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Speaker 1

When Wara's peace and everything we know is backwards, how do we even know what truth is?

Speaker 2

Well, they say that history is written by the victor.

Speaker 1

It sort of means that whoever tells you the story can give you whatever definition of that story that they want. However, somewhere in between both sides of the story lies the truth. And I want to get to that. And I think if you open your mind, you think about things critically, you can start to see that I'm talking about what just happened down in South America that is a shining example to the entire world of exactly what could happen with almost a snap of a finger if we so wanted.

What am I talking about exactly? We're talking about President Bukeley of El Salvador, who was just re elected as president with overwhelming numbers. And when I say overwhelming numbers, I mean overwhelming numbers. Let's just put this into perspective. We're going into an election cycle here in the United States. We have president, the current president, Joe Biden, with less than a thirty percent approval rate in less than thirty percent of the people like the president, which I don't

even see how it's that high. However, that's what it is now. A lot of those people just finally blindly vote down party lines, I suppose. But that's just on the Democratic side. On the Republican side, it's not much different. We have, I guess, at this point, the top Republican contender to Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, who just got beat by nobody in the Nevada primary. What I mean nobody. They literally wrote on the ballot none of these people, and that god, I believe, like sixty six percent of

the vote. So she literally got beat by nobody. So it's happening on both sides. And it's no wonder in the United States. I just saw today the American people trust and support the government twenty percent. Only twenty percent

of Americans trust or support the government. And it's no wonder why the country's fallen part a. Crime is at all time highs, tax at all time highs, the debt is astronomical, inflation is rising, and no matter what it seems the people want, the leaders in Congress, the Senators,

the congressman, etc. They don't seem to care. As a matter of fact, they continually tell us that misinformation, malinformation, White Christian nationalists are the biggest problem that we have, But yet most people are concerned.

Speaker 2

About the immigration problem.

Speaker 1

They continue to tell us that Ukraine or Israel is our biggest concern, but yet most people are worried that they can't afford their bills. And at a time when we're worried that we can't even afford our bills, and we're worried about the situation down at the border, they just decide to Ramrod and inflate a border security bill through which basically did nothing to secure the border, but instead gave ninety six billion dollars to Ukraine, Israel, and

Hamas in that bill. What you're hearing it was. In my opinion, it was a tool. And I don't want to go on about this bill, but I believe this bill was just a political tool for the election. They wanted to throw this bill, which they called a border security bill, and it was so bad. It was worse than what we have now, which is nothing. It was worse than what we even have now, which of course it got shot down. Of course it did like there's no way that could ever be approved. But now President

Biden can run. As he said just on TV, I didn't pull the clip for this, but he said that he is going to talk about that NonStop from now until November. How Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans decided they didn't want border security, but that's not what it really was. And we know that because all of the money, if you took time to dig into this, all that money was earmarked to go, like I said, to Ukraine,

Israel and Hamas. Now as that bill was shut down, they decided, well, let's just go and give the money to them anyway and said no, I think ninety six.

Speaker 2

Billion or ninety eight billion is going to them.

Speaker 1

So at a time when public interest is done, we don't care about Ukraine anymore.

Speaker 2

We have our own problems. We want the or secure.

Speaker 1

We don't want inflation to continue raging. But what are they gonna do. They're gonna print another one hundred billion dollars and give it to other countries. And when we give to other countries, let me just think about this. For example, the money going to Ukraine.

Speaker 2

Is gone. I mean, Ukraine is not winning the war.

Speaker 1

The money going to Israel. Israel has a lower debt to GDP than the United States does.

Speaker 2

Why does that go?

Speaker 1

So it's no wonder that the people in America don't support the government. Now back to the topic at hand, we're witnessing something very interesting. We're witnessing a bright spot. It's one of the many signs that constantly points to that shows that the pendulum of the world is swinging back and forth. And of course that's President Bouquet lead down in El Salvador. Now, he's done nothing short of

a miracle. I mean, the way that he's been able to turn the country around is nothing short of a miracle. It should literally be in textbooks and every leader, every politician in every city, every county, every state, every country should be paying attention to exactly what he's done. I'm gonna break it down for you. But he was just re elected. When I say it was just re elected, I'm going to give you the whole backstory. You can

understand this. I was recently speaking at a conference up in Vancouver and went out to dinner the first night of the event and somebody said, Mark, what's going on in El Soebigny to do?

