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Mandy Connell joined again by my right hand man. Back from the brink of death. He has pulled himself together to make it back into the office today. That's Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him and rod Is that how you feel today?

Reaccurate? I chose that one randomly. That is just perfect, you guys.

I I was running late get into the office, and uh, I feel it. You know how when you're you have See here's the thing. I've had jobs where you could be late before, and then I've had other jobs where you cannot be late.

I e.

I was a flight attendant and one of the things I tell you in flight attendant training is the plane isn't going to wait for you to show up, and if the plane leaves without you, well you're on your way to being fired. That's just the way it is, which seems reasonable in the grand scheme of things. So today I my daughter had a dentist appointment, YadA, YadA, YadA, and I was racing to get here, not really racing, officers, if you're listening, but I was moving with purpose to

Which I never do. It's like anxiety. So I'm just like in through the nose, out through the mouth.

I usually get here in plenty of time, like Kibbitts, and you know, do some stuff. Let's go to the blog, shall we, because boy, how doy do we have a lot of stuff to talk about. And as I come down off the anxiety ledge from almost being late, I'm sure it will be a great show. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline in the latest post section that says five twenty eight to twenty five blog How's things

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We are practically a rainforest these days. How's business on sixteenth Street? Derek Wilburn's accuser is on at two thirty. We've got to talk about this today. Free boob jobs for dudes in Colorado. Now, this wasn't a playful slap scrolling. Okay, seventies kids, what you got? Demarius Thomas is going into the ring. DPS responds to its creative financing scheme. George Brockler's social media posts have him in hot water kept killing Lewis's family files suit. NBR has a right to

Stop reading Whindy Mommy bloggers. For one.

The ticks are bad this year. Government is the reason housing is so expensive. Racist Chicago mayor rips Trump, Kyle Clark nails the rebrand, the truth about alcohol. Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And no, I'm sorry, eleven fifty four is when I got in here. Thank you Texter. Eleven fifty four. That's that's kind of

I don't have that luxury.

Oh, the guy that thinks you cheat of the day, I am so salty about that right now. I'm still mad. You could ask my husband. I do not cheat. I don't cheat it board games. I don't cheat at card games. I don't cheat it golf. I have not one, but two different golf rule books in my golf bag, one from the USGA, one from the PGA. We can decide whose rules we want to play with. So the fact that Dave Logan has been spreading falsehoods about me of

Dear mister Logan. Yep, well the comments out there already, so the damage has been done.

Yep. Yeah.

Anyway, we've got weather Wednesday coming up at twelve thirty. I'll try and move past that a little bit of nonsense. And uh boy, we've had a lot of rain. We got record breaking rain this past weekend. Did you guys get a crap ten at your house?

Hey, Rod, Mandy.

I sat and rain delay at the Colorado National Speedway for five hours on Saturday, and yeah, I got.

Home close to midnight. Oh no.

We had a good half hour of a really good feature race and then we waited five hours.

It was like three three, four, five hours. It was crazy. I got two things.

For people after all the rain we've had over the past few days. If you've noticed that you have a roof leak, I just want to send you a golden spike roofing. We noticed we had a roof leak. I called golden spike roofing. We had a leak around one of our our skylights and they came over, bought it being bought a boom, got it fixed. And if you've realized that your gutters are hopelessly clogged, don't just clean them.

Yours worked like a champ anthony, but holy green grass.

Yeah, yeah it does. See we got a lot, Mandy.

Can I give my free boob job to my wife asking for Mike? Well, Mike, I'm going to assume that I can call you Mike. We're going to get into that a little bit later. I did not know that we just passed a bill that is we should this bill should have been named the Patriarchy Wins, okay, because with everything that women are having to put up with right now in our sports from men who have decided

I say I'm fifty five.

I'm like winning, but at some point I would like to remain an attractive female and I can't get my plastic surgery paid for by the State of Colorado. We're gonna get in that a lot, a lot later in the show, because it's infuriating, absolutely infuriating, Maddy. My mom always said, if you're cheating, you're not trying hard enough.

She was joking.

Of course, I don't like cheating because I like to.

Win fair and square, right Like.

I like to know that when I have achieved a victory, I have done so fair and square. Otherwise it's a hollow victory. And what's the point. So when someone else cheats to try and undermine my fair and square victory or a fair and square butt whoopan butt whoopan Because if I lose, and I lose to someone that is better at whatever I'm doing than I am, I'm like, hats off, my friend, you kicked my boutet. I am

Have to go all the way back to the cookie.

You can just stay.

Where you are, not in our house. I was like, sorry, sister, stop crying. Go all the way back to the beginning. Toughen some up, make them realize.

You know what I mean. You gotta fight for what you want, but you got to do it the right way. Yeah.

I'm not saying I don't hate bankers because of my father and Monopoly, but you know.

Yeah, yeah bankers. I hate Monopoly. Despise the game it takes for ever. Hate it now.

I bet you haven't, even while you wouldn't because you hate Monopoly, But they have the in person life size Monopoly, know it?

What would you stand there for seven hours something to happen?

I say, with all due respect to their creativity and the work that they did on the set.

God, it was terrible. Oh no, really, it was.

So terrible because you made they made you feel so dumb. Why the challenges were brutal? H like two minutes to do these like calculus level challenges and bam you're out.

We still came in second place because we landed on no one's property. But hey, whatever, terrible, really fun but terrible. Uh to the person.

Who asked, Mandy, are men now eligible for free breast reduction surgery? I could stand to lose a few pounds. I don't believe that move removal is covered. Just move and or just move enhancement. Now, if you wanted to make them bigger, get yourself a nice set of double d's that will be paid for as long as you say you're a woman. Now, my question is if I say I'm a man, and then I say, but I'm a man who'd like to become a woman, and I'm gonna need something done to this chess area. Can I

What does it do? Well, listen to this.

Okay, let's talk about Colorado House Built thirteen oh nine, which was signed into law by the worst governor in history, Jared Polis, on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend. What thirteen oh nine does is it forces all of us, the Colorado taxpayers, to pay for any trans affirming elective

Not only that, here's the g and Aaron points this out in an ex post very very nicely. A woman who needs skin tightening after having kids will have to pay for it out of pocket.

A man does not.

A woman who needs hormone with therapy after going through pregnancy and menopause will pay out of pocket.

A man will not.

A woman who would like hair removal surgery will pay out hair removal. Laser hair removal will pay out of pocket, a man will not. A woman who's recovering from breast cancer will not be guaranteed insurance coverage for breast reconstruction. A man who wants a boop job will be guaranteed coverage.

To say it.

What's super frustrating for me is that after having to deal with all manner of crap my entire life, when it comes to I'm gonna say sexual discrimination in radio in the field that I'm in, or sexual discrimination at my first managerial job at a restaurant where I found out that the male manager who was doing the exact same job that I was, was making more than I was.

Right?

