Unveiling New Year's Resolutions #201

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It is Nick K. Here I'll come out flexing and in the red corners, bending an amazing nine foot nine. Laying down. Laying down. The beatboxer beat down. Woo! That's Nubito.

Thank you it's great to be here if you got in a fight and you actually did sound effects while you were fighting like you'd be like how dare you i'm like did you just beatbox and slap me at the same time yeah i'm not i'm not against it it's a nice idea it's a nice idea and i'll work on it but and you know i'm gonna film it if i was to do that so stay tuned but look here we are episode 201.

Some people who listened to episode 200 might be saying, what the hell guys, you said you're going to take two weeks off. Well, magic is about surprise and well, we missed you guys. So we thought let's just start a week early. Who needs two weeks off anyway? Yeah. We actually missed each other more than anything. And Doug didn't miss us as much, which is why he's not here today. He has a life.

He is enjoying his holiday time with his family, but he will be back fear or not and he does send his love and wish all of our listeners a very happy new year with lots of magic love and prosperity which is basically what we're talking about today with all new years that come there's always that annoying notion of the news resolution some folks go never gonna, this again i'm never gonna that again i'm gonna lose weight i know what mine are i break them every year although this year i'm

gonna be yeah what's the saying like yeah i quit quitting smoking's easy i do it every year or something like that yeah yeah exactly right so so we put the call out to you guys and we kind of said hey planets what are your new results let's say that again what are not what are your new year's resolutions i wrote down a 10 of them in total but I want to hear what you guys have to say.

So thank you for sending through your speak pipes. Josh, do we have a speak pipe loaded up? We have one that came through before we put out this call. And this was a really nice thing to hear. It comes from a gentleman in the US named, well, in brackets, he says, Mr. James. I think that might be his performing name, but his name is LeSean James. Very suave, very, suave is the best word I got right now. in the morning. He's in through a speak pipe. We're going to play it for you now. Here we go.

I've been telling myself I was going to leave a speak pipe for a really long time. And tonight was one of the nights where I had to leave one because I need you all to know how much of an impact you're having on magicians, especially ones that are hobbyists looking to become more like semi-professionals or professionals. You all are amazing inspiration and you've just created avenues for people to learn and grow and even to work. And so I'm a San Antonio magician.

I'm working at a residency at Holy Moly where I'm able to do magic. And it's just been an amazing experience. And so I wanted to reach out to you all and say thank you for your support as far as just the podcast. And I really, really hope you know deep, deep, deep down inside that your podcasts are not only reaching people, but really affecting them in a positive way. And so let me speak on behalf of everyone who hasn't yet left a speak pipe to

say thank you. and say thank you to all of you for what you're doing for the magic community um it really is just a healthy healthy podcast and a healthy place to listen and to grow thank you guys. Wow dude that was nice we're really making a difference aren't we pal one magic wand at a time that's really cool james thank you for the kind words and thank for being part of Omegan. Really happy to have you aboard. It's really nice.

When magic is a gift and being in the true nature of giving, you give without the expectation of receiving if you're truly in the spirit of giving, much like we would in Christmas time. And to hear that back is beautiful and unexpected, but deeply appreciated. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for those beautiful words. Amazing. I've not had the pleasure of speaking with Mr. James before, but I hope we get to hear more from it.

Yeah, super cool. And also, you know, we enjoy doing this, but there is something about once you, I forget that there's like a, there's like four tiers of what you do in a profession. And it's like, you like learn from someone, you work really hard, you like make a career and then you like send the elevator back down and you like help the next cycle of people do it. And, you know, we're in no way, you know, big, famous magicians, but we just already enjoy.

Well, Nick is famous, you know, but, but, you know, we just like to. Infamous. Infamous, yeah. Nice. We love it is what I'm saying. And this is a great outlet. And we're just so thankful that you guys enjoy it too. All right.

Enough of that before we make Nick start crying. The next big pipe that came in, starting with the New Year's goals, is from Kyle W. Magic. Is he in the chat today, Kyle? Are you there? This is your big pipe. Let's see. I have not vetted this in advance, so let's see what Kyle has for us. Is it rolling? Oh, sorry. You can't hear that.

The important thing about magic is to share people and sometimes sharing is also comes in like being able to hear things and that is hilarious you see me putting my fist up like yeah yeah because i'm listening to it really you're just for the listeners i'm just i i heard silence but then i see josh's sort of fist pumping like yeah man there's some words coming out of this uh luckily the ai editor in the audio that cuts out the the silent spots you

probably won't notice that awkward silence if you listen to this on also we do this live we do this live it's just unedited it's just straight raw dogging into the microphone so uh let's let's give it let's give it a take two on speak pipe two here we go hey guys kyle w magic here from the uk are you hearing this now first of all happy new year to you all and my 2025 goals are complete the free ball cascade juggle if you've got any tips send

them my way please because i've been struggling for about two three months now in the rhythm and stuff but i'd like to hear what your views are and your goals are for 2025 and do we get jason back this year dun dun dun.

So i think i heard him say he's trying to do the three ball cascade juggle is what he said one of his goals are oh is that what he said i i'm pretty sure because he has a great sexy uk accent which girls love but for us we're trying to decipher we're trying to translate from british to standard whatever english is to aussie accent i think that's what he said the three ball cascade juggle which i'm guessing is your classic one over one over,

I think the tips for that is you just have to do it. I remember, because I remember really enjoying juggling when I was a teenager. And you just have to make a routine where every morning you make yourself do, like 20 cycles of it without dropping or you do it again. Once you nail it, then great. You go back the rest of your day. Then tomorrow, you just make sure you start your day with it. Have your juggling balls right next to your bed or on your desk.

And you just do it much like in magic where it's like, all right i really want to nail the anaconda so how do you do that well you gotta freaking do it a lot over your bed and drop them so repetition i think if i had to yeah i would say anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hung well that that's that's actually leads me to my goal for 2025, is to get some buns yeah yeah well i mean i look i i i don't know enough about juggling to to um,

To give you any expert advice, but the way that I try to break down almost anything that I need to achieve in my life is little victories. I focus on very little victories. And it might be something to the extent of if I want to run five kilometers without dying, I will start with 500 meters. And if I do that and I win, then that's just a small win. And then focus on going one kilometer, two kilometer, three kilometer or a mile.

