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05-29-25 FULL SHOW - A Dying Man Fights To Try New Treatments

May 29, 20251 hr 47 min
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Mandy talks about how expensive it is to replace the Ford F-150 Lightning truck battery is, she spoke with a young man with a fatal disease who is advocating for Right to Try new meds, Rich Guggenheim with Gays Against Groomers pops on for an update, Hamas wants Palestinians to starve rather than take aid from a group that MAY be associated with Israel, and the Plum Creek Garden Market team visited to talk about glow in the dark petunias.

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Speaker 1

The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock Accident and injury Lawyers.

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No, it's Mandy Connell and Connall KA ninety one, m Got You.

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Want to Study?

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And the Nicys through three. Andy Connell, Keith You, Sad bab Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to eight Thursday feels like Wednesday edition of the show. I love a short week, but I'm not going to lie. This short week has kicked my bouquet for reasons that don't matter to you at all. But I am a professional. I pulled myself out from the depths of I'm I'm so tired to show up for you. So all I ask is that you show up for me. And uh, let's jump right in. It's me.

I'm Mandy Connell. That guy right over there, he's a ride. You can call me Anthony Rodriguez. Oh that's just that's a weird arnold. And my daughter Q is in the studio with me. Now, yeah, you can talk. She's just pointing to the microphone like can I talk?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 4

Those are the air horns?

Speaker 3

Have you not heard them?

Speaker 6

All?

Speaker 4

We have people imitate the air No one can see you.

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The reason that it's been a long week for you is because you had.

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To stay out past nine pm. Stop making fun of your mother. Stop it.

Speaker 5

She's not wrong's I.

Speaker 8

Went to a concert on the on Tuesday and it literally the concert ended at like nine thirty.

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And for some reason, this woman is still exhausted, well because I didn't get home till like ten thirty. And then that makes wait, I have to share it. I have to share an exchange with my sister from last night. She and my mom are going on a cruise and she said, hey, do you want to go? And I was like, eh, I don't know, and she said, Mom likes to party. I always take her to the Vegas trip when she goes to see her in Vegas. And I said, good, I'm glad you guys will have fun.

I'm so over fun. And my sister replies with that was pretty obvious on our last cruise. I still like to have fun, to which I responded, I'm I've done the things and whatnot. I'm ready to sit down, to which she responded to get off my lawn. And I make no apologies.

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I like this person. Yeah, are you adopted?

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No?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 5

You sure?

Speaker 4

No, I'm not adopted. I'm the quiet one in my family. Am I lying? I'm not lying.

Speaker 5

I'm not lying.

Speaker 8

I have said I've said more to you than I've said.

Speaker 4

To John, So I mean yeah, So there you go, there you go. Anyway, let's do the blog because I got a lot of stuff on here today. We have three guests that I'm very excited or interested in talking to. So let's jump right in. Find the blog by going to and I'm gonna say this very slowly because there are a couple of people yesterday still not getting it. You go to Mandy's blog dot com, no apostrophe, Mandy's blog dot com, No I, A and d Y like the Barry Manilow song. Mandy'sblog dot com. And then you

look right there and it says latest post. You look there and you look for the headline that says five twenty nine five blog A dying man fights to try new treatments. Click on that, and here are the headlines you will find within tech two.

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A winner I didn't do with is in office half of America all with ships and clipmans.

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A that's going to press flat.

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Say on the blog, A dying man just wants to try gays against rumors is still fighting the good fight. How about some glow in the dark Petunias? Why the rush Doug co commissioners? Tariffs are dead for now? Cherry Creek schools did abate and switch. The cover up is always worse. Home healthcare is about to get even pricier. Does anyone know why Trump commuted this gang leader's sentence? Hamas demands Palestinians starve scrolling be on the lookout for

kidney stones and kids. Elon Musk has met his match? Why did the government lie to us during COVID? Democrats have more than a young man problem? Scrolling? Scrolling? Why I don't trust Saudi Arabian one story? It costs? It costs what to replace the battery on a Ford lightning. I'm not sure this is as clever as they think. Not everyone loves the freestyle boarding on the Southwest. Cows love jazz. This cat is not happy. Those are the

headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And if a headline have a cat not being happy is not enough to make you go to the blog to watch the video. I cannot help you can't be done. I got to start with this story, and it's not the most important story. Of the day by any stretch of

the imagination. But do you ever find something out and maybe you had never even thought about this thing before, You've never even considered it, You've never even sort of, you know, noodled it around in your brain, and then you see something and you're like, what I have that happen today? When I saw something on Twitter and it was a guy on Twitter and this is what it says. This is from car dealership guy on X and he just poststuff about car dealerships and whatnot. I mean, I

followed this guy for a long time overheard. I worked as a service manager at a Ford dealership and we had a Ford Lightning come in that needs a battery pack. The battery cost seventy four thousand dollars. The sticker price on the truck in twenty twenty three was seventy nine thousand dollars. Now, I thought to myself, that cannot be true, right, I mean, you just can't be true. That's the craziest

thing I've ever heard. And so I went and looked in I did some digging, and I finally got to an AI that gave me the most reasonable, well sourced answer I could find using Perplexity. AI another Ai'm dipping my toe into you guys. By the time the robots take over, I'm going to be their leader.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Speaker 4

I just want you to know that, so you better be nice to me and use my advertisers and tell him you heard about it from Mandy Connell. I'm just throwing that out there. But I went to Perplexity and they found a very well sourced answer to this. But listen to this. The twenty twenty three fifty f one to fifty lightning battery replacement costs. Okay, first of all,

I should say, and this is what Ford said. Ford says, Look, the whole truck is under warranty for eight years or one hundred thousand miles, so that battery is covered under that warranty. I want to point that out first. We're coming back to that in a moment. The replacement cost for a twenty twenty three Ford f one to fifty lightning battery pack depends on whether you have standard range

or the extended range model. The standard range battery pack uninstalled, so this does not include parts, labor and tax is twenty eight, five hundred and fifty six dollars when you add in parts, labor and taxs. You're looking at thirty two grand to replace the battery pack in this truck. Extended range all in forty grand just the battery is almost thirty six thousand dollars. Now here's the question that I have. Who in the world is going to buy one of these trucks that has one hundred and one

thousand miles on it? I mean, who in the world is going to buy a used vehicle that you're you know, let's just say somebody keeps this thing for eight years and exactly one hundred thousand miles, right, So the depreciation on a car, by the way, seventy nine thousand dollars is correct for the sticker price on this car. So

you pay seventy nine thousand dollars for something. Let's just say fast forward eight years, low mileage at one hundred and one thousand miles, right, You've got an eight year old you're still gonna talk. You're still talking twenty five grand, thirty grand for the car, maybe twenty grand on a good day. And then you're gonna ask some sucker to drop another thirty two thousand dollars on an eight year old vehicle. Where is the resale market for this thing.

This is absolutely the most insane unsustainable It is on a purchase that anybody could ever make. It's like, wow, Wow, somebody just hit the Common Spirit Health text line that you can text by texting five to sixty six nine. Oh with this question, Mandy, how do we find your blog? You people are going to drive me to drink. They're just I know they are, but they're gonna. I already told you I've had a long week in two days, and now you're messing with me.

Speaker 9

Yeah, I know, they're absolutely Wait where do you find the blogs?

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With an eye right?

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You know what I would say to anyone who just sent that if I if you were in front of me right now, textor I would say if it was in your butt, you'd know it. You know that old canard?

Speaker 5

Okay, but how do you put the apostrophe in the end?

Speaker 4

Stop it, Anthony, stop it?

Speaker 5

Okay, Mandy.

Speaker 4

That sounds like an MSRP versus actual situation. Can't be real. I don't know if you're talking about the truck price or the battery ice. But the AI that I used actually links to the Ford website service department website with the pricing for the battery pack. And what is the capitalized no just lowercase Mandy's blog dot com just no apostrophe, no, no punctuation other than that dot double Mandy's blog. You don't even have to put in the triple dub. You don't even have to do it?

Speaker 5

Sound commercial store?

Speaker 4

And how do you spell blog? Now we're encouraging that behavior in my child? Is that n dot com dot com blog b l o g m A n d y s b l o g dot com. Put that in your in your search bar and you're gonna it's gonna pop right up qsblog dot U s A got it? Anyway, back to the Ford Lightning, I mean, does this sound reasonable to you?

Speaker 9

Guys?

Speaker 4

I thought it was crazy when I found no doubt that, Like some Tesla batteries are like seven grand, It's like that's insane. But these truck batteries are massive because they have no towing capacity if they don't have a massive battery. Okay, how do I spell my name Mandy? Thank you? Texter on the common spreen m A n as in nick, d as in dog, why as in why are you asking me all this?

Speaker 5

Are these official phonetics.

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Or Okay, the word why starts with w's, so therefore the mnd.

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W good point.

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And to the texture who has a useful comment, I think that instead of latest posts you should put latest blogs. Trust me on this, we have no control on the way that page looks. Zero. That is a corporate template. Nobody else in the company does what I do here, and so it confuses them. It really does. And I'm not trying to be snorky, but it's it just is too much. So there you go. Oh no, I just bought one of these trucks. Well, I'm just asking what the resale on this thing is gonna be when that

battery starts to go. If I were you, i'd sell it at fifty thousand miles and you know, four years and call it a day. And by the way, if you actually use a truck for work, do you know how fast you're gonna blow through that one hundred thousand mile warranty. I mean, I know some farmers and ranchers that probably put twenty thousand miles on their trucks every year just driving around their farms and ranches. I just don't think this is gonna be Ross taught us how

to waste your time. You know what, I'm gonna blame Kamenski. You're right, Mandy. The easy time to find the blog is to go to Koa's website and the Mandy page. Well, that's how we used to do it, Texter her, and then we got too many complaints that that was too many steps. People couldn't figure it out because they don't know what on air means. Yeah, I can hear Mandy's annoyance and it's funny. AF I have a question for Q. What's it like for Mandy to yell at you one

on one. I'm used to her yelling at us on the radio, and there's been time my butt has been puck. I don't really yell at her. I mean, she has to do something really bad to have me yell at her.

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You like you kind of go home to your cocoon where you don't talk to anyone for about an hour or two because your entire.

Speaker 5

Job is talking. And by that point I.

Speaker 4

Am like getting dinner, I mean, and then I'm going to bed. I am far more animated on this program for three hours a day than I am in any of the other hours of the day. Just letting you know, unless you're on one of our trips, because I'm not doing the show and I have more energy for animation. Otherwise I'm just sitting around doing nothing. Let's see here. I'd love to know from from one of you, the one who said I just bought one of these trucks.

I'd love to know what what brought you to that truck, Like, what did you decide to what made you buy that park? Mandy, I have access to Fords actual parts pricing. I just looked up the battery and the list is thirty five thousand and eighty for the high voltage battery. That's just the part. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. No, no, Wwwrandy Cromwell dot com does not work either, thank you,

textor I appreciate that. I do appreciate that. Mandy. My new business for the year twenty thirty e car to gas conversion kits. No, it's not Mandy vlogg dot net either, thank you text. I hope you people are having fun.

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I just hope you.

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I hope you're all having a good time, having a real chuckle.

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You know we all are.

