Nixon Shock On The Dollar, Afghanistan and Broken Financial System | Max Keiser

it just kind of burst out. You know, Ellen was in the news and uh he got a lot of bitcoiners kind of on the wrong wrong side, and so it burst out and a lot of people found it interesting or controversial and become now a pretty interesting name.

Show me name the tour after this. Yeah, well you're no stranger to controversy, controversy, sales, I guess well, we've been doing journalism for almost twenty years now, and because we did do journalism for outlets like Al Jazeera, English Press TV, which is Iranian, RT, which is Russian, BBC, which is communist, we we we have a lot of controversy that blows us around, just because the journalists tend to attract controversy if they're doing journalism. Yeah, well they should.

Well they used to do journalism not so much anymore. Right, journalism is a lost heart. Yeah, it's a lost art. So, um, what do you mean he got people on the wrong side. Well, he he initially got folks interested in you know that he was taking a look at bitcoin and buying bitcoin, but he immediately did the rookie mistake of getting involved in the ship points and number one, and then in subsequent interviews he was kind of making fun of Al Salvador as being kind of a backwater. Uh country wasn't

going anywhere. That was very rude. He was talking about bitcoin note operators. It's not really essential or even look them. So he didn't do the homework. I like Michael Sailor, it did the homework, has done the homework, really understand it got into it. Elon is a dileton, just flew. He's a fly by guy. He's like, oh, this looks cute and he's like an area. Yeah, that's a great point. Now you are like the o G in the space. I saw something from you the other day, like two

thousand and eleven. You were like saying, like I want to get a million people into bitcoin back in two dozen eleven, So you've been around a long time. I'm curious to get your take on this because now I've been in since which is all long day but not not near as you. But um, I had my own path down the all coins, and it seems like the more research you do roads come back to bitcoin. And I don't know anybody, and I'm curious from your viewpoint, like it seems like the more work that somebody puts

in to do the research, nobody, nobody decides it doesn't work. Right. It's almost like once you've done the work, like you're bought in um if you if your service level like Elon, maybe right, But have you seen that the more even more to put the work you put in the bitcoin, the more your conviction increases, and the morning you become bitcoin maximum? Right, So nobody nobody puts the work in and understands and goes, oh, this is never gonna work.

It's never seen it. It's the opposite that. Ever in ten years, I've never seen anybody who put in a lot of work and it was decided that it actually was something that they weren't interested in and then never happened. Yeah, it's never happened. So I thought that was an interesting viewpoint. Now, I'm super interested in your take on like some international things, because I know you've lived all around the world and as you said, you kind of do news for these

different outlets. Um. I've always thought that, you know, specifically around bitcoin, that at some point it's going to be the battle for the ages, because the world doesn't want to give up their grip on fiat specifically, the dollar doesn't want to give up the grip on the dollar reserve asset. But that's a that's a US centric view. What about from other parts of the world that maybe doesn't have the dollar reserve asset? Do you think there's

a difference there. No, you know, starting in the the n we just had the fiftieth anniversary of the Nixon Shock, the Sunday ninth, you know, you must closed the gold window, and we went on this massive global experiment for the first time, all fiat money, no Fiat money backed by anything another fiat money. And then during the fifty years, you know, you've had collusion. No mean, prints wrote an

excellent book Collusion. The central banks kind of worked together in keeping interest rates artificially low by keeping the money's big gets pumped and pouring out all this fiat money and by essentially making it easier to commit financial fraud, because financial fraud is financial ultimately by borrow of money. And if the cost of borrowing money is near zero, you are allowing and condoning all that financial fraud to just become rampant throughout the globe. And this is what

we've seen, and this is the problems. I'm just about every single problem you can point your finger at has its root in too much free money. Yeah. I I just did a video on that fiftieth anniversary that Nick Nixon shock, and I grabbed a clip of his his address when he announced that, and uh, there was a lot of things that are that are important to talk about, but one of them was he was saying, we have to protect the dollar from the speculators, because the speculators

will one the country's were demanding goal. We don't want the fake currency, but to the speculators, like uh, kind of the famous A Story of Sorrows how he broke the bank gaming un speculating. So everybody knew that they had printed too many dollars and they would do it. And I just thought if they never printed the dollars, they wouldn't have had to protect it from the speculators. Hey guys, let me just interrupt this interview real quick,

