¶ The Concept of Grace Alone
When you hear people minimize grace , I think it's because they have no proper perspective of their depravity . It's a total misunderstanding of the nature of sin in the sight of a holy God .
When you grasp that which I praise God , the Lord has been using our ministry to help people grasp , as God gave Ray this message the understanding of the utter sinfulness of sin , the utter holiness of God . And when you take those two and you line them up side by side , man , god's grace shines .
Yeah , recently , here at Living Waters , we've been talking about what our next movie is going to be , because we love producing movies that inspire and equip Christians to fulfill the Great Commission . But , guys , I think I've got the answer for us . Let's hear it . I would love , love to collect a third being her .
Huh , a third being her . Was her by that point and be a bike race instead of a chariot race .
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From every house , all the house , random houses .
Because there has to be right . I mean there's got Ring riding behind his electric bike , crash in his bike , crashing , falling , assaulting people with his bike , just doing stuff , especially the Ring Doorbell footage from his neighbors , like across the way of all the stuff Ray does in his front yard .
I better make sure they don't have a Ring Doorbell .
I bet you they do Ray .
Side note , ray , did you hear that they're talking about creating another like re-prising been her ?
Already dead . No , no , here's a again Again .
Yeah , they want to call it been her him , been her him .
Been her , him , hershey , hershey , hershey .
Oh , that's that . Been they , been they , been they them .
Oh how sad . But Ray , what would ?
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would we see Ray in that footage ? Just a flash , have you falling Ray , do you pedal your bike anymore ? Sometimes he does it . You know why he does it To clear his conscience , so he can tell me oh yeah , he does one pedal just one , yeah , and the rest is electric . It's important to keep fit . Do you wear helmet ? Don't cause problems .
Ray Ray comfort Ray doesn't wear a helmet , say the word slowly and you'll see why . If there's anything , say the word slowly , slowly , no helmet . I don't anything to do with how I stay away from Okay .
Brain guard . Do you wear brain guards when you're on your bike ?
I don't need a break Ray . If there's anyone on earth who needs a helmet , Absolutely , and everyone around you , and near you .
This is quite possibly why the Lord made you so short .
I've gone off . I didn't f out of full .
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If you haven't listened to them , go back and check them out . These are vintage , but we didn't want to deprive you of them . So , without any further ado , here is Grace Alone .
Welcome back , guys , to part four of what is the Gospel . This transfers us into the sola portion of our series , grace Alone , and the next time Faith Alone , and I'm really excited about this . We have with us Easy Ray Comfort , mark Spence and myself , oscar Navarro .
So , to get us started , it just so happens to be about 500 years since Martin Luther penned his 95th thesis up on the wall , which was the accumulation of , or I should say , the beginning of , the Reformation , and at the core of the Reformation was grace alone and faith alone . Now many people would argue that grace alone is done and over with that .
It doesn't matter anymore that it was something to argue with the Catholic Church 500 years ago , but I think we would all agree that grace alone is still incredibly valuable , especially of understanding the gospel and what God has done for us . So , to start , the first question at the beginning how would you define grace ?
I like Sotheby L Ronning . I don't know about you guys , but I've been singing amazing grace for the last day or so , as I've been thinking about grace and studying it .
¶ The Concept of Grace in Christianity
A friend sent me a video just last night , maybe the night before , I can't remember exactly when it was and it doesn't matter , so it's ridiculous to even talk about it . Why are you talking about that ?
Anyway , it was a video and it was one of those courts those reality court shows where someone's in court facing a real judge and he called the video court grace or an example of grace in a court , and it was a real sweet lady . She was in like early 40s and she had got a stack of parking tickets . And the judge says you've got five parking tickets .
And she said I didn't know I had that many . And he said I don't care what you don't know . She said ignorance is no excuse . You've got these parking tickets $500 .
And she says , judge , she says my 17 year old son just died and I had to go and pay his $75 ticket when I was paying and I came out with a $100 ticket in my car and she said I don't know how I'm gonna get this 500 , I don't have $500 . And she burst into tears and wasn't crocodile tears , she was very genuine . It was very , very moving .
And the judge was very moved and compassionate . He says ma'am , what a horrible thing you've been through . He said I'm just dismissing this case . And I thought that's not an example of grace , that's mercy . That's mercy . He could have . Says lady , I'm sorry to hear about your son , it's really sad , but you've got five fines here . You can't go parking .