Speaker 4

I know, I'm just kidding. I do want to talk about what is coming up on the show, We've got a young man who has Dushane muscular dystrophee, and it is it's going to take his life pretty shortly. And he's trying to fight for the right of terminally ill patients to continue to try new drugs and treatments that are not necessarily FDA approved yet. And I have long been an advocate for right to try. I think that you know. I I have a friend who was diagnosed

as a young man. He was probably in his early forties, and he had a bad cough and he went to the doctor and the doctor said, let's just do a chest X ray, see what's going on. And he found out he had cardiac sarcoma, which is one of the rarest forms of cancer, and it is cancer of the heart muscle. So you have tumors on your heart muscle. Obviously, this is not good news. And he went to the I don't know if he went to M. D. Anderson or if he went to the other big cancer treatment center.

I can't remember, to be perfectly honest, but they said, look, we have so few people that have this disease that we don't have a sort of plan on how to attack it. Because we've not been very successful at treating

this kind of cancer. And he said, well what do you have and they said, well, we got some stuff that we could try, and he goes, try all of it on me, Try everything on me, because at a minimum, trying it on me, whether it works or it doesn't, is going to teach you something that is going to help help the next person. So his prognosis, initially, his initial on collogist said go home and get your affairs

in order. You've got three to six months. And he ended up living for almost two more years because of all of these various treatments. But more importantly, he helped the next generation of cardiac sarcoma patients. So even if you think to yourself, you know, in a way, I don't know if I'd want to do that, you would want someone else who was willing to do that to take the chance. And that's what our guest at twelve

thirty is going to talk about. And then at one we've got my friend Rich Gubenheim from Gays Against Groomers. Big news for Gays against Groomers, an organization that is made up entirely like I I cannot join Gays against groomers. They will not let me because I'm not on the proper spectrum. It's only lesbians, bisexuals, transgender and gay men. That's the only people in this organization. They've now been named an anti gay hate group by the Southern Poverty

Law Center. And we're going to get into what a racket the Southern Poverty Law Center has become. They have become such a clown show version of the stand up organization with a strong mission, and now I think that the Southern Property Law Center is actually a hate group in and of itself. Well, we'll talk to Rich at one o'clock about what they're doing about SB twelve thirteen, and then we're gonna talk about glowing the dark petunias. You heard it here first, folks. Plum Creek Garden Market

has the firefly petunia. It is a bioluminescent petunia and they glow in the dark. And honestly, since I've decided now that I'm old, I have to have a hobby for old people, right because I just want to sit down and gardening. Is it not like big gardening, not like English gardens where you know there's multiple people that need to be working on this thing all the time. That's not going to happen. I'm just talking about like plants on my deck, I count that. And what do

I do for you know, my hobby in the winter. Nothing. I just take a break because one can become exhausted from too much. Guys, this just popped up on Twitter, like right now. And if true, big news. If true, France is to ban smoking outdoors in most places. Now, what you have to understand about this is Europe still has a very high percentage of smokers. When we were in Switzerland, I was shocked, shocked. Wait, hang on what percentage percentage of f franch people smoke. Let's see here,

about thirty percent of French people still smoke. That's a huge number, about more than double what it is here in most states. In Colorado we actually have higher smoking rates than I would have thought, but still not close to like Kentucky. But that's only like seventeen eighteen percent. So thirty percent of the people still smoke. If France is banning smoking outside, first of all, as a former and now anti smoker, I'm all for it. I cannot

stand the smell of cigarette smoke. I was driving up twenty five yesterday and like heavy traffic, so we're going seventeen eighteen miles per hour and I had my air conditioner on that it was sucking in outside air, which was stupid, and the person in front of me lit a cigarette with their windows down, and that was all I had in my car, and of course traffic is moving in a way that I can't get out from

behind this person. And I was just like, ah, I mean, I'm not an abolitionist for the most part, but when your habit, when your hobby is just disgusting and gross and makes me stink and gets that smell in my nose forever, then yeah, if you can't regulate yourself, and I guess smoking in your own car's your own choice, I probably shouldn't complain about that, but it was still gross and annoying, I said, former smoker that is now an anti smoker, right, Mandy, Golf is the hobby for

old people. I did that backwards. I started playing golf when I was a kid with my dad, but I have not played. I think I played one time since my daughter was born and she just turned sixteen. Played my whole childhood, teen years college. I didn't play like competitively in college, but by the time I was twenty five, I couldn't afford it anymore. And then I had a kid, and I couldn't afford the time anymore. Maybe I'll go back to that. I have decided that if I turned ninety,

I am gonna start smoking again. Yep, I'm just gonna make it happen.

Speaker 3

Just do it.

Speaker 4

I do miss the business of smoking. Anthony's looking at me like I've lost my mind. I'll explain, not next,

but I'll explain some other time. A young man who has had more than his share of travails because Elijah Tracy was diagnosed with Dushane's muscular dystrophy as a child, and over the intervening years he is now twenty three years old, he has dealt with the physical ramifications, but in his to his credit and I'm pleased he's on the show, he's taken a something that may have devastated someone else and has turned it into working very diligently

for something that could help not only himself but so many other people. Elijah, welcome to the show. First of all, thank you so much for having me talk to me about do Shane's muscular dystrophy. First of all, for my audience, you may not know about the disease. We've all heard of muscular dystrophe, but what makes do Shane's different?

Speaker 8

Yeah, so defend.

Speaker 11

Muscle distrophe is a genetic muscle weight and disease that is fatal. So it happens is as time goes on, they can start to lose muscle. So when they're little kids, they'll probably fall more frequently. Walk on their toes is very common, and eventually they'll lose their ability to walk around ages nine through twelve. Then they'll start to notice upper limb function decline, and eventually they won't be able

to lift their arm at all. And the worst part about the disease is that your heart is also a muscle, and also your diaphragm is a muscle which is responsible for breathing. So about your heart and pulmonary functions start to decline, which makes it fatal.

Speaker 4

So what you're twenty three years old, you've had this diagnosed for sixteen or seventeen years? Am I correct on that?

Speaker 3

That's right?

Speaker 4

Yes, So what is your prognosis from here on out? Elijah?

Speaker 11

Well, I mean, if we don't have any medical intervention. The average life spent historically is twenty five.

Speaker 5

So, you know, but I think that.

Speaker 11

We're going to develop peers and rid above good treatments, and you know, science is moving forward. You know, we're keep increasing that lifespan and hopefully cure the disease.

Speaker 4

Well, talk to me about right to try and why you've become such an advocate.

Speaker 11

Yeah, I think it's really important that patients have the legal pathway.

Speaker 8

I think getting.

Speaker 11

Drugs that aren't available yet more that are going through the clinical process, clinical trials, you know, developing a drugs. It takes a good amount of time, and patients don't have time when they're dealing with antal diseases. So you know, if they're you know, close to the end of their life, I think that they should have the option to at least try something rather than just nothing at all and die.

Speaker 6

So what what are you.

Speaker 4

Looking to try? Are you aware of treatments? Are you looking to get access to information about treatments that might be available? I mean you have specifics in your case, even though you're making the argument in a broader way for right to try. Are there things in the pipeline that you think might be able to help you.

Speaker 11

Oh absolutely, I definitely think there's drugs that you know, I'm eyeing that I think that are are very promising that I love to get access to, you know, things that are a little bit further down the line, like five years looking at like new next generation gain therapy kind of you know, biotech that I think is going to be very promising and and that you know, that's the perfect use of right to try there because with

deshend it's very specific to your mutation. So me and somebody else of detionen are going to have a completely different you know, mutation, and that's going to have to be treated differently. So that's why you're right to try for individualized treatments makes a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 4

Didn't the federal government pass right to try? Or am I am I misremembering this?

Speaker 11

No, you're absolutely correc The Trump administration did pass in twenty eighteen. But this right to try, what we're doing here for individual X treatments is we're going one step further and we're not requiring that safety data so that patients can go today instead of having to wait for that safety age to be complete. So this gives them even faster access to medications.

Speaker 4

Okay, good, because I was I was kind of confused as to why this was still an issue, But that does make a lot of sense. You know, the real issue, and people may not know this, is that a drug, a successful drug, being brought to market takes anywhere from six to about ten years because of the drug approval process. So when you're in Elijah's situation, you don't have six to ten years to sit around and wait for this. What kind of action are you looking for here in Colorado, Elijah, Well, I'm.

Speaker 11

Very very happy with Colorado passing this bill. I actually testified in this and also the Assembly and the government just recently signed it into Lawso I applaud the Colorado government for making this happen, and I'm hoping that doctors become more aware of it and patents as well, and that they can get access to treatments to hopefully save their life.

Speaker 4

I Elijah, I'm going to be saying a prayer for you and for the mission. I think that this is critical. I spoke about my friend David, who had an extremely rare form of cancer, and his attitude is I want to be even if it doesn't cure me, it can help the next person, and that can help the next person. So this goes well beyond your fight, although your fight obviously is significant and incredibly important to helping your fellow man, is that also a part of it for you?

Speaker 11

I mean, put it this way, if it meant that I had to die to save everybody else with dishant, I would. I want to see everybody win with this, and I want the future generations. I never even know this, this disease existed.

Speaker 4

So h Elijah Stacey is my guest, and I put a link to both some information about Elijah and his that is really really good. I watched it this morning. I read the website, and then I put a link to Right to Try and the Right to Try Act just so people can read more about this. This is one of those things, Elijah. I mean, do you ever meet people that say, no, this is a bad idea.

Speaker 11

You know, it's very hard to find someone that doesn't agree. It's very bipartisan, but there.

Speaker 6

You know, there are some, but they're very, very very hard to find.

Speaker 4

Well, I wish you the absolute best, Elijah, and success in this because even you know, if things don't go the way they want for you, you are going to help someone else in the future, and that helps everybody. I appreciate you making time for me today.

Speaker 6

Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 11

I appreciate it.

Speaker 4

Thanks Elijah.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

These muscle wasting diseases, whether it's Luke Grigs. As a matter of fact, a Rod sent me a video. Was that yesterday the guy a year of ALS?

Speaker 1

Or was that?

Speaker 4

Did you send that last week for Tuesday? I can't remember. It was on the blog in the last couple of days. And it's a guy who videotaped himself apart with ALS, which is arterial lateral sclerosis. Wait, that's wrong.

Speaker 6

I know what it is.

Speaker 4

My brother in law died from it. But that being said, you see how devastating these illnesses are, and we really don't even understand why they do what they do. They understand how they work, but they don't understand why it's happening. So all of these things are you know, you could end up saving a family member's life in the future. You just don't know. But I don't know if I

would have the Wherewithal. I mean, obviously he's fighting for his life, but I don't know if i'd have the Wherewithal to be that well mannered, well spoken, you know, going out into the world and putting yourself out there. I admire the heck out of that guy big time, really really big time. From the text line, Hi, longtime text or first time listener, just googled Randy Cromwell's blog and can't find it. Are we going to pull this through the whole show? Is that what we're gonna do?

Speaker 5

Okay?

Speaker 4

Okay, yeah, just okay. We've got news about tariffs, and there's not a whole lot to say, although I do have things to say about it. The Federal Trade Court. First of all, I've never heard of this court. I don't know if you guys have either, but it's apparently been a thing for a really long time. The US Court of International Trade. Who knew that was the thing?

