure it out, right because it's it's such a new technological revolution and it's literally going to change the entire world. And so you have to understand six

or eight different disciplines. UM. You have to understand, you know, finance, economics, monetary history, technology, game theory, philosophy, UM, game, you know, all these different things. One of the areas that I like to think about is um trying to kind of think about the future of where things go with bitcoin. We like to say, uh, a lot time people say bitcoin fixes this, right, bitcoin fixes bitcoin fixes everything, And we said that because if you can fix the money

you can fix the world. Um, there's been something going on in the news. It literally broke Google the other day and uh, it's called a mass formation psychosis. And if you're a fan of the Joe Rogan Show, which you probably are. I think he gets over like two hundred million downloads a month, Uh, then you probably heard

about it. That's why I broke the Internet. And I'm joining the studio today by my good friend Jessica Vaughan, who is a bitcoiner and she is also I believe, a psych major, so she's someone who is uh a good person to talk about this mass for formation psychosis. And I think, um, I had this revelation where I was listening to uh digging into this studying and understanding, and I think bitcoin fixes it, like it fixes everything as I want to talk about that. Jessica, thanks so

much for joining today. Well it's good to have you back state side again. Yeah, back in the US again. I've been living on a Caribbean island for the last year, which um has been pretty amazing. Actually I had a hard time adjusting for the first six months and I don't want to leave, but but but here I am back. But I know you're a huge Joe Rogan fan. Um, what I found very interesting, and obviously, being in media,

I've been paying attention to this. But um, CNN and MSNBC and ABC and blah blah blah, they consider themselves mainstream media. But I think Joe Rogan has kind of surpassed that. What do you think, Well, they've been doing everything they can to lose the good faith of the people, so um, of course we're going to find alternative means of getting our information. Yeah. I saw who was it?

I think it was Luke Gramin on Twitter the other day posted, Uh, who would have thought that after a decade of lying about Western weapons of mass destruction and lying about inflation, and lying about this and lying about that, who would have ever thought that they would lost their their viewers? Right? Um, Well, and they've dialed it up so much since I don't know, so yeah, and and they just continued to do that. I saw you probably saw on Twitter the other day too. It was kind

of going around. It was like this chart of like, uh, Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and like ranked all the main shows, and Joe Rogan was obviously, you know, massive at the top and then Tucker Carlson was number two, and then it was like the five, and then it was mostly like Fox stuff, and then you had like the CNN is like way down below that. That was the highlight of my week, was seeing that chart. Yeah, it was. It was. It was pretty amazing. And I

was looking. I was looking. It was probably a month ago, two months ago. I was looking at some of the ratings of some of the networks like CNN and Anderson Cooper the number one show was getting like seven hundred thousand views per episode or something like that. In five Male demo, he gets like a hundred and fifty thousand views, And I'm like, I get more views than that on my YouTube videos and I'm not even big. Um, Like Joe Rogan's getting two hundred million views. Um, that's mainstream.

That's great news about their credibility declining. Now most of their views are probably counted by people walking by in the airport seeing on the TV. But jumping back into the point at hand, By the way, you're listening to the markma show, We're talking about bitcoin, but it's gonna takes a long way to get there. Uh, we're talking about something a little bit different. Today, I'm in the studio with Jessica Van and we're talking about this mass

formation psychosis that Joe Rogan was talking about with. It was actually started by this doctor h Matteas Desmond, I believe I listened to him several months ago, and then Dr Peter mccola and then Dr Robert Malone both were on Joe Rogan talking about this, and UM, if you if you're not familiar with the topic, basically what it is is that the whole world appears to be kind

of not the whole world. A big majority of the world appears to be somewhat kind of brainwashed or I should say hypnotized, and regardless of facts or information, they're like unwilling to look at this. And UM, a lot of people go like, what the heck, can't can't they see what's going on? But they can't. And um, this happens, has happened many times throughout history. You know, I'm a

history buff. And one of the best examples would be back in uh in world at you know, Nazi Germany, and you would see all these people turning on each other and just like you know, villainizing each other, and then literally you know, the Holocaust was literally people were put into gas chambers, and I always asked myself, like, why would they just walk into a gas chamber knowing what was going to happen. But it was all part

of this mass psychosis. And so jess, I'll frame up what he says are like the conditions that created So one is that, um, there's a massive disconnect, so people are disconnected, and I would I guess you would agree that's probably never you know, disconnected, the level never seen before. Yeah, well, I mean in the lockdowns. Of course has ascerbated all the that division. It's the lockdowns, But I think it really started way before that. Um, I think that was

definitely put it into overdrive. But I think really I would say that started probably in the sixties, and probably in the sixties if I were to put my finger on it. Um, when um, political correctness started coming in. We went into the kind of free love thing. The nuclear family started getting broken down, religion started kind of going away, and all the values that you know, the American family and the American citizen had started to disappear.