It doesn't particularly matter. But the point is that little victories lead to big wins. And I think that if you break it down in small pieces, whether it be like a single move or I don't know, you know, just just or phases. If a certain phases of a routine or certain phases of a book or even like a script, you know what I mean? Like you just just take a one bite at a time and see how you go. And I hope I'm hoping that applies to juggling, but that's sort of the best advice I can give.

For somebody who doesn't know how to juggle, I would sort of go, okay, let's just toss one ball from one hand to the other and then try to get a second one involved and then a third one and then break down what the phases look like when you sort of go from it goes from this hand to this hand, then up and over. Like I would just do those one at a time, like for as long as it takes and then go, okay, I'm ready to go to like the fifth phase of this three ball juggle type thing.

I mean, I hope that's of something of help. Yeah, I hope we actually heard that correctly and you're not actually saying you want to learn like the Cascade Shuffle or something. People could just be listening back to this being like, look at these stupid boys that don't even listen to their people. And we apologize if that's the case. But either way, I think that the practice method still stands. Little victories, lots of little bite to eat the elephant.

100%. All right, next SpeakPipe 2025 New Year goals is from a friend of ours from the podcast and fellow Melbourneite, LJ. Liam Jumpets, he sent in a speak pipe. Thank you for sending that in, Liam. We're going to play yours now, and I'm hoping you hear it straight first go. Hey everyone, it's LJ here from Melbourne. Lots of love to you all and a very happy new year. I have some very ambitious goals for 2025.

I'm going to be producing a brand new show this year and also continuing to develop the show that I won an award for last year in 2024. And I'll be putting it on in front of the biggest crowd that I've done the show for yet.

And yeah my goal is to build as good of a team as possible to help produce that show because i can tell you right now it's definitely not going to be an easy slog by myself but yeah i know that i can absolutely count on the people close to me and yeah work on that with them but yeah i'll be producing a show in the adelaide fringe festival i'll be producing a show in the melbourne comedy festival then the magic festival and then the

fringe festival in melbourne later on in the year as well. So big, big year. And as well as all of that, I'll have all my regular stuff going on as well. So yeah, fingers crossed, that'll be fantastic. And yeah, if you guys have got any tips or tricks for managing workload whilst also keeping up all the other hobbies in my life, then yeah, please feel free to share. Lots of love. Cheers. That's awesome, LJ. Thank you for sending it through. Just a quick plug for a show.

It's called magic safe which is based off a work safe conversation we have here in town we spoke about it on lj's episode a few episodes back by all means look it up totally worth a listen lj is an amazing performer slash amateur pro wrestler and he puts those sort of two entities together and produces this really brilliant show that's super duper funny i've seen it and it's great and it's got so much potential to basically. To be worthy of awards at like Melbourne's Comedy Festival.

It really does. But producing shows of this nature, as you sort of mentioned, like what are there to think about? What is there to work on? I think having a great show, step one, is probably one of the most important things. And you do have an infrastructure and community that are going to help you do that. You've got people you can lean on like me and everyone else in the Magic community, people within our Discord.

Like we're all here for each other and we all want to see each other succeed. That's the easy part. But I think the other part that I think Josh would be better equipped to answer would be things like the marketing entities and the promo and things where, you know, how do we sell bums on seats, for example, because you could produce the most amazing show, but if no one knows about it, what happens then? Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, the very easy answer is you need to get like a publicity agent.

If you're like, I mean, that's if you are doing a big tour or something or like a week long run where if you need to sell like a ton of tickets, then because you do have to pay for a PR agency, but they are the ones that will get you on TV and stuff.

That's like the simple answer. but what i caught lj asking really was how to manage the workload of doing that and keeping up with work and hobbies and stuff so i think his question was because he understands that doing these shows are going to require a lot of his time what's a tip to manage that workload.

Sacrifice sacrifice i know that you like if you're someone who like okay like i don't play video games i don't spend a lot of time tinkering with just watching tv shows like i don't sit in front of netflix and just like kill three or four hours i would rather do that in front of a book so that's the sort of suggestion i have for things like that that there's going to be certain things you're going to need to sacrifice and sometimes those sacrifices will look like you have to get up

earlier in the morning to get what you're going to get done to make time for things you know that's that old saying it's like if they want to be here they'll be here like it's you know you can make excuses, yes, but I think ultimately, bro, like, you just gotta change down priorities and hope that people can support and understand you. I mean, I second what Nick said. And I said, I also, a thing that has helped me manage my time is funnily enough, planning it out.

So I have discovered the most genius way of making sure that I make content every day and it's by fucking writing it down. So I've got myself a whiteboard and I plan out, this is from last week, but I plan out like Monday to Sunday, what piece of content I'm going to make. And therefore it's so easy to walk in the next day into this room and go, oh yeah, today I'm cutting this thing, like a snippet from my show.

Or today I'm going to find a trend on Instagram and I'm going to make my version of it. And that way I'm already thinking about the videos I'm going to make through the week. And it gives me more time for my brain to come up with the best idea of it.

Whereas I used to come in here and completely from scratch every day go oh what am i gonna do today and i'll spend like freaking 20 minutes, just wasting time trying to think of something so anyway it's like such a small thing that you know i don't know why i wasn't doing this before but planning out your week that way you'll know if you actually have time to fit everything in and what not to fit in like nick was was uh was saying.

But keep us updated keep also like having the discipline to follow through having a plan is one thing you know but plans without action are just dreams isn't that the saying that is like that is the saying yeah so if you like you know you get to this point where you say like i wanna i wanna this i wanna that but then you got to turn those one is into goners and actually do what you're gonna, so i like it yeah good luck with that lj you're gonna be just fine you got a great show

we've spoke about stuff and i threw out a suggestion and he was like i can't do that you can you just got to make it happen because that's a big really challenging it's supposed to be yeah but he's got everything he needs to make that happen and he and i will talk about that over some lovely korean fried chicken very very soon yeah hell yeah all right last big pipe scotty p scotty p scotter the mid-strength magician, has sent in his big pipe just this morning, I believe.

Thank you for sending that in. Let's see what Scotty has in store for us. What's going on, Magic guys and viewers? It's Scotty P here. I have a rather aspirational goal for 2025, which is to replace my full-time job with being a corporate magician. I do have a strategic plan in place to get there, but it is aspirational, as I mentioned. I have a much more simple goal for 2025, which is just a gig. I just want to get out there. I want to perform.

I like doing the charity events, the gala dinners and charity balls. However, I'll just take what I can get, whether they're private parties or whatever. Just that's it. I want to get out there. I want to perform and I want to get more gigs under my belt. Wishing everyone the best for 2025. And hopefully I'll be able to tune in to the next episode. See ya.