Speaker 2

Pay attention?

Speaker 1

What do you think about Bouchayley? And let's say that I've done a little bit more research. I'm a little bit more educated than it was at that point. So I'm gonna break it down for you, but let's just

give you the highlights for a minute first. So Boukayley has done a lot of things which turned the most dangerous country in the world to the safest country in the world in record time, at a time when violence is sweeping across the United States are once you know, beautiful cities I've now turned into homeless encampments with NonStop theft happening all the story. As a matter of fact, I don't really go to the store, but my wife does. My wife is telling me how even here. I didn't

realize this. I thought it was going to happen in the cities. But even in our stores here, like everything's locked up, and what an inconvenience it is for her that she can't see the inventory that she wants. She has to get somebody to come unlock the cabinets for all the time. I mean, this is the state where it ran. We saw just this week in Oakland we have in and out Burger had to close down. I mean, shops are closing down, restaurants are closing down because of

the violence. Apple stores are getting raided, non stop. But yet here we have the most dangerous country in the world flipped to be the most the safest country in the world. Now, he had to do a lot of things. I want to document this for you. We'll go through it, but I just want to set this up. He had to go through some extraordinary measures in order to get this done, and so of course the whole world looked

at him like he was some authoritarian. And I guess the saying is hard times create strong men, and that's exactly what happened. Elsavor has gone through some extremely hard times and it needed a strong man to come up and do something about it. Now, if you understand that I've talked about that many times, it's from the Fourth Turning. It's also known as generational theory, which is basically, hard

times create strong men. Strong men create great times, but then great times create weak men, and weak men create hard times, and then it starts over. And if you think about this, think about the weak men that we have, like Joe Biden, think about the weak men that we have like Justin Trudeau or Macron or any of these

new leaders. If you will, think about these weak men and the times they've created, the hard times that we've created and then look at somebody like El Salvador's President Bukeley, who steps up and is a hard man, a strong man, and it took strong results. And so it's no wonder that the rest of the world looks at them and says, oh, how dare they do something like this? And so Bookeley to address this, he decided, Hey, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna step down out of power because it would

be understandable. It's understandable, but it's typically the way it goes, sort of an evolution that once somebody gets powered, I don't want to let go of it, and they continue to centralize that power sty have more and more of it, and they do become a dictator. It's certainly a risk, and this is something I discussed at the dinner a few weeks ago. It's certainly a risk that he could do that now. He's not there now, but it certainly

a risk. So in order to sort of put that rumor to rest, he decided that he would step down, remove himself from office, and then see if the people wanted him back, and he would go through a democratic election.

Speaker 2

And that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1

And that's sort of the topic of this conversation right now, is that he just won in the biggest landslide in the history of representative governments, at least as far as I know, and the media isn't even talking about it. So suppose at a time when democracy, democracy, democracy, we're trying to protect democracy by shutting down access to information

and free speech. We're trying to promote democracy like in Ukraine, which is probably the even bigger dictator country than El Salvador was, at a time when it's democracy, democracy, democracy, we literally watched democracy play out.

Speaker 2

We watched the leader step.

Speaker 1

Down, have an election and won by the biggest landslide and history of representative governments. And like I said, it's completely blacked out by the military.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

Part of the reason why I believe is because they don't want you to see that this is possible. He won by locking up criminals and thugs. Interesting, he won by cleaning up his country. He won by, you know, trying to do right by the people. I'm going to break all this down for you, but I'm setting this up a little bit. Winning by eighty five percent of the vote, which is just amazing, but of course people

are calling him a threat to democracy. If you're just tuning in, you listening to the Mark mass Show, we're breaking down the bright spot in the world that demonstrates how the world is changing and.