And then we had this like shared sense of values that kept people together, kept people aligned because the media tells us that we align on sexual preference or orientation or race or gender or whatever, but we aligned on values. Wouldn't you agree, Oh definitely. But identity politics is of course a tool. Well it's a tool to divide. But my point is is when we all had shared values, we had this togetherness. And you know, we had World

War one, World War two, and Vietnam. We're together together together. But once we started breaking down those values, there's nothing to connect people anymore anyway. Uh, And so I think that's probably where it started, Um, you know, breaking down the family, breaking down religion, things like that. And then with political correctness, started trying to basically change everything that we knew. And then you know, technology I think definitely

kind of brought that on. We started probably relying on social media more as opposed to real life connections, which I've seen many studies on how that is has been detrimental. Well, even with language, we're so divided. Um, there's entire concepts that that the left and the right have separately that they don't even intersect with it all. And and then we fight with each other about you know, proper words and political correctness and these types of things. So so yeah, um,

we're definitely decoupled. Yeah, so we've we've had this. Um. So that's that's the first thing that has to happen for this mass psychosis is this disconnection. Right, people feel isolated alone, and uh with with social media that never never felt so alone, and then with with the COVID literally being locked in their houses and and being disconnected. The second thing that has to happen before you have

this mass psychosis. So when you think about this mass formation, it's really like I think about a crowd, like the madness of a crowd kind of thing. That's that's kind of what that word means. And so the second thing that has to happen is um, lack of sense of purpose. And so when you look at polls, you can see that you know, majority of people feel that there's no

meaning in their job. They don't understand what they're doing, they're they're not getting any kind of fulfillment, and people are just stuck in life without the sense of purpose anymore. There's no fulfillment. And uh, we've seen that trend kind of grow. It's been big. Um. By the way, you're listening to the Markma show, we talk about bitcoin. Today, we're talking about a mass formation psychosis. But I'm gonna tell you why I think bitcoin is the answer to

this mass formation psychosis. So I know we're talking about bitcoin, but I'm gonna bring this back together. You gotta stick with me. I guarantee you're gonna be interested. It's going to tell you a lot of what's going on. Um. I'm in the studio today with Jessica Vaughan. You can find her on Twitter at jess Van. You can find her on get her at Jessica Vaughan as well. You can find me at number one Mark Moss. Uh, I haven't got set up on getting yet. I've reserved my name.

But uh, if you if you're if you're on either one of those platforms, hit me up. We're talking about bitcoin and the mass formation psychosis, how it can solve it. We'll be back with more. Don't go away, all right, Welcome back. You are listening to the Mark Moas Show. We're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about cryptocurrencies and the decentralized revolution. We often say that bitcoin fixes this, and

when I say this, we mean everything. Um, because we see that if we can fix the money, you can fix the world. The world is under what we've been hearing about the last week or two with the Joe Rogan Show and Dr Peter mccola and Dr Robert Malone, under this mass formation psychosis, and I believe Bitcoin fixes this. I kind of had this revelation. So I'm in the studio with Jess von Um. She's the psych major here, so she's a little bit better equip to talk about

this than me. But it's interesting. So we're talking about the four conditions that have to be present for this to have and for this mass formation, which is basically the madness of the crowd. Everybody kind of falls into this trance. And so the first one was disconnected isolation. We talked about that. The second one is um no sense of purpose, and so we were talking about how people being pulled today just find there's no sense of purpose in their job. They're doing these mundane tasks and

they don't even know what that means. Free floating anxiety. Well, that's the third one, right, So the third one is then the free floating anxiety, and so what does that mean? So, uh, you know, in the old days, if I used to see a lion, I had massive anxiety on that lion, my adrenaline rush. But as soon as I ran away and I didn't have that lie anymore than my anxiety would go away. But today we have this unhinged, untethered,