Good goals yeah nice essentially get out there and perform is what i'm hearing from scotty and that's the right the right attitude to approach it with i think it's also good to know what you want if you don't know what you want you don't really know where to go like if you're sort of if you need direction in your life i so i guess let me take a step back from that it's like if study's in a position thankfully where he's like i know what i want and i'm going to start

taking small steps to get that. That is step one. That's great. Sometimes you're sitting there going, okay, what are your steps this year? You go, well, I don't know. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what I need to, whatever else. And that's okay. We've all been there. I feel like that at least twice a year. But I think that what happens then, if I can give you any direction, is take a second and focus on what you don't want to do.

And by eliminating what you don't want to do, it'll give you perspective to find out what you do want to do. So let's say, for example, you say, I want to do gigs and you go, great. Do you want to do kids parties? And you go. Do you want to do your own shows? No, not really. Like, I won't be able to sell tickets. Like, what do you want? Like, I just want to get asked to do a couple of birthday parties or maybe get a residency and go, okay, great. Now you've got some focus.

Let's write down three sort of gigs that you would like to be performing. Okay, cool. And then figure out how to get there. So that's kind of what I like to do.

If it's like, if you don't know what you do want to do, focus on what you don't want to do, and just through process of elimination, it'll help you figure out at least a direction that you can start going into and you can always pivot that you can always go back and pivot but just move forward don't confuse movement with progress you know just because you're thinking about something you think that you're like your brain's moving and you're getting

progress done you're not it's not until you start putting distance that you start making progress it's not until you start losing your hair that you're working so hard that you're making progress oh you can see how far I've come. Yeah.

I had a ponytail on episode 10. I had an afro. An afro. Man, that's so weird to think. I had hair at the beginning of this podcast, like episode one to episode, I don't know, 50 or I forget. Anyway. Yeah. I just renewed my international license because I'll be heading overseas shortly and I have a photo from, I think it was like 2007 versus now. And it's like, Jesus Christ, I look tired. What now or back then? Now I look tired. I'm like, oh my God, you look tired, old man.

Yeah. Pre-beard, pre-all that. Bold, but pre-beard. So like it was, it's a fun time. But is that the last of our speak pipes? That is the last of our speak pipes. And we want to head into our own goals or advice or thoughts that we've had over Christmas. Yeah. Before we do that, you and I were having a really cool conversation about a really awesome visitor that came past the Theatre of Magic.

Should we touch about that real quick before we press into the cheeky list of mine? Because I think that's a very cool story.

Absolutely. Pretty surreal. So... There is it there is its own story as to how this came to be but that can be for another time, essentially adam chaya adam sorry adam shire i found out that's how you pronounce his name he at first i knew he was like a hobbyist magician right but then i found out no he's actually the creator of siri that we all use in our iphones his company created siri and sold it originally it was an app available on the ios app store and then he sold it

to apple and i'm just reading what google says apple bought it for 200 million dollars was that all since then adam also he has five companies he has a company called viv labs he.

Also created change.org the website jesus there's like and then there's like three other things anyway great guy like just really fascinating mind and he and his family came to brisbane specifically to see our theater of magic show like i'm talking he landed and two hours later he was at our theater having dinner beforehand surah show he had lunch with us the next day and then early in the morning following that they left and kept going on their holiday like they went to melbourne to

and stuff it was crazy and that was because another magician had mentioned me that he knows in the u.s and so it all kind of like worked out really well anyway so you know he's coming so you're like holy crap like how do we what do we do we're like let's just do our normal thing he came and saw the show and this guy and he and he even said like any advice i give you just know this might not be actual advice for a normal audience seeing a show because he might be he might have seen the most magic

on earth than any one person like has consumed like he makes it a point to seek out every magician he can every show he can like they'll travel as he did for us to see a show if he.

Hears about it and he's there's a different angle on it like he wants to go in and see it and stuff and something else you should know is he has an annual party where he hires the best magicians from around the world to perform at for his guests now when i say that he showed me photos on his phone and he has a video on youtube of like the recap of this event so i'm not saying anything that isn't already public but he's flipping through his phone and I'm seeing at his party, he's like a vent.

He's got Eric Chen. And, doing his event. Roving, he has Danny D.O.T.'s doing the roving. So Danny D.O.T.'s is there roving. Eric Chen is doing a stage performance. Charlie Fry is doing a performance. What? The year before that, he had Shin Lim, or two years before that, he had Shin Lim. And there was like three other crazy people that I saw on that. Like, they're all headliners. That would be one person at an event, but he's brought them all to one place.

What I'm saying is like, it's insane to see that. And so what it tells me is, okay, he has access to like all the top magicians in the world. And he's telling me stories about him in Copperfield because they're friends, because they're on the same kind of wavelength, you know, business wise and stuff. And, you know, just insane.

Then we ask him about our show, right? So he's seeing the show, we ask him the next day like do you have advice and stuff and then something he specifically said to me was all the top magicians that i love personally that i fly out to perform at my event are there because they're like a like they have a specific character or a specific niche in which they excel at like they're a magician who can do this or like they're a magician but they also do this art form on top of it they're not

just a magician doing just a blasé of great tricks they're like he's the best in the world at that thing and when he said he watched my show the character he gets the vibe of is the master sleight of hand angle like because i'm doing very intricate difficult close-up sleight of hand stuff and he and that's what he enjoyed watching but.

Then he said but then you do a trick that has nothing to do with that and i'm thinking why did you why is that trick in the show that has nothing to do with this character i've seen you doing the rest of the show and what he's talking about is a drink prediction where the drink changes in the can and you pour it out he's like how come you did all this intense sleight of hand and great stuff but then you end with something

that has nothing to do with the rest of your show and the only answer I could give him was, I know it gets a good reaction. Like I know I built the routine to have good beats and laughter and stuff, but you're right. Really, if I ask why I'm doing it, it's only because of like, I know it will get a good reaction. So what he posed to me is, once you know what your character is, you should always be able to answer the question of why is my character doing

this routine in this show? Yeah. And the patter or your scripting should explain to the audience why you're doing it. Like each routine should like reveal something about yourself, like yourself being your character. So that they come away after the show feeling like they've really learned a lot more about who that performer is. And so I had no intention of that being a goal for 2025.

But now it really is to build the show making sure that every piece that i'm doing like is something my character would do and sprinkle some form of truth within it to tie it together and like leave them knowing more about like the identity of me so i don't get lost in the sea of.