Speaker 2

For the better. It's the message of hope, don't go away, He'll be back, all.

Speaker 1

Right, Welcome back. If you're just tuning in your listening to the Mark Moss Show, we're talking about what just happened down in Central America. That is the model for the world. Like I said, every single politician, whether it's your city council, your county, your state, or you're a government leader, country leader, you should be paying attention. However, they're paying attention, but they're trying to bury it because

they don't want you to understand what happened. And as I said, we're basically talking about how President Buchayley was able to turn the most dangerous country in the world into one of the safests. So he just got reelected overwhelming vote eighty five percent, like the biggest sweeping, you know, democratic election that we've seen. But yet people are calling

him a threat to democracy, which is pretty interesting. We saw ilmar Ohan, you know, one of the people from the squad on the extreme far left, who's from Samoya. I believe it's like her husband is one of the main politicians in Samoya. Go ahead and google it. Samalia is one of the most corrupt and most dangerous countries in the world.

Speaker 2

And she is on.

Speaker 1

The news over the last couple weeks talking about how everything she's doing is for Samoya, how she's trying to get Samoia to have influence in the United States, all of these things, and then she went and got support to file emotion against what else Salvorder is doing because they're a threat to democracy. So you start to see what's going on. Of course, the left, anything they say, it's

always going to be the opposite. When they say it's a border of security bill, it's not a border security bill. When Biden passed the Inflation Reduction Act, it was actually to create more inflation. That's the way it works, and that's exactly what's happening here. But anyway, this election happened. It had massive amount a sea of people out front cheering him on to see him take this acceptance, and a couple of quotes that I saw him talking about

in this speech. It was obviously translated. I'm not fluent in Spanish, but a couple of things that he talked about.

Speaker 2

He said that.

Speaker 1

He said that he was able to take El Salvador from the most dangerous country in the world to the safest in the entire Western hemisphere. I think Luxembourg is about as safe as El Salvador now, so in the entire Western hemisphere now.

Speaker 2

He said.

Speaker 1

In response to people calling him a dictator, he said that he placed honest citizens' rights over the criminals.

Speaker 2

Hmmm.

Speaker 1

That's a novel concept, isn't it, especially in today when we have, especially in California, but also in New York and other very very blue states, we have basically no criminal punishment. You can steal up to one thousand dollars. Pretty insane. I mean, we're releasing violent criminals every single day because you know, we don't want to make them feel bad about themselves, and you know, we have to respect their rights. But Bouqueta says, what about the rights

of the honest citizens that are working hard. Shouldn't their rights matter more than criminals? And of course I'm preaching to the choir. Of course you say that. But for a politician to come out and say that it just makes sense, right, Bucley said, I've talked to all the other international organizations, I've talked to the other government officials. He said, why do they want them.

Speaker 2

To kill us?

Speaker 1

Why do they want these violent criminals to kill us? Why do you want to see the people of Savador's blood spilled? And of course they don't. Look nobody wants that. The people, the immigrants that have come to the United States from some of these war torn countries wanted to get away from the violence. Nobody wants to live like that.

Speaker 2

And I if.

Speaker 1

You use a rational mind, you if you ask yourself why these policies are put in place when nobody in their right mind wants them. Unfortunately, there's only a conclusion that you can come to that's not a good one, and it's because actually it's actually bookay Lee was on Tucker Carlson, maybe it was about a year ago, and he said that quote, the demise of the USA has to come from within. No external enemy can cause so

much damage as an internal operation. He continued, I am from a third world country, and I see cities in the US where I wouldn't want to live. Now, when you see cities in the US eroading so fast, this has to be by design, That's what he said. This is from Bookayley, who turned his country a one eighty in the opposite direction, which, of course they don't want you to see. Now, what happens when that happens, Well, it turns out that all of a sudden people are happy.