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Now all right, well, you know speculators are when policy fails of capitalism. It's made up of free markets, and you have buyers and sellers, and regulators regulate these markets so that price discovery is piquin immius throughout the entire system. And I just butchered that work. But I'm not going

to buy repronounce it nevertheless. Uh, when you have a situation like Nixon had in nineteen seventy one where America went too far into debt to pay for the Vietnam War and they effectively defaulted on their gold obligations to Great Britain by saying we're gonna send you our goal, We're gonna send you more paper money. So the speculator in this case was Nixon and speculating that Great Britain

would take paper and not go to war. And I think Great Britain would have justifiably sent like France sent today a worship to uh to New York. I guess it was to pick up their goal. So they thought it was an active war to try to monkey around with their money. Great Britain should have done the same thing. Really, But so that's what the speculation. He was speculating on the spinelessness of the British people, and he he correctly bet that they would be jellyfish and not respond. Yeah, so, um,

that's fifty It's been fifty years. So we had, you know, are five thousand years of gold as a monetary standard an hour fifty years in this monetary experiment of fiat currency. And it just seems like when you look at the world you kind of mentioned a minute ago, like interest rates are at zero umrillion dollars of debt, Like how fast and how far it's come. It just seems like how much longer can I go for it? Man? Have they pushed it to the max? Right? The swing vote

is China. So China has been a huge beneficiary of the monetary system in the last twenty or thirty years. They elevated themselves from their world status up to being a superpower. So the question is at what point is trying to open the trapdoor in the US dollar in conjunction. Probably will move on Taiwan. They have to feel comfortable that they can do that, and to do that, they have been hoarding gold quite voluminously, un hundreds of tons.

They've got the one bout one road initiative that ties China, Russia, it ran Um and now Afghanistan will probably join that quartet. So uh, they I think believe that they're close to being in a position to make a move on Taiwan. They had a trial one of Hong Kong. They co opted Um annexed Hong Kong without any pushback. Really no no problem there. So I think it's all go, all go ye for Taiwan. Yeah, and what do you think the significance of Taiwan, Well, it would the chips are

manufacturing in Taiwan. It's a hugely strategic asset for China from the technology side, technology side, So it's uh they wanted so UM. I think that they're going to get it, you know, and they've already told everybody they're gonna get it. They took that Japan said, if you tempt it, we're gonna step in. And they said if you even where they say, if you even show one soldier, We're going to nuke your whole island, I think they said. And

they have great allies, you know. I mean, Japan is entirely depended on for an oil and they on domestic oil. And also that would mean that there they would be UM easily defeated. UM and UM. I think also another major swing player and this whole thing would be Germany, because Germany, I think, is gonna leave essentially need lead NATO and side with Russia, China, Ran Afghanistan go east for the pipeline. They already had that. The nord Tream too,

is already going right from Russia right to Germany. Uh and they've got like thirty or forty percent of their energy directly comes from Russia now and the US can't compete on that front. And uh so I think that will kind of tip the balance to a new century, a new alliance, and a new The biggest trades on the world would be the one road, one about one road. It wouldn't be the he used currently number one that

I think overtaken by this new mass. And to your point, China has done that all with the dollar, because they've weaponized the dollar against us and kind built this empire, this this whole Eurasian land mask. Um. So you talk about it like being oil, which is kind of interesting because obviously the dollars switched from gold back to this

kind of petro dollar. But now today we have like this whole E. S G narrative going around and like now we have activist shareholders taking over Exxon, and like now they're not even gonna be in the oil business anymore. Germany seems to want to be getting rid of all their fossil fuels and even nuclear. So you still think that has a lot of weight. Well, let me make

sure I understand the question. So E s G. Well, it seems like the labor of the month, at least to call it social responsible investing, and that's murphed and morphed into E. S G. And this is a talking point in the talking shops around the world like Davos and things like that. So what do you exactly, Well, it just seems like you're saying, like, tie all this

