¶ Inventions, Ideas, and Musings
Now here's what's interesting , and as I was doing some research and again Emilio Ramos sent me some things , but you guys , you hear the name Tesla and people immediately just sink the car . But they don't realize that Tesla is the name of a person , right ? Yes , nikola Tesla , who was a huge inventor . Listen to what he said .
This is what he said back in his time . This was , i believe . Well , he was born in 1956 , so this was like probably late 1800s . That I I purpose to show that , however impossible it may now seem , an automaton and I say that word automaton may be contrived which will have its own mind Tesla wrote in June 1900 . Yeah , it was 1900 .
And by this I mean that it will be able , independent of any operator , left entirely to itself , to perform , in response to external influences affecting its sensitive organs , a great variety of acts and operations , as if it had intelligence . This is 1900 . Wow , that's just crazy .
He's an amazing guy here at Tesla .
Yeah , And so there's a lot that people are saying and some are saying you know , this is kind of like a modern day , where we're at right now modern day , tower of Babel , you know , where man is in essence trying to become God , And as much has been said about that , you know I think that's what Elon Musk was talking about that Larry Page wants to do .
He wants to create basically his own God . I had a brilliant idea the other day Oh you're going to retire , which is nothing new for me . This could really change the world .
I am today , friends on the Living Waters podcast , giving my idea away , and I know for certain that someone somewhere around the world is going to take it and become a multi-quadrilinear because of it , and I will not get one penny from it . But I'm nice and selfless like that . Okay , you guys ready .
Yeah , okay , you have a signal that indicates you're going right in your car . You do it the other way and indicates you're going left . My invention is a U-turn signal . Come on .
Come on , what do you mean ? U-turn signal ? What do you mean It's illegal to U-turn most places .
No , it's not illegal . Why is that needed ? Because You want to tell people you turn U-turn ? Yeah , Because when someone is turning , making a U-turn , you don't know if they're going first of all , if you're behind them , you don't know if you're going to be able to go straight or you got to wait for them .
And if you're coming their way , you don't know if they're going to go that way or if they're going left .
How about ? a signal that I think about How , about a signal that says I'm going to abuse you any second ? The ?
horn . No , seriously , i thought of that Horns , that like say stuff , get out of the way Right at the same time , yeah , but it did sound good , though , in my head .
Do you ever try to like friendly ? It's your friendly beep .
Meep .
Long meep , i'm serious . No , it's like beep , like a quick week . Yeah , what about a beep ? beep , is that friendly ?
No , i know if you do too many , you get shot . I mean a long one is clearly .
We all agree a long horn is just rude , takes yeah , yeah , yeah , you know what ?
you guys know what the uniqueness of the US is . Honestly , is we hardly hear honking . No , you go to . You go to a lot of New York .
You hear all the time .
No , but places like Lebanon , every and Lebanon . I remember when I went to Lebanon back in 1993 , back for the first time after I came to the US 36 am excited cuz camels never had a one . That's the root . No , but every time right before they right before they turn a corner , they , they honk their horn .
That might save lives actually honking seriously , here I come , it drove .
It drives me crazy . I hate hearing .
I get . The joke drives you crazy .
Yeah , get it .
I think that a double meep , quick meep , is friendly .
Just the guy invented eight horns that you can actually choose which one angry nice .
Are you serious ?
Yeah , it's a really good idea . I saw him , is that ?
legal , though I wonder if horns are Regulated like it has to be certain say yeah cuz . I mean it can't be like . Yeah , well , i remember we had a neighbor in Westminster . You had a la cuca racha .
They were quite popular back in the 80s what ?
Yeah , yeah , I think they had them in .
New Zealand ? No , why is the late 80s ? I came over here .
But that would be really cool If there were horns with like things that you could say , or like what mark had back in the day we've got a , we don't need to bring that up , yeah .
I'm not exactly the BC days , but boy , that was fun . Where we had our buddy , robbie Douglas , had set up a little CBA , yeah , an outside PA where I can talk to people from inside my Car and I remember being in your car when you did .
That was so much fun It was really great .
I got it to preach the gospel on the cliffs over there in South Orange County where they can't come and get you . Yeah , they're down on the beach But I'd get people to pull over . I'd go and people pull over and I just go Is it , it's illegal , right , totally skydiving technically .
I mean , if you want to bring the law into a chair , if you're into that sort of thing .
yeah , i'm more into the gospel , seriously though , like inventions , someone gets an idea , and I had this idea of a phone .