It turns out that now all of a sudden, people have hope, and there's energy, and now they're starting to provide value to each other's starting to build businesses. It turns out kids are now going to schools instead of entering gangs. It looks like now we're building them an educated class to take El sovereign to the next level. What happens when that happens, Well, now we're seeing massive

amounts of investment capital coming into El Salvador. As a matter of fact, Moody's rating said election results in El Salvador indicate approval of President Bukeley's anti crime agenda, and it's a positive credit rating. So Moody's is downgrading the credit of the United States, and they're upgrading the credit of El Salvador.

Speaker 2

Do you see what's happening?

Speaker 1

Of course, no country can survive without law and order, nobody wants to live in that. Nobody can build a life, nobody can build their private property. No one can build a business. Some one can build a family unless there's law and order.

Speaker 2

There has to be. It just makes sense, all right.

Speaker 1

Now, let's dig in and see exactly how he did this. I came across this article called Bukeley's War for Peace. It was written by Benjamin Braddock just a couple of days ago. Here. It's pretty interesting. So if we go back a couple of points that I want to pull out here. In twenty nineteen, that's when Boukayley took over as president of l Salvador, and at the time he

came into a staggering challenge. I mean, the country was in ruins, the most dangerous country in the world, as he's saying, and he had only been in office for a month. The countries in shambles, and all of a sudden, the country was put into international headlines because a Salvadoras father and his daughter were trying to get into the United States and they drowned.

Speaker 2

In the Rio Grande trying to get in.

Speaker 1

Now, immigration activists all over we're saying, you know how dare the US make it so hard and this tragedy. It's all Trump's fault for endagering migrants. You know, we should allow the asylum seekers to get in easier. It's Trump's fault all these things. Now, that's what Pauls typically do. They try to shift the blame to somebody else. But Bouquet Lee did the opposite. He said, quote, we can speak blame to any other country, but what about our own blame? I mean, what country did they flee? Did

they flee the United States? No, they fled Al Salvador. They fled our country. It's our fault.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 1

You see the first step to change in your life is to take responsibility for it. As long as you're continuing to blame other people and push the blame onto somebody else, you're never going to get the growth. And as a brand new president who just took over and shouldn't even take responsibility for that, he's not the one that brought that country to that stage over one hundred years or whatever it took to get there. But yet

he took responsibility. He said, why would we blame Trump or the United States or any other country?

Speaker 2

What about us? Why did they leave?

Speaker 1

Our own country. It's pretty amazing, and that is what a real leader does. Like I said, he could have blamed anybody else for this. All right, So this was in twenty nineteen. This article is great. We'll link it to it in the show notes down below. It talks a lot about how the gangs and how the violence got so bad in El Salvador and hand hint hint.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's because the United States.

Speaker 1

These Al Salvador gangs grew in Los Angeles. They continue to get worse and worse and worse. They grew through the prison system and then they all got exported and shipped right down to El Salvador. So the United States fostered them, culturedom allowed them to grow, allowed them to become the most dangerous, bloodthirsty and yes, even a Satanic gang. They did lots of Satanic rituals and sacrifices and things like that.

Speaker 2

But it was in the US that they grew.

Speaker 1

In the US that, like I said, they were cultured and grown, and then they were exported and sent right down to El Salvador.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 1

So that's where we're at. If you're just tuning in listening to the Mark Mass show. I'm talking about one of the most one of the biggest turnarounds that we've seen in any country, and it is a bright spot. What happens is you're typically looking for things that work, and you do more of those, and you look for things that don't work and you do less of those.

Speaker 2

That's typically the way that it works.

Speaker 1

However, in the United States we seem to be doing the opposite. But Elsavador is given us a picture of the way forward. I'll be back with more after a very short break.

Speaker 2

Don't go away, We're back, all.