this free floating anxiety. We don't know what we're anxious for, right, Yeah, Well, it ties back into number two about the sense of purpose purposelessness. People aren't designed to not have a reason to get up in the morning. Do you think those two go together, they're not separate. I do, well. I think I think that the um, the anxiety is downstream of of the lack of purpose. Well, and they probably all three pour into each other. Right, So when you're disconnected,

then you don't feel the sense of purpose. You have some sense of purpose, then you don't have the anxiety. Yeah, talk to anybody in the city. There's a lot of that. Yeah. You know, when I talked about earlier, um talking about how really the breakdown of society I think probably started really maybe back in the sixties, and a lot of it had to do with this breakdown of the nuclear family.

And um, when you're in a family, you especially if you think back on when you grew up on the farm, right for example, and everybody had a sense of purpose, like you got to milk the cows, you gotta go work the field, you gotta like work on the barn or whatever. Right, and we all have this like sense of purpose. We're all working together co optively, um, and

we're connected. So we're connected and we have a sense of purpose and we don't have any anxiety because everything is there kind of in front of us now in the future is so hard to project right now, it's hard to find um for people to find reasons to stay motivated because they're not sure. If everything is destable as then what are you working for? And you can't imagine a future that culture is working hard to bring you. And if you're in disagreement about what that happens to be,

then you lose confidence. Yeah. So yeah, they're downstream, so each one kind of spills into the next. So then we, uh, we're disconnected, lack of sense of purpose, and we have this free flow and anxiety. I think I saw a poll it was like, um, I think sixty of women are on some form of antidepressant. I think in the U S. Isn't that astonishing? It's massive, It's massive. I think one I think that goes to the point of this free flow and anxiety. Um. It also has something

to do with the fiat money, fiat medicine. Everybody's on every everybody's on pharmaceuticals these days as well. I think that that also, which which the Fiat money creating fiat medicine, is something that I think bitcoin fixes and we'll talk about how we get out of this mass like coasts with bitcoin, we get back to that. But I think that shows that there is this this free flow and

anxiety as well. Of course, um, you know today, um, the media and really probably in the last five or six years maybe, um, the media is really keyed into what we call fear porn, right where they're just basically trying to show us they they found that we're more engaged on social media if they show us things that make us scared or mad. Isn't that so predatory? Yeah?

It is, it is, right, So instead of showing us pictures of puppies that make us feel warm and fuzzy, we actually get more and more likely to comment on something that makes me mad. Then I am on something that makes me happy. So great for culture and cohesion. Yeah, Um, you know what it is is it's um. I I want to say, it's not anybody's fault. It's misaligned incentives.

That's the problem. And bitcoin fixes that. We're gonna come back to how it fixes those incentives, but it's it's the missaligned incentives, right, And so this fiat money system creates all types of misaligned incentives, and that being one of them. Where now these the companies show us things that make us scared or angry or mad just to get more media and then lock you in your homes and make sure that you can't go out and you know, playing the sunshine and so that you have to do

nothing but take in more of that information. Yeah. So there's there's that. There's that too. I saw um jumping jumpy topics real quick. Uh. I know we've both been down to El Salvador and checked out Bitcoin, Bitcoin Central, Bitcoin uh country as they call it down there, and Bitcoin Beach. And what's interesting is once you start interacting

with bitcoin, um, how it changes your life. And the president bouqua Ley has you know, they adopted bitcoin there and it looks like it's literally changed him by I don't know him personally, but by what he's tweeting and the other day they put out a video of people getting healthy, like actually exercising and eating like vegetables, and they said, hey, the best way to beat this is prevention, like get healthy, and it was like, that was the

first time we've seen that official narrative anywhere on the planet ever, Like, who would have thought that maybe you should try when we're in like this period of everyone getting sick, that we should actually work on like being more healthy. Who would have thought? Um, So that was that was interesting to see him and how Bigcin has fixed that is changing that. But back to the mass formation psychosis and so uh so it's it's one was the conditions were one disconnected to lack of purpose, three

free flow and anxiety. And then the fourth one is what happens is the catalyst and it's somebody a leader comes along and says, this is the reason for the mass or the free flowing anxiety. This is so now you can focus on one thing and everybody come with me and we'll fix it. It's like the pied Piper introduces faucism. Yeah, I mean, it's it's expertism experts, right, um, they asked Desmond. Dr Desmond I was listening to actually Malone, mccola and Desmond were talking last night and they said,