You're really so responsible . I'm teaching you a lesson . They went $500 . But he didn't . He was compassionate . Now , if he had said lady , you owe 500 , takes $500 , but you know what ? I'm gonna pay that fine myself and I'm gonna put $10,000 in your bank account , just so you're gonna have things easier in future .
That's grace , and there's such a difference and it gets mixed up by so many and we don't realize that we haven't had mercy , just mercy extended . We've got grace . We've not only had our fine paid for us , but we've got our eternity mapped out for us , more than $10,000 put in our account , and we've got pleasure for evermore , everlasting life .
And that's why grace is breathtaking and it's why I can't stop whistling amazing grace in the last few days .
I thank God for the Reformation . We're sitting here today by and large because of the Reformation , because men of God dared to stand up against the religious system of the time that loudly screamed no , it's not by grace alone . Obviously , it culminated with Martin Luther and those that surrounded him . But you think about that ?
How much has been elaborated on in terms of grace since that time ? And one of the most common definitions is grace is unmarried , unearned , undeserved favor , and oftentimes what's tagged on that is to the infinitely ill deserving . And oh man , how true that is .
I love what Paul said to Timothy , and second Timothy 2 , you therefore , my son , be strong in the grace as in Christ Jesus . And that's the reason again why we've seen the revival that's spread across the globe over the past 500 years , because men of God dared to be strong in the grace of God , and so I hope we continue that .
I'm sure Mark has more to add to that definition .
Well , yeah , I like what Sam Storms said in just referring to grace . He started off by saying God does not give his grace by calculated measure . Whatever grace is , need to find it properly right God's unmarried favor to the infinitely ill deserving . So God has his grace and he gives it and it just flows and it flows and it flows .
Matthew Henry said that you are at the nearest point of receiving God's grace , mercy and forgiveness when you begin to realize you cannot do anything correct , when you are at that place , I can't do anything right .
You're at that nearest point of actually receiving God's grace because it is unearned , it is unmerited , and God takes delight in giving his grace to people . So God does not give his grace by calculated measure .
And you're at the nearest point of receiving God's grace and we've defined it properly here just a moment ago at that moment when you begin to realize , man , I can't do anything right , I need help enter grace .
Amen , yeah , absolutely so . To summarize , grace is unmerited gift from God with no strings attached , and of course , we separate the difference between common grace and saving grace . Common grace is something that we all experience by breathing . You have common grace If you live .
You've been given the common grace of God , but saving grace is the work of Christ that is unmerited , undeserved and with no strings attached .
God's riches at Christ's expense Is that is that , dr Annalise Sound ? I've heard some people criticize it . I've always fallen back and I think , boy , that's a real good definition . Is agorism God's riches at Christ's expense ?
Absolutely , absolutely . That's great . I like this quote . Because of God's grace , you can have full and free forgiveness of every sin you've ever committed , without the fear of God shoving your failings back in your face again , and that is solely because of God's riches at Christ's expense .
Yeah , I also love the way it's been put that God paid a debt he did not owe . Because we owed a debt we could not pay and it required grace to atone for those sins that are beyond measure . And you know , I need to say this when you hear people minimize grace , I think it's because they have no proper perspective of their depravity .
It's a total misunderstanding of the nature of sin in the sight of a holy God .
When you grasp that which I praise God , the Lord has been using our ministry to help people grasp , as God gave Ray this message the understanding of the utter sinfulness of sin , the utter holiness of God , and when you take those two and you line them up side by side , man , god's grace shines .
Grace presupposes sin and guilt , and because we have sin and guilt , we need grace . Because there's no other way , we are relying upon God's grace .
So , with that in mind , what is grace alone , and why is that important to the gospel , to our message , to our evangelism ?
You know , in the 16th century the Roman Catholic Church taught , and still does today , grace , they teach grace , they teach faith and they teach because of Christ . We are relying also upon scripture and we want to bring glory to God . They taught that in the 16th century .
But as Eze was discussing earlier the Reformation , that came with the thrust of Martin Luther at the beginning , at the front there , nailing his 95 thesis to the door , he brought in a new ideology that the church was not expecting .