A lot of other radio program directors do, trust me. And the frustrating thing is that now I a woman who has dealt with years, decades of all this crap, and don't even get me started on how many periods I've had in my life and dealing with menstrual.

Type stuff, all of this stuff. Now I am.

Supposed to sit down and shut up because a man who has decided he is a woman wants to play sports against my daughter. You know what, being a woman is chock full of disappointment. Now, if you really want to be a woman, be disappointed, be told you can't do something, be discriminated against.

Because of who you are. But no, that's not what happens.

When a man decides he's a woman, will bye gush, bye golly. We better make sure that man has everything they need to feel like the woman they want to be. This is so infuriating. I'm thinking about this. I wonder if I could find a passive, aggressive, saucy lawyer who would take the case so I can sue the state of Colorado to cover my plastic surgery procedures so I can feel more feminine. Any takers out there, anybody know, anybody know any particularly surly lawyers who would do this

Of that stuff. It's absolutely.

I'm telling you, this is like the men wan. The men absolutely won. Mandy, How can we fight this crazy, crazy thing Poulus is done on free med for anyone I want a boob job.

Well, let's see. I think my strategy of.

Declaring myself a man before declaring myself a man who wants to become a woman might be the way to go because in Colorado I can change my gender three times. So if I go down to the DMV and I say I'd like to change my gender on my driver's license to mail, and then I call my insurance company and say, oh no, no, I'm mail now, and they're like, okay, we'll check all those boxes. Now you're mail, blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure.

I could argue in court that that is justifiable in the state of Colorado. Mandy, who sound like a whitey woman from a man totally joking. No, And you guys, here's the thing. There are so there are so many instances in my life where I objectively and I try to remain objective about this because sometimes when you don't get a job or something doesn't go well, it's not because of your gender, right, it's because you weren't right for the job, or or the person didn't like you,

I don't love it.

I know people, especially in this building, that are in music radio, that it is everything to them.

It was not to me. I've always been in talk radio.

And the frustration that I have, after almost thirty years in this industry that there are still so few women in talk radio just it honestly makes me viscerally angry at this stage in my life, and I'm just not sure what to do about it. I'm really not the Only thing I can keep doing is try to kick butt so you guys will enjoy the show and keep listening. And again, I need an attorney who will work pro bono to sue the State of Colorado to get me

I mean, could you imagine an interview.

Where I stand up on CBS four and I turned sideways and say, look, wouldn't they be better if.

They were up here? You know, just kind of give them the old lift.

It would be a hoot, an absolute hoot. Speaking of hoots, we're gonna have a hoot and holler. Our chief meteorologist Dave Fraser from Fox thirty one joins us next for Weather Wednesday. Keep it on KOA, our favorite meteorologist. He is Fox thirty one's Dave Fraser. Dave, what are we at a rainforest?

All of a sudden? What is happening with all the rain right now?

But of course, as I am a Colorado resident, we need the moisture.

I have to add that last part. Yeah, we always need the moisture.

You know, I'm surprised I kept the favorite part because the rain is welcomed, it is needed. I didn't like the timing. I'm sure most people didn't. Made for a soggy holiday weekend, but boy was it beneficial. May is our wettest month on average a little over two inches. We are now a little over three inches. We're not on the top twenty wet maize. We would need another

That's what I was going to ask you.

We pay a lot of attention to snowpack at what percentage of average? So this did kind of right the ship, I guess on our water situation.

Is that what you just said?

Yeah, I mean you know the problem is you know they're statistics, right, so you can't hold it for when we dry out again and sprinkle it around to even it out. But statistically, right now we are ahead of the game. May has been very beneficial to it. It's interesting because you and I always talk about and I pull up the long range outlooks for these conversations to

So basically what.

I just heard is Mandy, mow your lawn on Sunday? Is what I just heard? Is that what you just said?

Okay, just double checking, okil if you like me do it, I'd like to do it in the morning before the rain comes to me afternoon. So for me, my chort list is Friday morning before I go to work, so that it don't have to deal with it on the weekend. But a lot of people don't have that morning time, free time to do it. And so yeah, the best day would be Sunday because of.

The shade in my yard, it has to have a good bit of time to dry out from the afternoon storms the day before.

Why are we in this weather pattern?

Because this is not And of course my kids and rand kids came this past weekend and I was like, I honestly don't remember the last time we had this many days of gray skies and overcast and rain.

It's been a very long time.

So where what is happening right now that's creating this weather pattern?

What just kind of stuck between two areas to the west of us along the West coast. There's an area of high pressure. It's dried there. Flow around that is clockwise to the east of US near the Great Lakes, there's an area of low pressure flow around that is added, you know, anticlockwise. So the flow coming over Colorado is

If somebody is a question sort of related to what you were just talking about, and it is Mandy, please ask Dave if the fog is more dense in the spring or in the cold months. I think I know the answer, but ask anyway, Thank you.

You know it can be both. Really, I don't think one season wins out over another. I think in the this time of the year, you're dealing with more moisture and it can be thick and grayer and dense. But in the winter months sometimes you know, you can get that fog because of a snow that melts into the lower levels, and it can be thick as well. But I think this time of year you're dealing with more of a gray, thicker fog. But anytime you have fog, if the air is calm, whether it's left over rain

So this texter just asked, where are the official rain measurements taken?

Is that at the weather station by the airport.

It is okay, it is so there are many weather gauges and volunteer gauges up and down the front range that we can look at and pull data from our radar. The radar that we use also has a product that we call rain Vision. It can keep an estimation of rain. It's good for showing where the path of storms were and whether or not there was an inch or two inches, get approximations of rain. But the official gauge is out at the airport. And you mentioned a little bit ago

Another question for Dave.

I'm looking for clear sky, still air for astronomy. This weekend, and he says southern Colorado, Preblo, Trinidad. Is any of that going to be Is it going to be good star watching this weekend anywhere in Colorado?

I would say potentially Saturday night. If the Chanceller storm, the Chanceller storms on Saturday is very low, the sky should clear here along the front range. If not, Sunday should be pretty good Sunday night.

Last question before I let Dave Fraser Fox thirty one go, Manny, please ask Dave if the thunderbirds will be able to fly tomorrow for graduation Deer Force Academy.

Uh, that's a good question. We do have a chance. Here's the setup for someone. Do you know what time that is?

Manny?

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know if a rod can look that up quickly. Here's the thing I'll tell you, just quickly put tomorrow. If this helps your your listener, the chance for thunderstorms is already moving in this evening. Okay, the chances are going to linger overnight?

Am is yeah?

Nine am is the ceremony.

There is a possibility there could still be some showers around themorrow morning. That's what I was going to say. We have one of these situations where you know, we rarely get rain overnight, there's going to be some lingering

All right, that's a lot. That's a wrap there.

