Kazeem Famuyide & Adam Ronis

Welcome to the Lisa Ann Experience. I am here to do a little chat with you all. I've got a little time for us to catch up. We're going to catch up with a very good friend of mine. His name is Kaz. You've seen him on my social feed. He's been at one time my boss as a writer when he was the chief and editor at The Stash. He has been a part of my life for years. We've had a ton.

of fun together. So we're going to catch up with Kaz together. And then the Ask Lisa Ann mailbag segment. That's right. We decided that it'd be more fun bringing friends into the fold. and having them read the weirdness that lands in my inbox. And our first up is my original co-host at Fantasy Sports Radio on Sirius XM, the one and only Adam Ronis from Lisa Ann Does Fantasy.

Let's talk a little bit about where we're at. We're still in a bit of a quarantine situation. There is some movement, some freedom, not a lot, but what is happening right now, just in time, right before we ran out. of the potential of new TV shows

Even though I have recently fallen down the rabbit hole of 90 Day Fiance, did not know where to start. There's so many spinoffs. Of course, I went with Before the 90 Days. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm sharing it with you. It is trash television. But it's good television to have on as a backdrop when you're like doing stuff. So there's that. So I don't think I'm going to run out of 90 day because I just started it. And I know I'm like years behind.

But the return of sports is fascinating in so many ways. It boosts our confidence in knowing that we have not only something to watch, we see our athletes out there getting it done. And during this time. We had the one and only Mr. Dana White discover Fight Island was going to be a potential for UFC. And once I watched the process of the development of Fight Island, how the testing was going to work, I got so deep.

I have become a UFC fan. Not yet enough to put money on it, but I am studying everything from... how they train, what their style is, who the matchups are best with. And what this does for us as well is see how constant testing in these sports is possible. When you watch these fighters in the octagon. on sweating and bleeding on each other, you have a lot more confidence in the simple sports like Major League Baseball, basketball.

and the NFL. All of this started before the UFC with a little touch of golf for me, which was awesome, which I will say, I do enjoy more without the fans. As I said, we're kind of in still a bit of quarantine. New York is slowly opening up. And I mean, very slowly, slower than anywhere else, which I've become. weirdly comfortable with, but as the signs of New York are creeping through, here's what's happening.

I have now realized I need to invest in a bike helmet because when I have out riding my bike, there are people that are walking across the street, looking down at their phone and not even realizing that there's a bike flying at them, a car flying at them. This is why I don't drive a car here. This week in phase four of New York City reopening, I have realized that it's just as bad to ride a bike as it is to drive a car. So there's that.

And then the other day, I had my first interaction. You know, one of those New York City interactions that you got to be a tough little woman to just live here. And it made me happy. So please understand the context. Please, when I share this story with you, do not believe.

that i am facilitating this type of shenanigans because i'm not but i did love it and here's what happened i'm going to set my bike up down the bike lane you got to go into this one spot to click in return your city bike there's an opening The opening is just big enough for a bike, and there's a kid standing there looking down at his phone, not even moving, probably about 24, 25 years old, just in the midst of it. I stop because, of course, I need to get where he is. He looks at me.

He stares at me for a second. I said, excuse me. He's like, what? I said, I need to get in there. Click in the city bike. He looked at me, goes, fuck you. Go around, bitch. Now. What he didn't know under my mask was that I actually smiled. I realized. Things are getting back to normal. It was nine o'clock in the morning and some random dude had already called me a bitch and said, fuck you. That is New York City. Welcome back. I am feeling it. I am loving it. No.

I wasn't even pissed at the guy. I didn't say anything back. I just smiled under my mask. I felt so calm to know that the insanity is slowly coming back. As we see the creativity of so many different businesses, my creativity awards one and two, one is going to.

The Vivid Gentlemen's Club in Houston, Texas. You need to look up this story because I'm fascinated by the fact that they have figured it out. It's hot at night in Houston right now. Strippers can be outside and guys can pull their car up.

and get a lap dance and tip through their window. This is working. They're not just serving you burgers and fries because they have food. You may want to try and eat there, but I'm telling you right now, it is never a good idea to eat at a strip club. Just saying. I've been to enough of them to see what goes down in the kitchen. But back to that, Vivid Gentleman's Club in Houston gets a straight up shout out for the fact that you know what?

You're making it happen. Your girls are out there working. It's hot at night. You could do that in Houston. My biggest fear would be the mosquitoes. But hey, you know what? The dollar bills will make that all go away. And the last little tidbit.

The most exciting thing that has come out of quarantine is the NBA bubble. I mean, I love the NBA bubble. This is the best summer camp I've ever seen in my life, starting with the ingredients. The players arrive and so does their stuff. We've seen Legos. We've seen awesome devising, everything for video games. We've seen one player bring 95 pair of Jordans.