who is this leader? And he said, well, it's it's the experts, it's the experts. So they didn't they they didn't name one person like that because it's vaucies in the US, but every country kind of has their own faucie, I suppose. But it's the leaders, right, It's it's the leaders. And it's kind of reminds me of that pipe piper, where everybody's willing to follow them because they've identified the problem and they can lead me to somewhere different that

solves that. Yeah, and everybody wants a hero when they can't make sense of what's happening in the world and getting all these conflicting messages, so everybody's trying to you know, export they're thinking, yeah, and the Fiat money system has got everything so complicated that everybody knows there's something wrong, but they can't they can't put their finger on it. They don't know what it is. And and uh, you know a lot of media makes us the victim culture.

Well it's because you're a victim, you know, or whatever, and so everybody's like looking for the reason. But this comes along where like the leader says, this is it and I can lead you to the Promised Land and everybody, everybody kind of joins in. Well, that was the only way. That type of social pressure is the only way to make other people conform that are busy, you know, living their lives and not conforming to the mass formation psychosis. Now, Um,

you're listening to the markma Show. We are talking about bitcoin, but we're talking about this mass formation psychosis that was broke the Internet, um, with Dr Malone and Dr mccolla talking about it on the Joe Rogan Show. Um, just in the last week or two. Um. Literally when I say broke the Internet, I mean broke the internet. Google couldn't keep up with the search results for this mass formation psychosis. Um. But I'm gonna bring it back to bitcoin.

So we talked about what sets it up. Now we're going to talk about how do we come out of it, and how is bitcoin specifically coin to fix it. It's amazing. Don't go away. I'm gonna be right back, all right, Welcome back. You are listening to the Mark Moa Show,

and we're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about the decentralized revolution, and we are talking about something that is not really about Bitcoin at first, clients, we're talking about something called the mass formation psychos This it literally broke Google the other day after Joe Rogan hosted both Peter McCollough first and then Dr Robert Malone, and they both talked about this UM and we're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about

mass promotions, mass formation psychosis. And the reason why it's because we say bitcoin fixes this bit Bitcoin fixes everything. If you fix the money, you fix the world, and it even fixes this. So we went over UM. Basically the four conditions that create this. One people are disconnected to there's no sense of purpose. Three, there's unhinged h anxiety. And then finally forth a leader emerges to lead people into a new system. Now I'm joining the studio today

with Jessica Vaughan. You can find her on Twitter at Jessica Vaughan. And uh, she's a psych major, so she's one someone that's probably a little more qualified to talk about this than I am. So we're talking about that. So these four conditions emerged, we went through that, and now this leader emerged that was the experts UM and and these people have basically gone into this this mass formation psychosis, which is like the madness of the crowds UM. Now.

Dr Desmond matteas Deadman who put this together. He talked about like I think, um, thirty of the people fall into this type of hypnosis if you will, and then about kind of are in the middle, kind of just go along with it and then resisted something that something like that. So you have these group of people. So basically the thing is is that these people there, they're in this kind of hip hypnosis thing, which is interesting. On a side note, it must have been a year ago.

I was listening to a podcast and uh it was some people that do NLP neural linguistic programming, which is something that Tony Robbins has talked about for a long time. Are you familiar with n LP. So n LP is is a way that you structure words um in order to get certain emotions or get reactions out of people. And so marketers typically marketers use this and they're trying to invoke emotions. It gets you to buy or something

like that. So Tony Robbins is like the big NLP practitioners, so they have this NLP practitioners and then you can be certified and become like a master practitioners. So there's these master practitioners on this podcast and they were saying how the media was literally using NLP techniques on people to to brainwash them, to hypnotize them. And they made the case and they gave all kinds of examples. I

don't remember off top of my head. Some one of the examples is when you constantly repeat something over and over and over, which is exactly what this mass formation is. When they continue to pound these numbers, these metrics, these fear things into your head. Um well, you can almost predict what people are going to say. People that listen to the media, you can you can um trigger the conversation with just bringing bringing up a subject and know

exactly what they'll say. It's like, oh, because Anderson Cooper told them that's what they're supposed to think or how to feel about these sorts of things, and it just triggers them and you know what they're gonna say. Some of it though, like, uh, I love Henry Ford has some good some good quotes. One of the things he said is that thing king too such hard work, that's

why so few people do it. And if you think about it biologically, I'm wondering where you think about the psychologically, But biologically, UM, thinking use a lot of brain power, and our body is always trying to conserve energy, and so we put a lot of things into habits, and so a lot of times the human human body, you know, you have the different difference of the conscious of the subconscious, and we're trying to run things on habit and on autopilot.