Dave Fraser from Vox thirty one, you can always and you know what ay Ride and I talked about right before you came on the air, just like a little free plug. We were talking about how we always use the Pinpoint Weather app because it is the most accurate

I moved everyone off my homepage except for this one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The only one on my homepage is the pinpoint weather app.

So there you go.

Dave Fraser a little free plug, because you guys do a great job with that, all right, man, have a great one, all right, that is Dave Frasier. I oh, dang it. Oh, I guess I could get that down. I have a couple of like patchy spots.

In my yard. Gotta get a little grass seed down. You know mine's working so good. Well, I just have a couple areas anyway. Yeah, all right, you guys.

We've got a lot of stuff on the blog today, a whole bunch of stuff on the blog today. And when we get back, I would have spend just a minute on something that I mentioned yesterday in passing, and that is we're gonna call it the slap scene around the world, and it is Brigitte Macrol, the President of France's wife smacked him in the face.

And I'm not.

Gonna talk about them necessarily, but I'm gonna use it to have a bigger conversation about women who beat up men. Something I mentioned yesterday and this was caught on film. So the President of France lands in Air Force in whatever they call his plane, I don't know, and they swing the door open. The President of France, Macron, steps into view and if from out of frame you see two hands come up and kind of like push his

Or something like that.

And the friend that was sharing this with me said something to the effect of I guess his wife finally hurt him badly, and I was like, what are you talking about. It turns out that among the guys in that group, it was pretty well known that this guy's wife was abusive to him seriously abusive to him. And again, I've lost touch with that entire group of people, so I don't know what happened.

If he's still with her, I have no idea.

But we talk a lot about men behaving badly, and with Diddy being on trial and his ex Cassandra taking the stand and talking about living with years of abuse, I think this is a good opportunity to talk about the fact that though it happens less frequently than it does in the other direction, women can be just as abusive as men. And what this woman did by by

And in my in my thinking, if.

Someone is physically doing something you, you always have.

The right to fight back, right.

You always should be able to protect yourself, and if that means physically, then you should be able to protect yourself physically, And I have no problem with that.

But this did not appear to be that. And if she's doing.

This on a plane full of people, what is she doing at home? That's that's the other thing about this, Like, if this is okay in public?

For her?

What is okay in private? I don't know. It's just a really really bad look.

And and you know, now it's out there and now they're running around.

Oh it was a playful swat. It was not.

You can watch it yourself on the on the video, you can just watch it and decide. And and Matt Crohn's face certainly doesn't look like, oh, that was so playful. It looks shocked. I mean, he genuinely looks shocked. And then he realizes the door is opening. Hey, how you doing, guys? Oh great, everybody saw that. Fantastic, excellent, everybody saw one.

But what just went on?

And he's now coming out to say, no, we were just kidding. I mean, it very much like an abused spouse. But I'm just gonna say this, guys, if you're living with someone who mentally or emotionally abuses you, you have every right to leave. And I know you're saying, but Mandy, we have kids. Your kids should not live with that example, because whatever you allow, you're teaching them, it's okay for somebody else to do to them.

Right. This is one thing that I have.

In my lifetime when my female friends and even a couple of male friends have come to me to confide in me about marital issues because they need someone to talk to.

I am always the person.

That says, look, if you have kids, work so hard to work it out, like, try everything in your power to work it out, unless there is addiction, or abuse or adultery. Right, those are the three a's that should be deal breakers. And when you allow someone to treat you that way, you are telling your children that is that it's okay to be treated in this fashion. And I want you to think about those kids in those terms. Would you want someone to treat them like you're being treated?

Big time.

All right, you guys, when we get back, I've got a couple things. First of all, at two thirty, if you heard the interview yesterday with my friend Derek Wilburn about a woman that he is now suing for defamation because she has been relentlessly attacking him both publicly and on social media, calling him a child molester, calling him a lot of different names. And I asked yesterday, hey, can somebody help get this, get me this woman's information.

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Ninetem god say nice through three and Donald Keithing, you're really sad, babe.

Welcome local, Welcome to the second hour of the show.

And I am pleased this punch to have in the studio with me a business owner that we're going.

To talk to in just a second.

But I want to take just one moment and give you guys an idea of what I saw last night in downtown Denver. So my daughter wanted to go see Alex Warren at Mission Ballroom, and I did not want to go see Alex Warren in Mission Ballroom. So we dropped her off at Mission Ballroom, Chuck and I did, and then we drove to a restaurant not too far but a good bit away, multiple blocks too far to

You need to come downtown, and he's right. Can I say that.

I know we did have a conversation when we did park about whether or not our car would be safe there, so that perception still exists. But we briefly dipped onto part of the sixteenth Street mall and it looks absolutely lovely and joining me now in the studio is a business owner who owns two stores on the sixteenth Street. I got to stop saying the who owns two stores on sixteenth Street, because I mean, we've paid one hundred k for the brand rebrand. I gotta get it right.

Yeah, but welcome to the show.

Well, thank you very much. And first of all, that text was actually directed at the audio that you had immediately before that, which is a personality on news Ah gotcha.

Oh yes, not necessarily you although you were repeating the lot. Well it was funny. I mean it was kind of funny. Let's talk about your experiences. How long have you owned a business, these two shops on sixteenth Street.

Yeah, so I bought sports Fan in twenty fourteen, So okay, So it's just.

A lot of ten years here.

You have a good you have been for the whole arc, right, It's.

Been a bit of a roller coaster, so ups and downs all together. So yeah, seeing the entirety of it.

So I'm guessing in twenty fourteen when you bought this you bought a business that had positive cash flow and was doing well, because very very rarely to someone buy an unsuccessful business unless they plan on bringing it back to glory. When did you start to notice problems of any real significance. I'm not talking about little you know, little ticky taggy sub. At what point did you go, hmmm, we may have a situation here.

Yeah, in twenty fourteen, when I bought the business, I would say it was kind of normal in terms of the level of choplifting, and I mean, it's just something that you have in retail, right. So we've got four stores, two of them on sixteenth Street, and it's just sports fan and everything was was great and normal. Twenty nineteen, probably about halfway through the year, is when I started to see a turn and some change in the dynamics.

Certainly on the heels of that.

About nine months later we ran into COVID and then George Floyd where things got really out of control, and then you know, a couple of years into construction and all those things.

So it was really kind of the middle of twenty nineteen. I think there were some decisions that were made.

Politically about how they were going to enforce shoplifting. And there's so few people who commit crime that if you're not enforcing it, those people are just going to be out there and they're going to do it again and again again.

So but that was the timing.

So since twenty nineteen, what do you think, And of course we're talking about a whole stew of things that have gone wrong, increase shoplifting, no enforcement, which just encourages more shoplifting. When did things really start to go Did you ever get ap We're like, I'm not sure that we're going to be able to continue.

Yeah, I think it was probably on the on the heels of George Floyd, And into twenty twenty one, we had between our stores on sixteenth and our store right next to the Broncos Stadium, we had eight break ins looting from George Floyd and and and you know, we lost six figures in terms of merchandise, and so.