Speaker 1

Right, Welcome back. If you just tune in, you're listening to the Mark Mass Show. I'm always talking about the way the world is changing, how the world is decentralizing, how the grip of centralization or globalism is being broken. We look out through the lens of politics, finance, and technology, and this story that we're talking about today is a perfect example of how the world is changing right now

in front of us. And while things look dark and scary and i we're definitely going in the wrong direction and lots of places, there's lots of places that are going in the right direction and give us massive amounts of hope and so you know, they say it's always darkest before the dawn, and unfortunately, I think there's still more pain ahead, specifically in the West, and partly because what I said in the beginning with the generational theory,

hard times create strong men. That's what's happening in El Salvador. We're still in the last stage what would be called the fourth turning, which is bad times or bad weak men created bad times. Anyway, back to the story down here. So twenty fifteen was the year that El Salvador attained the status as the most dangerous country in the world, and it was also the year that Mukayley was elected as the mayor of San Salvador, San Savador being one of the biggest cities there. By the way, I'm going

out to El Salvador in about a month. If he'd love to come down and see me. I'm going to put a link in the show notes down below. We'll ahead and put that down there. You should come check it out. But anyway, so he became the mayor's Sun Salvador, and then he started running. He wanted to move up to become president in the twenty nineteen presidential election. He was already pulling higher than any of the other potential presidential candidates. But the problem is the political parties sort

of had the power. There was the f MLN and the ar NA Arena, and they basically teamed up together to block his participation in the election. They wanted to keep him out, of course they did. They wanted the status quo. The problem with most of these corrupt countries.

Speaker 2

Which is the most of the world, and I mean the United.

Speaker 1

States is pretty corupt as well, is that they don't want things to change. They need to continue to hang on to power. So of course they try to block anybody, and unfortunately it's because they're looking out for their own self interest and not for the greater good of the country. And really, you know, there's a saying I learned a long time ago. The fish stinks from the head down. And basically that means that it starts at the top

and then it trickles down to the rest. If you look into like running a company, a business, you have to set culture for that business, and that culture has to be set from the top. The president, the CEO, the founder has to decide what that culture will be, and they're the ones that influence it. If they want to have excellence and hard work and customer care, then

that's what the company will have. But unfortunately, you know, we've seen that shift in the United States and all around the world back to the hard times.

Speaker 2

Strong men.

Speaker 1

If you look at the founding of the United States, the founding fathers, they literally risk their lives for the betterment of future generations, you know, planting a tree under which they'd never sit under that shade, so to speak. Right, they were literally sacrificed in life. And even a hundred years ago, people were moving here from other countries to have better lives for their kids, things that they would never see. They work two three jobs so their kids

could have a better life. But unfortunately, today, unlike our founding fathers who sacrifice their lives for future generations, we have politicians that are only out to enrich themselves every twist and turn they can. And unfortunately, the double edged sword of freedom has allowed, unfortunately many politicians in the United States to enrich themselves by selling the country down the river, and of course they don't want that system to change,

and of course then that trickles down through society. So if the leaders at the top are only out for short term wins and gains, and they're willing to let greed drive them and sell out their own country and basically steal. Then what do you think everybody else does? And unfortunately, the best way to get rich today is through gambling and theft, and that's exactly what we're seeing and that's exactly what happened in.

Speaker 2

L Salvador.

Speaker 1

However, President Muchaylee was able to get through. I'm not going to take you through all the twists and turns in this, but he was able to get through and actually was was elected as president. That was June first, twenty nineteen, and on June twentyeth he took his acceptance speech to a packed out crowd. He was the people's favorite, but the establishment didn't want them in there. Now, he put together a grand plan, a territorial control plan is what he called it. And I believe there was like

four phases. We'll go through the real quick. So Phase one of the plan was called preparation. It involved concentrating on this disrupting the finances of the gangs, and taking back control of historic city and town centers in twelve key municipalities. Now again, it was one of the most

dangerous countries in the world run by these gangs. Now, basically what was happening is MS thirteen gangs had control over the whole country and the country, you know, it's a poor country, and so they had these like little villages and pueblos or whatever you want to call them down there, and basically these gangs would run every one of them. And from what I hear from the people,

have been down there a couple of times. From what I hear from the people, the locals couldn't even leave the towns, come and go without paying basically attacks to these gangs, and they would take a large percentage of their income. I mean, they're so broke, they barely make any money as it is, and these gangs would take a large percentage of that. They would get robbed riding the buses and things like that. Basically, they are just terrorized.

