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The MAKE IT Podcast

Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggsredcircle.com

The MAKE IT podcast salutes the Indie Film Creative. Join us weekly for candid conversations with seasoned pros, offering advice, knowledge, and industry insights to fast-track the journey for aspiring film professionals. Discover inspiration and guidance tailored for your cinematic path. Enjoy the journey? Dive deeper at www.themakeitpodcast.com and follow us on Instagram and X @_makeitpodcast.

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Episodes

395 - Actress Katherine Ro - An Insider Look at The Terminal List Prequel, How to Succeed in Hollywood While Prioritizing Family, Stunt Performing, Mastering Voice Acting, How to Impress Gatekeepers | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with actress Katherine Ro about her journey in the entertainment industry, balancing career and family life, and the challenges of voice acting versus traditional acting. They also discuss the importance of independent film festivals, the skills required for stunt work, and insights from industry professionals. The conversation covers a range of topics related to the creative and practical aspects of pursuing a career in the entertainment indust...

Oct 29, 20242 hr

394 - Aaron Irons & Josh Croft on Making 'Jeffrey’s Hell,' the Unique World of the Defy Film Festival, Appalachian Horror, Mastering Found Footage, How Tubi is Empowering Independent Filmmakers, The Art of Low-Budget Filmmaking, The Keys to Sustainable Indie Film Success | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmakers Aaron Irons and Josh Croft about their experiences at the Defy Film Festival, their independent horror films "Chest" and "Jeffrey's Hell," and their overall approach to low-budget, authentic filmmaking. The conversation covers the importance of community, resourcefulness, and staying true to one's creative vision in the independent film industry. The hosts and guests also discuss the horror genre, the challenges of marketing film...

Oct 18, 20242 hr 2 min

393 - David “D. Bird” Birdsall - The Last Mixtape, White Collar Rhymes Discord, Renting an Airbnb w/ Strangers, Truth in Diss Tracks, Evolving Landscape of Music Creation and Collaboration, Northwest Hip Hop, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Ludacris, Drake, and Kendrick Biopic Potential, The Rise of DJing, AI-Generated Music | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk to David "D. Bird" Birdsall, the co-founder of the White Collar Rhymes Discord community. They discuss D. Bird's experience organizing a music project that brought together internet friends from around the world to create The Last Mixtape album and documentary in a mansion in Austin, Texas. The conversation covers the challenges of filming the project, the distinct qualities of Northwest hip hop, the influence of artists like Atmosphere and Aeso...

Oct 08, 20241 hr 25 min

392 - Tiffany Murray - How to Use Creative Constraints, '2 Lives in Pittsburgh', The Best Camera for Indie Filmmaking, Collaborating Without Cockiness, Chasing Virality, Systemic Shifts in Conflict Resolution, and Fostering Inclusive Environments | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Director and Cinematographer Tiffany Murray about her experiences working in the film industry directing, shooting, and trying her hand at producing. They discuss her recent film, 2 Lives in Pittsburgh , and the challenges of independent filmmaking. The conversation also explores issues of inclusivity in the workplace and how to foster respectful collaboration. We also talk about: Tiffany's background and past projects, like the Southbridge...

Sep 27, 20241 hr 34 min

391 - 100K Subscribers, The Legacy of James Earl Jones, Disney's Live-Action Remakes, The Influence of Bots and Social Media and Shaping Cultural Narratives in the Entertainment Industry | Indie Talk

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about the upcoming Nashville Film Festival, the recent Sundance Film Festival host city announcement, and the Make It Podcast reaching a major milestone of 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. They also discuss the legacy of the late James Earl Jones, analyze box office trends, and dive into audience reception of Disney live-action remakes. We also talk about: The potential impact of Sundance moving to different host cities and how it could have affe...