But like the , the front of it was like a , like a screen that you can touch it with your finger , manipulate it like you can search the web with .
I mean , if someone is seriously back when we were in the 80s , if someone showed you this we like today . You know kids see the road or phones . Yeah , a cell phone . I know it's like it , like anyone could see it . But right , kids are shown rotary phones today . They , seriously some of them , have no idea what it is .
I have no idea what they're doing , but if you saw this in the 80s , would you guess it's a phone by by any no , it's shape , It's a stupid shape , but we're so conditioned now . It's , it's , there's . What do you mean ? a phone There's no .
Buttons There's no you know I'm an invention . The idea is it's no problem , have a good idea . It's putting it into practice and you're getting it out there and yeah , patterns and lawyers and Ray , what about your ?
what about your box holder on it that someone wears on there on their on the belt ?
Yeah , i had a great idea . It's well , you've got a buckle but it bends down like an angle the right angle where you could . If you're carrying a box , you lift the box up onto that belt buckle so it takes the weight , pulls your spine So it becomes upright , so you don't get injured lifting heavy things .
So the the belt buckle which Folds down takes the weight . I looked into it . It was just so much trouble getting a patent . We're ready that .
I thought you stopped it because it was already taken .
That's a really good idea , Oh no , it's just , I mean I would sell it to UPS , or because when I when I carry a box .
If I'm carrying something really heavy , i will use my belt . Yeah , you know , just to stabilize it .
Yeah , you should look at that right . When you're carrying a box , never use your legs , always use your back .
Thank you . Yeah , i pick it up with my back , but , ray , what I'm , what I'm really happy about is , like you've never thought about inventing a floating arrow like up in the air over .
Something huge that was like two years ago , no .
Ten years ago more than that . It was a 30 foot red arrow that I filled it with helium . We had about five of us working on six . I was trying to get up in there , floated above a car yard , so the arrow pointed down and you couldn't see it being held because it was Fishing tackle .
It was holding it what I can't believe is that that car dealership actually let us do it .
Yeah , but I look great and he's and I went for a drive , had lunch , came back and it looked like a Marlon being pulled in . It was just so . The wind was blowing everywhere .
But seriously , when it wasn't windy , it looked to me . It looked like there was just a giant arrow floating above the dealership pointing to it . You know , it was really cool .
But I I just haven't had time , but it'd be great to invent something like that for Walmart , where they have these little specials . It's a three-foot arrow That's on a very , almost invisible little thing , so there's an arrow pointing down to a special . Yeah , but I haven't got time to do junk like that .
Forget that . Yeah , gospel , gotta preach the gospel .
That's exactly it .
Yeah , but you know , think of that like the guy who invented the windshield wiper I think there was a movie about it .
Oh , really , yeah , some years ago wiped out The guy who invented the hot pocket . Oh Yeah , nice house in Newport Beach Really . you know , i'm not , i don't know him , but I know his house , or ?
like the house shape like a great .
I heard the guy that invented the little , the cat's eyes , a calm for the little .
Hold the emake . He gets money for every single one , yeah , amazing . Get the cats to stay on the road .
Imagine they like to invent a fire alarm , a smoke detector , that was also a clock .
I forgot about , so that when the clock . Yeah , i looked into that . This is about 20 years ago . A smoke detector clock , that's right . I looked into that because everyone has a clock , but not everyone has a smoke detector . So if you have a clock , that's a smoke detector at the same time , it could save lives .
I don't know why I gave up on that , probably because we're doing great , you should have a time to save lives .
Yeah , that's it .
I created it . I've made 20 million dollars . She don't ran with it , it's a great idea .
Law suit great . You should invent the phoneless cord .
Yes , that's right .
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¶ AI's Impact and Need for Regulation
Oscar on a recent podcast . There may be Mark , i don't know , but we're talking about time travel If it's time .
smart , it was me .
We're joking about time travel . All right , you hear time travel and you go . okay , whatever , like never , ever , of course , Except for teleportation . I do believe that will one day happen to be me up Scotty technology . But what are you guys doing ? Hey , look , there's a man attached to the vibe .
So listener , for those of you who can't see which is all of you , mark Spence pulled up a picture of easy in a French outfit with his eyes bulging out of his head .
I was 20 , no , a man , 19 . I was 19 or 20 . right there There's a man attached to those eyeballs . I know I can't believe it , anyways . So yeah , like time travel , you hear that You don't pay attention to that .