They were living under oppression and fear all the time. And these gangs had become so powerful that they had infiltrated their way into the court system and even into the government. And so the first phase was to start attacking their finances, take back control of the city and the town centers. Like I said, in these twelve twelve

key areas. He had two thousand police officers from the National Civil Police and three thousand soldiers of the Armed forces coming in and the prisons were put on lockdowns, with cell phone signals around the prisons blocked. Why do have cell phones? It's not allowed, you know, they're not allowed to have cell phones, but yet they all do in the United States as well, they had them in El Salvador. He locked the prisons down and blocked cell phone signals.

Speaker 2

Well, it seems like a pretty good idea.

Speaker 1

Why don't we do that here? Why wasn't that done earlier?

Speaker 2

Yeah, do you understand?

Speaker 1

Phase two was called Opportunity. Opportunity was an effort conducted in parallel with other operational phases, and it focused It focused on positive change. It focused on offering youth a different path. Don't go with the gangs. Instead, let's create this social fabric, schools, sports centers, educational opportunities, vocational training. Let's give these kids something to aspire to. Let's give them training, Let's give them something else other than just gangs.

Sounds like a pretty good plan. Phase number three Modernization, Now, this involved equipping the military and the police force to deal.

Speaker 2

With the gangs.

Speaker 1

This meant updating their modern weapons, getting them you know, proper vehicles, body armor, helicopters, night vision, because the gangs are very well equipped in Mexico. Now, these gangs are like trillionaires. They have better weapons than most militaries. And I mean down in Mexico and a lot of places I go, the police.

Speaker 2

Don't even have cars.

Speaker 1

The police just like stand on corners. But yet the narcos they have the best weapons you can have. And

so that's what's happening down in El Salvadors. They had to equip the military with better equipment, got one hundred and nine million dollar loan in order to do that, and so he was sort of ramping up on Then February six, Bukeley invoked Article one sixty seven of El Salvador's Constitution to convene an extraordinary session of the Legislative Assembly, and he called in the citizens to join him at

the Legislative Assembly. So he got all the people because he cared about the consent of the people that he governed, unlike what we have going on in the United States today. And he got all the people to come in and he asked the crowd, I want to ask you to let me enter into the blue hall of the Legislat Assembly to say a prayer and that God give us wisdom for the steps we're going to take, and then the decision will be up to you. Do you authorize me?

He asked them a question, and the crowd started chanting and roaring yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, get in the consent and the will of the people to go and do something, and even more importantly saying that he wants to go and ask God about it, giving it up to a higher power. Now, whether you believe in God or whatever god you believe in, I think it's pretty understandable that if you give respect, if you believe in a higher power, you're probably going to be a better

leader than if you think you're the God themselves. There's a lot of religions that I don't agree with, but we pretty much for the most part, would agree that if people lived by this universal code, things will be better off. Then that's exactly what President Buchley did. He said that he asked God and God told him patience, patience, patience.

But when he came out to people are like, no, we don't want patience, and he said, no, we're going to do this patiently, and we're going to do it democratically, and that's exactly what's happening. Through the democratic process, he was able to mobilize another fourteen fourteen hundred soldiers to go fight the gangs. And a year after this all started, his party succeeded, took one by overwhelming votes. And now Bukeley was free to govern with so full support of

the legislator legislature. And this story is just getting going. I want to tell you exactly what happened after this next step happened, how bitcoin came into play, and again how this can be a model for the rest of the world. If you're just tune in your listening to the Mark Mass Show talking about the bright spot in the world that should be an example for the rest of us. We'll be back with more in a minute.