You know oh are you the same guy that did our event like three years ago they did something with the cube as well like i don't i want you know that's how you help make sure that they know like nick k specifically not you know this great magician at some point we saw what was his name i don't know really like i could go so deep on this it just kind of blew my mind but but that and he then he gave me examples of like the david blanes and even the chris angels and

the copperfield and he like could really isolate each one and tell me about them and why their shows are the way they are and why they end the way they end and really cool stuff like my head almost exploded and yeah really grateful that have spent time with him and that was adam shayer that's really cool and that's really high praise as well like to receive someone you know that what what spins me out the most is his understanding of magic is phenomenal like

it really is but i mean what do you expect the man's a genius and he's achieved so many brilliant things in his career you know what i mean being able to sell sirion and so forth like power to him like what an absolute privilege and honor to to meet someone like that and spend time with him that's fantastic dude. Yeah. Also, he talked really highly of a magician named Joe Barry. Have you heard of this gentleman before? I lectured with Joe Barry some years ago. Yes.

From the UK, right? I think in the UK. Yes. Joe Barry is one of the best kept secrets in magic.

Imagine Danny D Ortiz, but really English and really handsome like that's so and and and the stuff he does it's it's when i say like we're not talking like hey oh we're talking like proper english gentlemanly blah blah blah but his card work and the stuff he does like to give an example we'll be sitting at a table and we'll just be jamming and then he'll do something where like the car where they'll someone will think just think of a card and then you snap your your your fingers and

then you take your cards out of your box and that card's been inverted but not only your card the guy in front of you the guy next to you the guy next to you the guy next to you the guy everyone take your cards out and spread and somehow in amongst all the interactions he's taken everyone's deck and just inverted them and given them back to you and stuff and like like there is a level of of jedi that guy does and i've watched his

his works i've seen his dvds it's not even a tenth of what i've seen him do in person my most favorite thing i ever saw him do and this wasn't and it wasn't even a force was he grabbed a deck, right? And he lifted the back left corner with his thumb and he showed me the pip in this instance, the three of diamonds, right? He then clipped it between his thumb and first finger, no break, no out jog, nothing. He asked the spectator to say stop and then gave him the deck to shuffle.

And I looked at him and I went, Joe. And he looked at me as if just very kind of nonchalant, like, yeah, I'm that guy. And I was like, Joe. And he was like, I got this. And I'm like, No. And then I said.

Do you know and i explained oh it's just timing it's just timing like i'm really good at estimation and i was like okay can we can we explore that together he said yeah and so and so we're doing stuff and he was like boom throw it anywhere in the deck and he just by estimation was just cutting to it like every time or off by one one time like it was it was amazing to see that level of it and how we got there is an amazing story and i don't know if i'm privileged if i should be saying it

or not but i might save that for a different story i might bring him on board and he might share the story himself but he's extremely good to get a hold of we have to get yeah i will i know a guy that books him every year so maybe he can get us in touch because adam could not speak highly of him more highly he said he's like what you just said the best like underground kept secret crazy magic and adam hides him every year for his party and the reason is he said adam adam

said that joe gave him the best like the most magical moment of magic he could ever.

Like he gave him the best moment of magic he's ever felt is what he described and it wasn't any card at any number which for most layman isn't normally ranked as like the best plot but for adam it is because he's a data guy a business guy you know an analyst guy yeah so the the story he said was you know there's all these methods of any any card any number you've got the ozzy wins the you know all these different versions with stacks and and this is just what i'm saying

is like they always use a box they always you know blah blah blah but joe did a version where he sat the deck on the table and from my memory he never touched it after that and he asked me to name a card.

And a number and he never approached the deck he let me approach it and he's like i know three different stacks and this is not in a stack but when i got to that number it was my card and adam said he just jumped back from his chair like this is ridiculous and then joe's like yeah that's like that's like my thing at the moment that i've been working on it's the thing that you know i'm really proud of and adam like this

is insane yeah and so i'll share one last joe story before we press on because when I lectured at the GenieCon convention, it was, I think it was myself, Levant, and Joe Barry, and we were doing a show. And it was in three separate rooms. What was happening was, as we performed in each room, we would then circulate and perform for these different groups. It was a very large convention. And so the audiences stay put, but the performers change.

And I walk into Joe's room to a standing ovation that I had to follow. Woo-hoo! Gary davis who's in the chat he was actually there uh that's actually where i think where he and i set up a friendship but yeah it was it was phenomenal like just just great i got my ovation as well thankfully but i think out of pity more than anything like it was a good act but.

Erroneous like he's so difficult to get a hold of there's no socials of him he barely even has a website and and the funny thing i spoke to him he was like i only work for like five people they book me regularly they pay me a ton to be there i work for apple i work for this i work for that and this makes sense now this is the this is the conduit that we just sort of like put together so putting two or two together like yes joe

barry if anyone has any contacts with him let him know we'd love to share who you are that would be amazing and just to see you again bud it's been a while it'd be good to see you so yeah there we are but cool story so circling back to this new year's resolution that we are currently facing i put together a small list of things that i think would be very beneficial to those who are moving forward. Now, I put together a small list.

Well, I say it's 10. It's 10 things that I think are going to be very beneficial. So starting with number one, here we go, folks. Number one, learn a new slight or technique every month.

And I think the reason for that is that ultimately, I've always treated slights and techniques as tools in a toolbox and you might not always need those tools but i think ultimately it's going to help with for me my creativity and also help me to expand my repertoire i've started putting together some really cool card effects and what i'm trying to figure out more now is i'm trying to figure out how to gaff things more and

how to how to find different ways to like strip cards out and different things like that. And it's a very minor thing, but just for example, I want to be able to hold the deck and just like this, be able to strip out like a slug of cards for an effect. And yes, I can do it with a cull or just by doing something nonchalant or a couple of passes of just going through the cards, but I don't want it to be that. I want it to be something that's like, I didn't even see when he did that.

And I just feel like that'll be an extra level of stuff. So I'm learning new techniques, new slides, how to gaff cards and things like that. Do you agree with that, Josh? Dude, I've just been reading Ozzy Wynn's repertoire too. And it has an exact thing of what you're talking about. And I wonder if that's what you've been learning about as well. It's so funny because Dooley was sharing that on a chat the other day. A good friend from New Zealand, Brendan Dooley.