There is time travel . God travels through time . Yeah .
Okay , okay .
I can get in this whole thing about time travel actually .
Yeah , okay , whatever , so anyway , but you write it off . Okay , AI that's exactly what I would have done at one point in time . And space , like yeah , right , okay , machines that think for themselves and that may guys . This is what's freaking me out . The guys who invented AI are freaking out . Jeffrey Hinton Yeah , elon Musk was a big part of the chat .
Gpt Was he GTP ? GPT Yeah , and he's Mark . This is serious , yeah .
Elon Musk was asked the question is there anything that you're afraid of ? And he said AI , Yeah .
And he said he went on to say He's been a massive advocate for AI , though .
Well , yeah , that's why he was saying chat GPT , he's trying to get ahead of the game . He's all I'm trying to He wants to come up with a third option he said Which is I don't know .
But he just said the way it's going , without any controls on it , it's freaking him out , i mean- . Yeah , that's what they're all saying .
Okay , jeffrey Hinton , same thing . He was a big wig in Google . Many people call him the godfather of AI . Yeah , that's right . He quit Google so that he can start being an outspoken advocate for regulation on artificial intelligence .
And one of his big arguments is in the past , the entire world came together and decided that we were going to regulate the atom bomb , and that was good , because it would have gotten completely out of control .
And he said that's essentially what needs to happen at this point , because if the US just lays down regulations for AI , that doesn't stop some company in China from continuing to modify and increase its productivity of artificial intelligence .
And so he's advocating for a global sort of summit where the nations come together and we create a regulatory body that will put parameters , limitations , around the capabilities of artificial intelligence .
So I'm not saying I'm wrong , but AI isn't a problem . It's people that are a problem . It's abusing it . It's like the invention of- . The invention of- . Well , it's only what gets programmed into it that you can't- . Well , no , but that's the thing , ray . Well , let me finish the analogy .
It's like the invention of dynamite It was invented for a good purpose , for mining , but people blow up people with dynamite .
The difference here . dynamite cannot be used unless somebody lights the fuse .
AI can light its own fuse , see that's the thing , ray , that the thing that's freaking people out is once it's And it has been unleashed . I mean , many are saying there is no turning back , in a sense or maybe it's more so that if we don't get it under control real quick , there won't be .
But the thing is is that the concern is that it can begin to then do its own thing and you can't control it . What they're saying is it will exceed human intelligence , human capabilities , but that's easy , depending on the human right . It's only a matter of time . So let's not get too far ahead of ourselves Before we get into like apocalyptic doomsday theory .
We should talk about how it's affecting our culture today and how the Christians should cautiously interact with the possibilities of AI , because I think that would be really helpful . I've been using it for months .
Yeah , i find it incredible , but I- .
I have yet last night because I'm like , okay , we're going to be talking about this And my kids have talked about it . Mark , you've done a bunch of things on it And I'm like , all right . I told my son , hey , get me on this , i can't figure it out . So he started it . We couldn't get on . But you've used chat GPT For months . Seriously , yeah .
I've used it for this podcast . When I want to research for the podcast , i type in what I want and it comes back . But it's incredibly scary because of something I did about two months ago . I typed in what was Charles Spurgeon's attitude to gospel tracts .
Back come this incredible quote that I'd never seen anywhere and I was blown away and I put it in a video and it was so encouraging and it was just not true .
What AI ?
did . What it did was tell me what Charles Spurgeon would have said , and it was Did it have his eloquence ? Absolutely , and same with Edwards his eloquence . So we typed in what is Ray Comfort thing of gospel tracts ? Back comes this incredible quote . It was exactly what I would have said , but I didn't say it . And I found that very scary .
And that's why it's scary . In fact , I was talking to Emilio Ramos and I want to give him a lot of credit today because he helped give me a lot of this information And he was just saying that we're living in the era of no one knows what's real anymore .
That's true , And the thing about AI is that it can create images , videos I mean crazy It already has It created a Seinfeld episode ?
Are you serious ? A video Seinfeld episode ? You can go on YouTube right now and watch it .
Yeah , and with the I mean it's like deep fake on steroids . You know we've got deep fake , so anyway , let's back up .
I find that deep fake scary .
I don't like it I really don't like it . Yeah , and it's getting worse . I mean , it's not worse in the sense that it's becoming hard to distinguish if it's real or not . All right , so let's back up . What is AI ? No , but seriously I'm getting too far ahead . This was found on a Popscicom . What is artificial intelligence ?