Sep 17, 20241 hr 52 min

390 - Director Michael Day - How to Go From Accountant to Director, Insights into Hollywood Accounting, Directing Your First Feature Film, Hitchcock, Tarantino, and the Art of Influence, Navigating the Delicate Balance of Marketing Independent Films, Strategies for Indie Filmmakers to Break Through, Unlocking the Keys to Success in a Competitive Film Industry

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about Director Mike Day's transition from accounting to producing and directing, his work on major Hollywood films, and the challenges of managing film budgets. They discuss Mike's directing style and influences, as well as the marketing strategy for his latest film "Clawfoot." The conversation also includes insights from polls on classic Hitchcock movies and the greatest action directors, as well as a story about a famous director's costly mist...

Sep 10, 20241 hr 42 min

389 - Acclaimed Producer Gale Anne Hurd - Producing The Terminator, Aliens, and The Walking Dead, Building Successful Director-Producer Partnerships, Marketing Blockbusters, Strategies for Avoiding Costly Mistakes, and Advice on Maintaining a Healthy Work-Life Balance in the Film Industry

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris has a conversation with acclaimed film and television producer Gale Anne Hurd . Hurd discusses her storied career, including her start working for legendary producer Roger Corman, her breakout success producing The Terminator, and her influential work on iconic projects like Aliens and The Walking Dead. Throughout the conversation, Hurd shares valuable insights and advice for aspiring filmmakers and producers. We Also Talk About: Gale Anne Hurd introduces her...

Sep 03, 202452 min

388 - Exploring Hollywood's Franchise Fixation, Unpacking Warner Brother’s $8.5B Nevada Deal, and Navigating AI's Impact on the Animation Industry | Indie Talk

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick discuss the challenges facing the animation industry as it grapples with the potential impact of AI and Warner Brothers' $8.5 billion investment in Nevada, which is contingent on a film tax credit incentive bill. We also talk about: - The phenomenon of sequel fatigue and Hollywood's reliance on franchises - The importance of marketing in the success of independent films - The need for a new approach to judging the profitability of independent films -...

Aug 27, 20241 hr 31 min

387 - Indie Rights CEO Linda Nelson - How to Navigate the Streaming Landscape and Lessons in Entrepreneurship from a Pioneering Filmmaker

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris has a conversation with Linda Nelson, the CEO and co-founder of Indie Rights, a leading independent film distribution company. They discuss Linda's journey from a small town in upstate New York to becoming a pioneer in the indie film distribution space, including her experiences with the NSYNC concert film, the challenges of making independent films, and the strategies she and her partner Michael Madison have used to build a successful distribution business. ...

Aug 16, 20241 hr 50 min

386 - Filmmakers John Kirby and Libby Handros: Exploring the JFK, RFK, Malcolm X and MLK Jr. Assassinations, Conspiracy Theories, the Genius of Dick Gregory, Famous Patsies, "Long Legs" Marketing, and their Documentary ‘Four Died Trying’

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with documentary filmmakers John Kirby and Libby Handros. They discuss their 25-year partnership and their upcoming documentary film cycle "Four Died Trying," which explores the major assassinations of the 1960s. The conversation covers topics such as state involvement in these assassinations, the lack of transparency around the investigations, and the importance of understanding history and promoting positive social change. Show Notes: John Kir...

Aug 06, 20241 hr 57 min

385 - Revisiting Indie Film Investment with Writer Jason McConnell - The Four Whys of Film Investing, Keys to Long-Term Success, the Transactional Nature of Hollywood, the Changing Landscape of Independent Film, Avoiding Predatory Contracts, and Protecting Your Film Investment

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris Barkley and writer Jason McConnell revisit MAKE IT episode #248, "Indie Film Investment From A to Z - EVERYTHING You Need To Know Before You Wire Funds." They discuss the popularity of the original episode, the chemistry between the hosts, and the unique perspective it provided on investing in indie films from a producer's point of view. The conversation covers topics such as filmmaking, investing, pimp culture, originality in creative work, and the importanc...