You know those were you insured, because that's the big thing they got insurance.

Was all that covered by insurance.

So that is a typical refrain the first couple of times, yes, after that, because they were right in sequence with each other, just a week apart or so. The next incident, the insurance agent said, you're free to to submit claims, but I kind of drop get nervous about whether or not you're going to have insurance when you need it. So yeah, they're going to drop us potentially, And so after that I stopped submitting them.

How much did you come out of pocket for all this?

Do you know?

It was six figures? Yeah?

What is it about those stores? What is it about sixteenth Street that makes you want to stay there? Because we've seen a pretty good exodus by other businesses who say, look, it's just not sustainable, whether they're a large chain restaurant or whether they're a small mom and pop.

We've seen efforts by the.

City to bring these pop ups in, only to find out at the time they're like, we can't ensure the safety of our employees, let alone our customers. So you've seen these things come and go. What is it about being on Sixteenth Street that you've committed to.

Yeah, I think it's a little bit of what you were talking about in terms of what you saw. It's a beautiful area when it's not under construction. When there's not yeah, George Floyd, you know, protests, and it's also a place that draws a lot of tourists. And so for our business on the Sox side, tourists are big, and then sports.

I mean, you've got four stadiums.

That's very very rare for a big city to have four stadiums that are all kind of walkable from each other, right, And so you know, we get so much traffic from tourists and convention goers and sports goers that it ends up being super attractive for our particular business. And then for restaurants and all those other businesses down there, they enjoy the same.

So last night one of the things I did notice, because then once I started looking around, I was like, Okay, let's do a little recon of what's downtown. I would say probably well over fifty percent of the license tags of cars on the road we're from out of state easily. Now, that's not necessarily a bad thing because those many times

I think you said it it's just experience it or re experience it, because you know, perceptions reality. For all those folks they went down there, they had a bad situation, or I think more importantly, you know, where's the media point in the camera, and they're certainly not pointing it at normal behavior, right, people just coming in, buying something, being happy and then leaving.

It's the kind of stuff that we saw.

In twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and so those images last a long time with people's memories, and they need to come back see it for themselves, and once they do, I think it'll you know, completely refame for them what the downtown experience is like.

Have you felt an increase in police presence since the mayor announced the public safety initiative about two months ago?

Roughly?

Have you noticed an increase in police officers and conversely, have you noticed a decrease in a less desirable patron on the sixteenth on the sixteenth Street.

Yeah, so the answer to that is yes and no.

So the yes is there are more police versus what used to be in twenty twenty twenty twenty one on the heels of defund right. So but it's not two weeks ago, three weeks ago. It's actually going back a little bit further than that. So that transformation began to happen. And the reason why I say no is because it looks like what it looked like in twenty fourteen, twenty.

Fifteen, right, So it's back to normal almost.

There's an announcement of hey, this is all new investment and this is all you know, new officers and horses and people on motorcycles. But that's what I had in twenty fourteen, right parked outside of my store, and so that's what I thought was normal and usual, and people would just interact with the horses and it would be, you know, a great experience. But you know, talking about it as some kind of you know, major breakthrough and different.

You can text us questions at five sixty six nine oh on the Common Spirit health text line. I want to read this text message, Mandy. I walked them all daily on workdays. No, you walked sixteenth Street, sir or madam. We paid one hundred thousand dollars. We're going to get our money's worth out of that. Today I saw one motorcycle cop coming out of a back alley and a little later two cops on foot. It's so good to see cops on the mall again, which leads me to my second part of that question.

Do you cause the last time I walked down.

The Sixteenth Street mall, now great, it was under construction, there's fences everywhere.

It did not feel safe at all.

The only other people that I saw there were homeless people, one of whom appeared to be in the throes of some kind of drug situation.

I did not feel safe at.

All, and I kind of mentally was like, well, that's not going to happen again by myself, Like, I just did not feel comfortable. What have you seen in terms of the number of people that maybe are homeless or maybe you know having a drug issue or addiction issue. Are you seeing fewer of those people and more kind of normies. What's the balance there now?

Well, it's completely changed.

I would say during construction, I didn't really see anybody. You know, nobody likes to hang out near the noise and bother of construction, homeless or not. But you know, in the early twenty twenty twenty twenty one, that's where I saw the most that you could possibly see. So everything that you you know, is discuss about, you know, what happens in big cities. I pretty much saw everything

I have been either in a day yea.

And so if you're there any hour, you could probably see anything.

And so I did.

But right now and over the course of and I would go back to actually November of last year where I really started to feel like, well this is this

Maybe exhale just a little bit. Y what percentage? And this is un just ballpark me. Here of the storefronts are available right now, meaning they're empty.

You know, the numbers that I've seen are I think anywhere between twenty and thirty percent. It's going to vary a little bit depending on where you are along sixteenth Street. You know the blocks, one of the blocks that I'm on, it's it's a good chunk are actually full. And oh that's good for you. I mean, yes, it's great for me. We have two stores in that particular block. It's Curtis to Champa and along that you've got a bunch of local folks as well.

So that's the other question that I was going to ask as a follow up question, because I remember the first time we moved here in twenty thirteen, and my first trip to the sixteenth Street made was in the day and then like a week later back at night, and there was a vibe both times, right sometimes you end up with just bars and restaurants, or you don't, you know, you just end up with shopping and the stores close at seven. It had a great mix, and it had a lot of local stuff in it. Are

Yeah?

So, you know, a lot of folks kind of went out in as construction started to happen because if your lease was up, that became an opportunity and not have to live through all the construction.

And it's harder as a small business to sort of keep those costs under control when you can't defer it over multiple properties like a chain can exactly.

And so.

I am expecting that there should be a good mix coming back in. We will, undoubtedly we'll see big chains come in. But I was at a meeting a few weeks ago where the mayor was talking to business folks from all around the Front Range and in the mountains who were looking at Sixteenth Street, and you know, they were a mix of food and retail and theater and kind of really fun concepts and all local. And I would expect that, you know, not all of them would join, but a bunch of them will.

I think that's nice that they're they're doing outreach specifically too. And I was going to ask, are you part of the downtown Development organization or what kind of what kind of meetings do you guys have? Are they working with the businesses that are already there, and do you have a window into some of the things that the Downtown Development Partnership is planning to actually bring people back to Sixteenth Street are they Are they planning events?

I have relationships with folks there. I'm not a member. It's kind of expensive for small business.

But.

Might have great relationships. They have events actually coming this weekend. There's a bunch of stuff as they formally kind of grand reopened sixteenth Street, and then a bunch that are coming along the entirety of the summer.

And I don't know all the time, when is the rest of the fencing going to be down, because there's still there's still fencing up, there's still construction going on.

What is the timeline for that?

Do you know?

Yeah?