And maybe that's one reason why we default more to um residing headlines without thinking about it. Carl Young has a similar quote, UM to that forward quote that you just said, Um, that thinking is hard. That's why most people judge, and that his use of judging was a

little different than our conventional use. But defaulting to these presumptions that we have about things that are more firm in our minds than they ever should be, like you have to you have to approach things with nuance like and and a lot of people don't have that, um, you know, kind of critical thinking ability, especially not when they're being programmed with force of the state behind it to take a narrative that they're not, you know, And

then everybody wants to outsourcers thinking and say, well, I'm not an expert, of course, I'll just listen to the experts. Well, that never was supposed to lobotomize your brain from considering that your views and what your own eyes show you. I love what you said there about most people don't take the time to think about the nuance everybody wants

to think. I hate to say the word everybody. I get about five thousand comments that week across all my social media platforms, so I get a pretty good sample size. But I see everybody has this very rigid thinking where it's like there's no inflation, or there is inflation, or there is this, there isn't that, And it's like, dude, there's all kinds of nuance in this right And so a lot of times you'll find some of the details there. But so the media has been using this NLP, which

also kind of brainwashes us or or um. What happens is they can get through our our conscious and get into our subconscious and then we don't we don't really think about it um. And so basically that when when you think see things going on today and you're like that doesn't make any sense, Like how can people agree to that? Like there's there's no rational way that anyone could think that. Um, but this is why, because they're

not thinking that, they're just doing that. But but here's the other piece, the other pieces that in this mass formation psychosis, people fall into what's called rituals. And so whenever you have cults or things like that, people do rituals. And it could be in religions. I mean there's all different types of things like that, clubs or whatever, and people do these rituals and a lottimes, these rituals from an outsiders perspective are completely ridiculous, like that makes no sense.

But they do these rituals to be part of the club and to show like their own sacrifice for being in that right initiation rituals. Yeah, and just and but but it also makes sense, right because if one of the components that leads to this is that there's no connectedness, then it makes sense that when everybody, the mass formation, the crowd comes together, they want the connectiveness and in order to be connected, they have to align on something. But also they show these rich they do these rituals

to show that they're in the crowd. Well, it's also the politicization of everything like you you know, and now flying a flag in your yard means that you're you know, a mega person type of thing. To where is even that wasn't that wasn't that, there wasn't not this divide. So there's that, and then and then there's the there's the censorship going across every platform. So Dr Robert Malone, Um, he's one of very instrumental in the technology of the m R and a vaccine. He has patents on it.

Maybe he's not the only guy, but he you know, he was involved in it. And Twitter recently kicked him off over half a million followers there, Yeah, what a blessing to go on Rogan the next day. Um. But but then of course YouTube did you see YouTube censored? The videos took him down for his for Malone on on Rogan talking about making that parallel about what happened in you know, twenties and thirties. But so in that mass information psychosis, nobody wants to hear anything that goes

against that. And um, the one thing that I would take take out of this too is that a lot of times we think that you know, all these policymakers or leaders or whatever we want to call them, I don't. I try not to use the word elite anymore. They're definitely not elite. I wouldn't hire any one of them to work in my business at all. But they're whatever

politicians but partners, yeah what Yeah, partners for sure. But one thing is, like you think of them, maybe some people think of them as like evil or doing these things out of out of malice or malevolence, but really they're probably all just caught up in the same mass echosis as well, which is interesting. Um, But Okay, So now that we've kind of set the stage and kind of where we're at with that, now we'll transition to how do we come out of this mass formation psychosis

and how does bitcoin fix this? And I think it gives me a great hope for bitcoin be because bitcoin is in this unique position that I think could actually fix this. And I know, I know we throw that around literally because we say bitcoin can fix everything, but but we literally can. Now, if you think about one of the conditions or one of the things that really lead to the condition of people being disconnected and no purpose or whatever is really centered in this fiat money