Speaker 9

I did not.

Speaker 4

They have ruled that Donald Trump cannot use an Emergency Powers Act to levy tariffs, and then they also ruled that he cannot levy tariffs, which is weird because not only did prior administrations like Joe Biden keep the Trump tariffs from his first term, he added more without congressional approval. Maybe the Republicans should have sued. We could have gotten to this business a long time ago. I'm going to

tell you when we get back. I'm not sure the White House is super upset about this, because there's a lot of upside in this ruling for Trump. I'll explain when we get back. A federal court on Wednesday. This

from the Associated Press. A federal court on Wednesday block President Donald Trump from imposing sweeping tariffs on imports under an emergency powers law, swiftly throwing into doubt Trump's signature set of economic policies that have rattled global financial markets, frustrated trade partners, and raised broader fears about inflation intensifying

in the economy slumping. The ruling from a three judge panel at New York based US Court of International Trade came after several lawsuits arguing his Liberation Day tariffs succeeded his authority and left the country's trade policy dependent on his whims. Now, the White House has said that trade deficits do amount to a national emergency. I gotta tell you, guys, I always thought that that was kind of like, I'm

not buying what he's selling on that right. You know, they kind of suck, but ultimately cheap goods raised the buying power and therefore raised the standard of living of a lot of people at the lower end of the so economic spectrum here in the United States. They are trade offs, right, Like, there's no no perfect situation, but you have to look at how many people are benefiting anyway. We'll get into that later. I always thought that was just kind of janky, though, I was like, I don't

know about that. The administration, he says, remains committed to using every lever of executive power to address this crisis and astore American greatness. So I don't know what he's going to do next. But this is not all bad. I've always believed, and I've sent in a million times on the show that though Trump has talked about tariffs for a very long time, he's always viewed them as a cudgel, right, He's always viewed them as some kind of bludgeon in order to bring our trade partners to

the table. What he has done has exposed some trade deals that are really wonky and need to be redone. They just they must be redone. So if he gets that ball rolling, and I know that the Secretary of the Treasury has been sending negotiators all over the world to work this stuff out. Then if that's the intended outcome, then we're gonna be just fine. Not to mention watching the way that the tariffs royaled the markets, and they did royal the markets. Who I meant to look and

see what the markets are doing right now? Let me see here, markets are down today. NAZAC is up. Wait nope, uh, Dow is up, but barely. I mean like fifty nine points. That's that's nothing. So the markets are essentially flat because of this. I don't know. Now, there's a lot of frustration building on social media, and I bet if I asked you guys to text the text line at five sixty six nine.

Speaker 5

Oh.

Speaker 4

There's been a lot of people that are starting to get really really angry at the Republicans in Congress because now we have Elon Musk. He's out, he's done. Doje was really good at pointing out disgusting wasted money, federal taxpayer dollars, my money in yours was being squandered and

essentially looted by various organizations. It exposed all that, but Republicans in Congress have not done a damn thing to fix it, and if they were going to pass this big, beautiful bill without any Democratic support, which is what happened in the House, then why did we give everything the Democrats wanted? Why did we put it in the bill? And I'm asking this genuinely, If we didn't get any democratic folks, why are all these democratic spending plans in

the bill? And now people are starting to sit up and Nosco, wait a minute, what was doge? If the Republicans in Congress don't do anything to codify those budget cuts, what was it?

Speaker 3

What do we do?

Speaker 4

What kind of theater was this? And if you think people were angry last time, just wait. There's a lot of things happening in the political sphere that are super interesting to watch right now. I have a couple of stories and we're going to get into them later on the show about the Democratic Party, and the Democratic Party is in a bad way right now nationally. And I have to distinguish because the Democratic Party in Colorado was doing just fine. Their leadership is not remotely the dumpster

fire that the leadership. Well, I'm gonna put leadership in their quotes, right because there is no leadership in the national Democratic Party. They're spending twenty million dollars to find out how to connect with young men. And when I saw that, you guys, I knew that my day had come. And if you go to the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com, just give that out one more time. You are going to see a meme that I had saved on my computer like eight years ago, waiting for the

perfect time to deploy it. And in this story about Democrats literally hiring people to help them learn how young men talk, because they really think the reason young men are fleeing from the Democratic Party is because they don't talk to them with the right lingo. They're not playing video games with them. Instead of going maybe we should

stop talking about all men is being toxic. Why don't we start with that, Why don't we just start from that position, like, hey, all men don't stuck all the time. Let's try that. They don't know they're not doing it. So if you go to the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com, you will see the meme that I have been waiting like eight years to use on the blog and it is a classic. Do you know which Did you know which one I'm talking about? Before I even

tell you? Anthony did you look yet? Do you know which meme it is?

Speaker 5

I mean, I gotta go with mister.

Speaker 4

How do you do? Fellow?

Speaker 5

Can you fellow kids?

Speaker 4

And I've been waiting eight years to use this meme on my on my website, and the Democratic Party just provided for me because they're gonna hire Steve Bushemi Buskemi. However, you say his last name, No, it's actually Buskemi.

Speaker 5

No it's not.

Speaker 4

I've heard him say it's Buskemi.

Speaker 5

Look it up. Use the Google Yeah, Jeff, well.

Speaker 4

I say reces. Anyway, moving on, this is what they're doing their essentially, like we need someone to talk to the young men. Hello, fellow kids. But that's not the only problem they have. And I'm going to talk about the other problem they have with former Democrat Rich Guggenheim from Gaze against Groomer's Colorado. He's joining me next, and oh boy, do we have some stuff to talk about right here.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 9

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Speaker 4

The nice three many Donald Keith, Sad thing. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show. And if you've listened to the show for any length of time, you know I am a big fan of the organization Gaze against Groomers, and an even bigger fan of the guy who runs around Colorado talking about it. That's Rich Guggenheim joining me. Now, Hello, my friend, Hey, are you well?

I'm good, but I don't know if I can continue this conversation now that the Southern Poverty Law Center has named your organization made entirely of lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and gay men anti gay in their latest hate map. How do you feel about that? Rich?

Speaker 6

Oh, well, if they want to go ahead and discredit themselves with that type of calling gay people anti gay, then let them go ahead and do it. I mean, it just destroys your own argument. It's kind of like when our favorite Heidi Beatle over at the Colorado Times Recorder did a newspaper article on me saying that I was anti dragon. Our organization is anti dragon. Then put a picture of me and Dragon the paper.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, I bet you were cute. Did you have the beard then, or were you going like there? You know, did you clean shaven For that, I.

Speaker 6

Was trying to go clean shaven, because have you ever tried getting glitter out of carpet? Just imagine chewing it out in your beard.

Speaker 4

Generally speaking, I bam glitter from any part of my household. What is gays against groomers too?

Speaker 2

Now?

Speaker 4

I know you guys were heavily in the fight for SB twenty five, twelve thirteen. That of course passed with flying colors, and then the governor signed it very quietly on a Friday afternoon. What is next? What is happening with that bill? And by the way, thank you for all you did. And I'm deeply sorry that the Democrats could need to be bothered to pay attention to the testimony of people who came out against it.

Speaker 6

You know, well, as much as it is a disappointment that that bill passed, it wasn't a surprise. You know. I have to say when you heard people like Lorena Garcia talk about how it was quote well stakeholded, I just want to say that a well stakeholded bill does not have over one hundred thousand phone calls and emails

sent to the Senate alone opposing the bill. You do not have a new record of seven hundred and ten people showing up to testify on it, with over five hundred people opposing that bill, and you don't have thirteen amendments to a bill that's not indicative of a bill that is well stakeholded.

Speaker 4

I agree, so you know it is what it is.

Speaker 6

It passed, And then I like to tell people in the process of this, there were four Democrats that flipped, so.

Speaker 5

That was good.

Speaker 6

There are some common sense Democrats here who understand that this is going to be extensive to the state because I already being challenged in courts and it's going to continue to be challenged in courts. You know. I just want to say it's not anti trance to say you're free to believe whatever you want to believe in, but you are not free to impose those beliefs on other people and then.

Speaker 4

Compel them to say vocally that they believe them. And that's really what this bill does. I do know that Jennifer Say and xxxy Sports has filed suit because they are making the argument and I think rightly so to the point you just made that their ability to advertise their product, which is a product that celebrates and tries to protect girls sports is now potentially going to run a foul of this law in the sense that they can't run the advertising they've been running because it calls

biological boys biological boys. And in Colorado that's now something that can bring you up before the Civil Rights Commission.

Speaker 6

Well, and there's other lawsuits that have been filed also by other organizations that I'm aware of, some involving doctors, because now it also forces doctors to practice in a way that they say violates their hippocratic oaths.

Speaker 3

And so there's that piece of it.

Speaker 6

There are teachers and their parents, and there are pastors that are going to be impacted by this and filing lawsuits against the state for this as well. And the reality is, Mandy, we need bills like this to be passed so that there can be cases of harm and damage caused, so that they can sue and they can

be challenged. And it's going to take going to the Supreme Court to overturn this and set legal precedent across the nation to invalidate this agenda and this radical ideology that is an infringement on our First Amendment.

Speaker 4

The saddest thing about this rich is that and I don't know if you would disagree with this. It is going to take some massive judgments against doctors and hospital chains that have done this care by a young person who was swept into gender affirmation only to regret it later. The only way this is going to change is if there are enough judgments against the people that are doing this.

Because you know as well as I do. I looked up this morning the American Medical Association just to see if they had changed their stance in light of all the new information that has come out since the CAST review and this new review that was just released by Secretary Kennedy. But they're still all in. And then I think to myself, well, of course they are. They have a profit motive, and I hate to think that way, but I do believe.

Speaker 3

That I do too.

Speaker 6

I think this is the new gravy train for the pharmaceutical and the medical industry since they've had their opulate gravy train disrupted.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean those two things together, you're like good gravy. And I'm not anti pharmaceutical, but the pharmaceutical companies in the last twenty five years have rolled out enough drugs that they knew were bad and they sold them anyway, knowing that at the end of it they would have to pay a few lawsuits and maybe pay a fine. But they made a fortune from these drugs in the first place. And I hate to think that that's what's driving this, but I also think that's what's driving this.

What's next for you guys at gays against groomers?

Speaker 3

Oh mean, so we're actually I'm working with Protect Kids Colorado.

Speaker 6

And then say on a ballot initiatives that is going to make fairness inequality in girls sports a ballot issue for the twenty twenty six ballots.

Speaker 3

So that's happening.

Speaker 6

We'll just it's already been challenged by our favorite trans rights after this groups in Colorado saying that it's anti trans And the reality is transgender people already have equal protections, but we're going to challenge our privilege. And girls deserve the right, and they have the right to equal playing fields, and they have the right to safety and privacy in their private spaces. And you're not going to use the false premise of equality and rights to take away rights

from women. And at the end of the day, that's what this is about, is ensuring that girls have opportunities on the field that later translate into opportunities academically and scholarships that allow them to go on to college, classroom opportunities that translate into economic opportunities through job of advancement. And who would have ever thought that we would be living in a day or the only thing it takes two strict women of the rights is for a man to put on address.