We have seen snack drawers that would make snack stores jealous. Okay. We have seen so much goodness. And now the best of the best, Mr. J.R. Smith. That's right. The same guy. playing with the same teammate, LeBron James, that in June 1st, 2018, if you recall, J.R. Smith over-dribbled the clock, lost the game. Okay, here we are. We get J.R. Smith back, showing up for the Lakers in the NBA bubble, and he packs seven pair of underwear.

He thinks that's going to be enough because there's a laundry service. Dude, when you're working out and you're doing a bunch of stuff, you're going through four pair of underwear in a day, JR. Who did not?

Plan this. And by the way, you can get Amazon packages in the bubble because some of the players are doing it and the packages outside their doors are epic. So I'm sure there's going to be unboxing videos coming soon. All of it. I love NBA. Thank you. NBA is my first love in sports. And now this bubble.

makes me want to sign up for Bubble Summer Camp every year for the rest of my life. So these are all the things that have tickled my fancy recently. And now it is time for us to introduce my very good friend.

a leader, a mentor, a creator, the one and only Kaz. You can follow him at Kazim. Kaz, what's up? Lisa, what's going on? How you doing? How you doing? I love the intro. I'm usually the one doing the intros. I never really get... fancy intros like that so thank you i appreciate well listen you know i i know we have so much to catch up on i love your intro i spent last night and this morning enjoying your podcast say less and i'm gonna go right to it

The interview with Corey Jacobs is something that everyone needs to sit down and listen to. And it's not even an interview, Kaz, that I wanted to be out walking for. I actually sat in a chair in my living room with nothing else on because his... story is something that, oh my God, we know it's happening. But when you hear from somebody that's on the other end and you know what, Kaz, and I know you felt this with this interview on Say Less.

His story, the fact that he got out to the other end and had some juice left blows my fucking mind, man. Yeah, I still can't believe everything he's been through. I mean, obviously, you know, right now with everything going on in the world and, you know, more of a spotlight being shown on. uh police brutality and not just police brutality but just the system that perpetuates police brutality to exist right like just being able to know like hey i can do this and kind of get away with it because

This entire system is built to pretty much only help me out. So with his story, obviously, he's... He's someone who's been through a lot and, you know, he's one of Diddy's longtime friends. And on top of that, you know, he was in the game for a while and he hustled. But, you know, when he got locked up. This is during, I guess, the kingpin drug laws or whatever, right? So it was nothing for people.

getting you know we we hear we hear all the time about like black people still being locked up to this day for selling dime bags of weed right and when you talk about somebody i've had friends go away for seven ten years over weed over weed well where now you can you can literally walk into any pharmacy and get some semblance of cbd products which is nuts to me but you know him it was nothing to hand out consecutive life sentences you know what i'm saying like and i guess

to simplify it to people who may not really know how that works. I mean, you've all seen Training Day. You've seen Denzel, Alonzo, his character where he busts on Snoop Dogg and he's popping a bullet. He's like, that's 10 years for a bullet, motherfucker.

for 10 years 20 years how much you want to do and that's basically what happened to him but what really blew my mind and you said it was just the the level of empathy that he still has like the level of being able to He had it wasn't like okay gonna do 20 30 years and then you'll get out like we got handed down the sentence It's basically a death sentence like that's why he called his

his company buried alive because they're handing out these sentences where no, they can't give you the death penalty and no, they won't really, you know, give you any semblance of freedom or hope. It's meant to destroy you mentally. And to come out of that, you know, not only to get clemency from President Obama and then come in and become a senior advisor to Puff, but...

Being able to just even have the right frame of mind coming out of something like that, you know, like it's traumatized. It was traumatizing to hear and to know that he actually lived through it and has gone through it and pushed forward. I mean, it's not a. it's not a it's a story that is way too common and his story of redemption isn't

something that comes along a lot you know some people just kind of give up hope they stay in jail it's will they don't have people fighting for them he had will how did he have will when he explained you know you see the light at the end of the tunnel you have to understand i couldn't even see the tunnel yeah i was

like well how do you have will i mean how do you have will and so i love that interview it was just so timely and you know here's a random thought that i was having doing it jeffrey epstein oh Yeah, yeah, let's talk about it. Steve, when you look at someone who was white, had money, had connections, knew how to play the game.

And then you listen to Corey Jacobs talk about specific lawyers and him getting a lawyer that didn't even deal with that part of the law, which was perfect because she didn't need to play the game. It wasn't her game. And that game and that level, but I love what you're doing. That was just so awareness raising. I hope everybody.

listens to say less and goes and subscribes to your podcast. Cause I fucking loved it. It was just, they're, they've all been amazing. I love low key. Like, you know, how can you not love low key? How can you not love low man? That's my guy. I love one of my longest, dearest friends, just like you. One of my longest.