And as the church taught then , the Roman Catholic Church , that is grace , faith , scripture , christ and to the glory of God , alone , to the glory of God . They did not teach this , which was alone , alone . It is grace alone . Through faith alone , because of Christ alone . We stand on , scripture alone and this alone will bring glory to God alone .
So this is what the reformers had preached , this is what they had heralded and this is what we need to remember that it is all of these things faith alone , grace alone , christ alone , scripture alone , to the glory of God alone . And so our focus here today is the fourth battle cry of the Reformation Solagratia right .
So this is Solag , meaning alone Latin , for alone Gratia , grace in Latin . It is grace alone that is the focus .
Yeah , and understanding that salvation is monogistic . It's God who works it out from beginning to end . It's him who saves . And the problem with not just the Catholic Church but with cults and others is that they wanna mix something in with grace and honestly , I'm baffled by that .
Like when I study scripture , when I look at the plain texts God has given us in His word , I'm absolutely , utterly baffled by the fact that anyone would argue against this doctrine . And if you're gonna err in terms of maybe misunderstanding something , why would you not wanna err on giving God all the credit , all the glory ?
Why would you ever want to , for a second , even insert yourself Again ? It's a blindness to our own depravity and sinfulness to think we can contribute anything to our redemption . It's a total misunderstanding of the entire tenor of scripture as far as what salvation is all about .
Well , I think you put your finger on it when you said blindness , because I remember talking to Mormons once . They were saying you've got to , you know . Add to it . I read Ephesians 2 , 8 , 9 , for , by grace , you say faith , and that not of yourselves . The gift , god , not of works , and it went over his head .
I could see it was like he glazed as I shared it with him . So it's a blindness and that's why it's so essential . You ask why it's important ? So , essentially , use the law .
Because we get antinomianism abounding throughout contemporary Christianity , people who think they can live lawless because they don't understand how much we've sinned against God , how holy God is . That salvation is beyond our reach , it's infinitely beyond , and all we can do is call upon God's grace to save us .
You know easy . I'd love it if you could just pause for a moment and you can discuss how you've used this Ephesians 2 , 8 text when dealing with Mormons .
Yeah , and that's another testimony , I think , to the extensiveness of people's blindness . But a number of years ago I was sharing the gospel with a couple Mormon missionaries and all was sunshine and sweetness until I brought up Ephesians 2 , 8 , 9 . And what I did was I opened my Bible and I said let me ask you what you think of this verse .
And I held my Bible out and I began to read and I said for by works have you been saved , through great efforts and that completely of yourselves . It is your paycheck from God as a result of your labor , giving you reason to boast . And he looked at me and he goes yeah , that sounds right .
I mean , I was shocked because I was expecting him to go come on , that's not what it . He goes yeah , that sounds right . And I was stunned for a second and I go actually , it says the exact opposite .
But because of the watering down of God's word , because of the twisting of scripture , something that is the exact opposite of what scripture actually says sounds to you like it's the truth . And yeah , the sunshine and sweetness quickly went out . The way . I got pretty upset .
That is brilliant , easy . That is an absolute , brilliant way to be harmless as a devil and as wise as a serpent . I like what James White says . He says the issue has never been the necessity of grace , it has always been the sufficiency of grace . Is God's grace enough and is it alone ?
Yeah , you know you brought up antinomianism , and it reminds me of that balance which CS Lewis once said in regards to heresy , that there's always two heretical positions and the devil tries to get you to lean so far away from one that you fall into another .
So when we talk about antinomianism , you also have to talk about legalism , and when we talk about grace , it's the perfect balance between the two .
Yeah , so should we define antinomianism ? For someone who's like me and wonders what it is , it's living a life of lawlessness , no regard to God's holiness , or living holy not to attain salvation , but because we're commanded to , and out of gratitude to God .
You know , oscar , I just wanna say something quickly on the balance of it all , since you mentioned the word balance . I think oftentimes people forget how clear God's word is on how God's people are to live , those that have been saved by grace .
You think about what it says in Titus , for the grace of God has appeared to all men , teaching us that , denying ungodliness and all worldly lust , we should live soberly , righteously and godliness present age . So scripture is clear what the grace of God does ? It teaches us to deny ungodliness and all worldly lust .