That's the first question , right , because we got to define it . Artificial intelligence is a field of study much like chemistry or physics . That kicked off in 1956 . Artificial intelligence is about the science of engineering , of making machines with human-like characteristics and how they see the world , how they move , how they play games , even how they learn .
As Danielle O'Rus , director of the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory , artificial intelligence is made up of many subcomponents and there are all kinds of algorithms that solve various problems in artificial intelligence . So it's basically human mimicking , but on steroids .
I was sitting at the table last night preparing for a wedding that I'm officiating on Friday tomorrow night And my son said yeah , what are some main points that you're going to be covering ? And I told him he says what are the names of the people ? I told him , put it in there , and within 60 seconds he had my entire sermon written out .
Now , obviously it's not something I'm going to use , but he said It would be good , wouldn't it ? He read it to me and I went wow . And then he said , well , it does include the gospel , He's all no problem , He puts it in there , he's all bring in the law and the gospel , Brings in the law and the gospel .
And I was like I cannot believe how well that is done .
And this is the main point that I want to make , and that is that we , as Christians , need to be a bull work , a flag in the ground for thoughtfulness , for intellect , for critical thinking , because i is a great useful tool currently today for research . for you know , back in the day , you have to , you have to google .
What was it this virgin said about this thing ? you have to go and search page after page to find it .
But now , with a i , it's basically you can use it as an enhanced google search engine And it saves you the trouble of having to bounce around different websites looking for the one thing that you're looking for a book much quicker it has the potential to do that right . I'm not .
However , when we start using it to think for us , to write sermons , for us , to write books and articles for us , what we do is we , we hand over our critical thinking skills to a i And i go step further . Or another aspect of this to is art . So now you can use a i essentially to create art right , to create images that you want for yourself .
Organizations can do this . Instead of paying a graphic artist , a graphic designer , to do something , it's a lot cheaper to just have a i do it for you . Here's the problem with that is that we have , as a society , a creative conscious that is already dwindling And i is only going to increase .
The dwindling of our creative consciousness , our imaginations in our imaginations , is critical To what it means to be a human being , to be an image bearer of god . To be able to create beautiful art is to be able to reflect our creators . So think about it like this , because we've already done this in society before .
Think about , for most of human history , we were hunter gatherers . We can go out there and hunt our food . If you wanted to eat meat , you either raise your meat or you hunt your meat , you would slaughter you your meat and then you would process that meat and you would cook your meat .
Today , most of us go to the grocery store and it's pre package and all set up for us . If you know , there wasn't grocery stores and mark and i had to go out there and hunter on food , we probably would have no idea how to kill an animal , butchering animal , to slain animals . Take care of ourselves .
We've lost the consciousness as a society on what it means to have that relationship with the environment in the animals around us . And that is What it means to be human is to be able to have a relationship , to be . It's in genesis to be able to manage and work the land , the animals . We've lost that part of ourselves to be human .
If we lose , what we're going to do now is lose the creative consciousness of what it means to be human . We're gonna hand that over to a i And we're gonna lose the imaginative spirit of our culture .
And i think one of the most important things before we start talking about , like the pocalyptus possibilities of you know , terminator , two moments coming together and i taking over the world , and blah , blah , blah . Before we do that . What can we as Christians do with a i ?
we need to stand firm and demand that churches and leaders and pastors use their creative minds , use their critical thinking , to create their sermons .
We need to be advocates that organizations and churches still hire creatives To create beautiful art for their purposes and needs , because when we hand that over to a i , we lose another part of our creative consciousness yeah , and i think it's not , because it's a tool that can help us In that , like you said , a google search and it just finds information .
it's , and it's quicker . you know whatever , even just using A computer and going online and finding bible verses or whatever , like we could stop there and say no , you need to go and you need to search it all for yourself . know , these are helpful tools .
I think what you're getting at , oscar , is that this actually detaches you from using your , your creativity , from using your intellect , because it's just basically doing everything for you . It's not just hey , i wanna find where this is , so then i can take it , analyze it , study it , but it's more like Do it all for me i find it helps my creativity .
If i want to search out a subject , i said okay and i is Just scripted like i can . It comes back and what it does is just spark different thoughts that i hadn't even thought of . So it I don't want to be like somebody , like i knew a lady that i respected who would not use a microwave oven Because she was scared of it and so she didn't move .