It isn't. You know, the fact that after I wrote my first book, you offered me an opportunity to write. You were at that time the editor-in-chief at Sash. And I'll say, Kaz, you know, you may not realize because I'm 15 years older. than you. Oh, Mr. Wins, our boy. I'm 15 years older than you, but you are a mentor to so many, including myself. You're just a leader. You know, we all know that by knowing you.

We're okay. If we needed something, you'd be there. You and I, before all of this changed and before. Remember last time we saw each other, we took a walk and talk in Central Park. And I said to you, I'm thinking about moving back to New York. And you're like, no, don't do it. You like LA. Yeah.

We'll shelve that. We'll get back to it because I got the question here for you that, of course, we're all talking about. How has quarantine and how has this transition in our everyday lives, knowing that I got... 15 years of clubbing and going to crowded places on you. Like I say to my younger friends, I'm cool if I have to stay home and watch TV for the rest of my life because that's okay. I've already done it all. But how has quarantine affected you?

I'm not going to lie. It's been a little tough. It's been a little tough because I'm not sure if a lot of people have followed, but I was kind of in a kind of a career transition right when the pandemic kind of started off. Like I know a lot of people. who made no of us and no of our friendship probably filed flagrant to podcast and all that. And, you know, I had we've gone a separate way since then. And at that point.

I was really starting to really get my feet wet as far as being a face of a sports host, right? Like, we saw each other at Super Bowl weekend. You know what I mean? I was doing stuff for AT&T. You were killing it. That's why we did see each other super since the walk. But yes, you were killing it. Right. NFL Network. You were doing great stuff for DirecTV. Yeah. So I was really looking forward to that. And then, you know, everything just kind of.

On top of leaving an extremely successful podcast on top of a pandemic, you know, just there wasn't anything happening. You know what I'm saying? So like now that was kind of what say less. was birthed out of was sort of a desperation because it was like, all right, even if this goes nowhere, I need to be able to do something to keep my sanity because, you know, for the past.

I guess like 11, 12 years, I've either been a writer or been a content creator or been in some sort of ways to creating something. And the first couple of months where we kind of really didn't know, I wouldn't say the first couple of months, I'd say like the first month, we kind of really didn't know what was going to happen.

I was just kind of like waiting it out and then just kind of seeing things get more bleak by the day and that, you know, we all had some sort of naivety to this at first. Oh, yeah. This will last a couple of months. Listen, if it wasn't for Rudy Gobert, I would have went home from a restaurant that night and told my friends, I'm not seeing you again until this is over. That night, I was sitting at La Masseria with some friends who were in town to watch March Madness. They were going to M&A.

And I see the news on my phone and I'm like, let me get the check. Young, healthy boy. I need to lock myself down right now. Oh, yeah. It's changed. Look, we were at the Super Bowl in February. That was a massive event with a ton of people. We weren't even buying in yet, bro. Yeah, I mean, I heard about it and I remember vaguely-

in Miami and a few weeks later at All-Star Weekend, like, I would see some people just, like, wearing masks, but I thought that was just, like, a trend. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, some folks are just like, I guess that's the cool thing to do now is wear these little stylish masks. And then, you know, but I would hear it.

But again, like many people, we didn't know anything. We really didn't take it that seriously. So, you know, as the time went on, I was like, man, you know, mentally it started to really get to me.

not really knowing what was next, whether it's the world of sports, whether it's the world of content creating, whether it's anything. But I kind of figured out, man, as long as I have myself, I have my brain, I have... the internet and, you know, a few other things. Like, we just kind of got to keep it pushing. So, I mean, yeah, it's been up and down, you know? Like, I'm not going to lie and be like, everything's been all hunky-dory because I feel like that's kind of a nut.

a dishonest answer like you know when anyone asks oh how's how you've been holding up and someone's like oh you know i'm okay like you're not okay nobody's okay like none of this is normal and that's fine

Right? I mean, I will admit to you that once a week, I will find myself in an emotional state over the fact that the borders are closed. Yeah. You know how much I travel. You know how much I go, right? And I have never felt so- suffocated and now to see that other countries are recovering and they don't want us there countries that rely on tourism you know in the break between when I can travel before football starts up every

Just the suffocation of not being able to be free. That's been really heavy on me. Also, it's just been- I've been trying to keep myself in this Monday through Friday schedule where I get up, I work out, I put on jeans. I get dressed because I don't want to put on weight. I'm just trying to get into all of this. You can't help but feel that every day is running together. And some days you definitely feel way more blah.

then oh yes oh yeah it's just heavy man and on top of that and add being black to that you know what i mean like it's all of that and and you know even in the midst of a once a generation pandemic like our country still can get out of its own way as far as like the relations between black people and law enforcement. You know what I mean? Like it's...

it's debilitating. Like there's definitely days where I'm just like, yeah, I just ain't got it. You know what I mean? Like there's been times where, you know, I would, I would just postpone recording dates or just, I can't post on social media. Cause I feel like I have nothing to say.