The grace of God doesn't lead to , as Ray mentioned , antinomianism or living a life of licentiousness . But there's also the balance of the whole grace and works issue , because I think those words good works , have become by words , unfortunately because of the fact that they've been twisted .
So the church now kind of bristles when they're heard , like as if , though they're unscriptural . But God's word gives us the perfect balance . I mean , think about it . We just quoted Ephesians 2 , 8 , 9 , for by grace you've been saved through faith . That not of yourselves , it's a gift of God , not of works . Us anyone should boast . What about verse 10 ?
For we are his workmanship , created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them . He just totally made it clear it's not of ourselves , it's a total gift , but we're his workmanship , created in Christ Jesus for good works .
You think of Titus 3 , 3 through 8 , says for we ourselves were also once foolish , disobedient , deceived , serving various less than pleasures , living in malice and envy , hateful and hating one another .
But when the kindness and the love of God , our Savior , toward man appeared , not by works of righteousness , which we have done , but according to his mercy , he saved us through the washing of regeneration
¶ The Relationship Between Grace and Works
and renewing of the Holy Spirit , whom he poured on us abundantly through Jesus Christ , our Savior . Having it justified by his grace , we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life .
And then he says this this is a faithful saying and these are things I want you to affirm constantly that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works . He just said not by works of righteousness we have done .
Then he says I want you to exhort them in this that they should be careful to maintain good works , why these things are good and profitable to men . Those two passages , I think , strike the perfect chord of how grace and works , work together . We're saved , totally independent of our works . But if we're saved then naturally we should be producing good works .
And they should be seen like light coming out of a flashlight . You know there is batteries in the flashlight . When light comes out , we know we're generated by the Holy Spirit when they can see our good works and glorify our Father who's in heaven and that leads into our next question .
Well , shall I ask it , and I'm gonna add to what you're saying is grace able to save or is it merely a help ? What other things do we see added to grace ?
And so here's where I think you put it so well by reading those verses which is works is a response to grace , not in addition to grace , so that when you hear a pastor say Bible before breakfast , or when we talk about repentance , or when we talk about the Great Commission , yeah , we are giving good advice , we are not adding to grace .
That is good advice . That's not the gospel , it's good advice . Yet if grace has truly taken effect , that's the natural response . Good works is a response to grace , not in addition to grace .
And we get accused so often . When you begin to use grace the way we're talking about , when we begin to preach grace exactly the way we're talking about , we have people say , oh great , now you can do whatever you wanna do .
And that's why that was so important , Izzy , that you went over those texts , because grace actually teaches us to deny ungodliness and to live sober and righteous . In this present age . That is so key . People must listen , they must hear that aspect of it . I'm really glad that you touched upon that .
Let me say this that we must affirm to the fact that grace actually saves . We have to . If you don't come to that conclusion that grace saves , well then you are believing another gospel . We have to come to that as our foundation . So it's grace alone means grace at the start , all the way until the end .
There's grace in the middle , grace without fail , grace without mixture , grace without addition , grace that allows no boasting and grace that stops all glorying , but in the Lord , it stops every minute . Grace is going to stop every mouth and come to the conclusion Wow , is God , because I can't do anything .
He has to do it all and if there's anything I can do to it , well then you changed the definition of grace , just like the Colts .
And it's further what you're saying about grace being the beginning and end of it all . It was really grace that brought the law in its hand and applied it to our conscience through the fullness of preaching . John Newton says "'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear , and grace my fears relieved" .
And I think there's confusion when it comes to the function of God's law , in the sense the law came by Moses , but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ . That word but isn't in the original , it wasn't there in the Greek . It's just as the law came by Moses , grace came by Jesus . It's not a negative thing , the law .
It's a positive thing because what it does is it shows us our need of God's grace . It makes us hunger and thirst after righteousness .
And you know , Paul clearly gave us this unveiling of what it all means in Romans 11 , 6 . He said , listen , and if by grace , then it is no longer of works . Otherwise , grace is no longer grace . And if it is of works , it is no longer of grace . Otherwise , work is no longer work .
This is the clear passage on the fact that you can't intermingle the two . If it's of one , it's impossible that it's of the other .