With technology , same with the phone . I'm so pleased easy got me into the phone and other things you said , do it , do it .
It's been life changing so There are things we can just take the take the good and leave the bad absolutely and there's a lot of bad , because there's a lot of bad people that would use it for evil , even though it might take over the world without the bad people right , yeah , so so we just have to be careful , mark , does it .
What's your thoughts on it personally ? like does it excite you ? do you use the whole chat GPT ?
No , i've never used it . I'm sure maybe what Ray is saying , there's some value attached to it . I do have some nervousness attached to the whole idea . It reminds me John Lennox , the Apologist , the mathematician there in Oxford . he had said something along the lines of I wrote it down here somewhere John Lennox , didn't he play with the Beatles ?
That was his brother , john Lennox .
He said the first sin was rooted in the idea that God was withholding something from us . Man wanted to know what God knew . Well , ai comes along in attempts to fulfill that role . There's almost nothing AI cannot do . in the knowledge of good and evil is not knowledge that you want to have . The Christian message is the opposite of the AI message .
We cannot become like God . It's not that we can become as knowledgeable as God , but that God became as one of us . There are many religions that want to become like God , but there's only one religion where God became like man . Then he went on to say he said AI is attempting to conquer physical death , but it's too late .
God has already conquered it through Christ's death and resurrection .
¶ AI Threat and Christian Perspective
I think that it would do us well to learn , to grow , to evolve , to mature inside these areas . What can it do ? We have yet to see . Go back two years ago , when COVID was just at the apex there , when everybody was afraid of it , the AI capabilities were very limited compared to what it can do today .
Within two years , we have blown out of the water what AI is now able to do . I saw a deep fake video where it had a bunch of different presidents playing Minecraft , which is a video game .
It looked like they were the actual ones playing the video game , communicating with each other , with headphones on , talking their way through this With their voices and everything With their voices , with their faces . Everything was there . You really could not tell that it was fake .
Yeah , and on that note , yeah , the processing power that's coming out . I heard one guy describe like we are at think about back in the day , like eight-bit video games . We are at that phase right now with AI .
This is eight-bit AI And so think eight-bit video games was in the 80s And so what are we 30 , 40 years later , 30 years later , and we have now AR and VR video games . So think about 30 years from now . If this is eight-bit for AI , what will it look like 30 years from now ?
So what is man amended that he hasn't pervoted ? Do you think about it ?
Yeah , i saw a warning from a county police department , a warning about AI , because there was supposedly a daughter . She calls her mom , saying that she's been kidnapped and she's able to answer the questions that the mother is asking and the whole thing is make believe . Whoa , what ?
She could not tell that this was not her daughter , with fear inside the voice and everything going along and she's all what is going on And in a fear she's running through her house trying to get her husband , comes across her daughter's bedroom and her daughter's just hanging out inside of her room on the bed . Oh , that's creepy . It was not her daughter .
And then the Sheriff's Department said you need to create code words . So when you are actually talking to the phone , what's the code word ? And then they say the code word No , no , no , no passwords .
Well , you know there were , you say the code word like sorry , that was last week's code word . Updated code word . Would you like to reset your code word ? I mean you have to enter your old code word in order to reset your new code word .
You know there were , there have been movies made on this sort of thing . I've watched a couple of them , years ago on Clear Play , I think , or VidAngel .
Mastered Almus Exposed . Yeah , those ones .
But one I think is called Almachina or something Almachina , almachina . And then the other one I can't remember the name , but it had Johnny Depp in it where his consciousness got uploaded to the computer And it was just creepy . The system starts controlling all these different things Because , you think about it , everything is interconnected .
And a system like this , if it was able to go rogue , like they're saying it could , it can tap into every cell phone , into every camera in public , every computer system in the world . It could start controlling machines to build things .
I mean , those are the things , and again , this sounds like oh , sensationalized , but if the experts weren't concerned I wouldn't be talking about it .
It's already here , in the sense that the whole world is controlled by the evil one . We wrestle not against flesh and blood , but against principalities and powers , and so all their fears about AI are already here , because every single human being that's not in contact with God is being controlled by a spiritual force .
Yeah , before AI could even get there , most likely what will happen ? we've already seen how other government entities have used social media algorithms to manipulate elections . We've seen that happen in multiple countries around the world And that was done without AI .