Speaker 4

I'm going to take it one step further. And I talked about this yesterday. I saw Aaron Lee, who I know you know very well. Aaron posted on x about the fact that in Colorado a transman can now get plastic surgery paid for by their insurance company. But I cannot. If I want to have a boob job, I have to pay for it myself. But if a man decides that he's a woman in order to make him feel better mentally, because nothing says you have to have breast to be a woman, right, I know lots of flat

chested women. I know women who've had double misseectomies and chosen not to do reconstruction. They are no less woman than any woman who does have boobs. So boobs are not necessary to be counted as a woman. And yet now insurance companies are going to be forced to pay for the boob jobs of men who've decided that they're women, and I can't get that same coverage.

Speaker 6

How is that?

Speaker 4

How is that equal protection? And I'm genuinely thinking about suing the state of Colorado if I can find a lawyer to take the case, just for snarky pr to do it, because it's simply not fair to talk about privilege.

Speaker 6

It is, and that's exactly what we need to start challenging with this ideology, is the privilege behind it. But I'll just say this, what does it even mean to be transgender?

Speaker 7

Like?

Speaker 6

What is the criterion for you to actually be transgender or intersex or a non binary?

Speaker 3

Just say that you're.

Speaker 6

Something and then all of a sudden it makes it truth. So I guess, technically, to the woman out there, if you're looking to get a boob job or lip or hip or anything like that, just say you're non binary or make something up, because that's what it all is.

Speaker 3

And just say that and go to your doctor and say no, I identify.

Speaker 6

As whatever, and then make insurance.

Speaker 3

Pay for it.

Speaker 4

Well, now that someone can change their gender three times on a Colorado driver's license. I'm thinking about going and changing my gender to mail and then calling my insurance company and saying, now I'm a male, but I'm actually a trans woman, and I'm going to need a boob job. And while we're at it, can I get rid of my mom gut which is actually a dad gut? Now I want to go ahead and get rid of that too, so I feel more feminine. That's going to be my strategy.

But unfortunately, I'm an upstanding person and not a horrible person, and my conscience will not allow me to pull such cha canery, even though I really want to. I'd rather challenge it on the merits of how bad it is. But Rich, this is driving me crazy. And you're a dude, right, You're a gay man, but you're a dude. This is like the perfect example of men getting whatever they want and women just being told to sit down and shut up. And I'm so over it right now, I'm so over it.

Speaker 6

Well, let's look at this from the other perspective of it, because we're hitting the head of the nail right on the head with a massage, but we're also convincing a whole entire generation of young women that there's something fundamentally wrong with them, and they're uncomfortable with the way they look, and so that must mean that they were born in the wrong body, and then therefore the solution is to

remove everything about them that makes them a woman. So it is it is literally erasing women by telling young women, if you're born in the wrong body and you're really a man, go ahead and do all of the stuff to yourself, mutilate yourself, sterilize yourself, to figure yourself and become a man.

Speaker 3

And that's something that you can ever actually do.

Speaker 6

So it's just it's another form of misogyny, which is the foundation of the whole transriting movement.

Speaker 4

Amen to that, my friend, Amen to that. Will keep you posted on what's going on, Rich because I do think and and here's the bad part about this, I do think that people are starting to wake up and say, wait a minute. You know, we cannot let this tiny,

mentally unstable population decide the rules. We simply cannot. I actually just read a fantastic book and I'm speaking to the author when I get back from Korea and Japan, and it's called The Sin of Empathy, and in it he makes the point that we should not be telling people that they can change gender, which is physically impossible. Your DNA will be the same. We should be supporting them and working their way through whatever just for you

that they have. But if you don't immediately support someone, then you're guilty of not being compassionate enough, and people don't want to be seen that way. I think the tide is turning, and I wanted to ask you, are you seeing negative feelings or blowback coming towards gay people overall because of all this nonsense.

Speaker 6

I think in some ways that is happening. I was excited to see that we finally had a new record. Quite frankly, that was mind blowing to me. Of people to testify against the people have to stay engaged, they have to stay fighting.

Speaker 3

You've got to show up to.

Speaker 4

Your school board meetings.

Speaker 3

You've got to go to your county commissions. It's a Pride month, show up to that stuff.

Speaker 6

My goodness, Let's make sure that we are not exposing children to the sexual content that is meant for adults at Pride and contact your city, county and communities and say this isn't going to happen. This isn't going to happen in my part, this isn't going to happen in

my library. But at the same time, I want people to understand that by and large, the TQIA plus community are just heterosexual people with kink for mental disorders or fetishes, and it has absolutely nothing to do with same sex attraction.

Speaker 4

I will leave it on that. Richnahim from Gays against Groomer's Colorado Division. I appreciate you. I'll talk to you later.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Andy h you two you too.

Speaker 6

Now.

Speaker 4

In the last segment of the last break, I was kind of talking about some of the issues that the Democratic Party is having, and I was talking about how they're spending twenty million dollars to try and learn how to talk to young men from the New York Times, New York Times was the first to report on the proposal, known as SAM for short. As they explained, SAM promises investment to study the syntax, language and content that gains

attention and virality in male spaces. It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things. By the way, what does SAM stand for. It stands for Speaking with American Men, a strategic plan. So here's what they've determined. They've determined that they just are not using the right words right. If only they could get hit to the lingo no cap, they'd be able to connect with young men. Skibbitty. That's all I know. I got nothing else. Rod is now

throwing me out of the studio for saying skibbity. I was trying to connect with American young men.

Speaker 9

Leave.

Speaker 4

That's my daughter who also is telling me to get out of the studio. What are you gonna do with the show? I will I will be the show. No, you're not doing the show unless on skibbitty correctly.

Speaker 7

No, people would want to hear me do the show.

Speaker 4

How do you how do you use the word skibvity in a sentence correctly? That is an elliot question. You're too old for skibbitty? Is that what you're talking?

Speaker 7

It's jen alpha.

Speaker 5

Oh gosh, I think you saying skibbitty is gibbty?

Speaker 10

Is it?

Speaker 4

It's skibbity good or bad?

Speaker 5

It's not good.

Speaker 4

It's not good. Skimbitty's bad. I thought skibbitty was good.

Speaker 5

I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4

It's it's not good. What does it mean? Give me a definition? Go to Urban Dictionary. What is gibbity? Mean in the urban dictionary.

Speaker 5

Bad, cool, dumb, or even a filler word.

Speaker 4

Wait, so it could be cool, so skivity could be good.

Speaker 5

Does not have Oh? No, I'm I'm texting.

Speaker 4

I'm are you texting? Do a group chat? Find out what skivvity means? Your mom needs to know anything, I'm texting.

Speaker 8

No, I'm texting my brother, Okay, because I'm sure his children.

Speaker 4

Will know the answer to that question. Okay, Then let me finish the story about Democrats. So they're they're spending twenty million dollars that someone donated. By the way, some Democrats somewhere donated it. Probably the same woman wearing the hands off My the JJ shirt at a rally. And you guys, I saw and I don't even know how I can say this on the air without running a foul of the government, but I'm gonna try and say this.

I saw a woman at a protest. I saw this on X and she had a sign that said my and then there was a nasty euphemism for lady bits are open to immigrants. She had to have weighed almost four hundred pounds, And I thought to myself, if that doesn't close the border, I don't know what will. But anyway, I'm moving on. I'm moving on because not only are Democrats having a problem with young men, and they've driven the young men out of the party with all your

toxic masculinity crap. You know this, believe all women, even the knowing that some women do lie, and the sort of notion that men are always the oppressors and can never be anything more than the oppressors, and have long held that when you see men at these protests, it's just because they're trying to get laid, like full stop. Now they also have another problem with women. In a column from a feminist about her experiences with Democrats.

Speaker 6

Listen to this.

Speaker 4

Last week, a group of feminist activists met with various members of Congress to discuss women's based women's sex based runts. The group was led by members of the Women Liberation Front and unapologetically radical feminists, organization that supports women and girls as a sex class and opposes the inclusion of men in female only sports and spaces. One of the women in attendance was Irene Lawrence, a board member of Women's Declaration International USA. The group's meeting with Senator John

Fetterman's staff in particular could not have gone worse. According to Julia Hing Fetterman, Chief of staff Jason Smith reportedly mocked a rape survivor and accused the women of lying about the importance of female only spaces. When they told him that women are leaving the Democratic Party over such treatment, he reportedly responded, good, leave go. Then he threw them out of the office.

Speaker 5

Wow.

Speaker 4

Now, hey, Rod, do you remember how many women in sensible shoes there were at the DNC, Like, let me just give you a little window. The RNC, there were so many older women, like, you know, white hair, kind of old women. But then there was a large cohort of really hot young women wearing high heels and tight skirts. Like especially in our little press area at the DNC, there were a lot of women wearing the sensible shoes

and there were just a lot of women. Women have long been the backbone of the Democratic Party, and now they're driving women out of the Democratic Party because they have the nerve to say, hey, you know what, I don't necessarily want to be changing in the gym and look over and see a guy's junk naked, Call me crazy.

And for a dude to say this, I mean you guys, what if John Fetterman's staff is trying to torpedo him, because we already know the Democrats have decided that John Fetterman, because of his support phrase reel, is no longer useful. So I fully expect him to be primaried in his next election cycle by a farther left Democrat because he's just gotten too dang sensible two dang sensible, and that

means he must go. Right if the staff is trying to torpedo him, and they sent this this guy in here with a promise of look, when we get this other guy in, he's going to keep you on his chief of staff, don't worry about it. Just let's make sure that we make Fetterman look as bad as humanly possible. Holy cow, Hey YouTube skibbity toilet? What does that mean?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 5

Yeah, what does that mean?

Speaker 9

Wait?

Speaker 4

There's a skibbity movie?

Speaker 3

What?

Speaker 8

What? What?

Speaker 5

There's a what I mean unless it's not true?

Speaker 9

Wait?

Speaker 10

What?

Speaker 8

What?

Speaker 7

What?

Speaker 6

Okay?

Speaker 4

First of all, wait a minute, I'm going Okay, now, let's see here.

Speaker 7

Why would you do this to me?

Speaker 5

Is making a shibbty toilet movie around all that?

Speaker 9

Lore?

Speaker 7

What?

Speaker 9

I don't know what the lore is just go to skivity toilet and search images.

Speaker 4

Why is okay?

Speaker 1

Do not do that?

Speaker 4

AI says this. AI said. Slang skippity toilet often refers to something that is incredible, bad, or weird, or it can be used as a nonsensical filler word in a reference to the Skibbity toilet YouTube series, where toilets with human heads sing and dance. Now, if that doesn't say we have had enough Internet.

Speaker 8

Yeah, I don't know what does because I've seen so.

Speaker 5

Many Michael bay denies that he's making. Oh thank god, it's gibby toilet.

Speaker 4

No, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 7

Okay, I need you to not I need you to have your crash out later.

Speaker 9

I know that I'm crashing out. That's sad out. By the way, can you tell her what crashing out is?

Speaker 3

What that means?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that means just melting down, Yeah, melting Yeah, I understand the lingo. I'm hip.

Speaker 5

No, that's kibbity.

Speaker 7

Okay, So I'm going to talk now, it's a radio show.

Speaker 4

Gotta keep it moved. Let's go. What do you have to say?

Speaker 8

But I keep seeing people talking about like I've seen people talking about how like like young gen Z even didn't have as much brain rot as Jenna did.