together with the oil. But it seems like at the same time, all these countries are trying to get rid of the use of oil, get rid of fossil fuels altogether. So it didn't seem like could be the thing to unite everybody when everybody seems to be trying to get off of it. I guess was my point right there,

trying to move to renewables as opposed to fossil fuels. UM. The oil business isn't going wet, right, you know, the supply made the window, but the demand is not going to Chinese cult capacity like they just went up again. It's quite sharply UM and UM. Renewables are it's it's it's UM. It's not really it's gonna be a factor if you if you look at even the way as

you mentioned the petrol dollar. Right, so the entire banking system is tied entirely to the oil industry because it's extremely capital intensive and UM, so they're they're also not gonna be on board with with a switch out of oil. Um, so E s G. It's it's a lugeon that is you used to kind of, um have a way to frame the narrative. You know, people would use that E s G. To somehow, um shape news and shape the narrative and things like that. But it's it's it's purely cosmetic.

There's absolutely no no basis. There's no no, no, no reason to think that this is a factor at all. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I mean it's definitely I agree with you. It's definitely a way to control companies and countries even and uh it may limit the supply, but the demands not going away, right, so we're still going to have that. So um, I guess all this just kind of feeds

into the bigger narrative. Obviously we're bitcoiners, um, and you know, going from the Nixon shock, Um, it's almost like these are just ripples that have been sent out, Like all these are kind of like effects. Um. The Afghanistan piece, what you mentioned we were talking about before recording is

kind of a big turn of events. Um, what's happened there, and and uh there's probably a bunch of opinions on that but it's like as bad as that was, like maybe that would have always been avoided if we didn't have the feet currency from the Nixon Shock. Would you say that, you know, if you have money allows you to go in Afghanistan's for twenty years without any objective, without any plan um, and to just funnel trillions to defense contractors right to your buddies down the street in Washington.

That's all. It is a pastrough mechanism to channel printonalized cantellent. Yeah, there was as a war game. There was someone put on Twitter post from from Julian Assans from two thousand eleven, twenty years ago, a decade ago, and he was saying, Afghanistan is going to be a way to funnel money from the taxpayers to these multinational companies. And then you see it today and it's like, exactly what you're saying,

exactly what happened? You know, it's the same thing. Yeah, essentially the same thing, you know, I kind of I'm I'm surprised that America, after spending two twenty two trillion dollars in twenty years, couldn't find Saudi Arabia on a map, right, we went in there after nine eleven because to reprise the attackers, and they for some you know, for twenty nine cents you go to the gas station and buy a world map and then their Saudi Arabia here, okay gas,

and that's not the same, right, So after twenty years they finally figured that out. They're like, you know, we've made a wrong turn. We went a little bit too far the side. Well that happened. It's like in the GPS in your car, okay, you know, the parking lot for thirty minutes, because they keeps sending it round in the round and round. That's American food policy. They're completely stuck on stupid, right. But they're spending trillions of dollars.

If you have money, there's never any penalty, but they just keep it in their pocket and they go buy stocks and inside our training and Nancy Pelosi sixty seventy million dollars at the time in Washington just trading an inside information. Yeah, that's what we're paying for. Yeah, just because list goes on and on. How money it breeds leprosy. Yeah,

And the politicians are essentially fiat lepers. They think they live in a cave where they're just gregging all this fee on money showing upon them from the febuaries are banking the Treasury Department, and they're drug trolls under a bridge. There's all the fat pigs, right, and that's what we feat that's our taxes go. It's a pigsty vermin yea. Yeah,

you mentioned the accountability piece. So there's no accountability. So of course if they if they're not gonna get in trouble, they're not gonna lose their jobs, is not gonna get whatever, then they're going to keep doing it. You know, they just dropped palates of hundred dollar bills in to Afghanistan and hope that it's all gonna work out well. Right, the guy just made up at the hundred fifties hundred