I think you know by the end of summer everything will be done, okay is my understanding. And you know there's been delays, but Hopefully they'll be all done wrapped up by the.

End of summer.

Somebody just asked, did they get rid of the urine smell on Sixteenth Street as of last night? Now, granted it has been raining a lot lately, but I did not see or smell anything that was remotely New York City subway like. It was actually rather pleasant and quite enjoyable, So I'm excited about this. Somebody else is the light reel still bringing in undesirable patrons? Wouldn't that be the place to start with more police presence? And I'll answer

But I'm just not sure. I know. I'm going to ask you this question, and you can answer it if you want to.

Derek, this person said, regardless of downtown is better or not, I can't bring myself to spend my money in a city that strongly supports sanctuary policies and liberal spending.

Do you want to respond to that. Yeah, I'd love to respond to that.

I would say there are likely points where I differ significantly from the administration in terms of the policies that I would choose. By the same token, there are a lot of great things that you would miss, you know, that have nothing to do with the policies. And there are a lot of folks like my businesses and Trompo Bakery and you know, Mod Market, Cossett Tequila's folks who are all local, who really and frankly need you to come down and re experience it and spend your money.

So I mean, I get it.

And so I've got stores in Park Meadows in Douglas County as well. But you know, the downtown Denver area is completely different. And and I would understand if people choose not to, but would encourage them to at least.

Give it a try.

I agree with you on that second part last question, and we're almost out of time, but I white asked this, what kind of a difference did it make when they finally took down the construction in terms of foot traffic, what are you seeing?

Yeahs right before that.

Yeah, you know, once once the fences come down on your block, then you know, traffic goes up thirty fifty seventy percent just because people are realizing, oh, I'm not going to be confronted by an inability to kind of navigate that block.

So really really simple.

When it's wide open, people love to be there, and it is clean and it is nice, and it's not perfect because it's a big city and so you don't search for perfection there, but you can search and find really really great experiences restaurants, retail, theater, everything downtown.

If you need anything sports memorabile, well i'd say sportswear, meaning your teams, you should go see Derek Sportsman and sock them sock and Porium because with nothing else you at least know Derek is a listener of this show as well. Derek, I so appreciate you coming down today.

Thank you so much.

Really, it was great to meet you and love interacting with your listeners.

All right, thanks y, we will be right back. I saw this on Twitter the other day and I thought it was kind of fun. So a person on Twitter who goes by Sarah Lazarus. I have no idea what Sarah's deal is, but.

I saw this question.

Did parents in the nineteen seventies really allow their kids to roam freely?

Or is that just a portrayal in teen movies?

We're seen in movies, And I was like, okay, seventies kids looks like this woman up And this is what I had as my example. I said, we left home at seven am on our bikes and had to be

Now when I look, and this isn't one of those what's the matter with kids today?

Things?

Because I get it.

Kids have the world in their hands right with the Internet, and the Internet is built to be addictive.

It's kind of funny to talk. And I don't mean funny, haha.

I mean funny that we're spending a lot of time that I think is long overdue talking about the things in our food that make us eat more, things that can make food a little more addictive, that things that they add to food that can kick in those dopamine releases, so you're gonna want to eat more of it. And yet no one talks about the fact that the entire

Do other people feel that way? Do other people have trouble with downtime?

A Rod?

Do you have trouble with downtime?

Because you are a super busy guy and we kind of talk about this a little bit on the air. But Arod not only does the show, he also handles all of the social media accounts for Kowa. He also has like two side businesses with his wife.

You Guys, Go Go.

He also is the track announcer It's Colorado Speedway. He has all of these irons in the fire. Do you have trouble just stopping.

And just chilling? What was that word you said? Down downtime? Downtime down high? Yeah, I never heard that time where you don't have stuff to do. Wait, that's a thing, Yeah, never heard of it.

Well, this is what I always think of when somebody I'm you might hear yourself in this next comment. And if it sounds like I'm being judgy, I'm being jealous. Okay, just remember that. But I have friends that are I'm like, hey, what'd you do this weekend? Oh my god, We've just been watched all of ted Lasso, the whole series, and I'm like, how do you have that kind of time? What are you not doing in your life? It allows you to sit and watch an entire series over the weekend.

But.

I tell her, like, all the little celebrations all to release dopamine in your brain, so you want to keep playing. The way shopping apps are set up are all about releasing dopamine, so you want to keep shopping, and no one talks about that, Like we're completely manipulated by the Internet, and no one says, hey, we should probably not do that now. A couple of you have texted the Common

Such a small thing. In the middle of summer in Florida, you know what you're getting out of your tap. It's hot.

It's like eighty five ninety degrees depending on how hot it is outside. You don't get cold water in the summer unless you ad ice. There's no cold water coming out of your faucet. When I got out here, I was.

Like, this is kind of magical. Mandy.

No kids equals all the downtime you want. I disagree, Mandy.

I raw dog.

Every flight, I just sit and stare.

That's called thinking, sir or madam, and I try to engage on that on a regular basis, not just while I'm flying. It drives Chuck crazy when we're on a long flight if he's sitting next to me, because like you know, the screen in front of you. Now on most planes they have a score in the headrest, but in the seat in front of you. If we're on

So yeah, it tries some crazy. There's a god. Then it just makes it feel like it goes so slow. I'm like why then I'm following along in real time.

Mandy drends straight from the gutter while the gub up the street was probably washing his car. There's nothing wrong with dopamine. Texture to the text who said what's wrong with dopamine? Nothing is wrong with dopamine. But we are not designed as human beings to have a constant flow of dopamine, because then our dopamine receptors get overwhelmed and can no longer receive dopamine, and that means that you

I don't do downtime.

I have three jobs and at exercising two times a day, sitting on a plane, I watch shows.

I'm gonna try and read a couple books.

I got enough time to read a couple books going to Japan, so I'm hoping.

To get in a couple books there. Hi, Mandy.

I remember one spring day we were playing out front my older brother were kids, but my older brother drank from hose and spider eggs came out of the holes and into his mouth.

Totally gross.

Ah, he got well more than his annual average of spiders in his mouth. Hey, hey, Rod, would it be okay if I came to see at the racetrack? Can people come visit you at the racetrack?

Absolutely to make sure you say hello?

How do they say hello? Well, they say hello, but where do they do that? Well, usually you see me running around like a crazy person. Like if it's a three plus hour raindelay where I'm running through the crowd throwing out T shirts and cool stuff and have a mob following me, that's the time to say hello. But normally I'm just walking around. If I'm not up in the booth, I'm running around somewhere nice say hello, So.

Please do unless there's a rain delay, in which case he'll just be bitter in the booth. Oh No, if there's a rain delay, it's more off. More often you'll see me running around. Oh there you go. I got to entertain the people. Mandy.