Speaker 7

And then I've seen a bunch.

Speaker 3

Of no.

Speaker 4

On this show. What's the matter with these kids? No, no, wait stop, I am not done.

Speaker 7

Let me finish my sentence.

Speaker 8

And then I see people responding to it, and like the thing is, gen Alpha has like some things that just do not make any sense.

Speaker 10

Like granted we did too, we.

Speaker 4

Did sixteen years old. You have no idea how much stuff is not I finish a sentence? Can I always pay sentence?

Speaker 8

And there's just does not like ours didn't make much sense either, but it was actually like entertaining to anyone.

Speaker 5

That was older than us as well.

Speaker 7

I don't know what's going on with jen Alpha.

Speaker 5

That's the thing.

Speaker 8

Like I've seen so many people that are like all the entire range of gen Z.

Speaker 4

So I'm just gonna say this, just wait, it's just begune. You're not even an old yet, will be back. There's so much stuff. I got to talk about this from a story because this this this almost made my head pop like a grape. Right, So, the international community, including the UN, has done a garbage job getting aid into the Palestinians that I've long had a theory about this, and it's not that they haven't tried to deliver it.

But we know that Hamas has stolen a lot of the aid and is running black market markets so they can sell the aid that is coming in so they can continue to pay their fighters. This is really not in dispute, right, So an organization was created and I love this from CBS News controversial new US and Israel back to Gaza aid effort gets off to a slow, tumultuous start. What are we talking about here? We're talking about the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

Speaker 1

What is that?

Speaker 4

That is an organization that does have some mysterious underpinnings. We're not quite sure who is funding a vast majority of this, but there allegedly was a meeting in Europe sometime in the last year of people that are very wealthy, people that are very sol Lucians oriented, and people that were concerned about the situation of the Palestinians in Israel. Some of them are Jewish, and they created this organization because the UN is hopelessly corrupted when it comes to Israel.

They are absolutely unreliable. We know that suit some UN AID workers actually participated in the October seventh attack. We know that some of the teachers from UNRWA actually held hostages in their homes, and we know that the organization is garbage. I actually believe from things that I've read, but I haven't seen this sort of proven incontrovertibly, so

I have to give that caveat. I've seen that the un AID organizations are actually funneling food to Hamas, So we've got this situation where the Palestinian people are on the verge of dropping dead from starvation. That's what you hear from the media. So the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation said, Okay, we're bringing in food, and they're doing so in such a way that they're trying to be very organized about it. They're just having people show up, they're lining up, and

they're distributing food boxes. The food boxes feed five and a half people. I don't know how you have a half person, but whatever, maybe they're counting kids as a half. They feed five and a half people for three and a half days, and in the first week they gave out four hundred and sixty two thousand meals. It was not without some bumps in the road, though. The Palestinian people broke through the barricades and at one point the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation just had to fall back and let

the crowd sort of loot the food. When people are starving, they behave in ways that are not normal. Some of the stories that Chuck has when he was sent to somaliall on a humanitarian mission, about people in Somalia who, by the way, were being starved in a very similar way. They were being starved by the warlords. They would throw themselves in front of food trucks trying to stop the

truck so they could jump on and take food. And these were just people who were just starving, right, So the gaz of Humanitarian Foundation went completely around the United Nations just basically was like, Nope, we don't need your help. And if you want to know how corrupt the United

Nations is, listen to this. On Tuesday, a spokesperson for the United Nations Humanitarian Office called the work of g HF a quote distraction from what is actually needed, which the spokesperson said was the reopening of crossings into Gaza and the end of Israeli restrictions on the kind of aid entering the territory. Do you know why those Israeli restrictions exist. They exist because a mass was fight hiding weapons and cash to pay their fighters in containers of

baby food. They were smuggling materials that allowed AMAS to rearm and you know, send more bombs over to Israel. That's why the Israeli restrictions are in place. And guess why the UN wants them dropped. Now here's the kicker of this entire story, the fat ass. If I do say so myself, Senior Hamas leader Osama Hamdan had this to say it. If you look at this guy, this guy has that missed a meal in decades. He's a fatty, fat fat and I want to punch him in the face.

And I mean that, I'm not just talking rhetorically. I'd like to punch his face right in the face. You know why, because he had this to say. We expect our great people to thwart the method of receiving aid today just as they thwarted it yesterday. We trust that our people will endure hunger and not extend their hands to the occupier asking for aid. So this tub of lard is now telling the people in Gaza Strip to just starve because God forbid they take aid from something

that might have come from Israel. This is entirely consistent by the way with Amas throughout the years. Many people don't remember that in two thousand and five two thousand and six, Israel forcibly removed any Jews from the Gaza Strip, not Hamas. Israel forcibly removed Jews who had lived in the Gaza Strip, some for decades, had their homes everything,

pulled these people out of their homes. You can go on YouTube and you can find the video of them being pulled out of their homes by Israeli troops in an effort to move to a two state solution. When that happened, there were greenhouses, there were flourishing ways to grow food, there were ways for the Palestinian people to be self sustaining. And you know what Hamas did and the Palestinian people did with that, They destroyed it all

because they didn't want to take anything from the Jews. Idiots. The hate is so irrational and so stupid. It makes it really hard for me to feel sorry for these people. I do, though, I truly do, because even if they voted for this back in two thousand and seven, I'm sure they didn't think it was going to go this way. My nephew told me that the Palestinian people are as oppressed by Hamas as the North Korean people are as oppressed by him, Young Un. And now you got this.

There's not even like what I want to say about this guy, I can't say on the radio because I'll get fired. Just know that that is the depth of my animosity for this man who is telling the Palestinian people who he is allegedly the leader of you know what, just starve. The comical thing about this is that some in the UN are accusing Israel of quote politicizing aid, and they say that the Israelis are using food and distributing food so people don't starve in order to soften

the opinion of the Palestinian people of the Israelis. Really you think nobody seems to comment on the fact that Amas has been stealing the aid and then selling it at exorbitant prices back to the Palestinians that they've been oppressing. One of the reasons I know this is one of the Palestinians was quoted in a story that I read this morning as saying, what do you mean the food is free? What do you mean it's free. It's just free.

We don't have to pay anything. That to me would indicate that they've been paying AMAS for the aid that has been delivered on the backs of taxpayers around the world. To stay in power, Hamas needs to be ground out like a cockroach. And if you've ever tried to kill cockroaches, you know they seem to keep coming back. So he needs to be It needs to be exterminated in a

way that it can never regroup and never regrow. And I don't normally say that about a group of people, but how can you not describe this as pure evil personified starve people rather than take food from the people that we're trying to destroy. Ugh, so disgusting. I want to take this story to all these little Palestinian idiots running around in their CAFs on college campuses and saying, this is who you're supporting, this is who you're aligned with,

this is who you think is a great human being. Morons. So I learned something the other day. Alex Warren is a young guy. He has a very popular YouTube channel. Now he's singing, he's writing music. He's got a few very successful songs, and he came in concert last Tuesday night, and I dropped the que and her friend Grace off at the concert, and then they got back in the car and you were talking about some of the signs at the concert. And little backstory. Alex Warren has kind

of a tragic backstory. Dad died of cancer. I learned this the other night. By the way, I don't just generally have this information.

Speaker 7

His dad died of cancer at nine.

Speaker 4

Well, his dad wasn't nine when Alex was nine. Yeah, okay, sorry. And then fairly recently, fairly recently, like in the last few years, his mom was a severe alcoholic, kicked him out of the house. He was CouchSurfing, a living in people's cars, and low and behold that his mom dies of alcohol related causes. Yeah, so's twenty three year old orphan now twenty five year whatever, young guy orphaned, and he kind of makes a thing of it.

Speaker 7

He has a song called Save You with Seat, And when he went to introduce it when he.

Speaker 8

Did the concert, he literally said that's he was respond reacting to something someone said to him and he said, that's so sweet.

Speaker 7

Anyway, here's a song about my dead parents.

Speaker 4

But apparently people now have taken to coming to Alex's Warren concerts trying to like out trauma at each other with their son. No, there was one that said I'm surviving a brain tumor or something. It was something like my sister got a horse fellow on my sister and killed her. This is one of them that you told me. And I'm like, wait what.

Speaker 8

He was reading signs and he was like really upbeat and then he read someone's sign and he's like a horse fell on her sister.

Speaker 4

Oh shoot, I didn't know. Don't curse on the air, Please don't. No, because he cursed. Yeah, yeah, he would curse and then tell the kids in the audience that Santa would not come to their house if they cursed, which I mean is one way around it. But but I was like, wait, so people are holding up signs about something that miserable in their life as a way of connecting with him. This is a generation thing. We hid are crazy cute. We came inside where it was where it was a point we can tell.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Well, but there was.

Speaker 8

One someone had a sign that said, my mom bet me a hedgehog that I couldn't get a photo with you, and so he took it was a nine year old girl, and he took a photo with this nine year old girl, and.

Speaker 7

As he was taking the photo, he said, you get a hedgehog.

Speaker 4

Well, I lost my father. I mean, you know, part of me is worried about him.

Speaker 12

This yell.

Speaker 4

We worried about him because I think that too much joking about it is bad.

Speaker 8

You know, he's like, he does it in such a way that it's not like the entire show. But he'll say just the name of his tour keeper than therapy tour. Yeah, that's because his songs are okay, no hold on?

Speaker 7

So here Here was the set list.

Speaker 4

The set list. This doesn't mean anything if people have not heard it. That's not the thing.

Speaker 7

The set list is that I will go I can go through the songs and tell you.

Speaker 4

What each of them are about. One moment please, we've got one okay.

Speaker 7

So the first one was burning Down and it was about.

Speaker 4

Well he's got jelly roll, about bloodlines that I saw, lines that I really really really like.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 8

First one is burning Down about someone that betrayed you. Second one, before You Leave Me is about the end of relationship.

Speaker 4

And how he can't let it go. You'll be all right, kid?

Speaker 3

Is a.

Speaker 7

He starts the song with I wish I had the number to my younger self. I'd pick up the phone and say, you're only twelve.

Speaker 4

Okay, So he's giving a mental health evolution in.

Speaker 8

This yard Sale is about getting over getting over something. I don't know if it's getting over a breakup or getting over just it's basically.

Speaker 4

Like losing someone.

Speaker 7

Chasing Shadows is about holding on to someone for too long, like or like.

Speaker 4

So there's holding on to someone you've lost. Because we're almost at a time in the segment. So I don't I don't want to go through the whole song list, but there.

Speaker 3

I'm giving you.

Speaker 4

I'm giving you guff about it. But the way that younger people lead with the worst, like, hey, I went through this horrible thing. I I don't like that. I I think that to concentrate and focus on the worst things that happen in your life and and lead with that in any way, shape or form, even to just kind of garner sympathy or a sign read from a musical act is not healthy.

Speaker 8

The problem is the only thing we have to compare it to is someone is a entire generation of people who has suppressed everything.

Speaker 4

It's worked for us. Just fine, No it has not, Yes, it has not.

Speaker 7

No, no, no, your age that need to go to therapy, but just aren't well.

Speaker 4

I know there's a balance though, there's definitely a balance.

Speaker 8

Yeah, there's a balance that no one has reached yet because we are only we've only ever seen the two extremes.