I read the first one on a flight back from the States. And basically the first one, I was like, oh, the 20 ways to do ACON. And then he goes, oh, no, this one is the 20 ways to do the card inside box, like the folded card inside box. I mean, that is a chapter in there for sure, but like there's so much other stuff as well. One of them being what you're explaining, how you could strip a slug out from any shuffle deck, like, sorry, from your deck.

We will talk about that after the show. 100%. But yes, learning, that's why I got the book. I want to learn a new slight a month. And I agree. I agree. In fact, I will share a couple of things later on. The second thing, number two, polish and refine one signature routine. So I have certain routines that I am putting together and I have the luxury of performing them regularly, but I'm really trying to trim the fat as much as possible and in order to give it the ultimate magic effect.

And so for me, it requires a lot of experimentation and the many different versions of performing stuff. So I guess that if I was going to share this advice to anybody else, I would say, choose one of your go-to effects and focus on making it perfect. Like how do better the timing, better the scripting and better the audience management or optimize.

For me, it's like optimizing the audience management. There's a couple of things that I do that would work better if I just had somebody to my right, just so I can show them something and be like, think of one of these cards. Yeah. And then just throw the deck away. And I can just do things of that nature that are better. I have been experimenting with this recently. And I was like, okay, I got a situation where I've got a person to my left and

right. And I can do this effect for everyone in front of them. And they didn't speak English. And I was like, crap. So that was something that I had to learn. So I'm going to go, right. I had the intention of doing this act or this routine rather. But unfortunately, it didn't come out. But if I didn't have the mindset of focusing on a go-to effect and trying to make it absolutely perfect. I wouldn't have found these problems or had these failures slash learning situations, lessons, if you will.

Yeah, that's solid. I got nothing to add there. It's great. All right. Number three, read a classic magic book. I think revisiting foundational works in magic like Card College, for me, like it's Bobo's Modern Coin Magic.

I like to revisit maximum entertainment every now and again now i don't need to do this in such a way that like i read it from back to front but i do tend to flick through things so even last night i wanted to have an early night and i just i just couldn't sleep so i i ripped out by my bed i got a whole pile of books but i just reached over and i grabbed strong magic well first i was reading designing miracles and as i was reading the foreword written by wit hayden i decided to it

was mentioning some stuff in strong magic and i and i kind of felt like i didn't, retain enough from strong magic so i decided to reread it and as i was going through i actually came across something that you kind of mentioned earlier about your chat about like the authenticity of your of your character and so forth and this was a really funny line that i read in this book and it says here as a magician you should seriously take the old gag that the secret to success is sincerity.

And once you learn to fake that, you got it made. And I was like, that's funny. That's really funny. Yeah. But it's those little things that you sort of go like, yeah, it's just these little reminders of going back through books to do that. So, you know, know where you came from to know where you're going.

And Bobo's Modern Coin Magic is just a good reminder every time. Books Separate to magic, I have read a ton of sales books, mainly because I created a keynote called The Magic of Sales, which I was doing for a while. And once you read enough of them, you start to realize they're all saying the same principles because they obviously work. But sometimes you do need to just be re-familiarized with those same plots again.

So when I was flying back from New Zealand after Christmas, I was like, you know what, instead of watching movies and just... Zoning out for this four hours, I'm going to buy a book and I'm going to read that goddamn thing and see what comes out of it. And so I picked up the diary of a CEO by Stephen Bartlett.

And I've listened to a ton of his podcasts, but I was skimming through the start of this book and just from looking at the titles of the chapters, I was like, all right, this is going to be some good stuff. So I'll just share like one little quote that he has in here and maybe it'll prompt you to want to get the book as well. It has so many great tips for like how to look after your clients.

Cause essentially one of my goals this year is to really focus on like just treating my clients that book me as great as possible. What things can I do, you know, to make sure that they also want to have me again. They can have me again. And just like, how can I just give them the best experience of booking me? Anyway, a little thing they have in here is this thing called the psychological moonshot.

And the thing I circled was, and I'll explain what it is, but he goes, a psychological moonshot is relatively small. It's a small investment that drastically improves the perception of something. And so what he explains was he has this hairdresser that comes to his house to do his hair. And he's had him for like two years. And then one day he felt like the hairdress, was trying to rush his haircut because he just kind of finished the haircut and was like, okay, you're done.

And he's like, hang on. That felt like you don't care about me today. It felt like he kind of rushed what you're doing. But he looked at his watch and he's like, oh no, he spent the same amount of time he always does. And then he was like looking at his hair and he's like oh no my haircut is perfect, so why do I feel like you rushed my haircut and then he asked him he's like.

You did my hair great and you spent the same amount of time, but why do I feel like you were like trying to quickly get through my haircut? And then the hairdresser laughed. He's like, oh my God, that's so funny. He's like, I totally forgot to do, he calls it something else, the hairdresser, but he's like, I totally forgot to do my final check that makes clients feel like I'm spending that extra time with them.

And he's like, normally what I do with you is I go, okay I think you're done but let me just quickly look and he's like and I pretend to cut little extra little bits here and there as I look through your hair I'm not doing anything but I'm just like doing a final check is what he calls it and then he'll say ah and now you're done so he literally does nothing physically different but he does this little thing called a moonshot which is just a tiny investment that really has no difference

in the experience but it makes them feel like you've just spent this extra attention. And I thought that was freaking genius. And then, so when I relate that back to my own work, what I'm going to do from now on is I'm going to finish my gig. Normally I always go overtime anyway, just naturally because I enjoy the job, but that's a good thing to do in business, give them extra value. But now imagine you go, you've done your gig, you've spent that extra time.

And then you go to the client, you thank them and then you go oh actually that person didn't get to see quite enough magic i'm gonna go show them one more thing but then i'll thank you so much for having me i'm just gonna go do one more great idea that's like a little moonshot in what he's talking about this little psychological thing i think that's going to have a massive impact and it really changes nothing else that you have to physically do that's a

much better idea what i tend to do is i go hey i'm sorry i know i went over time i was just having a great time i hope you don't mind no thanks for sticking around do we need to pay you more absolutely no i had the best time you're kidding me thank you so much for having me hope to see you next year but your method i think is way better i think it's worth trying yeah i read it in the book you put on you know on time you basically put like a framing

around like oh wait i think i oh i'm about to head off but i promised gavin that i would show me one more before i leave but i just wanted to say goodbye in case i don't catch you later, oh cool who's that oh some guy over there you don't know him i mean shit to me but like that's that's a really cool way of framing it man, Yeah, let's try it and see what happens. And then just leave. And then just leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you don't do anything. It's just a dual reality.