I grew up in the sixties and seventies. It was like the movie Stand by Me without the body. Well, I would hope, so, Mandy, I'm sixty six. We had fields around our neighborhood when I was a kid. We climbed trees, slid down hills on cardboard boxes, played with the sheep dogs, taking care of the sheep that grazed the field.

I just told my daughter about something fun we used to do.

We found an old mattress, just like somebody had thrown it out on the side of the road in the country, and so we tied it to.

The back of a pickup truck.

And then the pickup truck went into a field and started doing donuts, and we were hanging on to the mattress trying not to get thrown off. The fact that we are all walking and talking and have full use of our limbs is something of a miracle. Don't try that at home, kids. It was a dumb idea, then it's a dumb idea now, Mandy. I live in Lafayette, my son, daughter and grandson live in Eerie. We just might visit the Colorado National Speedway into Konas on weekend, and if we see.

A rod, we'll all say Uncle Leo's style, Hey Rod, Hello, sick, come on down every Saturday.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Last one about what we did in the seventies. Mandy was born in nineteen eighty seven. I think we were the last of the old guard pop bottle rocket fights and Sandlott football and baseball games. Had a cell phone, you could play snake in my junior year of high school, Snake Boy.

That was challenging, and we thought it was so cool. Bottle rocket fight.

You said rocket fights, but I immediately went back to we used to have bottle rocket fights.

What are bottle rockets fights? You ask again, kids, this is a dumb idea. Don't do it.

We're lucky no one died. You just light a bottle rocket and point it at someone and let it shoot at them. And we were completely unattended. No grown up ever stepped in to say, probably don't want to do that. Nope, there were no grownups on the scene. They were all having cocktails somewhere, because that's what we did in the seventies.

Our parents had cocktails. We ran loose in the streets. That's what we did.

Anyway, I thought that was kind of funny when I saw it. Now, I do want to mention one sportsy thing for a moment to Marius Thomas is going to be inducted into the Broncos Ring of Fame, and I think that that is really cool, and it's really sad that he's not going.

To be here to see it. It's kind of a bummer one, isn't it, You know what I mean?

Because he's he was not old when he passed away, and he should still be a young, vibrant man. Or I'd be an older man, but he still should be a vibrant man. He of course, was found dead in twenty twenty one. They attributed the cause of death to seizures that he had had.

And tough thing. But he will at least his family will get to see it.

There is no, off the top of my head immediately, there is no former Bronco that isn't already in the Ring of Fame that would enjoy that more than DT would have had he been here.

Wholesome, super nice guy.

I randomly just came across, actually a picture I was looking through one of the videos I got for our training camp coverage years ago, and just having him come out and give me like the rock and roll say, well, like staring right at the camera, like super fun bombing, loved being a Bronco, loved playing football. Just would have eaten that recognition up so much. I mean, he wanted to be a Ring of Famer. He absolutely deserves it, one of the best to put on the Orange Blue dudess.

Else is in the ring, and I can't think of anybody else that went in posthumously first ballot two. Yeah, oh well, there's no doubt, no doubt. So when are they When are they inducting him? What are they doing that?

Do you know?

I just saw it hanging. I'm sure we're going to have coverage of that.

Do yourself a favor in honor of DT in this recognition being announced. Go go check out that play once again, the overtime winner. Just and listening to listen to Dave's call, listen to the TV call. It's all it's all so good, so cool, all right, pe Man, Yep, it'd be awesome to honor him. Like you said, I wish he could be here, like you would eat that up that entire week.

I mean it, this is why.

Believing that there's something beyond this for me. I think DT is gonna know.

I just think he.

I got to tell you, guys, you are cracking me up, lighting me up on the text line for pointing out that Roman candlefights were better, And I just want to throw this out to you, Okay, Roman candles are far less predictable in terms of which way those little pops are going to go when they come out, So you could be aiming a Roman candle at someone and that thing could curve up and it lands in your lap.

At will be inducted into the Ring of Fame week seven and against the Giants October nineteenth.

All right, that's gonna be a whole lot of fun, and it's gonna be really nice. It's just a shame that he will not be here to enjoy.

It.

Will be, by the way, part of the team's alumni weekend where they will celebrate the tenth anniversary of Super Bowl fifty.

All right, ten years.

Time for another one, just saying when we get back, I got a couple of things I want to talk about. I want to talk about the fact that NPR is now suing to get my money and yours. And I'm going to explain one time because the vote will happen when I am in Korea and Japan, and I want to be clear to Douglas County residents why I am a no on this home rule initiative.

Will get into that next.

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Welcome, Uncle, Welcome to the third hour of the show. This show is flying, and I want to.

Talk about a couple of things that are important in this segment. And if you are a member of Douglas County, if you're a resident of Douglas County, you may know that Douglas County is pursuing the possibility of becoming a home rural county and there's a lot about being a home rule county. I now have a much better understanding

It will not, but it does give.

The county some power to push back against certain things in the state. So I'm not opposed to home rule, but I am voting no on this home rule initiative for the following reasons. Number one, this entire operation, the entire process was put into motion by a meeting that was announced twenty four hours in advance.

During the meeting, the three county.

Commissioners spent almost no time discussing the issue before voting yes to move this whole process forward.

So I'm already like, wait a minute. Other people were not even involved.

I've also spent a lot of time talking to people who are active in the republic parties, some of whom are very active in the Douglas County Republican Party, and I've been told by multiple of them, some of whom are supporting the home rule initiative, that the quote dream team of participants was chosen by the County Commission before they even voted to move to a home rule situation. Why did they do that because they made the time so short for people to sign up for the ballot

I don't even have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is.

That the county commissioners, according to people that I know hand pit, people that they believe would support them in whatever they're trying to do, and they had them ready to go. They actually signed each other's petitions to get on the ballot.

I'm talking to people right now.

In Douglas County that are just now finding out about this, and they keep saying things like, well, I'd love to be on a charter commission. Well, too late, you missed the three week window that you had to get on the ballot.

Coming up in the.

Middle of June, we're going to have a special election. It's going to be five hundred thousand dollars. That's how much does special election costs. Why couldn't we be having these conversations and then have a special election next year during a non off year election. Whenever a politician tries to put something on an off year ballot, meaning not

So that is another thing that has my antenna up.

Then there's the fact that after this election in June, if the people in Douglas County vote to move forward with the Charter Commission, the Charter Commission will be seated and they then have about seventy three days to come up with Douglas County's constitution. Now you got to think this is a volunteer committee. How many times are they going to meet, let's say once a week. That means ten meetings, and they're gonna have to come up with a charter. They're gonna have to decide what's in it.

All of this is compressed.

It's too fast, and I am a firm no on this go round. But should they make it a more thoughtful process. Should they allow more time for people to jump into the fray to possibly be on the charter commission, giving us more choices? I would totally support it. So I am yes on the concept, know on the execution as it is now. I don't think you can do what needs to be done well unless there's already some kind of charter framework out there that we don't know about.

Will see a headline.