So this is probably an example of mercy rather than grace , but it kind of goes hand in hand . Once I shared an illustration with a group . I was teaching about evangelism and I wanted to just say how much we appreciate God's mercy and grace . And I said look at this , a condemned criminal . He's gonna be hung in two weeks .
And he hears from the governor that he's had his sentence commuted . He's gonna be bursting with sheer joy .
But if the priest comes and takes a criminal right up to the gallows and he puts a hood over his head , he puts the rope around his neck , he hears the creek draw a trap beneath him sorry , the trapdoor creek beneath him and his heart beats within his chest . And then he hears a pardoness come from the governor . I said he is the one who collapses .
And sheer joy . And someone called out he just hung himself because he had a rough breath as the neck collapsed . But it's such an illustration of the more the law is applied to the conscience . The more we tremble , the more we like Felix who trembled , the more we're gonna appreciate God's grace .
And this is why race , a lot of times living waters gets misunderstood . We have hell's best kept secret . Where's heaven's best kept secret ? And I think that what people are misunderstanding and what they're missing is , a lot of times , grace is not missing .
Maybe this true biblical definition of grace is missing , but grace is not missing , by and large , from the pulpits . So we use the law of God to bring the knowledge of sin and we need to warn people to stop using life enhancement as a draw card for salvation .
And because we're given such a short amount of time in certain venues churches and conferences we hone in on these aspects and we get people that come up against us and say , come on , how about a balance ? Well , you don't need a balance , we don't need to go off on God's grace .
Once people recognize what a depraved individual they are , the moment you bring in the answer , bring in the solution and the cure , they grasp for it , they reach out to it and they are so thankful for it . And that's exactly what you're addressing here , boy .
We love God's grace , we love mercy , we love forgiveness , but I think that our church , when people have to our ministry , what people need to recognize is that these things , by and large , are not missing .
It's the law being heralded that is missing , and sometimes people don't hear that other side and they begin to think no , it's all about the law , it's all about the law . Well then , you're missing the point of the law . The law is to drive a sinner down on his face , to cry out to God , to say have mercy on me .
So then , when grace comes in , it brings a hidden smile of God above the dark cloud inside someone's life , which is all they've done their whole life is eat , drink and slept in equity . We have to get to grace . We have a love for God's grace .
The law tells us what we ought to do . The gospel grace tells us what God has done . The law shows us that we need to be forgiven . The gospel announces , proclaims , heralds that we've been forgiven .
While the law paves the way for the gospel , it paves the way by revealing our plight and the gospel proclaims the good news to those who are struck down by the law . Right , and that's the balance between the two .
Absolutely yeah . And you know , mark mentioned earlier the danger of man's boast before God . And Paul made it clear in Romans 4 , he said what then shall we say that Abraham , our father , has found according to the flesh ? For if Abraham was justified by works , he has something to boast about .
Right , he said , look , if it's by his works and he can boast , I did it , but not before God . For what does the scripture say ? Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness . Now , to him who works , the wages are not counted as grace but as debt .
But to him who does not work but believes on him , who justifies the ungodly , his faith is accounted for righteousness . And that's really what it comes down to , right ? I mean , that was at the heart of the Reformation the just shall live by faith , right and receiving that imputed righteousness of Christ .
Because , apart from his perfect righteousness , we're doomed before a holy God , and people underestimate that . You know we look at sin in its extreme form by our perspective , but a man and a woman ate a piece of fruit in a garden thousands of years ago , and here we are today .
Sin is atrocious in the sight of God , not so much in its expression per se , but at its root rebellion against him .
Let me ask this then what is the difference between the cult's view of grace and biblical , historical Christianity's view of grace ?
You know , it's been said that religion is man's attempt to get to God . Christianity was God's attempt to get to man and it worked right . Christianity stands alone as the only true religion because it is the only religion that offers true grace to its adherents , to its followers , to people who don't deserve it .
So salvation is not the result of anything that we do . I like this quote that I read earlier , and it was God offers grace as a free gift . It's not a free opportunity to work hard for our salvation , but a true free gift that needs no additional contribution on our part .
So the distinction's critical and it separates cults such as Mormonism or Jehovah's Witness from Christianity not as separate denominations but as a completely separate notion about the nature and the saving work of Christ .