sixty million dollars of our tax money. Right, I was hoping to buy a gold fish or something for my house, you know, put some life in the quarter, you got it? Like now it's like no, it's over in Dubai or where he's living large as a good uh you know, out law worshiping Muslim, you know, down at the bar five o'clock every night, washed on my money. Yeah, okay, you know, at least like read the crime don't be

an assholes like chapter one. Yeah, so under a sound money standard, under bitcoin standard, under a gold standard previous to FIAT, countries would go to war and if they calculated wrong, if they lost, then they go bankrupt, and then there's real consequences. Wars would end, and then there would be consequences. They'd go bankrupt and the country would fall. Right, that's right, Well, that's exactly right. You're you're limited to

That's why you had to be strategic. You know, you had like Napoleon or whoever, you know, great generals because they were able to win war is given the constraints of their budgets. Yeah, but if you have no budgetary constraints and you can just like sitting somewhere in Delaware behind a video console and start killing civilians like a video game and con tail yourself millions of dollars and just watch dead people pile up on the street and

like give yourself a Budweiser at five o'clock. There's no there's no reason to stop. Why would you stop? There's well, human life has no value in that scenario. So I mean, if Karma's coming back, you know, as Malcolm X said that chickens are coming home to roost. Yeah. Now there's one parallel that we both have drawn that I want to discuss real quickly, and that was in regards to Afghanistan.

Um Well, I started out saying that, you know, we've always kind of known that the powers that be are not gonna want bitcoin because it's going to take away their feat control. Um and with with with Afghanistan, we were warned Omar warrened Bush like, hey, come out of the bush, that we're gonna come out with everything, and nowhere you can hide, and he said, we'll wait you out. And so Afghanistan is notoriously has been called the graveyard of empires. Right, so everyone that goes there it gets

defeated and then the empire falls apart. And there's something about Afghanistan. It's just hard to kill. And so just they don't wait everybody out. It's the Bitcoin of countries. It's the Bitcoin of countries. It's decentralized, so you can knock out one tribe or one hill or one group and it doesn't matter because it's infinitely replicated throughout this entire region and there's no way to to kill it. For that reason, it's totally decentralize, the same reason why

a big cooin is unkillable. It's unconfiscatable, it's immutable, it's unstoppable PDP file swapping. They've been trying to get rid of that for decades. They can get rid of it because it's totally distributed centralized. So that's that's what Afghanistan has. So um, that was predictable that the US would do exactly what they did. I think that going into Afghanistan, if there was any game plan, it was that we know at ultimately that we could probably blow two trillions

or more in this unwinnable war for our friends. Sound down at the Pentagon, right, that was the plan, Like they did say it worked out beautifully because it worked out exactly because you know, the network of these guys

has shot up absolutely dramatically. That the wealth in America is increased by trillions of dollars, and that's the trillions that have been printed show up on the cap table of the network of those people who are benefiting from the genocide little maniacs that are running the show in the same amount. It's like, here's here's five dollars over here. Hold now, it's over there. How did you get there? Well, we pretended like we had. We were looking for a

song and been longing. If I can get to stand there eleven, then he was responsible for all that tragedy, even though it was not them. But we won't say nothing because Americans too stupid, and they're like, it's a monetization of the mass stupidity of an entire nation, a million morons being wrapped in the boat Fiat money ties and putting the part thank you very much, Fox, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you have spent two and a half trillion dollars, where do you think it went? Where did

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bringing it back to bitcoin. I mean, so obviously bitcoin could fix this by preventing it from happening in the first place. But I also, like I said, like to think about it being hard to kill. So just like the Afghanistan was able to wait out the US government for twenty years, Um, bitcoin can just wait out this whole mess that's happening. I guess what is it if you stand by the river long enough you see the bodies of your enemies coming by a kind of a thing.