system that we have today. And so because of this fiat money system, it's harder for people to work. Um, so now people have to work longer hours and multiple jobs and it's caused this breakdown. And now because we have all this fake money in the system, than people can go into career academia and think tanks and they don't have to live in a real world, and then they come up with these crazy as policies that don't

mean anything. And so really it's the fiat money system that's created all the conditions that lead us into that, and people need to be led out into something else. I'm gonna explain what that is and explain how Bitcoin could be that thing, and how this could actually be one of the big turning points for bitcoin as well, and really what I'd rather say as a sound money system. You're listening to the Markma Show. We're talking about bitcoin

in a long, roundabout way. We're talking about a mass formation psychosism in the studio with Jessica Vaughan talking about this, and when we come back, we are going to talk about the four steps to come out of this and how bitcoin fixes this. Don't go away, all right, welcome back. You are listening to the Markma Show. We're talking about bitcoin and uh, we always talk about bitcoin. We talked

about this decentralized revolution. I'm in the studio with Jessica Vaughan and uh we're talking about bitcoin in a long, round about way and so uh, it's hard, hard to get just a lot of things. Um, we're talking about a mass formation psychosis, which is the whole world is seeming seemingly not the whole world, A majority of the the world is seemingly hypnotized. Um, and they're not taking in

new information, rational information. Um. And so we set up how that is the three factors or the four factors of how that that's caused. We talked about, um, what's going on in that situation, and now we're talking about there's four steps to get out of it and and how bitcoin fixes this in my opinion, So, um, the four things are. One is that we need people to

speak the truth. So uh. In this breakdown by Dr Desmond, he talks about how you know, not everybody's wrapped up in it, but but a big chunk of the population is. And so the people that aren't need to be able to speak the truth. Of course, that's very difficult when

you're being censored and shut down. Well, that ties into the you know, the big tech monopolies going on, because they they edited, of course, the Google search results when people started, you know, by the by the millions looking up mass formation psychosis like and why does somebody get to do that? Well, the FIAT system is of course a big part of the reason why Google gets to

do that and edit everybody's excess to information. And isn't I don't know about their section to thirties status, but um, don't they lose their safe faith and status if they're literally manipulating search results. I mean that's what they blame it on the algorithm. You now, they're manually going in and yeah, I mean I saw that they had evidence of it, and people were like taking screenshots and you

could see it happening in real time. Um, there's a quote and I don't know who says that, and I should know who says the quote because I say it all the time. But ripping a man's tongue out does not prove him wrong. It only proves you have something to hide. So I always think about that in terms of sensorship. But um, so the first thing is we have to speak the truth. So um, I liked I've been talking about this a lot. Something I've been studying quite a bit. Actually a channel that you turned me

onto on YouTube, Academy of Ideas. Yes, one of my favorite creators. I've binge watched all that stuff. I love it. And he talks about this all the time. And really he talks about um coming out of you know, Communist Russia, and uh it was Soultchanischev who wrote the Gulag Archipelas and Hovel who became the Czecholist Lavakian president. It was through their writings that really turned the tides and it kind of broke that down. And he talks about how

it just takes somebody to live in the truth. And that's what Dr Desmond is talking about. How we break this mass psychosis is by speaking the truth. And so while all these people are living over there like living this lie, we can be over here living in the truth. And they're gonna go, wait, wait a minute, like why are like, like I just spent um, I just spent a week in Miami and it's like a couple weeks ago and everybody's like, I was there for Art Basil

Week was packed. Yeah, it was Art Basil Week and Uh, I mean it was just parties everywhere, packed bumper to bump er, you know, rubbin and shoulders. Did you spot AOC? She was there after me. Luckily I didn't have to see her. But everybody was like living normal. But like meanwhile, in like New York, it's a totally different reality. Yeah. Ron de Santis just said somewhere that, um, you would be surprised at all the lockdown politicians that came to

Florida for a break from that, and it's absurd. Yeah, So like they were, they're living the truth. And so when people like AOC go, wait a minute, they're living a different life in truth, like I should go there and she did, okay that step and never want to speak. The truth to um is that we need to bring people together, all right, So if people are feeling disconnected,

we need to bring people together. Now we have all these different people, uh in camps that you're familiar with, like libertarianism or anarchism or it scares me when you say people in camps. Now you know mass formations yea, yeah, yeah, well but but different areas or sectors or whatever, right Conservatives and Republicans and libertarians and all these different people individualism and blah blah blah blah blah. Um. But they're all like in camps and they're all these like ice islands.