Yeah , absolutely , mark Welput . And the big difference was addressed earlier , I think , and that is that the cults don't necessarily deny grace , they add to it , and in so doing they're really altering the nature of grace , and so there's always a mixture . You talk to any Jehovah's Witness , mormon , so forth .
They're gonna say to you , oh no , we're saved by grace . But then they're gonna go to there , right , like Mormonism , you're saved by grace after all that you can do .
And so no , the scriptural , biblical , historical Christianity perspective of grace is that you are saved by grace , despite anything you ever could even attempt to do , because there's nothing you can do .
¶ Importance of Grace, Rejection
You're so far removed from a holy God that only he alone can save you , because you're not someone that has a spark of life in you and can somehow regenerate yourself . You are dead , and a dead person can only be made alive if they're quickened by an external being .
And that's why I don't like arguing doctrines with cults , because there's so many manifold different doctrines and different definitions in a different Jesus , a different grace , and they've got a Bible and they believe this and that and they believe in faith , et cetera . It's so important to show them how to pray .
They are and use the Lord to bring the knowledges in and put them up the river Niagara without a paddle , remove from the false hope , so they'll trust in the true Christ and the true grace of God .
Now I think also grace is important , not just when we're talking about the cults or misunderstanding of the gospel or legalism . I think the non-religious are dying for grace as well , not only first and foremost I should say not only , but first and foremost from the law of God , but in addition to that from the law of man .
I mean , I think about the woman walking down Madison Avenue and all of the man-made laws that are being pushed upon her ashes , just simply walking down the street . Thou shalt be skinny , thou shalt be successful , thou shalt be independent , thou shalt be self-actualized To the men , thou shalt be financially wealthy , a woman , conqueror , strong . Look a certain way .
All these things are laws given to us by man and we have this desire to self-authenticate our own selves by these laws . Right and in a certain way , everybody loves the law , because law promises us agency . It puts the keys to our wellbeing in our own hands . If I can just do X , y or Z , then I get the results that I want .
If I can just be a kind of person , project certain qualities publicly , then I'll be loved . People who are addicted to control are addicted to the law , and we're all addicted to control . So the irony of our lives is that our desire to be in control almost always ends up controlling us .
You might say that our relationship to the law is a fatal attraction and it controls our behavior . And then in walks , grace , where God says you don't have to be skinny or attractive or you don't have to be controlled by the expectations of your society . So when we talk about grace , we shouldn't just talk about it when it comes to the cults .
We should talk about it to any person walking down the streets that's never read a Bible , that doesn't understand the cults . There's an element of grace that's for them as well .
It's interesting . I asked what you've bought out because it reminded me my own experience that every Saturday night I'd go out and buy a bottle of booze and drink it . My friends would drink beer and have six , drinks Six drinks .
No , this is a little time longer than that , so like that's like a couple months ago .
Anyway , I was in the early 20s before I got saved and every Saturday night we'd do that and we'd go and have a good time . And I got saved and I thought I don't have to do that anymore . It was just like a stupid conformity that we all were subject to a peer pressure . We didn't know where it came from .
But this is what you do you get drunk , you have a good time , you're trying to conquer , blah , blah , blah , and you come home and you feel sick the next day and it was like being set free by the grace of God .
Yeah , I remember that too , that sort of clear moment when it's all about freedom in Christ . I don't have to do that anymore and I love what you said , oscar , and it goes even beyond . You don't have to be skinny or attractive or successful , it's spiritually speaking . You're ugly and a failure and totally bankrupt , and I'm gonna save you .
Oh accepted in the beloved .
Totally . It's seeing yourself in that true light of God's law . And then God says and I'm going to save you .
Yeah .
And I know it's just unreal .
It's an eternal wall .
If Christ is our champion , then his victory is our victory . We know we look like a bunch of losers and we know we've contributed nothing to the victory . Nonetheless , we seem like we've won because in Jesus we've won .
Yeah , you know this is probably not gonna go anywhere . I heard in a survey done in England many years ago that 50% of English people thought amazing grace was a woman named Grace . It was quite amazing and I'm not kidding . Yeah , they just totally destitute of any understanding and probably the United States isn't too far beyond that .
Well , obviously , you know , europe has strayed very far from its roots . We were there , we saw what's going on and you come across people that don't know who Spurgeon is , don't know who Whitfield is , just totally clueless .