Don't go away, all right, welcome back. If you just tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show, we're talking about the bright spot that's going on in the world. That should be the well, it should be the example. It should be what every politician, city, county, state government should be paying attention to and I'm talking about what's

going on down in El Salvador. We saw President Bouquelee takeover El Salvador as the president a couple of years ago now I guess about five years ago, and has turned it within five years from I think the most that he says the most dangerous country in the world to the safest country, at least in the Western hemisphere or potentially in the entire world. I went through sort of the whole plan of how they did that, and

we talked about I'm getting up to speed. So finally we're at phase four of this territorial control plan that he put in. And this is an important piece because again, the country was so violent and it was under such control this by the gangs that there was areas that were literally no go zones that were so dangerous and were so controlled.

Speaker 2

By gangs that they couldn't even go there.

Speaker 1

I remember in high school one of my best friends family had come from South Africa. I had a couple friends from South Africa and they had left there when things got bad. Their families had moved over here. Remember one of my friends after high school went back and

he worked as a fireman over there. And you know, in South Africa, and he came, he would come back periodically and we'd kind of talk about what life was like living over there, and I remember him telling me stories about how there were these no go zones where literally even if the police were, say like in a high speed pursuit or something like that, there were certain areas, like certain neighborhoods or regions that the police wouldn't even go into because.

Speaker 2

It was so bad. And I couldn't believe.

Speaker 1

It at that, Like I was young, and I just didn't understand the way the world worked, I guess at that point, but it was, it was it was unbelievable.

Speaker 2

For me to think about that.

Speaker 1

Unfortunately, that's the way South Africa still is today, and it was exactly how El Salvador was at that time, or the Sales Salvator South America, South Africa. It's the same way South Africa still is today, unfortunately, and it's

the way that El Salvador was as well. And so the part phase four of the plan was to basically get the government to re establish security control of these no go zones that the police had previously found it difficult or impossible to even operate in you know, in these barrios, things like that taxis had to pay extortion fees when they entered and left the barrio. Little ladies with papoosa stands, which are just like these little like

sort of bread sandwiches that they make down there. Little ladies of the papoosa stands had to pay gangs a percentage of their receipts or they would see their sons disappear. Men who could not cross certain geographic boundaries to buy food or they'd be killed. Right, they couldn't. They couldn't even go feed their families. They had to go send their wives to do it. That's how things were at

this point. And so this phase of the plan was to take away the gang's ownership of these spaces and allow the citizens to free the work and then come and go as they please without fear. Sounds like a pretty good deal, right, But I mean, we're starting to see this in the United States. There's plenty of places in some of these big cities that you shouldn't be going. People getting beat up and mugged and robbed and even

killed on the subways or downtown cities. Now, as part of this phase, a new goal was also announced to double the size of the armed forces from twenty thousand to forty thousand troops and the operation, you know, in order to do this, in order to reclaim the Borrios put the game members in a very defensive posture. All right, So this is pretty interesting, and of course they're going to fight back. They're not going to go away easily. Right. So for months, the homicidera had been very low, and

that's because they were on their back foot so to speak. Right, They were coming after the gang so much they were forced into hiding. But on March twenty sixth to twenty twenty two, the gangs decided to move forward and they went on a killing spree. They started targeting street vendors,

bus passengers, grocery shoppers. It was El Salvador's bloodiest day since the civil war, and the gangs were basically trying to send a message to the government, Look, you either back off of us and let us have our way, or we are going to rain down and you know, terrorize you some more.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

So this was an interesting piece because a weak man, a week president would potentially get into that, but not Buquelie. He was a strong man and so instead of backing down to what the gang's request is, he responded in kind or maybe even faster, and it was swift and it was resolute. So what he basically did the next day the National Assembly passed a state of emergency and a state of exception. The gangs had treated the public as hostages, right, they were terrorizing all these people, using

them as hostages. So down to the President began treating their imprisoned homeboys in sort of the same way all of the home boys, the other gang members that were in prison. He started cutting their meals, giving meal rationing. He took their mattresses, he took their clothes away from them, so now inmates were only able to wear underwear and

they had to sleep on concrete. And then the president valved that if there were any more waves of gang violence, that the imprisoned gang members would not be fed, as he said quote, not be fed a single grain of rice. Now, of course, people don't like this. You have all these international NGOs, non gover organizations like the Human Rights Watch, the Inter American Commission on Human Rights, Amnesty International, the United Nations, you know, all of these in there saying how.