Right. I feel like it's so arbitrary to just throw a photo of myself up there. And it's like, I'll sit down and go, okay, you haven't posted on Instagram in three days. You need to do something. I feel this constant pressure. And then I'll go to want to post something. I'm like.

This is so tone deaf right now. I just don't feel like giving. There's been definitely blocks. There have been times, I locked myself in my master closet for three weeks, literally, to record the audio book to my first book. Wow. And it was a torturous experience because A, we all hate our own voice. B, I had to listen to all the edits and then I wanted to redo each chapter like 10 more times. C, I realize I'm a better writer now thanks to you having-

me write more frequently about different topics. I realized now I wish I would have put more time into writing my book. So it was this like totally hating myself situation, but it was good because it was a distraction. I had to say to myself, Kaz.

I will read a limited amount of news a day, but I am not watching the news because I've become a little bit distrusting. And I felt that you have to bounce back and forth between multiple channels and then kind of who's less crazy and how am I bringing this together?

felt that the news was a emotional block for me well I feel like every every outlet has their sort of agenda right like there's there's the one thing that's been hard for a lot of people is knowing that there is no real right or wrong when it comes to any of this the world and just you know especially news but the world in general is a big shade of gray like in everything and that's not

easy for a lot of people to swallow it's a lot easier for people to be like i am this and i'm against that and when that happens you're like all right well you you get you get distrust and you get craziness and like now we're things are really serious and people are relying on the news to be as truthful and honest as possible because we don't know shit and we are literally relying on the news, relying on everything you do. Now you're at a point where, okay.

For my own mental sanity, I can only take you in bits and pieces. You know what I'm saying? Like the first two or three weeks. I don't think I watched anything but CNN. Oh, my gosh. When they were putting bodies in trucks in New York City, and I was like, you know, I discovered the city bike, by the way, sidebar. We'll get into that in depth because I'm fucking addicted now. I checked my stats yesterday. I've already rode almost 500.

uh, miles, uh, since I signed up for city bikes, city bikes, city bikes are great. And there's that hitch where you got to return it in 45 minutes. I know the exact place to leave central park, click it back in, get it back out. Cause I don't want to pay any overage. Okay. So anyway, back to that.

One of the things too now when you turn on the news, we've reached this new level. So we were educating ourselves when this was happening in New York because it was so suffocatingly sad for us here as New Yorkers to feel. Even if it didn't directly affect your family or friends, which I know we all had an interaction with somebody that we lost.

You still felt this sadness. I think this is when other states turned off the news. And now you have California, Florida, and Texas that are just in this outcry. And now it's turned into this like the hunt for Karens. The hunt for Karens. And for all Karens that live in fucking Orange County by the fucking beach, which I know how much it costs to live there, Kaz. You're yelling at some girl at Trader Joe's.

live in Newport Beach you know what fuck you Karen I don't even care what your point is fuck you you suck but as a woman these women a lot of these women are closer to my age These are 40 and they're 40. I'm 48 years old. I would never conduct myself this way, especially having empathy for a worker. who's constantly having to expose themselves to germs just to go to work. We only visit germs when we decide I'm going to the market or I'm doing this. And I'm more appalled right now at this.

These groups of women, these Karens, they're parents. These are somebody's parents. I'm sure of it. I know they have kids, Cass. I'm at the point where- How can we have so many of these women? i'm at the point right now where and and i know i shouldn't you know uh i shouldn't provoke violence or anything like that but like stop recording these people and just beat them up at this point, right? Like, we're at this point where you're just like, oh my gosh, like I saw something yesterday.

Where, and the big thing on social media is, yo, Twitter, do your thing, right? Right, right, right, right. Cancel culture, this person. Cancel culture, and you put the video on there, and it's like, yo, you're right there, bro. Like, they're saying it to you. Slap them in the face, and be like, yo.

like this ain't rocking no more like do you want to lose your job or do you want to get punched in the face like because we can we can't do both right so when it comes to that man like and even the whole like rise of the Karens it's I feel like it's all tied in I feel like everything is connected because you didn't really see a lot of that in New York City because in New York and New Jersey and just most of like the northeast coast I feel like

we were hit the hardest, the quickest. We went through it first. We went through it first, so we got the brunt of it, and it was almost like we were really, we all built up that sort of empathy.

immediately when it happened so like the first two months you know nobody saw no one you know what i mean like i had i had one of my my very good friends from la come in and you know come visit like maybe like two or three months afterwards and it's like wow like people are really shut down here i'm like they're not doing that where you are they're like nah man like things are just kind of business as usual i'm like oh boy it's it's okay all right we're not playing here

We are not making plans. And you're right. They are all connected because these are the same awful people who are not open-minded. Yeah. And who are potentially also racists. Yeah. And who also would have a better chance with the police. Let's say there was a fight. Yeah. Who might get in trouble? Might not be the person that was actually guilty. It depends who gets in that fight. And I understand. I totally understand why. Karen, it would be different.