You know , I may have shared before , I don't remember , but I witnessed a guy in an airport whose name was George Whitfield and when he told me his name I laughed and he didn't show any response or expression . I go here , joke and he goes . No , my name is George Whitfield Was that in Australia ?
No , that's in .
Australia .
No , that was in .
Europe , you're using Europe .
It was in England . I go yeah , you haven't heard of George Whitfield , and he goes . No , this guy's like in his 80s and you think how could he not have ?
heard Whitfield .
Yeah , someone could have mentioned to him that you're named after George Whitfield and so , anyway , it just shows how far Europe has gone from grace . And you're right , we're on our way .
It didn't sound like you had a booming voice . The guy that you met must be different genes . My name is George Whitfield .
All right , you're not him .
So the next question , which we've already kind of touched on this why do you , so many groups , reject this important doctrine of grace ?
alone . I think the pride of man is at the heart of it , and Satan's lies and deceptions , of course , anything to twist the truth of God , and it feeds our ego , doesn't it ?
When we think we can contribute something to our salvation , and it's amazing how many people I've heard say I have to do it on my own , I need to save myself , I need to , and it's such a again ignorance when it comes to how sinful we are and how impossible it is .
But I think the pride of man and yeah , that's why you need to hang someone out of a plane by their ankle , so if they really think they can save themselves from gravity , you know ?
God does not display and exert grace towards sinful humans because he sees something lovely in them , but rather because he is love . Because he is love , he acts according to his nature . You know , we must never make the mistake of thinking that somehow God is obligated to give grace to anybody . The only obligation that God has is to act according to his nature .
God is merciful as he sees fit and God has a long fuse when it comes to his mercy and he has a long fuse when it comes to grace . He has a long fuse when it comes to extending
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a hand to humanity . But we must not mistake that long fuse , as that fuse will always exist . God has common grace for people , he has a saving grace for people and we think , well , because that grace is available , it will always be there , even perhaps , as some people believe , after I die and I can have a second chance , because God is love .
That grace will always be available , even after I die and I'm in the grave and I'm rotting . No , the only obligation that God has is to act consistent within his nature . He gives according to his nature and it is absolutely appalling to us to think that it will always be available to sinful humanity .
No , god does whatever he wants to do , whenever he wants to do it , to whomever he wants to do it , and he answers to nobody . And now that ushers in the word sovereignty . God sovereignly saves those whom he desires to save and he uses the measure , the means of grace , to do so .
Hmm that's great . Why does Solagradia make the gospel good news ?
Because there's no guesswork , because there's no room for probability . It's certain . The work is done . Christ has paid for the sins of sinners and he has cried out that famous cry .
It is finished and for me , as a Christian who sins and continues to fail , my only anchor is the grace of God , knowing that the grace of God is inseparable it's inseparable from the gospel , and there's no longer that fear . Oh , maybe today I'm gonna be cast into hell .
I talked to someone just yesterday who's in torments because they continue to fail and sin and struggle and they've come across some bad teaching on YouTube . What a dangerous , dangerous minefield it is , especially when someone is weak and struggling .
They go on there and they hear these heretical people that have no understanding of the doctrine of salvation and grace , and I had to help walk him through that and explain to him that it's not based on him keeping the law . Christ lived the perfect life , as we've talked on other segments . He fulfilled the law in our place .
He's a propitiation for our sins and by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified .
And this is the value of the gospel in our lives is that the gospel and grace is not the door that opens to Christianity . It is every part of our faith , from the first day we are saved until the very last . It is about grace .
And it's a rest we enter into , it's a relief . We don't have to strive to do anything , it's just a rest in Christ , but incredible news .
This kind of grace , this kind of love which , by its very definition , is divine . It seeks out the unlovable before they are found . It satisfies rather than introduces expectations , and that's important to remember . What happens when man rejects this ? This is our last question what happens when man rejects grace alone ? He gets justice .
He gets law , he gets a wrath . What a fearful thing .
Well , what happens then is they become anathema . And I know those words are strong , but they're not my words , right ? What did Paul say in Galatians one ? I marvel that you're turning away so soon from him , who called you , in the grace of Christ , to a different gospel .