Speaker 2

Dare you do this.

Speaker 1

You can't treat people like that. And the President responded, quote, they can take their gang members if they want, We'll give them.

Speaker 2

All of them. Of course they didn't.

Speaker 1

Of course none of these countries wanted them. I'm guessing the United States probably wanted a few of them. Maybe we'll get some of them over here. But that's exactly how he had to deal with it. And so what happened is over the next couple of months, the war against the gangs just intensified. Thousands more gang members were arrested, more prison more than they could even fit into the prison.

So then Bikayley had to build new prisons. He had to build a new one that had a capacity for forty thousand inmates, but he rounded them up, cleaned it up, allowed him go into Phase five, which was a territory control plan extractions. So now police and soldiers began encircling communities and going to where all the known gang members are, where they were hiding out, and they started doing house

by house searches until every single person was checked. Now the part that a lot of people don't like, and I agree, I mean, unfortunately, when things get this bad, you have to do extreme measures. I'm guessing that in this massive dragnet that the government did, there was probably some innocent people that might have got caught up in that,

and that's not good. I would imagine that some people maybe didn't get the full benefit of the doubt, maybe they didn't get the full due process that they deserve, and that's unfortunate and I am certainly one hundred percent for everybody's rights. The problem is, how do you fix a problem this extreme. The answer would be to never let it get that way in the first place.

Speaker 2

That's the answer.

Speaker 1

You know, we live in a world of complex systems. The human body is a complex system, the financial systems a complex system. Our socio or economic world we live in is a complex system, and you can't just treat individual symptoms without having unintended consequences. You know, I mostly talk about the financial system, and so as we talk about the financial system, people want say, we how can we fix this?

Speaker 2

How can we fix out?

Speaker 1

But the problem is you fix one little thing and it causes all these other problems. And so the answer is like, well, we should have never let it get like this in the first place, because there's really no

good way getting out of it. I remember again, back in high school, one of my other good friends, their family owned a body shop, and I would I'd hang out there sometimes on the weekends, and I remember he would talk about like people would come in and see them working on their cars and they're hitting them with hammers, trying to pound out panels, and the people like, WHOA, well, what are you doing? You know, you're making it worse.

And he's like, look, man, you hit it this hard, like we had to hit hard to get it to get.

Speaker 2

It back into shape.

Speaker 1

It's sort of the what is it the saying like you can't make a cake without breaking a few egs kind of thing. And so, unfortunately, when it comes to you know, again, complex systems, whether it be your health, your body, the economic system, or a political system like this, unfortunately there's no good swift answer. And everything in life has a cost. Everything in life has trade off, and you have to just trade things off. Unfortunately, that's just

the way the world works. It's not black and white like that. But the outcome is is that now the kids who would otherwise be growing up in environment that pressure them into joining gangs now have massive opportunity. Now instead of going to gangs. Now they have school, they have sports now, instead of a country that's continue to fall further and further behind, now there's investment capital coming in.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

Businesses no longer have the tax of extortion by the gangs, so they're free to expand. Workers no longer have to pay extortion fees, so that's more money for them to invest into their own families and to their own businesses. The amount of psychological relief that's come from the gangs being relaxed is allowing the country to flourish.

Speaker 2

But yet the opposite of that what.

Speaker 1

We're seeing all throughout Europe, Canada, and the United States specifically in these major cities, it's the opposite direction. And so the dark before the dawn, so to speak, is we're still going in this bad direction.

Speaker 2

Unfortunately. The good news is that Bouqueti was able.

Speaker 1

To turn this around in just a couple of short years, and he's showing the world how quickly he can turn around the world if they wanted to. Anyway, if you're tuning in listening to the Mark Moss Show talking about the bright spot of what's going on in El Salvador and how it could be a model, it should be a model for the rest of the world. Let me know what you think. I'd love to hear from you. Hit me up at one Mark Moss on social media and that's what I got.

Speaker 2

Thanks so much for listening.

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