Jul 26, 20241 hr 27 min

384 - Indie Film Investment From A to Z - EVERYTHING You Need To Know Before You Wire Funds | Re-Air

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Producer Chris Barkley and Writer Jason McConnell discuss the ins and outs of investing in independent films. They cover topics such as the importance of good judgment, risk management, and negotiation strategies for investors. They also dive into the key factors to consider when evaluating film investment opportunities, including understanding the filmmakers' vision and motivations, building a "moat" around the business, and navigating the complexities of film dis...

Jul 25, 20241 hr 37 min

383 - Dr. Christian Gregory - Producer, Author, and Entrepreneur - Lessons in Health, Environment, and Activism, The Rise and Fall of Early Hollywood, How to Reclaim Your Attention, The Evolution of Storytelling, and Building Sustainable Brands for People and Planet

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with producer, author, entrepreneur, and activist Dr. Christian Gregory. They discuss Gregory's work building sustainable consumer brands through his company 3E and continuing the legacy of his father, comedian and activist Dick Gregory. Christian shares stories from his childhood and lessons learned from his father about health, the environment, and using one's platform to inspire change. We also talk about: - Christian's experience growing up ...

Jul 16, 20242 hr 12 min

382 - Joshua Lastine - Entertainment Lawyer - Navigating Creative Representation, Legal Strategy, Insuring Your Creative Earnings, Reclaiming Creativity from Algorithms, and Funding Independent Films - Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with entertainment lawyer Joshua Lastine. They discuss the current state of the film industry and how private equity investment has impacted storytelling. Joshua provides insight into his work representing indie filmmakers and navigating contracts in Hollywood. He emphasizes the importance of proper legal protections for independent creators. We also talk about: - The upcoming Silver Surfer movie and casting a female lead in the role - How strik...

Jul 05, 20241 hr 29 min

381 - Filmmakers Sav Rodgers and Alex Schmider - How to Make Award-Winning Documentaries, ‘Chasing Chasing Amy’s’ Production Journey, Identity vs. Representation, When to Fight for Authentic Stories, Finding Meaning Beyond Financial Success, How to Break the Hollywood System, and the Realities of a Sustainable Film Career

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with documentary filmmaker Sav Rogers and producer Alex Schmider about identity, trauma, and inclusion in filmmaking. They discuss Sav's documentary "Chasing Chasing Amy" and the challenges of representation in Hollywood. Sav and Alex also share their perspectives on building communities outside of traditional systems. We also talk about: Sav's journey making 'Chasing Chasing Amy' and the personal story it tells The importance of authentic repre...

Jun 25, 20242 hr 7 min

380 - Bonus Episode feat. Jon Fitzgerald: Festival Strategies: Choosing the Right Film Festivals for Your Goals, Crafting an Irresistible Film or TV Show Presentation, Signs Your Screenplay Needs Work and Tips for Working with Low Budgets and Limited Resources

Hello, Hello! In this special bonus episode, Chris and Nick host a webinar with filmmaker and educator John Fitzgerald. Jon Fitzgerald shared his expertise on advancing your filmmaking career through festivals, pitches, and working with gatekeepers. Chris and Nick provided additional insights from their experiences in the film industry. We also talk about: Strategies for networking and following up with contacts at film festivals Setting clear goals for your film and festival process Properly pr...

Jun 20, 20241 hr 6 min

379 - Jon Fitzgerald - Founder - Slamdance Film Festival - How to Network and Navigate the Festival Circuit, How to Become a Master Storyteller, Filmmaking for Social Impact, and Investing in a Career of Constant Creation

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker and festival director Jon Fitzgerald. They discuss Jon's career path from filmmaker to festival director, his advocacy work helping other filmmakers, and his efforts to leverage film for social change. Jon shares insights from his experiences running festivals, making documentaries, and advising other creatives. We also talk about: Jon's experience being rejected from Sundance and subsequently founding the Slamdance Film Festival ...