Right. I understand why it's hard to just, you know what, say, just punch these guys in the face and they'll learn their lesson. Everybody has a plan that they get punched in the face. And that's what. That's what Karens do, right? They know that the police and law enforcement is there to protect them. They're not necessarily there to protect somebody that looks like me. So they know just the threat of...

being on the phone like this knows that 90% of black men and women are going to be like, shh, let me, all right, whatever, you got it. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, we saw what happened in Central Park with, you know. the original i guess oh the og karen also the second plan of attack for her for me was like please take her dog because i didn't like the way she was dragging it by the leash and i was like

Take the dog as well. This one is horrible. She took her dog and they gave it back, by the way. They gave it back. But she lost her job. And now other stories have come out from ex-co-workers about just what a awful person she is. Yeah, that always happens. You don't act like that if you're not truly deeply ingrained as that type of a human. You just don't do it. But when I watch this and I talk with a lot of my friends in different countries.

Do you realize how they're looking at us right now in America, Kaz? Do you realize? I saw somebody say we're the Florida of the world. Are we all looking at Florida? Yeah. It's not everyone's looking at us. It's just like, man, we've. It's it's I've never thought we'd get to the point where like people have like like feel sorry for us. You know what I mean? Like we've never we're almost kind of looked at as like a third world country who couldn't control like.

you know I remember growing up and you would see like things in Africa like damn they don't got malaria knocked out by now like that's we knocked that out in the early 1900s and they still got that and you know they're looking at us like yo it's just an example of just piss poor leadership um the the way that americans granted right

Freedom is such a loaded term that we as Americans have leaned on for a long time because what's freedom really, right? Like freedom is a white construct that was made. to be able to say or do literally whatever you want as long as it oppresses other people below you right okay so when it comes to this right

We've always said, well, freedom isn't free. You look at all these countries where, quote, freedom isn't free, and they got the coronavirus knocked out in a half a second. Oh, yeah, because they're people.

don't fuck around you're going to fuck around you're getting arrested you know you are gonna you know i just read yesterday and i don't remember where it was uh but they're gonna be three three months hard labor if they're caught out without a mask uh like yeah you know playing no no they're not they don't fuck around over there and you know when they look at us it's

It goes back to my point of everything kind of being a shade of gray, right? We've all been thought that like, well, there's right and there's wrong and there's how I feel and there's your feel. And as Americans, we can all kind of see where we all fit in that sort of puzzle.

We're not talking about that here. This is science. This is like hard evidence like, yo, this is a disease that spreads through droplets from your mouth and your nose. And if you simply just wear a piece of cloth over your face. You can literally save thousands of lives. And somewhere along the line, this all got politicized for some reason. And now... Because we have such shitty leadership, it's not somebody who can just look at something and be like, hey, right, left, blue, red.

State, blue state, it doesn't matter. This is a scientific thing that would help us save lives. Let's all do that because we as All-Americans are all on the same team at the end of the day. The dude that's in charge is so hell-bent on divisiveness. I'm not wearing a mask. about not wearing a mask and making it something that was divisive that makes it seem like that's something that Democrats do. That's BS. It's a hoax. It's a hoax made by the Democrats.

mind-controlled idiots that have been following this dude, I don't even like saying his name, that have been following this dude since he became elected will follow him into the grave. Oh, they'll walk into a fire. They were walking to a fire. That's what they're doing by not wearing a mask. You know, I'll use the example of Jaquinda. She is the prime minister in New Zealand, 37 years old.

This woman didn't have press conferences. She did everything on Facebook live from her house. And she talked to everybody about creating their own bubble and whether it was going to be your work bubble, your home bubble. You had to stay in this bubble. You had to continue to interact with just those few people.