I read an proper this week. I learned something which goes you have the watches, we have the time. I like that, right, I like that? Yeah, Bitcoin is just hop the zen moment of Hottle. It's like, um, you cannot be. The only weapon they have to fight Bitcoin with is to print more money and of course increases, Um, the ash rain increases, the security increases the price. Yea. So the more you attacked me, actually, my Dneworth skyrockets, thank you very much. So attacked me all day long,

please you know. And and the more they attack it, the more they prove the use case for it. Almost right, Like if the government says don't do drugs, doesn't make you want to go do drugs. When they say you don't have the right to store your wealth in a way we can't confiscate that, it makes me want to do that. Well, it opens up people's eyes like, well, what's what's going on here? Why are you concerned about this?

And some people jump into the rabbit hole. And as we're saying before, the more you learn about and your conviction goes up, and then you the network effect kicks in and now you've got two hundred million users soon it will be two billion users. And all the math is on our side. You know, all the math is on our side, and all the Fiat money bizarre, uh, you know, runaway nightmare that's going on is also working

in our favor. And there's absolutely no possible way that the central banks of any country right now, with the exclusion of Russia, are able to actually raise interest rates in a way that would stop this runaway freight train of hyper inflationary collapse against bitcoin. So um, I want to get into Max's crystal ball here, okay, and not talking about I've got two in the moment, and I'm

not talking about price because I don't care about the price. Um. So if all we have to do is wait it out, if we stand by the river long enough, the bodies will fly by. Um. And it seems like, I mean, the world is scary right now. We have a censorship and oppression, and we have our funding terrorism and all these things. We're you know, the financial institution or world is ready for a reset. I mean, their backs against the wall, and it seems like just left on their own,

they're crumbling, right. The whole system is falling apart as you as you're making the case. Um with bitcoin, we're even helping push it over the edge. Um. So how long how long are we going to have to stand by the river before we see this whole system crumble? What? What what do you think as far as like the future two years, five years, twenty years, etcetera. Well, it's

crumbling right now. And look different locations so and we don't care about them because they're not recorded by the news like other parts of the world, other parts of America. All right, So ninety thousand dead people from oxy contin overdose, and anyone report that on the on the cable news, does their deaths of despair caused by money printing and negligence and kind of a soft genocide by the pharmaceutical companies. We have life expectancy in America going down for the

first time. We have inframortality going up. We have press freedom sinking and not even running on even the top thirty five anymore in the United States. So we're already crashing. Let's just not being reported on. It's like the portrait of Dorian Gray rights watching paint dry. There's nobody upstairs that looks good though. This is the version of the portrare of Dorian Gray in America. We're both the portrad

in the living room and the attic both look like ship. Yeah, so we're witnessing and as why I said, we're's crumbling around as and and given it just just on its own, it's gonna fall apart um. Yeah, it just seems like we're in for quite a ride over the next couple of years. So as long as we just huddle, al right, I guess as you said this in case of huddle, will just weight long enough. Yeah, that's the best thing

anyone can do. So Bitcoin was a gift and it gives us a way to hoddle through this period in history and to come out the other side of it. Um, do you think of it in terms of like holding holding my purchasing power so that when we come on the other side of it, as you said, then we still have wealth that we can buy more goods and services as opposed to buying this four number go up technology and I'm we're all going to get rich. And by lambos right, is it the insurance or is it

investment or is it both? You know, you do come out the other side of it with your purchasing power, but you know, more more crucially, you come out the other side of it with something. Because we're heading into a situation where well, it's just going to be confiscated. In Germany right now, the yield curve on the entire German bond market is negative in nominal terms, and they're now applying that to the people's bank accounts, their savings account.

So they're just confiscating money. It out of your bank account in Germany right now. Um, they're just taking your money. Um. So this is gonna be the situation all over the world. In the US, we have the world reserve currency, the US dollars, so slightly different but inflation does effectively the same thing. So they're just stealing money through the money printing, which causes all the inflation. And so it's confiscational wealth.

So it's it's about preserving purchasing power, but more importantly, it's about having some wealth. It's unconfiscatable, it's unsensible. Uh, It's it's like if you were escaping Nazi Germany and and all, and you had no ability to walk out of there with anything. You were completely naked, but you had a sea phrase, a bitcoin in your mind of

twelve words, you could move a billion dollars. I could go to the airport tomorrow, completely naked, walk land anywhere in the world and have my wealth completely intact if I just have to remember those twelve seed words in the I thought about that in Uh, seeing those pictures of all those Afghanists, I'll just people in Afghanistan trying to escape and there's whatever, haven't hearn People loaded onto one of those planes and they didn't have anything with them.