And bitcoin is this like bridge. It's a bridge. It's like a uniting force that's like bringing all these people together because on their own like libertarianism or or anarchism or never. Like it's a great idea, but how did that actually happen? But bitcoin is the actual tool. Well, it solves so many problems. It's just great glue between these people that can't necessarily see what their commonalities are.

But because it solves so many problems, it can be a solution for a lot of people all over the globe. And um, I mean it again. We we align on values and so it brings all these people different sexes, religions, races, sexual orientations, whatever, but it brings them all together on shared values. And as a matter of fact, shout out to the Bitcoin Conference two is going to be in Miami. I believe in April. I'm going to be there. Jessica

is going to be there. Um, if you want to save ten percent on your tickets, go ahead and use Hello Jessica. I believe. Yeah, Jessica. Hello, Jessica, Hello. Sorry, so shout out for that. So if you want to come to the Bitcoin conference, there's gonna be about thirty five thousand people. Thoud people is like the largest like conference in the nation. Maybe, um, So if you want to come, we're both going to be there, safe temper ccentery tickets used. Jessica Hello, Um. But anyway, thirty people

coming together on shared values. So that's bringing people together. So that's the second part. Um. The third part here's the here's the really important part um. This is the most important part, is that people were unhappy with where they were, which is why they're happy to follow this

pied piper into a new reality. Now, of course, World Economic Forum has one for us called the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution, where we're gonna merge man and machine and we're gonna live in this dystopia with central bank currencies and uh, social credit scores, which doesn't sound good to me, trans humanism, utopia all that, and I know it sounds crazy, but what I say is I take them at their word, like literally, go read

their book. Clausha wrote a book called the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Just go read it. This is what he says, um, I don't like that world, but this is where they're taking us. And so people are caught up in this massycosis and there's like, okay, shoot, I guess we'll just go along. So what we can't do, per Dr Desmond, the doctor's prescription for this is not to say, hey, hey, hey, this is no good. Let's hold the line and stay where we were. They don't want to stay where we works.

They didn't like it. What we have to do is with the elite, and that's what I've been guilty of. Hold the line, don't comply, don't write. But no, he says, no, we need to lead them somewhere else that solves the problems that they do have. And what are the problems that they have? All the problems were started because of

the Fiat money system. So bitcoin is bringing people together on shared values, and it can take us into a new system, into a new paradigm that gets rid of the money printer, that gets rid of the source of all these problems. I think it's pretty amazing me too.

I try so hard to articulate my arguments as to why the people that have always been in power they're offering you this beautiful solution, Well, you might want to consider that they're really just re re rigging the game to ensure that they have a luck on their power going forward with the technological opportunities that in the Internet and bitcoin, um, decentralized finance, all these things presents two individuals to opt out of the system, and they of

course don't want definance. It's it's interesting to me, UM. We're a lot of people that I've talked to on both sides of the aisle um, left or right or whatever you have, do you want to divide that? A lot of times we see the same problems, but the solutions are different. And so we both see that the central planners have created the problems. But some people think that giving them more power and controls the answer, Which

how does that make any sense? Like it's obviously not the that's the problem, But that's that's because they're they have, of course all these avenues to um displace the blame and blame it on other people or you know, certain presidents, this type of thing to displace all of that, when when really there's just so many layers to reality it's hard to peel all those back. For people when they we don't have a common um starting point, especially when

all our the authorities we listen to are so different. Yeah. Yeah, good point. And then the fourth and final step in the doctor's prescription for the mass psychosis is don't fight. So, um, we don't wanna use violence. We don't want to fight, because what that does is that only UH focuses their angst, focuses their attention. Even more, it legitimizes the idea that you are the enemy exactly exactly, So we want to

speak out of love, out of truth. And Dr Robert Malone He's like, I'm not a religious man, but I can just see how like the teachings of Jesus really were the key to this because it was like speaking the truth, speaking it out of love, showing a different way, all of those things, etcetera. Um. So, anyway, those are the four steps to do that. I think bitcoin can be the tool that brings us out of it. You

listen to the Markma Show. We're talking about bitcoin in a long, roundabout way, talking about the mass formation psychosis in the studio with Jessica Vaughan. You can find her on Twitter and get her at Jessica Vaughan. Of course, I'm one. Mark Moss, that's it. Thanks so much for listening.

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