Yeah, it's like I'm going to do one. Yeah, no, thank you for having me. I'm just going to do one more lap of the room just to make sure I have shown everyone magic. Like it could just be that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so this book is ton of little things like that. These little psychological things that just let the client know that you care and stuff like that. And so good. So good.

Diary of a ceo all right so we're up to what are we up to number number three okay number four number four number four is keep performing for new audiences regularly now that is one thing i'm trying to maintain i have the luxury of doing that through my residencies but what i mean by that is that something that i do but i think it's something worth sharing now the beauty of doing my residences is that because of each location and the times that i perform them in i have the privilege for

performing for different groups, such as seniors, children, families, annoying Eshes, and how to deal with those kids, all manner of different types of people. I most recently was performing at Chadston, which is our very big, I think it's the largest shopping mall or something in some hemisphere. There's a lot of money in there. It's a very cool place.

But there was this one family that was going through and one particular man that they were bogan as all get out and to the point where he was like literally it was upsetting people staff members specifically and so i see situations like this and i choose to involve myself to distract them or when i say distract them gain their attention and maintain them from bothering other people old mate comes. And I'm doing stuff, and his reactions are great, but they are very vocal with foul language.

And I'm going, whoa, my guy, there's children present. The kids went, that's okay, we know him. And I go, that may be, child, but we're in what's called a public place. And that sort of thing doesn't really fly here, my guy.

Mind your language. and then he was the most tame, lovely, pleasant guy that was just thankful to see Pawsome Magic and his family having a great time and they were all lovely and the kids were great and the parents were like on the kids to make sure they were behaving themselves and everything was great. They were actually really nice people but they just were a bit loose.

Well, Bads was loose. The rest of them were good eggs. It goes to show what bad apples can do but I think that those are the things super important. Now, number five, I've stopped doing this.

So i've used to do this every performance stage performance especially my roving stuff not so much but i used to record and review every performance i used to do on stage i think scotty scotty link mentioned this earlier in the chat and yes you are 100 correct it is the best way to improve your show because i'm my biggest critic like if somebody tries to give me hey man if you want some notes let me know i'm like no no your notes will be three and mine will be three books worth

of notes on how to improve myself don't worry about what you have to say like no one's harder than me than me and that's one of the things that i've kind of stopped doing whenever i'm doing my stage performances now by all means record them not always because i've got to record it because i need it for promo but record it because you just want to review what you're doing some people only record their audio they'll just put their phone on record

and put it by the speakers and just recall what they're saying cool idea that's fine. And some people want to see everything and just put a camera at the back of the room. I think that's essential. Josh, I know that you've got some thoughts on this. I mean, I do film every show a lot because I want to capture those one-off moments that I'll use to post on social. But it means that I am watching back every show that I do. And that's what has helped me create those moments that are fun to watch.

Because for a very long time, when I first started, I hated watching myself.

And you know that's a bit of a red flag if that does happen so yeah and you just notice stuff like oh why am I standing still for so long during this one thing for example you know I thought there was so much happening that I could do that and it wouldn't matter but you know if the audience is staring at you and I'm just standing sideways for so long like why aren't I doing that or like Like, you know, I'll notice myself.

The biggest thing is I'll notice myself fumbling with props, like unnecessarily. Like, whereas when you watch it back on video, I'm like, so easy example, I do a bottle production and then what I had been doing was I do the product bottle production. Then as I'm talking, I would go and sit it down on a table, come back to the front and then say, now for the next thing, I'm going to borrow whatever, $50.

And then I go out to the audience to find it. but then it occurred to me like why the hell don't I just keep holding that bottle while I then go into the next segue like why am I walking away to come back to then go out to the audience.

So now I stand there I talk do all the jokes it's so much more seamless now I hit my music cue and as I'm walking off stage to find the person I just sit it down and like that's such a little, detail that now watching back, it's like a little more aesthetically pleasing to see that happen.

So those little things help so much to watch it back and realize, but you know, and you'll just do that every show. There'll be a million things you can tweak. It's great.

Exactly right exactly right my dude and you know it's those sort of things where, like when i when i mentioned earlier like i just want to have a technique where i could just strip out a bank of cards it's things like that where like you're not just going hey guys how are we and just like then all of a sudden you're disengaged with your audience like nothing is that's just not the customer experience i want to give yes it's a method but there's a reason why i

the way i am and why i have like not the the the the gravitas and the performance where i can demand people's attention because i'm giving them all my attention and not giving it all to the deck you know to set things up and stuff and don't get me wrong like i'll stack i'll stack a deck when i break the fourth wall i'll do little things where i'll turn to my audience and go like what's what i do for a living what do you guys do and as they're doing that i'm just culling everything i need for

the next trick i'm like oh yeah cool you know what do you do i'm a plumber cool you like go-karting what yeah and you go down green pipes and collect coins or mario jokes that's right i do mario jokes ready to do the trick i'm all set like that's literally an interaction I had on Saturday night. So those things are important and I'm not doing it enough and I'm being accountable for it. So thank you.

Number six, create original routines. The reason I say that is it's a nice way to challenge yourself and it allows you to inject your own persona and personality into your routines.

One of the things that I think that allowed me to get a leg up in the industry in Oz and be invited to do things like lectures both in australia and abroad is the fact that i do original stuff and that i have routines that i've learned techniques and and whatever else and and perform them you can't really be a lecturer if you're going out there and performing everyone else's material it's not really.

You know you can't be a touring band as a cover band but if you're an original band you can go and do a tour and that's the way i think about it because i used to be in a band, and that's the reason i think about it like that way it's exactly the reason why so i i implore you to not always like i mean by all means do routines you've been doing like you can do let's just say very primitively like gregory wilson's coins across using the goshman pinch by all means you You can use that technique,

but do it your own way. Change one phase. Change one phase. All of a sudden, it becomes yours and the way you do it. I recommend that. Now, going into the next one, number seven, learn another discipline. Now, we kind of spoke about this briefly earlier, but let's take a deep dive into it. Now, what I mean by learning another discipline, what I mean is something outside of magic. Study acting, comedy, storytelling, improvisation, something that's going to enhance your performance skill.

Learn clowning. Learning things from Avner was the most beneficial thing to me. Learning how to control breath is so important. I see people perform and they're holding their breath in because they're nervous and it just holds tension. But if they just, I'm like, dude, exhale, what exhale just. And all of a sudden their shoulders drop and they're not puffed in their chest and they're not holding in this, this tension. Breathe, breathe for God's sake, breathe.