The first numbers in the headline are today's date, and then it says the word blog and you just click on that and it's gonna open it right up.

There you go, There you go. LOL.

So you like home rule, but your butt hurt about these guys is called politics. No, it's called shady politics. And I had a boss once who I went in to ask him a question and it was a timely question. I need him to give me an answer right now. He looked at me and said, if you need an answer right now and you're rushing me to get there, it's a no. And in this case, it's also a no. To write the US Constitution. How many meetings did the Founding Fathers have? I'm here for you, and I looked

Hammered out what would become the constitution.

It took one hundred days to actually frame it, and then only four days to actually write it after they had worked out.

What was going to be in it.

And Douglas County wants to do this in ten meetings of what four hours each? And that is why I'm a no on this home rule proposition, but I'd be absolutely open to having a longer conversation about it. Now where I'm going to talk about this really quickly coming up at two thirty. The woman who is accusing Derek Wilburn we spoke to him yesterday of being a horrible person, so much so that he issuing her for slander, is joining me at two thirty with her side.

Of the story.

But first, can we talk about how National Public Radio and three of its stations in Colorado have now sued President Donald Trump, arguing that his executive order cutting funding to the two hundred and forty six station network violates their free speech and relies on an authority that he

You know what's funny. No one ever complains about not having a federally funded newspaper, do they not? One person is like, why don't we have a newspaper?

Why don't we Why don't Indeed we don't because when countries have newspapers, they turn into Pravda, they turn into propaganda. And when you have an organization that gets a big old chunk of change from the government, do you really think they're going to be the ones to criticize that government. No, so they end up being propaganda. And though PBS and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, nobody is curtailing their First Amendment speech. No one is saying you can't say this.

And is one who has.

Worked in corporate radio and in commercial media my entire career. Do you know what iHeartMedia could do with a four hundred and thirty five million dollar cash injection?

Do you know what Odyssey could.

Do one of our competitors with a four hundred and thirty five million dollar cash injection.

Every year.

I mean, this is why the salaries at public radio, in the big time public radio. I'm sure there are small market public radio stations where people don't make a lot of money, they are generally higher than in commercial radio just across the board.

So yeah, I'm a little bit salty about this because the fact that my.

Money taken out of my paycheck is being given to my competition has really been an issue for me for a very long time.

And I actually think that NPR is going to lose.

I think that a lot of these lawsuits that have been filed against Donald Trump were lawsuits that have been thrown together hastily. But I think the executive orders by Trump have not been thrown together hastily. They've been thrown together very very very carefully, really the opposite of throwing them together, and they're being put together in such a way to sort of negate these arguments before they even

So we shall see. I hope they lose.

NPR is already selling ads if you listen to NPR.

You hear them.

It used to be sponsored by the Brouckler family or whatever, but now it's like sponsored by Region Revolution. If you have knee paid, that's a freaking commercial as soon as you say anything other than speaking of and their charter says they can't do that. So yeah, I got a lot of beef. And NBR can do whatever they want. CPR can do whatever they want. There's a lot of nice people that work at those stations.

I know some of them. I have no ill will whatsoever, but they can do it without my money or yours. Seems simple enough.

When we get back, the woman who's accused Derek Wilburn of being a horrible person joins us with her side of the story. Derek Wilburn on the show. He is a member of the D twenty school board, but he has been dealing with what he says is a high level of harassment from a woman named Bernadette Guthrie, and Bernadette Guthrie is joining me now to get her side of the story out.

Bernadette, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me, Mandy. I appreciate it.

So I want to let you set the table on this one, and then I will ask questions about the things Derek said yesterday, and we can kind of let you, from your perspective, explain what has happened in this ongoing situation with Derek.

Sure, and you might notice that I have someone with me. So I also wanted to introduce Saffren Stevens. Saffren was one of the student moderators from the event in which all of this happened. So Saffron has a recent D twenty graduate. She just graduated a couple of weeks ago. She was nominated as one of these that's best and brightest,

All right, welcome Saffron.

So what we wanted to do was, like, we know that students can't vote, but I was in APGV the year before, and I've always been pretty involved in the school board, especially since I kind of more became aware of like my civic duties kind of almost and so me and a group of other students at my school. We decided during school board election season, even though we couldn't vote, we still wanted students to have a chance to sort of hear what was being talked about and have a chance to participate.

So the whole reason that we started this was sort of.

To be a four students by students event. So we held it out of middle school so it would be more easily accessible for students, and we opened it up for questions from the audience so that the students could actually ask questions. But yeah, so that's what it was like, a student forum ran by students, left by students.

Okay, so what went wrong? Bernadette?

So I think, you know, to begin with setting the stage of what the event was. I think it's just really important because there has been an attempt to rewrite history a little bit.

Right.

So, I've heard that it was a school board meeting. I've heard that it was just a political forum. It was never marketed that way, advertised that way. In fact, there are several emails that Saffron had from Derek's campaign basically verifying that it was only a student event, that only students were coming up with the questions, and that would be moderating it before they would even commit to attend. And so I wanted to make it very very clear

It was something along the lines of like will you it kind of onlines like will you ban books?

What is your opinion on banning books? Tell you it's how will you ensure like diverse literature is available to students? Essentially something like that, And he was the last one to answer. The other three candidates answered the question in terms of their you know, viewpoints on you know, library access and that sort of thing. And so when Derek took the mic, he said, I don't curse, and I

This book is.

It's pretty savage. I mean, it is a lot of really bad language. It is about child rape and incests, and it is definitely there's a lot in this book.

I I.

Have seen the excerpts and they're pretty horrible.

Yes, yeah, And it's all on video. I mean, to this day, District twenty has the entire thing unedited on the website, full captioning everything. Right, So D twenty you google D twenty Student Forum, it's all there. I think it's like forty three minutes in oh As I said, I'm sitting there with my eleven year old and she immediately I can just she grabs my arm and she is like, what what is happening? It was so quick, I mean there was I think the clip of this

Well, and I'm not trying to down your story. I just want to make sure that we don't run out of time.

Yes, so she had a very she had a very emotional reaction to what happened essentially, And so fast forward, you know, a month later, he's elected to the school board.

And did you ever reach out to him and say this was inappropriate, this was wrong? Did you reach out to him and have a conversation with him about it?

I attempted to, and it was basically like we support what we did, and there was no you know, like no acknowledgment of any wrongdoing. After the forum, then when he was elected, she saw him at another event at the EAC, which is like our administration center, and she immediately had to payic a secondy and my mom had to come get her. It was all of the board and the administration witnessed it. She had to be like

Yesterday yesterday on the show, that he just said, that's perfectly fine.

I will never go to her school. Has he gone to her school?

No?

I I have never gotten a call.

No.

And I want to say, he hasn't really gotten to any schools. Right, he had a health issue after after being elected, and so he really has not even been able to serve in his capacity. So I don't know that he's done any school visits or very many.