Look how quickly and efficiently they knocked it out because she never made it political. She didn't want a bunch of people coming in, interviewing and traveling in to interview her. So she utilized Facebook live, which is brilliant. It's a tool. She was able to protect her family and be. home by doing that and this is a 37 year old woman man

And it's mine. It makes you just want to pack up and move there as soon as they open the fucking borders. I'm really good friends with Ezreal Adesanya, the UFC middleweight champion of the world. And he's been in New Zealand the whole time. And I interviewed him maybe. like the second month of quarantine or whatever and he was like yeah we got we got this pretty much under control man like everything good over there and if you've noticed all of the countries that got this under control quickly

We're all countries loved by women. And, you know, not for nothing, we are a country. that has failed to uh progress because you know outside of one dude out of the last i don't know 400 years we've been controlled by old white guys that have been the established guard. And, you know, I'm not saying that somebody's gender is going to, you know, change the way the world might work because there's always going to be people that are very, you know, against the change. But...

It's just really, really odd. Not odd, but like it's worth noting that, listen. These old white guys, maybe they're a little out of touch. Maybe we need to try something different. Maybe. Just a try. Let's just try. It could be a combination of a maternal instinct that comes in with a woman that is more compassionate, that is empathetic, that isn't quite.

as as you said divisive but what we're really seeing here is how yes we didn't get much information though i am thrilled that we finally reminded people in the u.s to wash your fucking hands are you kidding me There's a lot of things that I'm totally happy with because of quarantine because I don't like shaking hands with people. I mean, like, I feel like if I don't know you like that, like, that etiquette is something that I don't know. I need more elbows, I'm cool, right?

Like, everybody fondly remembers to wash their hands. Oh, my God. Stay away from me. Don't touch me. Like, a nice little head nod or something is totally okay. There's a lot of things that, you know, I know we'll never get back to normal. But I'm totally good with like, I went to a diner yesterday and they don't even give you menus anymore. They just, you just go to a phone and you scan the QR code and you order from there. And it's like, you know what? This is like.

This is 2020. Why aren't we doing this from the beginning? You know what I mean? Like, why aren't we using this thing biology? Now, on my end, I can say that I love the mask era. because I don't get recognized or bothered. So I've got the mask on. I've got my sunglasses on. I got a hat on. I feel so free. So like, what have you done? All right. So since I guess we could do a little bit more in New York than other states.

What have you got to enjoy more in the mask era? Not being able to be recognized, especially you're in a very popular place in New York City where it's probably very easy for you to be recognized. What have you got to do now? than before quarantine where as soon as you walk out people know exactly who you are.

Well, I never thought that I would be able to ride a bike on the middle of the street in New York City. But you know, those first two miles, like there's some cars now, but some roads are still kind of closed. You do have to start looking both ways now. But there was like, I didn't have to stop at any traffic. Like I was right. I rode.

I rode all the way down seven to the other end of the island in the middle of the street. And I was like, this is mind blowing, right? No helmet, no worry in the world. You know, I have also been able to communicate with more people because the mask and the sunglasses, I'm not getting, no one knows who I am so I can have these conversations with strangers. So what I decided to do was, you know, there's a guy down the street from me that I see anytime I walk to the post office.

to deliver books. I always see them. I'm assuming. that his wife doesn't let him smoke in the house. He has a wedding band on. He's an older gentleman. He's got always two facts to say great. Very intensive. He sits outside. So he smokes Newports. I know because I picked him up a pack last week. And I decided that I was going to start to get to know my people in my neighborhood.

Cause they don't know me. They don't know what my face looks like. And I can just walk up with body language, speak through my mask and, and, you know, talk. So I walked by the first two months, Kaz, he wasn't having it. I was like, good morning. How are you today? Then I same side of the street on the way back. Hope you have a good day. After about two months of this nobody being and nobody talking.

He looks at me one day and he goes, hey, how are you today? He said hello first. Wow. Now we're homies, right? Again, he doesn't know what I look like. So the other day, I'm leaving to go to the post office. These two kids walk up to me. They're like, yo, you have a lighter? And I'm like, I don't, but I can get you one.

You got a couple bucks? He's like, yeah, no problem. So I walk him over to my guy. He gives him the lighter. They give him five bucks. Everybody's happy. Nobody still knows who I am. Can you imagine? These two kids are like 20. They're in their peak Pornhub era. They know exactly. And even your voice sounds a little different through a mask. So I'm like in this beauty safe place.

Also, like there's been a lot of construction going on in the city. So I've like always wanted to have random conversations with construction workers when they're like standing there sweating. They have nothing to do, but they got to stand there. So I'll walk up. How's it going? What are you guys working on? today and I carry on all these like random I've had conversations with dudes without being afraid. That's what I've been doing.