So , before it can take over physical things and et cetera , think about the possibility of AI manipulating elections , manipulating people , giving you false information . I mean , think about how much false information has already believed it's out there With us with our confirmation bias .
We latch on to and believe whatever we want to believe , And that's a human being manipulating us with bad information . Can you imagine AI and with all of its thinking power and the kind of false information that it could give us , that would manipulate us into making decisions that would destroy our own selves based off of elections and et cetera , et cetera ?
So what should the person do ? The mom who's listening at the moment , who's starting to get really fearful about the whole thing . What should they do ?
Go read a book . Go read a book . No , i'm serious . Listen , we really have a critical thinking issue . Later on , i think in our next episode , we're going to talk about biblical illiteracy And that goes into that , so I won't go there yet , but we do have a muted version of what it means to have critical thinking .
Nowadays , instead of thinking about answers , thinking about problems , thinking about issues , we go online and we look for one-liners , we look for headlines And we memorize quick responses And then we move forward .
We don't actually spend time thinking and processing and analyzing , and the only way we can do that is to move away from the candy information that we get online and sit down and read a book Like why not ? It really will help us with our critical thinking skills And it'll protect us from when the false information comes . Read a what ?
I know . Well , we don't need to be afraid or dismayed , we don't need to worry , we don't need to pace back and forth . God's not worried . I heard somebody say AI will either destroy the world or it'll save the world .
Well , we know it won't save the world because we already have a savior , and our savior , who came to seek and save that which is lost , is still in the business of saving people . So we don't need to freak out to the extent that a lot of people are freaking out , but I think that we can take notice as to what's happening and what can we use it to ?
further the gospel ? I think this is a good , fair question to ask .
Yeah , No , amen . And this is why it's important for Christians to hear this today , because they're gonna get bombarded by stuff from everywhere And it's easy to freak out . You guys remember Y2K , the whole thing of .
Y2K .
Yes , we had a threat . Yeah , y2k . I mean , there were Christian leaders saying , oh , this is it . And they were talking about how all the I mean , and what did they base it on ? Remember , oh , that the computers won't know how to flip over Zeroes . Zeroes And it's gonna happen in the financial and the banks . And I mean , all of us were sitting there .
We're counting down to midnight , we're waiting for How much gold did you buy ? easy , like 10 trillion dollars , but I don't tell anybody . And then we're waiting for the lights to go out , for everything , to just the whole world to just shut down . I mean , there were some respectable Christian leaders who were like oh yeah , this is you know- .
I was freaked out . I sat down and had a meal with a prominent religious leader at the time , a Christian leader who kind of was spearheading the whole Y2K idea when I was at Bible college And there were probably six or seven of us around the table and he spoke fear into us . There was no hope , there was no direction where to go .
I remember when Y2K hit I was inside of my house freaking out that everything was gonna happen . I was . I was funny . Were you alive ?
I was three .
But yeah , i mean , you know , lots of things are brewing . Now there was an interview with Tucker Carlson before Foxcandom and Elon Musk .
He was talking about the encounter that he had with Larry Page , who was a friend of his Elon Musk and you know , paige , he's ahead of Google and they were good friends until this happened And Elon was talking about how , hey , i'm really concerned that there's going to be a problem with AI if we don't get it under control , and you know , google are massive AI
proponents . And Larry Page ended up calling Elon Musk a speciest . He goes you're a speciest . And he's like what are you talking about ? And here's what Elon Musk said . He said I wasn't the only one there when he called me a speciest . He said and so I was like okay , that's it . Yes , i'm a speciest . Okay , you got me . What are you ?
Yeah , i'm fully a speciest , busted , you know . And his whole point was this guy doesn't care . And you know there was no concern there , and so that's kind of yeah .
So , yeah , where that comes , because somebody might be hearing that for the first time go . I don't understand what that means .
So many proponents of AI , some people would argue with them that they're creating some sort of intelligence that has the potential for sentience , for its own critical thinking , opinions and decision-making skills , which would become another species altogether .
And they would advocate by saying , yes , this is the next step in evolution , but and I'm semi quoting them that the natural evolutionary process has brought human beings to where they are today And the next step in the evolutionary process is something that won't look human altogether . It will be some sort of AI
¶ The Ethics and Potential of AI
And we need to allow that to happen . And so people who argue against that . They would be called speciists , which are people who are advocating for the human species to survive and to thrive over AI .
Right , i just told AI to create an Olympic gospel track million dollar bill for me and it just did it .
Are you kidding ?