Speaker 9

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm I'm uh yeah, and we're in the midst of that second extreme. Now when we get back. I have all of these little stories on the blog today. One of them if you've and I have commercials running today for five to five advisors in long term care insurance. If you plan on retiring in Colorado, you're gonna want to pay attention to this next story because the state of Colorado has found a way to make home health

care even more expensive. And if you've ever thought about finding out about long term care insurance, this may push you right over the edge.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 5

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 11

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Speaker 4

Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of There's a Show A couple of things I wanted to talk about before we get into with Someone just pointed out on the text line, did I miss the conversation about Candyland with a que And she will be coming to my defense as I've been accused of being a cheater by the scandalous Dave Logan. We'll do that in a moment, but first I got a couple of things I want

to get out. One last night, there was a town hall by the three Douglas County commissioners about the home rule initiative. And if you want to know why I am a no on this initiative under this current regime, just go look at the coverage. Town hall was an hour long and in an hour they managed to take

six questions from the audience. Six. They want to make the biggest change that they could possibly make, rewrite the essential constitution for Douglas County, and they can only allow six questions from the voters.

Speaker 2

No, no, no.

Speaker 4

And I think that a lot of people who are being sold a bill of goods about a home rule are being sold a false bill of goods about home rule right now because the county commissioners are pretty slick about it. They don't promise that it will allow them to not pay attention to certain zoning rules and laws and things like that. They don't make any promises about that.

They just say this gives us the ability to fight. Translation, lawsuits will be filed, lots of money will be spent, and lawsuits will be lost, at which point they will turn around and go, eh, how were we to know if we didn't see and find out. But the fact that they could not make time or at least make a promise. Instead of making a promise to maybe do another town hall next week and say, look, next town hall, we're just going to answer questions for an hour. Abe

b Laden threatened to call the sheriff. And I'm not even making this up. I mean that's These are the people that want us to vote. Not probably they probably want to to vote for the charter and then also vote to put them on the Charter Commission. I don't

think so. I just think it's incredibly disrespectful. And by the way, every time a county commissioner is shown up at a meeting called by a different organization like the one we had with Douglas County Citizenry where George Teal was kind enough to give us as time and show up for that. They're counting that as a public meeting, and I don't think that's right. I think the County Commission should have been having a series of meetings on

this so everybody could get their questions answered. But this, again is why I am a no on this particular home rule initiative, even though in a different circumstance I would consider voting for it. Absolutely. Oh crime, Andy, I put the wrong link to a story that I wanted to get to. Crap. Okay, I'm gonna have to find it on the next break. But it's about the home healthcare and Colorado is rapidly becoming apps impossible to retire it.

And the sad fact is that we're we as people who are going to be aging, because let's be real, the alternative is not aging, and that's terrible. The statistics for people that need some kind of care are about a little more than three out of four people as we age, are going to need some kind of care, and those are not you know, me being sort of negative, Nelly. This is just the reality on the ground, and care is incredibly important and I can't find this article now.

Dad nabit. I'm just going to go buy a memory. There was a bill, a House Bill thirteen twenty eight. It implemented a number of recommendations made by the Direct Care Workers Stabilization Board. The Direct Care Workers Stabilization Board was created and pushed by unions who want home health care workers to be able to unionize. So now they have passed a bill for direct care workers, which includes nursing aids, home health and personal care aids, mostly utilized

by senior citizens. The bill establishes a seventeen dollars per hour minimum wage for direct care workers starting in July, and encourages the state to increase that wage to twenty five dollars per hour by twenty twenty eight. So let me break this down for you. If you are in a situation where maybe you're caring for a parent, an elderly parent, and you have to go to work during the day, so you're going to hire someone to come in to sit with your family member and take care

of them while you're gone. At twenty five dollars an hour to do that every day to give your respite, that's six thousand dollars a month. And this, by the way, they don't talk about the people in this article that I cannot find now. They don't talk about the fact that they are now pricing people out of the market for that kind of home healthcare, which means that someone is going to have to take care of these older people, which means that people are going to have to leave

their jobs. People are going to have to come out of the workforce, and people are going to have to take a huge financial hit because they can no longer afford having someone come in and stay with their loved one. This is why I'm telling people, like, if you want to keep control of these options, then you are going to have to pony up and buy some long term care insurance because that's really going to be the only

thing that's going to stop it. I hate to say it, all right, mal I got to the article and now I have to log in. Give me a second, you guys, I put the wrong link in. My fault, totally my fault. But I already told you earlier. It's been a rough week, all right, Now here we go. So Additionally, HB thirteen twenty eight tells the Department of Labor to create a free know your Rights training program for direct care workers, including information on wages, family leave, civil rights staff related

to the job, and procedures for filing complaints. It was sponsored by Democrats, passed on party lines, and it also created a sixty million dollar fund that comes from the interest in the Unclaimed Property Trust Fund in the Treasurer's office. And it's those funds, of course, are not just gonna be in the budget. They are created as an enterprise to get around TABOR and it would serve uninsured, underinsured,

and low income patients for home health care. I mean you guys, Yeah, Democrats say, our home our healthcare safety net has strained over the last five years. It's at a breaking point, and we've got to stabilize the safety net the short term while we work on longer term conversations about how we sustainably support our healthcare system in Colorado. Now, I have a question, what happens when we blow through sixty million dollars as more people take advantage of this benefit.

What happens when people claim their unclaimed property from the State of Colorado and they stop earning so much interest?

Speaker 5

Just asking?

Speaker 4

So, you're saying that the people that doing the work should not be able to afford to live because twenty five an hour is a joke in Colorado. That's not what I'm saying at all. But if no one will work at fifteen bucks an hour, then the market says the reimbursement rate for that job will go up. That's how the market works. And the ultimate reality is that if you'd like to make more money in that field, there are lots of ways to make more money in that field. You can go for more training, you can

up your skills, become a higher level of certification. There's lots of ways. Being a certified nering assistant is not a full time, lifetime job. It is an entry level into the healthcare field job. In my view, or in the case of a lot of the women that we hired to sit with my grandmother at the end of her life, they had had long careers doing something else and they became a CNA to fill the gap in

their social security. They were all over sixty five. And so don't come at me like somehow we should change the law to favor this group of people for whatever reason. Why don't we make the minimum wage fifty dollars an hour? Then you can live in Denver, right, No, you can't. Because it jacks up the cost of everything else. Mandy, long term care premiums will skyrocket. I don't know if they will or not, because you're basically paying for X

amount of dollars. I don't know if this will have a huge impact because in other parts of the country, I'm sure this care is also expensive. It's worse, says this texter if you can't find long term care for less than forty dollars an hour because the umbrella company is paying the minimum wage to care workers and taking a cut. Yeah, yeah, yep. Anyway, we'll be right back on the Common Spirit Health text line today is National Inform your daughter She's adopted day, and it would make

for great radio. Trust me, this kid is not adopted. Well, there's too much You know how when you see your kid do a particular thing, it maybe isn't the best thing, and you just look at him and go, yeah, that's that's my genetic material in that action. Both my husband and I have had those situations with my daughter. But I want to have her on this segment to talk

about one very important thing. Apparently, one of the afternoon hosts, mister Dave Logan, has said during KAA sports that he believes I cheat that of the day, and I'm deeply afec You should see her face right now. She is perplexed. It is a genuinely perplexed face right now. She was here to a test. When you were small. Do you remembers playing candy Land together? Do you remember that?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 4

Did I ever let you in to your knowledge?

Speaker 8

I remember like playing candy Land a lot, but I don't remember like the end of the game.

Speaker 4

Did I ever not make you take your piece back to the let's the cinnamon nol or whatever has made you do that?

Speaker 3

Right?

Speaker 4

So you, I mean you would have tested. I don't cheat at games, and I don't like people who cheat at games. No, not at all, because when I was the kid, somebody cheated and I lost it and I did not like that feeling, and I was like, Nope, I'm not doing that to someone else. So I need you to stay at the end of the show and tell Dave Logan that he's wrong and that he's a scallywag, and I will have no part of this anymore. And he owes me an apology on the air. You are

my ride. I have no choice but to say, you're supposed to say, Okay, Mom, I have your back, but.

Speaker 5

You are my ride.

Speaker 4

Where am I gonna go? Like, genuinely, where am I going?

Speaker 9

You're going?

Speaker 4

The bigger point, which is I need Dave to understand I do not cheat. I can't stand it. I can't even stand the family rules that exist my husband and the boys before I became a part of their life, they played games, but they had all these family rules. Like we played Uno wrong for years before I actually looked at the rules because I didn't really know. I didn't I'm not a big card player until I met Chuck,

and I'm still not a huge card player. But we were playing by the wrong rules because it was the family rules. I hate family rules. I just want to have the rule book. Everybody used the rule book. The people who made the game made the rule book for a reason. That is all we did teach her, though, how to have a bloodthirsty style when playing. Sorry that I think she's kept to this day.

Speaker 7

Wait, I don't I have.

Speaker 8

I think there's one exception to what you just said. What when you guys were playing the new Uno game Uno No Mercy No? Because Dad, I don't know who it was, but he said someone when they were playing got out because of the twenty five card thing.

Speaker 4

Okay, if you don't play, you know, they've got these new versions of the card game UNO, and who knows, really fun. It's kind of idiot proof game, like even for people like me that don't understand things like when someone tries to explain a card game in my brain, it sounds like wah wah wah wah wah. Yeah whah.

Speaker 7

The only time it's going to be difficult for you is if you're color blind.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yes, that could be a problem. But they have this new UNO what is it called No Mercy No Mercy, And one of the rules is if you get twenty cards in your hand, because if you can't make a play, you got to keep choosing cards. If you get twenty cards in your hand, then you're out. And I'm like, I sat and watched. I went out maybe in the first two hands, and I sat and watched everybody else play cards for an hour and a half. So we

changed that rule. That rule sucks. Yeah, you got to pick up ten more cards now in our game and go from there. What is your favorite game that we play? You left Payday there for a while, you were mad with payday power. He was going around the payday calendar making sure she was getting all those pay days. She was loving it.

Speaker 8

I I really enjoy mostly if I'm playing with my friends. I really enjoyed life because, oh my god, did I tell you about the incident when Lily and I were playing No, but you have one minute? Yeah, she got so many because they have pets, the new version they have pessed now she had she refused to have any man.

Speaker 7

In her car, which I thought was really funny. But she also had.

Speaker 8

Three pets, so she had six human beings in her car.

Speaker 4

And then she had two animals.

Speaker 8

Sticking at the top. And then I had no because she didn't know where to put the last.

Speaker 4

It was a crazy cat lady in the life game.

Speaker 8

No, she had a two fish and something else. I think it was like a raccoon because it was one of the pet cars.

Speaker 4

No, she wasn't getting in iguana. Okay, So now to this texter who said, I'm so glad I've heard every chapter of this saga so far. Dave Logan's ludicrous accusation been all Bright outing him to you, and now you were feuding this accusation. Great radio full circle and this person said, and with all due respect, you have an incredible desire to win all the time. I think Dave is misunderstanding your competitive nature for a cheating nature. That is a great point, and I think Dave is just

a little confused. This texter said, Q should be driving the tundra. She can drive the tundrall she wants. I don't drive the Tundra. Nope, it's too big.