And then he goes on and he says listen , if anyone preaches to you a gospel contrary to that which we preach to you or contrary to that which you've received , let him be accursed , anathema . And those are strong words . Paul says listen , even if we ourselves come back and do it , if an angel from heaven does it .
And he's affirming that the gospel which was originally preached as a true gospel 1 Corinthians 15 , one through three , paul makes clear what the gospel is the death , burial , resurrection of Christ . And then he says this by which you are saved , what's Ephesians tell us for by grace you've been saved through faith and out of yourselves .
When you deny so la grata , you're denying the gospel , which means that you're accursed , and you're going to then have to stand before God holding up your filthy works , right Like filthy rags , trying to say to him God , look what I did , save me . What a terrifying thought . What a reproach that is on the work of Christ on the cross .
There's something horrible about hearing anybody boast , isn't it ? As a Christian , I sometimes see comments on my Facebook page or an atheist will say look , I'm as good as any Christian . I do this , this , and it's nauseating , you know , when we think what salvation is by grace , through faith .
So it's a horrible thing when any criminal stands before a judge condemned and yet continues to hold on to his self-righteousness .
Yeah . And Paul said look , what do you have that you didn't receive ? And if you did receive it , why do you act as though you didn't ? You know , everything we have is a gift from the Lord . His grace extends in so many ways and more than just a salvific sense , and you talked about the common grace but even Salvific oh yeah salvific Salvific whoa .
You know even God's abounding grace toward us as his children , beyond just the common grace , the grace benefits that are a part of our salvation are innumerable , and everything comes from the Lord . There's no room for boasting . Amen , amen , amen , amen . Amen .
Amen .
Yeah . To kind of close this out and to reiterate what you guys are saying , in a life that's governed by the law , like your friend , the fear of defeat and the threat of hell looms over every endeavor , everything that you do . Yeah , in a life governed by the gospel , governed by grace , nothing that needs to be done hasn't already been done .
And to bring it full circle back to Martin Luther , one of the very first and memorable expressions of his great discovery came in his 26th thesis , in which he wrote the law says do this , and it is never done . Grace says believe in this and everything is already done .
And those words remove the pressure of self-justification and it's replaced with freedom , the freedom to die and yet live , to fail and yet succeed , the freedom to love , to serve , to wait , to laugh , to cry and to glorify our God in heaven . Amen , amen . Thank you guys so much for joining us again . I hope this has been a blessing to our partners .
I wanted to also mention , if there's ever any questions that come up I'm thinking maybe at the end of this eighth one , on a ninth one or maybe an additional CD we can kind of do questions that came in .
So , with that said , I wanna say , if you guys have any questions at all , you can email me directly , onovaro at livingwaterscom , and if we get a chance , we would love to be able to address any questions that come up . Can't promise anything , but if we have time maybe we can do something like that .
May the Lord bless you guys and use this time to edify you and to provide a more clear and better understanding of the good nudes of God's amazing grace . And until next time and I'll see you guys next time .
Bye , Mark , you love this subject . The grace of God . If , seriously , of all the friends I know , you're one who's close to the top of the list , that just really values God's grace .
I heard a preacher once say if you fully understand the grace of God , then you haven't fully experienced and receive the grace of God . Right , the grace of God ? That only box that it fits in is that separate box , because it's all together different . It's all together separate from the world and from every other religion and worldview that is out there .
God's unmerited favor to the infinitely ill deserving . Yeah , if you're gonna major in a subject , how about major in the study of God's grace and be quick to give grace to other people . We love to receive grace , sell them like to give it to other people , and we talk about salvific grace , god's grace on how we get saved .
Man , let that become your best friend in life to understand that and give that to other people .
Yeah , amen Ray . Why don't you name my wife Rachel Grace ?
We're gonna call her a Talitha .
Talitha Kumi .
Yeah , from the book of Acts . Well , I did because I thought of Rachel sounds better .
Talitha .
I named my youngest evangel in Grace Navarro .
Oh yeah , I haven't done any eating grace . I haven't .
Kylie Grace what we all three seriously have middle name Grace Because we love Grace , right yeah .
I got a kid named Proverbs .
Proverbs , first name , Proverbs and middle name , the whole book of All right friends . There you have it . That's what the grace of God is all about . God has a wonderful land for your life Living Waters , Mug , the Heaven to Study Bible , all livingwaterscom .
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