Jun 14, 20241 hr 46 minEp. 379

378 - Indie Talk w/ Chris & Nick - Hollywood Business Dynamics, Ghosting in the Film Industry, and Funding and Feedback Loops in Filmmaking

Hello, Hello! On this episode of the MAKE IT podcast, Chris and Nick discuss their passion for filmmaking and creativity. They explore questions of love and doubt, barriers to creative expression, and industry insights. The hosts also analyze characters from GI Joe, power dynamics in Hollywood, and the appreciation of artists at film festivals. We also talk about: - Political views expressed at comedy shows and how audiences prioritize their interests - The Netflix show “Baby Reindeer” and its e...

Jun 04, 20241 hr 43 minEp. 378

377 - Actor Sara Antonio - Working on Will Trent, Lessons on Acting from Louis Gossett Jr, Scene Study Techniques, Overcoming Rejection in the Entertainment Industry, and Crafting Stories and Careers Outside the Studio System

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris talks with Actor Sara Antonio. They discuss her acting journey and experiences in television and film, sharing insights into scene study techniques, audition strategies, and mental wellness in the industry. Sara also reflects on memorable roles and working alongside icons like Louis Gossett Jr., offering advice he imparted to younger performers. We also talk about: Sara's role on the ABC/Hulu series Will Trent and her approach to character development Inspira...

May 24, 20242 hr

376 - Nathan Rigaud - Whale Animation Studios Creative Executive, Cinematographer, and Animator - Deconstructing the Art of Visual Storytelling, Going from From PA to Director, Learning the Film Industry as a Teenager | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker Nathan Rigaud. Nathan shares his background and experience in filmmaking, including working on sets and creating his own animated content. They discuss challenges in the indie film industry and the importance of proper planning, collaboration, and starting small. The group also explores early underwater filmmaking and personal experiences with sharks. We also talk about: Nathan discusses the structure of his animation company, Wha...

May 14, 20241 hr 43 min

375 - Reviewing ‘Monkey Man’, Representation in Film, Content Overload, Influencer Personas, Mike Tyson’s Fight with Jake Paul, and Historic Breakout Roles | Indie Talk

Hello, Hello! In this episode of The MAKE IT Podcast, Chris and Nick discuss the current state of film, television, and streaming content. They delve into topics around content overload, authenticity, influencer personas, and actors' early roles. The hosts also play a trivia game, guessing actors' first feature films and providing film recommendations. We also talk about: The impact of too much content on meaningful conversations and shared experiences around entertainment Maintaining personas a...

May 03, 20241 hr 27 min

374 - Micah Simms, Cinematographer - The Art of Visual Storytelling, Secrets from a Film and Commercial Shoot Pro, Crafting Shots from Concept to Screen, and Mapping Shots to the Director's Vision

Hello, Hello! In this episode, we have a conversation with Cinematographer Micah Simms. Chris interviews Micah about his career journey and experiences working in commercials and films. They discuss Micah's passion for the craft of Cinematography and his collaborative work with Directors like Motke Dapp. We also talk about: - Techniques for lighting and shooting scenes effectively - Challenges of the film industry and finding work-life balance - Maintaining integrity through difficult content de...

Apr 23, 20241 hr 57 min

373 - Filmmakers Dexter Strong Buell & Derek Mindler on Speaking Truth in an Attention-Seeking Culture, Untangling Cult Cinema Cash Cows, A New Kind of Film School, Indie Ingenuity, and Their Short Film The South Shore | Indie Talk Takeover

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmakers Dexter Strong Buell and Derek Mindler about their experiences in the indie film space, including Dexter's recent short film " The South Shore " and Derek's work as a cinematographer. They also discuss challenges in filmmaking and education, using new technology like 360 videos for location scouting, and an upcoming film school in New York City focused on below-the-line skills. We also talk about: - The differences between working...

Apr 12, 20241 hr 48 min

372 - Jason Padgitt, Executive Director of the Nashville Film Festival - Inside the World of Film Festival Programming, The Power of Music Docs, What Festival Selections Reveal about a Film, and Balancing Art, Industry and Integrity

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris has a conversation with Jason Padgitt, Executive Director of the Nashville Film Festival. They discuss Jason's role and responsibilities at NaFF, the film selection process, balancing industry and artistic interests, and the future of AI in filmmaking. Enjoy this insightful conversation about the inner workings of a major independent film festival. We also talk about: - Importance of music and music-based films to NaFF - Balancing industry influence with arti...