That's wild. Cause like, I mean, you, you live such a completely different reality than like, not just, I mean, granted it's already hard. being a woman in New York City and not getting catcalled. But like you're one of the most recognized women by men, by horny men in the world, right? So like things like having like conversations and just being able to talk with people.

would do and not have to you know really understand that okay well you gotta have like we've had conversations where like you know your guard's up like almost all the time Now your guard's just a little bit down and like you...

people start to know you and you get to know people and like like i'm friends with a security guy at my cbs and he has no idea who i am but we have the greatest exchange when i go in there you know how i dress in the city i'm completely not attractive so that people don't bother me but

that's been a little bit of a discovery. Also, I've spent my, my, what I call my, my psychologist 30 minutes is I lay on the couch in my lobby and I talked to my doorman. And so there was a time where they had to be there alone. There wasn't multiple doormen. Cause it was emergency and only I felt like you're lonely. They're lonely down there. 12 hour shifts. Right. So I lay back on the couch. I bring down a coffee, bring them a tea, coffee, whatever they want. And we talk, whatever it's sports.

My only thing I tell them I won't talk publicly is politics and religion. I really do believe you should know someone well so that you know how to speak to them properly because you can offend somebody without meaning it. And so you want to cautiously, like with my friends that I know very well, I feel that we can have really good dialogue. So we don't talk that stuff, but we talk, make a lot of sports bets, that kind of stuff.

I've been, you know, when you live alone, you know that you still have to have a human interaction during a time like this. And this fucking city, Kaz, is still pretty quiet. Yeah. Yeah. I had to make that happen. I had to make it not be my computer screen, my FaceTime, and really engage. And it has been a freedom for me to have my face totally covered and be able to have normal conversations with guys.

My dorm and I never worried about the construction guys. I would never talk to construction guys by normal time. They'd right away be like thinking. Nope. And now when I ride my bike by, they're like, hey, how you doing today? I'm like, oh, good. I'm like the president in my eight block radius. And I love it.

that's awesome man i mean it's it's it's you know you got to kind of take where you can get right now as far as like positive experiences because you know every every day it's something so uh if you're not and granted one thing i've learned

I'm starting to reach out to a lot of people who haven't spoken to as much because of whatever. And, you know, I'm not in this city anymore. I'm kind of like in the burbs and jerseys. So like it's very quiet. And, you know, when I was uptown in Harlem, like, you know, you.

you're just surrounded by people all the time, even in your own building. It's suffocating. It is suffocating, but you know, there's definitely a part of like that human interaction and being able to talk even past the computer, just, you know. Seeing people at the store or having conversations with folks, man, like this is needed. I didn't realize the one thing I've really took notice of during this pandemic is even though like, you know, we have.

this career where we connect to a lot of people and talk to people and you know you're creating content that's very talk heavy so you feel like you're connecting with people there's something about one-on-one human interaction that i didn't realize how much i really needed it right like we need it it's essential it's essential man like it's it's almost like you you kind of go nuts after a while like I see I forgot what movie it was but I think uh what's the dude Chris uh Chris um

Star-Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy. He was in his movie with the other girl from X-Men, and they were literally in these pods for, I think it was like After Tomorrow, whatever, and just...

She was the only person that she talked to for like 20 years or 30 years or something like that. And just having a human interaction and the absence of it and how it... fucks with you mentally you know what i'm saying and just not knowing just little social cues and things that you don't even teach yourself but like you just kind of know just from being around people like you forget

you can forget how to communicate. You can forget how to talk to people and like know that, you know, someone's not little, siny, subtle movements or talking with people that a lot of folks don't get or don't understand about you.

Especially, like, if you're, you know, me being a rather large Black dude, like, there's these nonverbal cues that I usually have with people just to kind of put their guard down. Right, right, right, right. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. I'm a Jaxal Giant. I'm a Jaxal Giant.

Even if it's just the person that you normally saw at your D&D or Dunkin' Donuts, right? You had this like three-minute exchange that you didn't know the value of until our lives were completely changed out from under us. And there's a doorman named Alex.

who's right by my post office i got to know his name during quarantine he i take my sunglasses off we stand about eight feet apart leave the mask on we talk and one day when this first happened i said to him you know i feel awful because you can no longer see me smile and he said i can see you

smile with your eyes, your body language is really good. And I said, I think it's really important that we still have these interactions. And I think this situation could make us all at the end of the day, come out much better people, but I just don't feel enough people.

are paying attention to it in that same kind way as of ie right now we have some people where i live that are fighting the doorman about wearing masks and so i caught someone doing it the other day before they were walking out for a walk and i walked out behind him and i said to him yo here's the deal

You know what? He doesn't want to do that. It's his job. Like, there's signs everywhere in the building. It's not really up to us. And I just, I never understood. I said to him, like, you might think you're one. but he might be doing this 25 times a day. I said, you have to remember something. That guy took the train during the peak of this pandemic to make sure he could sign for your Amazon packages. Like, yo, I'll tell you what, I wanted to buy a make it rain gun.

online so that when I walked into my nail salon for the first time I could just like be at a strip club like make it rain like I'm just mad tipping heavy I'm carrying cash for me everywhere I go because there's nothing really open but the things you do do

You want to try and pay it forward for the fact that they weren't able to work. Same with my doorman. When they were still coming in, I fleeced them all one week. And I said, yo, I'm still working. And you guys are going through a lot. And you're here alone. And I just want to say thank you. So when I'm hearing these little people, I'm like that person that's fighting the mask is a resistor. There's going to be a divide. And I think we're seeing with our own friends where.