I don't.

I've never gotten a call that that he's gone there. But also you have to realize I only spoke about this like he's like it's been two years, Like that's false. This happened in January is when I started speaking out about it, and then.

By Devil's Advocate.

Let me just play Devil's advocate a little bit, because I can understand why this would be upsetting.

I have a daughter. I get it, you want to protect your child.

But you've been very vocal saying that he is uh, sexually assaulted your daughter.

Is that accurate? Okay? Has have you said that.

He is like a basically that he gets sexual gratification in any way from doing this stuff in front of children?

So he has referred to that book as pornography multiple times, whether it be on you know, other podcasts, an article he wrote for the Gazette before, he referred to this book as pornography multiple times. And I have said the definition of pornography is pornography is for arousal. Right, So if you're saying in one breath that this book is pornography and then you're reading it to children to make a point concerns about that book in the library, there's something wrong with that.

Okay.

But you're as signing a motive here, and this is where it gets dodgy for me. You're a sign because I've known Derek for years and I've known him to be an upstanding, good person who really really cares about his community and really really cares and wants to do good, which is why in my and I'm not gonna I'm not going to try and describe motives or make an excuse for him.

That's not my role here.

But I can understand why someone is trying to make a point that, you know, a book does not belong in a library when you have specific questions about book banning or things of that nature. I just had this discussion with my sixteen year old daughter, like, let's talk about what the words book banning mean. So I can understand, and I think it was a bad choice by him.

And that's you know that you're entitled the opinion. My opinion is mine. I don't think that thing man to look out into an audience of young children, like there was some there was elementary kids there. And so how do you prove a point that a book is so this Like, don't get me wrong, this book is in one high school. Okay, So this book is in one

But you think he gets sexual gratification out of that.

So and it's funny because there was a discussion on like a Republican chat group where a former Senate candidate Eli Bremer was talking about a situation at a local city council meeting where there were some people that had come to that meeting and had read excerpts out of this book. So I had quoted, I had read Eli Bremer's quote about he said something about like it's like, you know, sexual deviant behavior for a grown man to read this sort of thing in public. I never said

That's okay.

I'm trying to get We're almost out of time, and I want to get this one question. Do you think he is that that people should be afraid of Derek Wilburn, that he's going to sexually assault or otherwise do something inappropriate to child.

It is my opinion that his judgment around children is extremely concerning. I believe that if you look out into an audience of children and read pornography to them without any I mean, he said on your show yesterday that he knew he had the mic and there wasn't anything they could do about it, and.

It was and I mean, the only other people who had a MIC was a sixteen year old and a seventeen year old.

And I don't know what he could us to do.

I mean, I agree with you that that was an inappropriate thing to do. But what I'm having a hard time with is the is the sort of never ending drumbeat of assault of accusing him of doing really horrible things. Did he have a horrible moment of judgment. I agree with you, that was bad judgment on his part. And he said yesterday, if I had to do it again, I would have done it a lot differently. He said it on the show yesterday.

Which that's the first time he has ever said anything like that. He has never even remotely come close to anything of an apology. He's never agreed to not go to my child's school or else. The administration would have not put a safety plan in place for her, so this could have all been avoided if from the very beginning he said that was a bad call. I'm sorry. I would never do anything to harm a child, and

So you are you are not?

I just want to I have a lot of people on the text line saying, so do you want the books.

In the library or not? Can I actually step in on this one? So no, I no offense that fround them all out of time, and I just want to get I'll.

Answer that that was another thing that he, you know, miss commit about advocated for these types of books in middle school libraries ever.

But it's this from a high school library.

Yeah, and my my opinion, I would never fight for this book to be in a high school library. Okay, ever, and I never have so to pay me. I'm not I'm not the left, I'm not a leftist, I'm not any of these things. I'm not you know, a whacko like you you know, you described me like I'm just a mom and I'm and I'm not an activist either. I'm a dedicated district volunteer. I serve on our district accountability committee. I serve on both accountability committees for my

Well, Bernadad, I appreciate you coming on. I'm completely out of time, so it will get it'll get sorted out. I appreciate you making time for us today, and uh, we'll just we'll let the courts decide.

I appreciate you.

Yep, we sure will.

Thanks much for you, all right, And now I've got Ben Albright and Ryan Edwards in the studio and now it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio.

Of its kind, not bad of the day. And what is our dad joke of the day, please, Anthony, What do you call a French guy being mauled by a lion? French guy being mauled by a lion? Yes, hmmm, I do not know. Claude, simple clean, not that I believe.

Is that a President Macrone joke? Oh no, he was being clawed by his wife.

My bad. Anyway, moving on, what is our word of the day.

It is an adjective voluble, voluble correct, voluble.

Having some volume like you can measure the volume.

It's voluble, you would think. But no, okay, wrong, anyone, anyone, nothing.

No one may be described as voluble if they are talking a lot in a rapid energetic way.

This is a voluble program here on, Probably it accused to make voluble yourself. There, Ben Albright say, trivia question. If you guys don't get this, I am going to be so disappointed in both of you.

I'm just letting you know.

The Four Corners Monument is the only place in the United States where four states meete.

What are the four States, Colorado, domestic. Uh yeah those four yes, those are correct? All right.

A bronze disc embedded in granted marks the special spot. Okay, Ben Albright and Ryan Edwards text line is telling Mandy not to cheat. I look at my text line. It's already closed. Okay, line is already closed. I don't need to cheat.

Category.

I like this category also on the football team. Okay, you'll catch on idiomatically. It follows at wits, Mandy.

What is end? That is correct? Deodorant with an extreme fresh version is yeah, Ben, We're not going to give you as from this point forward.

Another name for the economy section of the airplane that is correct ran okay.

The part of a.

Stereo system that gets the electrical signals and converts them so you can what's a receiver?

Correct? Wow?

Finally, British term for a gambler, Ben? What is a punter head? Is correct?

Nice?

Nice, very nice? I did win, Ben, But a good showing the first one. Yeah, even the first one we will no longer get.

But all right, points if he does not use it in the form of a question. Just now the stickler has come out anyway, rights, so did baby steps.

I realized this this bend.

We gotta, you know, bring him along slowly, don't want to throw too much at him here, Sure, put me up. What's coming up in UK Way Sports? What you guys got supposed to?

J Anderson? He's a bowler? I'm sorry what he's bowling?

Like?

Just like that?

Like he makes bulls? I did not see that coming. Like is he is he professional? Like really good?

Yeah?

Does he have like a movie to after a strike? You gotta ask you ask me the ex you know that guy.

Like Bill Murray and Kingpin. No, there's a there's a real bowler.

He does that.

I can't remember. Was it p Webber? We might have been. I know that's my bowling knowledge.

That's my bowling.

Knowledge right there. And one fell swoop. We'll be back tomorrow. In the meantime, KA Sports coming up next