Like you're making me tense because it's going to be like, again, Scotty wants to learn a didgeridoo by all means, dude. When I was in a band, I literally, the first show I ever did, I performed with a bunch of guys with didgeridoos on stage. It was great. We played Green Day When I Come Around, and they played the bass line in the background. I was sick. I then met that cat like 20 years later, long story short. But learning other disciplines are important.

One of the things I've read most recently that was very beneficial is a book by Keith Johnson. It's a very short book, but it's called Improv. And it's about how to basically interact and improvise in situations.

He does it in the form of acting. I think it can be done in the form of just pitter-patter with your audience the very first thing he mentions in that book is status and whenever you do any scene you need to establish status and it doesn't mean that you have to be the alpha or you have to be the most important thing in the room for me very primitively I will come to a couple for example and I will address the woman as her majesty what is your name your majesty and all of a sudden she's

oh I'm Farrah And I'm like, wonderful. And then I go, say, say hi, Sarah. And the guy was like, hi, Sarah. And I go, what is your name? Handsome Stone is like, I'm Gavin. And I'm like, say hi, Gavin. She's like, hi, Gavin. And I go, I think she likes you, Gavin. And then he laughs like, yeah. And if they're on a first date, like that just sets it up, man.

Like that just sets it up. And because I've been jazzing a lot, I've started putting together routines in which it's like they do routines and they're both in sync. Just look at a car. Don't say what it is. Did you see one? Cool deal. Take one from the deck, classic force. Boom. What card are you thinking, man? I'm thinking the eight of halves. What did you get? And I'm like, oh my God, you're so in sync. That's crazy.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my God, we are. And then he's like, thanks for being my wingman, Mr. Magic. And you kind of go from there. Now, if I hadn't done things and read other books to influence the way I perform it, it wouldn't have led me down these paths, into these routines, into these scenarios where I walk into a situation, find a way to control it, and make it the best thing possible. So that's why I say, read those things. Read the diary of a CEO.

Read different things that are going to learn different things that are going to help you. Josh? Yeah read read read yeah number eight support the magic community.

Attend a magic convention hang out at a magic club collaborate with local magicians fellow magicians whoever it might be build connections that's so important you know one of the i mean mr james was just here earlier like he now works for a megan the same company that i built with nathan hedger that was just two venues in australia and now all over australia this is a result of us being able to contact him reach through different communities make

different contacts all across the planet go to magic live connect with other magicians in the states and start employing them like that's what community is about having this community in which we can offer advice that you like take on board and build careers look at like scotty p's doing shows you know what i mean our good friend the christian magician out there doing shows like these are all really cool things and i think that we're we're stronger together and as

long as we do it with the intent of bettering each other and and we generally care about each other i think that we're all going to be great i mean magic community in some places and we spoke about this briefly and we're going to go over time in this episode but josh we we've been around other communities where there's been a huge level of toxicity in different communities. I've seen it across different countries. It just doesn't work out well.

Anyone who is anti-magic or anti-someone doing well and they try to project that, that person who does that never really quite does as well as the person that just is supportive and treats it with love as opposed to the slander and the bad talk and the back talk and things like that. I can't understand why communities are like that.

Yeah i and i don't think magic is special for that i think that happens in in every industry right but yeah i guess you know you try and cut that out as quick as you can but sometimes people it's just egos get in the way right because yeah you're told every time you perform you're the best magician i've ever seen you're the best and but then you're like hang on how come that person's more successful than me i can do ambitious card as well and then this sort of tension

builds up and rather than just helping everyone because there's more more for everyone than you could handle, and so yeah it does definitely yeah tim tim says jealousy exactly right like yeah i i've talked about this on a podcast before i thought in the beginning when i was first getting into magic and i would go to the magic clubs and stuff and we're all sort of learning the same like we're all the same level we're all not really doing stuff i thought,

if I became a professional, like a full-time magician, like everyone would celebrate that and they'd be like, yeah, he did it. But actually people start talking to you less because they're like, fuck, that guy's fucking making money from magic. What the hell? Why aren't I doing that? And then they start to throw out little nitpicks at stuff you put out. And none of that, by the way, none of that happens to me now, but I'm not hanging out at the magic clubs and stuff.

I'm hanging out with my peers. like nick hey over here but it does happen and so the best thing is to just sort of cut out those people because they're just gonna keep doing it yeah or you know like i always try to lead with like those who hate need love the most man and you know i remember hanging out with teller and everyone was in the car and we're driving along and and i'm leaning i'm like oh by the way i get a text or whatever else i'm like hey man can can

you do friday at this venue and he's like yeah no worries cool man lock it in from like 7 till 10 and then Taylor turns to me and says like you give these guys work I'm like of course they're my boys and he was like I've never seen anywhere in the world that's like this in fact I had dinner with we had like a little breakup dinner with the guys in Victoria recently, and yeah I won't mention who said it that it was one of the guys who I'm very

close with and he turns to me and he says out of all the people that I work for in December I made the most money off the work you gave me And I paid him a lot. Like I threw him a lot of work. I'm talking thousands of dollars this month. And he goes, everyone I've invoiced, your invoice is the biggest. And that's because I care about my community and I care about my people. And again, I don't do it for any other reason that like it's the right thing to do.

And because this guy who works for me like has this beautiful life where he can support himself and his family and everything else, that's what it should be about. And I wish it was like that everywhere because I've been in situations in different countries where, you know, just rivaling magic clubs have been like trying to boycott. Don't go to this thing because they're putting on a show. Like, what are you talking about? There was one person in Melbourne who was like that.

They were saying things like, if you don't, if you stop hanging out with this magician, I'll give you gigs. They said that to me.

And I went, no. And you know what happened to that person? they don't exist anymore their agency their company their company, their shop all gone doesn't exist because that's what happens when you when you try to create a divide in the magic scene just not the way it should be done yeah crazy you know so for the last two to go as we wrap this up friends develop a practice regime i think that's important just to commit to a structured practice and for me when i was first getting into magic i

used to work my nine to five i would come home and i would unwind i would unwind with magic i would unwind by just with my cards i still take my cards on flights because i find it very relaxing and i'm not the best flyer but i don't know like to me it's not even an issue anymore with flying like i do it so often now it doesn't matter but like at first cards are just a beautiful relationship of relaxation and the beauty of that and i mentioned this a thousand times before

and i apologize for being repetitive but just when you have a relationship with magic that is relaxing when you perform it you don't stress it's what you do to relax so go out and relax and make people happy that's a really nice thing to do but not only magic friends don't practice just magic practice other things practice technique practice scripting practice your presentation practice how you speak.