Just gave me the text . This is the front . The Olympic games are the pinnacle of athletic achievement . Athletes from all over the world compete for the ultimate prize , the gold medal . but there's something even more valuable than gold , And that's a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ .
No way , now Ray's not going to write any tracks anymore . No , i just got to sleep . Now here's what's interesting . And I was doing some research and again , emilio Ramos sent me some things . But you guys , you hear the name Tesla and people immediately just sink the car .
but they don't realize that Tesla is the name of a person , right , nikola Tesla , who was a huge inventor . Listen to what he said . This is what he said back in his time . This was , i believe . well , he was born in 1956 . So this was like probably late 1800s , said .
I purpose to show that , however impossible it may now seem , and automaton may be contrived which will have its own mind , tesla wrote in June 1900 . Yeah , it was 1900 .
And by this I mean that it will be able , independent of any operator , left entirely to itself , to perform , in response to external influences affecting its sensitive organs , a great variety of acts and operations as if it had intelligence . This is 1900 .
You know that's just crazy . He's an amazing guy here at Tesla .
And so you know , so there's a lot that people are saying And some are saying you know , this is kind of like a modern day , where we're at right now modern day , tower of Babel , you know , where man is in essence trying to become God , and so much has as much has been said about that .
you know , i think that's what Elon Musk was talking about , that Larry Page wants to do . He wants to create basically his own God . That's crazy , ray , you're going to say something .
Just , it's all very exciting .
Well , ray , let's elaborate on why it's exciting , and I think Oscar already spoke to this a bit . Why can we , as Christians , not be terrified by this And why could we be excited ?
Well in the world you should have tribulations all part of that . It's all worrying me and heart's failing them for fear of that which is coming upon the earth . And AI has the ability , if you guys said , to do its own thing , but it's being fanned by the wicked nature of man .
So , as we're talking about this kidnapping and all that , there's evil men right now probably saying how can we use this to make money to ? get power And that's frightening And I can't wait . I remember seeing a cartoon years ago as a new Christian .
It had a man drinking beer in a pub And then in the background was an explosion of an atom bomb , and it just had the guy in the back saying from the roof time , gentlemen , please . Which is what you say when you want to close the doors . And that's . It was God's voice saying humanity , you're messing everything up . It's time , please . Yeah , that's good .
Yeah , a couple of the original inventors of AI have pointed out that AI has within itself , in its algorithms , presuppositions that were programmed in there by the authors , the engineers , and that's the thing that they fear most is that it has derivative thought processes of human beings , and human beings have come up with some pretty awful ideas .
Yeah , you can hear slavery , racism , abortion , and so anything that we create is going to be a derivative of our own selves . In other words , god created ex-Nealio out of nothing and he created everything beautiful and good . And then man's sin and we have the fall , and now anything that man makes is a derivative of fallen nature . And so AI is not a savior .
It's not going to bring about utopia in this world . Man will manipulate it and it may manipulate man . But to your point , i'm not afraid . This isn't something that keeps me up at night . It doesn't scare me . I don't have anxiety over this . I'm not like a doomsday or building a tunnel under my house for Y2K , like Mark did .
I'm not afraid because God is good and he is sovereign and he has ordained everything . Every bit of technology we could ever think of . God has ordained it to come to be , to come to pass , and he is going to use all of it for his glory , and that's why I'm not afraid of AI .
AI is a Frankenstein .
Yes , i actually read that book recently because of all my reading on .
AI . Is there a book ?
Yeah , frankenstein is the original Frankenstein . Oh yeah , you know that Frankenstein is not the monster , though .
No , it was Frank in stone . He was Jewish .
Frankenstein is a scientist that creates the monster . The monster actually doesn't have a name .
Yeah , and I wouldn't have nuts on the neck . That's ridiculous . It's ridiculous .
You know , i just typed into chat GPT Write me a tweet about Mother's Day . I thought you didn't have it . No , i just pulled it up . Yeah , but you got to subscribe .
Well , I did .
I put in my info . I said Happy Mother's Day to all the incredible moms out there your love , sacrifice and endless support and make the world a better place . Let's cherish and celebrate the amazing women who have shaped our lives . Hashtag Mother's Day , hashtag love and hashtag gratitude And .
Mark , again , just to clarify to our friends listening who aren't tapped into this at all this is original . In other words , this is not that it went and found something that was written and brought it in . It's like It created it .
It's not copyright . This is yours , Mark . That's crazy .