Apr 02, 20241 hr 51 min

371 - Angus Benfield - Actor, Director, and Producer | The Story Behind “The Keeper,” Independent Filmmaking on a Budget, Tips for Avoiding Burnout, AI Tools, and Following Your Passion into a Career

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Angus Benfield about his career as an Actor, Producer, Writer and Director and his upcoming film "The Keeper" which tackles the important issue of veteran suicide. They discuss Angus' process for bringing real stories to the screen, finding financing for independent films, and keeping creative energy as a filmmaker. Chris and Nick also have a thoughtful conversation with Angus about the role of artificial intelligence in the film industry a...

Mar 22, 20241 hr 36 min

370 - Launching Films in the Digital Age, New Models for Connecting Creators and Audiences, Navigating the Legal Landscape of Entertainment, and Optimizing the Film Industry | Daril Fannin & Austin Worrell - Founders, Kino Studios

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Daril Fannin and Austin Worrell from Kino Studios . They discuss challenges in the film industry and opportunities for new models to empower creators through technology. Daril and Austin share their experiences and explain their mission to build efficient tools through Kino Studios to help filmmakers launch globally and connect with audiences. We also talk about: - The meaning of "making it" in the film industry and how technology can empow...

Mar 12, 20241 hr 34 min

369 - Balancing Art and Commerce in Independent Film, Using Art for Activism and Social Change | Actor, Writer & Producer Jordan Charles

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Actor, Writer, and Producer Jordan Charles about his film project "Brothers in Arms," which explores themes of family, redemption, and the impact of war through two brothers separated at a young age. Jordan shares how his own family history influenced the film and informed his perspective as an artist. Chris and Nick provide insights into navigating the creative and business sides of independent filmmaking, as well as using art as a platfor...

Mar 04, 20241 hr 28 min

368 - Indie Talk Takeover | Why Film Festivals Still Reign Supreme for Filmmakers, Staying Motivated, and Ranking the Best Films of Awards-Season | Host and Founder of Film Wax Radio - Adam Schartoff

Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Adam Schartoff, the host of the long-running podcast Film Wax Radio. They discuss Adam's experience maintaining a podcast for over 790 episodes and the challenges of keeping enthusiasm and motivation over many years. They also debate strategies for film festival juries and screeners, the importance of festivals for filmmakers, and whether certain mainstream films deserve criticism. We also talked about: - Adam's experience reviewing films f...

Feb 20, 20241 hr 34 min

367 - Indie Talk Takeover | Preserving Culture Through Documentary Filmmaking, Nonprofits, and Education | Filmmakers Nicholas Mihm & Rostam Zafari

Hello, Hello! In this episode, we are joined by filmmaking partners Nicholas Mihm and Rostam Zafari. They discuss their filmmaking partnership, their new documentary 'Bubjan,' their nonprofit work promoting Iranian culture, and future projects exploring physician burnout through animation and entrepreneurship through documentary storytelling. We also talk about: Nicholas Mihm shares his background in independent filmmaking based in Los Angeles with features like In the Dark Valley and Helen Beli...

Feb 09, 20241 hr 28 min

366 - Indie Talk Takeover | Developing a Characters Authenticity, Backstory, and Truth to Roles | Acting Teacher & DigiFest Founder Diane Strand

**Warning: Early in this episode, Chris says that Charlton Heston was not in a lead role in the iconic film Ben-Hur. This is obviously insane and a short-term hallucination because Ben-Hur is one of Charlton's most iconic roles.** Apologies! Hello, Hello! In this episode, Chris and Nick speak with Acting Teacher and Co-Founder of JDS Actors Studio, Diane Strand. Diane shares her extensive background working in the entertainment industry, where she has taken on many roles including actor, author,...

Jan 30, 20241 hr 12 min
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