Speaker 3

No, thank you.

Speaker 4

When we get back, talk about switching gears, glowing the dark petunias, anyone, and I'm being serious. That's coming up next. I have Audrey Sharp and I have Matt Neman, and we are going to talk a little bit about my new hobby as an elderly person now at the age of fifty five, I have decided gardening is going to be my jam. And I loved garden on my deck

because the deer eat everything. I was just talking to Audrey and Matt about that, and they brought in some beautiful flowers that I will be putting on social media in just a moment. First of all, guys, welcome to the show.

Speaker 5

Thank me, thanks for having us.

Speaker 4

I have to ask, did you become a gardener before you worked for Plumb Creek or did you work for Plumb Creek because you were a gardener.

Speaker 13

I became a gardener even more since I started working for the company. But I think I definitely have those memories of growing up with my grandparents and my mom. I was raised in Alabama, so I remember the smell of honey. Oh yeah, it's very nostalgic to me. I think we've just taken more of a professional step.

Speaker 4

And there you go, Matt. Were you a gardener first?

Speaker 3

I was not.

Speaker 12

I do remember when I was a kid in Wichita, Kansas. My grandfather was a rancher before that, and he would wake up in the morning. We would both get up at about five am, and he would drink his coffee and smoke his camels and as they did, as they did, and we would wander around and is in his gardens after eating ice cream for breakfast.

Speaker 5

And that was my earliest memory.

Speaker 12

But certainly since COVID and since I've been involved with the company, that has changed dramatically.

Speaker 4

I wanted to ask you guys, and we're going to talk about plants, and we've got glowing the dark petunias and all kinds of cool stuff. But I read something earlier this week that said that young people are now starting to garden in earnest and like my grown kids are a perfect example. He and his wife. They live in Ohio, but they just put in a massive vegetable garden because they want to learn how to start canning

and doing all of this stuff. Are you seeing any kind of demographic shift in your business.

Speaker 10

Absolutely.

Speaker 13

I think becoming like a home setder definitely evolved with a COVID, But now I think people just stand by it because they're just so proud to know everything that they're growing.

Speaker 10

Everything they're eating. I mean, I think it's of all ages.

Speaker 4

But I agree with you.

Speaker 13

I think we definitely have a new demographic that have come in that are the younger generations. These are young kids that just are choosing to, you know, spend the night's gardening at their house. I think it's just a new generation of people just more thoughtful and trying to enjoy life in a different way, and gardening is a huge part of it.

Speaker 4

Well, it doesn't hurt that everything got so expensive at the grocery store.

Speaker 13

You're going out even getting girls for drinks. Yeah, now you have the hour in your garden exactly exactly. Let's talk about trends. You know, like everything else, there are trends in gardening. You guys brought in some absolutely gorgeous dohlias, and I don't remember seeing as many dahlias because I am a serial peruser.

Speaker 4

Of garden stores. I often peruse without even buying anything. I just go visit friends either, Yeah, exactly, and I see a lot of really gorgeous dahlias this year. So is that like kind of the thing this year because I don't recall seeing this many previously.

Speaker 3

I think so.

Speaker 13

I think the jefinitely was a demand last year among our markets. So we upped our game and we added a ton more varieties, different heights, different sizes. That selected some beautiful labellogeous, really really good. These are just all summer color. Don't be afraid to deadhead, but you're not wrong. We have doubled probably our selection of dahlias. It's definitely the showstopper flower of the summer. You can fill a whole pot of them or put them in the middle, and it's your most It's.

Speaker 4

Going to be your thrillers, filler and spiller. So I know I adopt my new hobby with a great deal of vigor. So I am up to speed on that. So do you guys get feedback? So you just said last year you had a lot of people asking for what are people asking for this year? That you're like, next year, we're going to have to bring some of that stuff in.

Speaker 13

I definitely think more natives, more jout tolerance, people are more water weise conscious. We have a huge selection among annuals and perennials, mostly perennials. We're talking annuals would mostly be succulents, but perennials were really dove into a native selection that is available at all five locations. And these are things that are going to come back bigger and better.

They're meant for environment and their jout tolerance, so they can go on the edge of your outside peripherals where you don't have water set up and you don't have to worry about.

Speaker 10

Them, and these things just go gangbusters.

Speaker 13

They're meant to live here, and you know it's an alternative too. There's a lot of groundcover options for natives.

Speaker 4

I was going to ask you about that specifically because I have a patch of grass that I want to replace with groundcover because it just is crappy dirt. I mean it just I don't want to deal with it anymore. I want to be able to turn off the sprinklers on that side. But what works for groundcover if you do, because I you know, man Nita Floridian. So I'm from moisture, right, I'm green. I want green things. I don't love the rock zer escaping. I just it does not work for

me aesthetically. So is groundcover, like a clover or something like that a better option?

Speaker 1

You know?

Speaker 13

I think that could be an alternative for grass cover. Yeah, but if we're talking groundcover, I think people that are like team groundcover, team no.

Speaker 10

Mulch is what I mulch.

Speaker 13

If you want to just eventually phase it out, it doesn't have to be done overnight, doesn't have to be done in one season. This is something that can take two years. That's three seasons. Though by season three most things are established, so it's not that long of a commitment. If you want to think long term to get rid of the mulch. People hate doing it every year and

to begin with. So clover for grass, yes, but I would say maybe like moss or lamea beautiful flowering groundcover that stays low, so it is a nice edger.

Speaker 4

That you can put instead of mulch, and it's encouraged.

Speaker 3

Do it. Why not?

Speaker 13

It gets bigger and better. We have lamium as a big favorite at our house, and I let it do its thing. At the beginning of June, I probably cut it back and I transplant it elsewhere. I've probably have my whole backyard filled with only two plants I bought. But it expands every year, bigger and better on perennials, and you can just cut it out, transplant it somewhere else you want to cover, you know, that same plant to cover dirt.

Speaker 10

Same thing.

Speaker 13

If you've got like an area of grass that's spilling out dirt, just edge it with some groundcover.

Speaker 10

We'll keep the roots at bay and team.

Speaker 4

No mulch, Tame no mulge. So do you guys at the stores, because these folks are with Plumb Creek Garden Market. I keep wanting to call you nursery and it's a garden market. Are the people that work there as knowledgeable as you?

Speaker 7

Like?

Speaker 4

I can come in and say, hey, I heard Audrey talking about this groundcover on the radio, because that's a big frustration for me. When I go into a garden store with the question and I feel like I know more than they do, and I don't know that much. So do you guys kind of hire people that have this knowledge?

Speaker 6

We do.

Speaker 12

Actually, we have a ton of people that have worked in the industry for decades. A lot of them actually are just gardeners that are retired right They've been gardening in the Denver area for thirty forty years and they just want a part time job and they want to work with people in gardens and beautiful flowers. So there is a ton of knowledge on our floor with most of the people that you'll talk to.

Speaker 4

For sure, that's very helpful.

Speaker 10

We encourage you guys to come in.

Speaker 13

It's free consulting and you know, a lot of the things that I think we all learn among our staff and among gardeners, it's just we share knowledge as it's the culture of being a gardener. I'm sure when you're in a garden center, you don't mind talking to somebody next to you.

Speaker 10

What is your tricks? What is your tips?

Speaker 13

And a lot of the base that we learned were learned. You know, we ask questions to the older people, to our grandmas. They've gone through it. They're forty fifty sixty year old home gardeners. So sometimes the best knowledge you have is from the older women in your family or the coworkers we have that.

Speaker 10

Work for us.

Speaker 4

I'm the only person in my family that has anything endured currently like I am like, we're like the anti gardening family. So it took me a very long time to even feel confident that I could plant things and grow things because I was telling them I can't plant in my yard. But the flip side of this is that I'm trying to learn patience. To your point about you plant this groundcover and in three years, three seasons.

Speaker 10

Seasons only two years, I know, but it's three seasons.

Speaker 4

That has been the hardest thing for me to recognize. I replanted to bed last year, and I'm not gonna lie. I got so excited when I came out and I was like, oh my gosh, they're coming back. So now I'm here two of my of my bed that I've planned it last year. But it is a patience game, and it's just that satisfaction you feel you did that you built, that you grew it, and it came back bigger and better.

Speaker 13

It just makes you want to put in more, you can always find room in your garden to put more things.

Speaker 4

Yes, Matt, let me ask you this. Where do you guys get the plants?

Speaker 12

Well, we actually have a sister company that we get eighty or ninety percent of our plans from here in the Front Range. But we have great relationships with four or five different greenhouses and farms that are all on the Front Range. They're small, locally owned. They all select high quality seeds and cuttings to start with. So everything that we sell from any of the farms on the Front Range that we source everything from are the highest quality plants that we can actually source anywhere.

Speaker 4

And they're ready for our climate.

Speaker 5

They are exactly that Colorado is like.

Speaker 4

You know, we got a whole thing going on there. What are what are these things that you brought? And I'll put this picture on our social media. I'll send it today, Rod to have a putter on Koa social media. We already talked about the dollies, which are gorgeous. What's in these baskets? Are these petunias as well?

Speaker 10

Ar These are.

Speaker 13

Beautiful crazy Tonna. These are going to be the Johnny Cash petunias.

Speaker 4

And you get a flower named after you? How do you get that gig? Like I'd like a mandy candle something. We all cactus.

Speaker 13

We always say that who gets to name the flowers the craziest names. They've named so many things, so many things that we run out of words, so they just make.

Speaker 4

They're just making stuff. Okay, So the Mandy donald Dahia could be a fave.

Speaker 10

We make that happen.

Speaker 4

Yeah, there we go. What is that big spiky one?

Speaker 10

Is that a that's actually a rocky mountain penstemon?

Speaker 4

That is a native that looks like a lupine or a snap dragon, but not quite as showy.

Speaker 13

And you know, you can have color with natives. People think like dry and green when you think native plants. It's a beautiful perennial with the color pop. There's some Glardia blanket flower that stays pretty low that would be

a fantastic plant to plant in front of it. There's also some wine cups that Matt brought in, those hot pink that's a fantastic ground cover, right that kind of you just plants at the edge and it swims in between things behind it, and it surprises you when you see that color pop.

Speaker 10

But that's another great ground cover.

Speaker 4

Just if you already have mulch, you have to take the mulch out because ultimately mulch will dissolve someday. So can you just plant this and let it go, or do you have to remove the mulch first.

Speaker 13

I definitely think the area that you want to go in the ground, you need to remove the dirt. You should be thrown at some compost, some type of amendment in the soil to begin with, right, and then once you get it in ground, you can recover it with some mulch. But you don't have to get rid of all the mulch. I know, it's a big commitment. It's a lot of area. When people want to slowly get rid of mulch, just concentrate on one area at a time.

If it's not, you know, feasible to do the whole area in right summer, But you do want to edge out the mulch as you edge in plants.

Speaker 4

I got a couple couple of things that people want to know, Mandy. Would you ask your guests what is the best weed killer there on the market, or how do you make the best weed killer? Because I have weeds and I've tried all kinds of different solutions and products and nothing's really killing these weeds.