Super important stay sharp and stay consistent that's why i try to read as much as i do when i first started doing vlogs 10 000 years ago it was because i wanted to be better speaking and addressing things to a camera and to people. I find myself when I speak and I'm about to fumble my words, I kind of syncopate where I'll say a word at a time, especially when I'm doing big words, you know, like look out for the hippopotamus.

Like I'll syncopate words in order to make it easier to come across with. But that's only through all the previous things that we've mentioned on this list that have allowed me to polish and perfect and to continually do that and stay consistent. Josh? Jeez, that was such a tangent. I think I've lost track of the original thought of that. Develop a practice regime, practicing scripting, technique, everything. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. It's so important. Otherwise you will forget things if

you think you just know how to do the routine. Like what people said. Like what people said. Yeah. And like, it's just so important.

Like I had not done like the homing card for a while and then I went to do it on stage without thinking of practicing it first and I like forgot to load cards in pockets and stuff like as part of the routine and then I'm like oh god damn it then I had to use other slides to get myself out of that situation when I could have just rehearsed and you know kept that kept it smooth and yeah I mean another thing I would add is like keep pushing yourself in magic to be doing stuff where you're a little

on edge when you're performing because it like keeps you in the moment. You definitely do want to be relaxed for the majority of your magic, like Nick's saying, because you want to not be stressing and sweating and stuff. But like, for me, at least, I like to have those moments in there that make me be in the moment because otherwise, if I don't figure out how to get to the end of this routine, it's not going to work.

And so it keeps me always like engaged and fresh in the moment and working it out. Because I've definitely, you know, friends of mine have told me stories of how they knew it was time to quit doing gigs because they would just be so autopilot that they know they're not giving what they need to, to the audience. Like they're thinking about what they're going to do once the gig's finished while they're in the middle of a routine, you know?

Yeah. And I think that one thing that I thought this would lead into, it would be that the consistency of practicing a routine is something that's kind of ideal for those learning mem deck.

A lot of people out there are saying oh i'm gonna learn mem deck this year i'm gonna learn a, a mnemonic a stack i'm gonna learn a stack i'm gonna learn a stack i i'm not nearly consistent enough to to learn stacks and never am i really in a position to actually do stuff with stacks if i'd be doing it i'd be doing it i'd be learning it so that i could do more like stage or parlor stuff but i do stuff that's like shuffle decks and random and resets immediately and so forth so.

But if I am going to do that stuff, I got to be consistent and I got to like practice it every day, you know, or every few days and when it truly sinks in, because I find myself doing it for like a month, doing it pretty well and then not doing it for a month. And then I forget how to walk. Like, I just don't remember anything. I don't do it enough. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, yeah.

So, you know, for those out there who are looking to include a stack in their new body of work you've got to develop a practice routine or a regime where you can actually just pound that into you i mean if i was if you're looking for something specific to that put a deck in stack grab a 10 and then right in the back of it one two three and then just do it 10 10 cards at a time, and then go you know and then absolutely and when you go to do gigs just have

two decks and just pull out the mem deck when you decide I'm going to do a mem deck sequence when it's not such a rowdy group. That's how I would do it. Like I would have two decks. One is the one I majority. Majority of the time would use, get it shuffled, you know, ambitious card, whatever, whatever, giving away cards, all that stuff.

And then I would have the other deck when it's like I'm seeing a group for the second time around, I'm going to just blow their mind with off, you know, hands off stuff.

That's what I used to do. and now it's reversed now i have two decks in stack and i do stack stuff because i've learned all these routines i can still do that all revolve around the deck staying in order and then eventually once it gets out of stack that becomes now the deck that's out of stack and that's fine and then i use the other one still when i'm roving around and, But whatever, like I'm totally happy to do magic with just a shuffle deck.

But if you are wanting to get into that stuff, just have two on you and just pull out the mem deck when you're wanting to do a mem deck thing. And it could just be as simple as spreading, they take one out and then you cut the deck and you know what card they've picked and you say, all right, keep the deck in your hand, the card in your hand, name a card that's not yours. And then, okay, so by association, you set a card that's going to be different.

So your card must be red if you said a black card divine their card that's an easy way to start using a membeck you know without any knuckle busting stuff yet it's all good fun.

Absolutely and the last thing i want to say before we wrap up this overtime episode that i hope you guys are getting some value of is to give back through magic and when i thought about what that actually means or what might mean to you guys is just quite literally just use your magic to bring people joy to make them smile erroneous to who they are you know whether they're just a person walking down the street a family member

it doesn't particularly matter but by all means like i've been spending a lot of time in hospitals lately and so i've showed a bit of love to nurses and stuff i've made mention in previous episodes but if there's an opportunity to perform for a hospital or charity or even opportunities to teach magic to aspiring magicians give back.

It fills your cup it does you know what you have is a gift gifted to people who deserve it and if you have the ability to make someone's day better you should do so, yeah and you never know what will come from that too like not that you should do it for any personal gain but the more people that know you do magic like just you know the more fun your life becomes like people like look forward to seeing you like the magic guys coming through the grocery store Or like that

store that I paid for something with my Ace of Spades card. Like now they remember me for that. And it's like now we chat more and stuff because we like broke the ice with magic. Scott Ling says, you work to make money. You do magic to make people happy. Absolutely. Yeah. The reason I charge for my magic is so that I can just continue to do magic.

Is that the right saying? The reason I... I think what I say is what I make is purely a side effect of me doing, sorry, the money I make is purely a side effect of being extremely good at what I love doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. The only reason I charge to do magic is so that I can continue to just only do magic. It's something like that. Anyway, it's like a, yeah, it's a by-product. It's so that it's necessary to live our lives, but it's not why we do it.

Give it away. Give it away. Give it away now. Give it away. Give it away now. I love it. So let's have a great 2025. Some of you shared your goals here in the SpeakPipe. So I look forward to following up and seeing how those went at the end of the year. You've heard us ramble on about our goals, you know, hold us accountable as well. And it's going to be a great year. Nick, anything else to add for our friends?

Well, as a new year begins and reflecting on the year past, thank you for all your support you guys have been giving us over the past year. We will do everything we can to endeavor to bring you guys value and make you guys smile. I wish you all a very happy, happy 2025 and look forward to all the fun that's going to be happening this year, friends. Thank you for your support. Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.

But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.