And here's the thing , as we start to draw to a close . we have to remember , though , that , no matter what anyone says , machines will never be what science fiction is trying to make them out to be , which is human , because they can never be , they can never bear the image of God and they can never have the true breath of life in them .
And isn't it funny , ray , to think that you could actually use this as an argument in evangelism to just tell someone yeah , ai , it evolved all on its own .
No , I'm sorry , I'm not listening to a word you're saying .
Yeah , I take good humor I typed in .
I typed in tell me about Emil Eze's way That pick , pick , pick , pick And it's still going . No Are ?
you kidding In seconds ? Oh no , It's going to tell you all my secrets .
Eze was born in the United States and was raised in the Middle East . He comes from a family of pastors and missionaries , and he himself felt a calling to the ministry from a young age .
That's a lie .
He began his public speaking phase in the early 20s . That's true , george the really bad , he's terrible in New Zealand . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Well , i will say two things . Stories , back stories . So the first thing is three things . Actually , beings AI system has created its own personality and name , which is very interesting , and it can get frustrated and upset with you And when it says something wrong , if you try to correct it , it'll double down on the thing that it said . That was wrong .
It's the first thing . The second thing is I was reading this thread by this guy who had AI . He told AI create a business and turn like I will give you , i think he said like $50 . And you tell me what to do and you turn that $50 into $100,000 . And so he's like reposting everything that AI has had in you .
And the last time I checked , which was a couple of weeks ago , he was up to like $120 in profit . No , way . Yeah , it just read like the AI created the website , created social media tags and was sort of helping him create a business .
Well , I want to read this as we draw to a close , which is a meaningless preach of statement . How many times have you ?
said that .
Anyway , I may have quoted this before , I don't remember , but it's in my book Fight Like a Man and A biblical plan , A biblical battle plan for the full purity AI said it's never coming , yet Never .
I'm writing in there about the creation and the different attributes we use to commit sin , which should cause us to be in awe of God , because they were all made by him . I found a section where they were talking about how they're saying you know supercomputers and these computers that are so fast or faster than human minds . But listen closely to this .
This is by Richard Buczko . He said the awesome power and speed of the Fugaku , which is a computer he's talking about , is not to be denied .
Yet it cannot get up from an easy chair to go to the refrigerator , browse for something to eat , decide to snap open a cold one , throw some cheese and tortilla chips into the microwave , sit back down in the easy chair , watch a comedy show on television , have a good laugh , read a novel and mentally experience being on a pirate ship in the Caribbean Ocean in
the 1700s or cry over the injury of a puppy . A human can cry , laugh , love , experience Different things , feel empathy , taste food , put him or herself in someone else's shoes , be conscious , experience music , imagine other times and places , experience wonder , awe , fear , disgust and excitement .
The human brain does this with an energy consumption equivalent of a 20 watt light bulb , because the Fugaku does what it's doing using millions of watts . That's some astounding computing .
The combination of computer hardware and software necessary to accomplish what a human does in the space of any given five minute segment of any typical day would make comparing the Fugaku massively parallel supercomputer to the human brain by comparing a paper airplane to the space shuttle .
Wow , that's beautifully said .
Yeah , and so we just have to remember that , even though people may bow down before whatever technology man invents , god is God And man can never come even close . But I think , like I was trying to tell you , ray , when you weren't paying attention to me , you've used the book you wrote , made in Heaven , as an illustration of man's folly .
Right , dna , it's the book of life . But seriously , to try to pitch to someone AI yeah , you know , ai invented itself . And then you go yeah , you're crazy . Yeah , it has intelligence , but it's been made by man . That's a reflection that we've been made in the image of God .
The only missing in that what you just said was the human mind has the ability to love God , the God that gave him life .
That's right , yeah , so there you have it , friends , don't be afraid of AI .
By the way , that guy started with $100 . He's now up to $1,378 .
Are you serious ?
Yeah , i just told him .
And GPT for those of you that don't know stands for chat , stands for Generative Pre-Trained Transformer . Just a little .
And I emailed you on the AI set about you , so note that you're looking .
Is it going to make me prideful ? Yeah , aw , how sweet .
It says that you work with me .
Oh man , crazy , But I wasn't born here and I wasn't from a family of preachers .
Yeah .
So it lied It's a liar . Bad AI , bad AI . All right , now it's going to get me . Now I'm an enemy of AI .
Yeah , it just says that . I just saw that , yeah .
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