Speaker 13

You know that that can be a controversial answer, but there's many ways to approach the weeds that don't have to be chemical wise. Definitely vinegar. I'm sure she's done the holistic options. But the other option that you can do, like you had mentioned earlier, is clover things that will fight out the weeds, that will weed them out right.

Speaker 10

Clovers.

Speaker 4

Buddies love clover, they do.

Speaker 10

Bunnies love anything that is great.

Speaker 4

We have bunnies. Those are the only protected animals in our yard. My husband's very fond of the bunnies too, cute, extremely fond of the bunnies.

Speaker 13

The un implement rock gardens. You can definitely do some like prolific groundcovers for the roots could maybe beat out the weeds themselves. But that's something that you can come into the market, find somebody, talk to them.

Speaker 10

We're talking.

Speaker 13

Let them know if you're talking center shade right in a groundcover you're looking for. But there are options that can be plants versus chemicals.

Speaker 4

And they have five stores. By the way, plum Creek Guard Market has five stores throughout their front range. Let's talk about these these glow in the dark petunias. What do we got here?

Speaker 13

Oh, these have made it into our market. I think they've been on the market three years. The last few years customers have been asking and we have been a little skeptical. But this year we brought them in and I definitely believe in them. They're bread with a mushroom. That's what gets the bioluminescence. And I think they kind of have a built in fertilizer system with those mushrooms. They're pretty vigorous, right, don't need any fill, you don't

need any spill. The petinias do their thing in their own pot. But they glow in the dark, truly.

Speaker 4

I had a listener actually send me a paragraph of their of their petunias glowing in the dark. They have a very similar luminescence to the lumin essence you would see.

Speaker 13

In the ocean exactly. And the butt is actually the brightest part. So as they burst open and bloom, it's kind of a neon green ombree, but they're actually the brightest before they pop open.

Speaker 5

I want some of these.

Speaker 10

They're so cool.

Speaker 4

We couple I have I have like railing pots that go over the railing, and I have petunias all in the sides of those because they're so pretty and they get so big and gorgeous. But I was like, man, if I had those, they could provide a little outdoor lighting. How much light do they have to get during the day in order to only because we've had so many cloudy days as it lived, and.

Speaker 13

You know, they're doing just fine. They'll get caught up if yours, you know, haven't been growing. Everyone's been under some cloud cover. But at least six hours right full sun needs six hours here on west side facing our altitude. Son, you know, you can creep back to like five or so, but they their son in order to grow.

Speaker 4

Somebody said there's a mandy con, a weed very invasive and prickly. Probably probably. I can't even say no. Here's a question on seeds. I personally have had zero luck growing things from seeds and then getting them outside. I can grow them from seeds, but then when I take them outside, disaster occurs. Everything dies, and I finally gave it up. So this person said, I ordered some seeds

supposed to be morning glory. I grew them inside and they don't look like what they're supposed to, and they said, can you tell me what you think they are? I guess if you brought them to a garden center, we.

Speaker 10

Might tell you for sure.

Speaker 13

Yeah, that's what we call it gardener's surprise. They always end up being your favorite. Sometimes things get mistagged, but they always end up being your favorite.

Speaker 4

But you can never It's like that recipe where you're just winging it and.

Speaker 10

Somebody's like, make it again.

Speaker 4

You're like, I have no idea what's in this pot right now? So that's kind of the same shore.

Speaker 10

We definitely cannot pinpoint whatever it is, though.

Speaker 4

Yeah, bring in a picture of it, or bring the flower in whatever. Mandy, I just discovered that Lafayette actually has an official flower. It's the wild blue flax. To other areas, cities have an official city flower and is the fireflag glow in the Dark petunia available at your guests eerie location. That from Andy, it sure is okay. So, but do you know about city flowers?

Speaker 10

I mean, we definitely blue flags and we love it. I didn't know cities had their own. You love to know.

Speaker 4

I'm just going to give you guys a little marketing idea for free. You go to a jewelry store, and they have the little cards that have all the birthstones. You should have all the city flowers, should and just be like care find your city and buy your flowers.

Speaker 10

Of course you do by neighborhoods park Wash Park.

Speaker 4

There you go, Mandy, can you ask her about if they can get the black plant stems with colored flowers? Saw it in wheat Ridge. Can't find them, now, that might be a little too vague. It just says black plants, and then it says stems.

Speaker 13

We do have black stemmed can or cannon cali lilies at the beginning, black leaves, black blooms.

Speaker 10

But it's a spring bloom, a.

Speaker 5

Stockings.

Speaker 13

That might be what she's talking about, purple bloom, but it it's got the black stem.

Speaker 10

That's why it's called black stockings. The meadow room maybe.

Speaker 4

Oh, but if it's all.

Speaker 10

Black again, we can we can answer by pictures well.

Speaker 4

And also you could just check the Eerie store as well. Since you're up in wheat Rig, I think that's probably the closest one to you. Maybe the one in Littleton, depending on where you are.

Speaker 9

Mandy.

Speaker 4

There's an app that my wife uses and identifies the plants trees and grasses whatever it is. I use Google MS or whatever. I use Google Lens all the time. You agree.

Speaker 13

I tell people it's better than any snap app I've ever used, and it's free, and it's more accurate because if you do a picture five times in the plant apps, they're going to give you five different answers.

Speaker 4

Exactly. By the way, Matt, that other dude talking should be on the radio. What a voice? This plant thing?

Speaker 1

Does?

Speaker 4

It work out? So guys go find Plump. It's like Plum Creek Garden Market. They have locations in Castle Rock, Eerie, Golden Greenwood Village, and Littleton. And if you need anything for your garden, this is a great place to go. By the way, don't forget to pick up all the stuff that I forget. This is the first year that I went to a garden center and I actually bought the compost that I needed. I bought the fertilizer that I needed. I bought enough dirt. Oh here's the question

that I've always want the answer to. I only garden in pots, so I'm a debt gardener. How often can I reuse that dirt?

Speaker 10

Three years?

Speaker 4

Okay, that's good, That's what I guess.

Speaker 10

Yes.

Speaker 4

This year I did get a big thing of compost and mix it all together to sort. Yeah, and a little compost perfect, Okay good. I wondered that I'm just like I bought new dirt last year and I thought to myself, how long can I ride this dirt because I save it at the end, and I thought three years? So there you go on the sweet spot. Last question, would vinkas with purple flowers be a good groundcover for Colorado?

Speaker 3

Really?

Speaker 4

What are vinkas owls?

Speaker 10

Cunningham?

Speaker 13

Is the vinka groundcover that's green with the purple little flowers. Yep, It's gonna be stringy, so people use it for spillers, but it's also a great groundcover option.

Speaker 4

Okay, perfect. She's out on the couch. She was going to play of the Day. Well, I don't know. I hate to throw guests who have never like, don't know what of the Day is into the mix. But is this microphone being taken right now? Or can ce use that one? Okay, yeah, go grabber. She's out there, I said, Q away, my daughter, she's been in here. We play a dumb game at the end of every show. Would you like to play? It's a trivia game. I would love to Oh, are you in sure? Okay, it's very

very simple. And while he goes to get my daughter, she's coming in to use the microphone or do you want her to go to the newsroom. Oh, Aro's gonna take care of it. Here's how the game works. It's called of the Day. It's very dumb and Q. You can yell in the world, right, yes, you can. You know how to do it. You know how to yell in the world. I'll make a Rod do it. Okay. She's totally waving me off, like, please, God, don't make

me do this anyway. It starts like this, a Rod, you got to do the yell.

Speaker 1

I go.

Speaker 4

And now it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio of It's kide and then.

Speaker 3

Of the Day.

Speaker 4

And first we do a dad joke of the day.

Speaker 5

Oh wait, yeah, yeah, you don't have that price?

Speaker 9

Oh we do?

Speaker 4

He has phones hang on one second.

Speaker 3

Day.

Speaker 5

This is poorly planned, I know, terribly planned.

Speaker 3

Those to my daughters.

Speaker 4

She knows what you do today, and I'm gonna give you these and we're going to do this. Hey, Rod is going to tell a joke.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna do that while you get phone.

Speaker 4

Go ahead and do that.

Speaker 5

Dad. Joke of the day.

Speaker 9

I told my boss sorry, I'm late. I was having computer issues. Boss says hard drive. I say, no, the commute was fine. It was my last job.

Speaker 4

We do Word of the day. This is where he gives us a really hard word and we have to guess the answer or definition to the word.

Speaker 5

It is an adjective.

Speaker 4

You got it right, Oh, there you go. Yeah, No, there we go, There you go. Now we're in.

Speaker 5

It's active adjective.

Speaker 4

Nascent, nascent, nascent, N A, S C E N T.

Speaker 3

Correct.

Speaker 4

That is on the decline, that's on the decline, something on the downslope.

Speaker 5

I think it's the opposite.

Speaker 4

It's rising.

Speaker 9

A formal word you should describe something that is just beginning to exist or in other words, recently developed.

Speaker 4

Well done, well done. Now we have a trivia question. What is the name of the twenty twenty two satirical psychological thrillers TV series that starves Kristen bell as Anna, a woman who witnesses a gruesome crime in her neighborhood and tries to sniff out the killer.

Speaker 3

I have no idea.

Speaker 12

The woman across the streets in the window behind the door.

Speaker 4

Not you're on fire right now. It's close and I'm gonna give it to you because the actual title is the woman in the house across the street from the girl in the window. Yes, and I'm afraid to tell Matt how to play this last part, okay, because it's Jeopardy. Okay, it's our version of Jeopardy, though it's a blood sport. You do not have to wait until the end of the question. You just have to shout out your name if you would like to answer the question.

Speaker 5

That's all about to wait, Mandy Connell.

Speaker 4

I have to wait because you're new and we're being nice. But what is the category?

Speaker 5

Four letter words with an X. Four letter words with an ex start with an X means there's an X in the word.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 9

In twenty fifteen, CNN reported thirty percent of teens have broken up or been broken.

Speaker 5

Up with this way. Man, oh, Jay, Matt not text.

Speaker 4

That is correct. You gotta also answer the form of question. I'm gonna give you that one. That's killing it right now. I'm not letting him play anymore.

Speaker 9

Passing this number four on I eighty East in Utah. You might want to be aware that number forty one. The upcoming one is thirty seven.

Speaker 4

Matt, wait, oh, Matt, Matt.

Speaker 5

What is an exit? That is correct?

Speaker 9

Someone who brings nothing but bad luck might be called a this. It's also in the title of a docu series about Robert Durst.

Speaker 4

Many test wrong.

Speaker 3

Dang it?

Speaker 5

Oh, I watched this one too. What is a jinx?

Speaker 4

Jakes my dog's names?

Speaker 9

If you missed the faery on Fire Island, you can get where you need to go on a water this.

Speaker 5

There's no meter, though, Audrey, Audrey, Go ahead, Audrey.

Speaker 4

What is the taxi?

Speaker 5

Mandy? You about to get shut out?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 5

I am about to get casually.

Speaker 9

Mentioning to the deli meat guy at Costco that you made it on Jeopardy might be this slang for bragging.

Speaker 5

Come on here, this is yours? What is a flag?

Speaker 4

Well down?

Speaker 5

Andy? Shut out? Well down? Never?

Speaker 4

I got MIAs one, I got negative. It was terrible for coming in. Go see him at plum Creek Garden Market. We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it on, KWA

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