They had no luggage, they didn't have they didn't have bars of gold, they weren't carrying their bank accounts or their or their real estate. But they could and they probably didn't. But that's where bitcoin comes in. They could just know those words in their head, right, and it does give you some peace of mind. Also, let's say you're in a stressful situation like in Australia right now, which has gone essentially you know, they're they're making the

Nazis I think lush. You know, like the Nazis would look back and you know, if they can you look in history, they would look to seeing what Australian government and they'd be like, you guys, get it, good job. Yeah, right, So they got an incredible advantage if you can actually give yourself peace of mind by at least knowing that at the end of the day they cannot confiscate that. You know, they could take my gold teeth, they could take my liver, if they could take my kidney, right,

but they can't take my sea friends. Yeah, so that gives me some piece of my and like ultimately, um, and they can only kind of fund themselves to FA money. So we know that that's that's a path to annihilation. So we get to get at the last laugh and hopefully in the craziness of the world that we have right now, people are realizing that if you want to remain free, you might have to be able to move around a little bit, and so you want to be

able to be agile with your wealth. And if you're you know, if we look back to Nazi Germany early days and not to Germany, um, the rich, the rich Jews in Germany, they didn't want to leave because they had all their wealth and they were stuck there, right, and so being able to have that wealthy portable right Germany, So being able to be portable with your wealth is going to be a massive benefit in these coming years. I think that's the key difference that is actually possible.

You have digital gold that is completely portable, and you can't do it with gold or silver, it's not portable like yeah, so that's it's a very remarkable thing. So there will be bitcoiners left over after the Fiat holocaust. There will be bigcoiners remaining who can restart civilization and we'll be fucking like funnies and restarting humankind as bitcoiners.

You know that there may only be you know, I don't know how many left the big coiners troop bitcoiners that they will be inherent civilization and we will have to start over again. We have to avoid large gatherings so they don't take us all out at one time. That's decentralized, decized everywhere there's that will be a pocket. Right. So let's say that the U. S. Military decided to drop a nuclear bomb on a Texas bit mining farm. Okay,

they'll still be farming in Iceland. Yea. So we saw the network go down in China exactly, didn't even do anything, exactly, did not hurt TikTok, next block and stop. The Bitcoin protocol kept going and going and going. That's our savior. You know. We want to make it to the other side so we can be pro creating, starting civilization in a massive orgy of bitcoin. Let's do it. Yeah, well good, I mean that's a lot of stuff that we went through.

I love I love that point of just being hard to kill that decentralized and just waiting long enough because we know the system is going to fall apart, and so we'll do that. So and you've been a big mortal. It's immortal. Bitcoin is immortal. Yeah right, So it has a mysterious origin, it performs miracles, and it's immortal. Where have we seen that before? We've seen that narrative last a few thousand years. Yeah, so yeah, bitcoin as the second coming of Christ is a viable idea. Yeah, I

think so. It's a distributed Christ. Well, definitely, its blooming and you know, a billion simultaneously, the same revelation that love be take. It's all happening at one time, and imagine Christ two point out the essentially a bitcoin. Yeah. Nice, Well that will wrap it up. I can't wait for the party tomorrow night. I'm sure. I'm sure we'll get to hear plenty of those rants. I can't I can't wait for that energy. Yeah, what else you want to say?

Anyone else? You want to talk about more events coming up? Or uh? Well no, I mean we got something coming up in Paris, and and you know, I lived in France for fourteen years, and so I know France very well. I know Paris very well. I'd love to go back to France anytime I can. And and then from there, we're not sure, but we can, As you say, it's very agile, we can hopefully do more of these events that get people down into these kind of revival events.

So follow Max on Twitter and on YouTube, and that way you can find out where he's gonna be, and when he does the Paris event, it much thank you, Okay, all right,