You see the things that they're adding to social media that you don't think are productive and they could be spewing more negative things, right? Whether it's your conspiracy theory, like, listen, grab some beers, roll a joint and sit with your friends and have that conversation alone.

Okay. Don't put it out there for all your coworkers and your friends to see, because I find that words can be interpreted wrong. How many times did you miss the context of a text in life because you read it faster because you don't know the person's tone? All the time. Adding, don't waste your voice. Add properly. So I hope that you and I, knowing that these interactions, we know we miss them. We fucking miss them. Shit that I didn't know I missed. I lightly touched on it in the intro, but.

I got fucking told off by a guy the other day after my bike ride, and it made me so happy, Kaz, because that's New York City, yo. I was trying to get in to lock my bike, and he was standing in front of it looking down at his phone, not paying attention. I needed to get where he was. I'm sorry to stop.

He's like, what do you want? I said, I need to get in there. He looks at me, he's like, fuck you, go around, bitch. And I was so happy. I was like smiling under my mask like, my God, is this city coming back? Yes. Yes, baby. That's New York City for you, man. That was an interaction. And I mean, I know it sounds stupid to have celebrated it, but it was an interaction. And I was like, hell yeah. So we're getting back. Even the negative reaction. Even the negative.

overreactions that's what we need we need all of it we need all of it because it makes us feel human at the end of the day man like i understand that this is a hard time and i understand that you know it's very easy to kind of get turned off by everything and feel bleak or whatever. But these human interactions is what makes us human. It's what separates us from the animals and- And the computer will never justify. Face time will never justify. It is awesome. Believe me, it's been-

Wonderful to see our friends in these settings, but it will never replace. And I'm not talking about going back into like a crowded club and being around a group of people. I'm just talking about a small gap. I'm good with that forever, by the way. Are you? Let's talk about that. Remember the times like.

I don't know if you went to Greenhouse when Greenhouse was a thing. Greenhouse, the coolest place ever that never had a liquor license. Like we were all in there illegally at all times. That place was popping though. I always wondered how they'd let us smoke cigarettes. joints and everything in there now i know they weren't worried about their liquor but everybody would be there like everybody anybody you could name has been up in greenhouse

I'm mad at Drake and what was it, Chris Brown? I'm mad at Drake and Chris Brown for getting that place shut down. That was that fight downstairs. And the week before, I had my 40th birthday party there. And then the next week, they go, they fucked that shit up. That was old.

but for you moving forward what would you say your biggest goals are as we start to face how different our life is going to be coming out of this I know you recently got engaged thank you yes congratulations thank you so much yeah finally uh making the leap um i i would say one of the my biggest goals right now is you know i I used to be very goal-oriented as far as hitting certain numbers or selling a certain amount of things or whatever.

And, you know, I'm starting to look back and starting to realize, like, why I got into this game as far as, like, creating content. It wasn't ever to be like, oh, I want to get this nice house or drive this nice car, be able to afford these nice things, man. Like, stuff, right? Like, stuff. was things that used to drive me after a while. But when I first got into it, it was because, man, like, I'm a storyteller.

I love to tell people stories. I love to, I want to create things that will outlive me. I want to be able to be like, you know, even just being able to look back maybe like five years ago when we were working together at Stashed and even 10 years ago, I put up a post yesterday. on my instagram and it was literally just like a a throwback thursday like flip book of all these artists that like i admire and look up to

And just how grateful I was to at one point be able to be trusted to tell their stories. Yeah. Right. Because at one point, you know, there was no social media. There was no Twitter. Right. It was, you know, we were, you were an entrusted source to tell the stories of the cult. that you grew up loving and getting so much out of.

On top of that, I want to be able to continue to do this for the right reasons. I want to be able to tell compelling stories, things that last longer than I do. It's very easy. We live in such a digestible society when it comes to not just... content creating or artists or anything like that. Like it's so.

everything's so fast and so quick and digital and it's in and it's out like you can't even touch it or grab it or hold on to it anymore and I want to be able to do that because the one thing that I've noticed through this pandemic is everything that wasn't important or even a little bit not important was just irrelevant immediately right like whether you were an artist that were putting out uh just just

Trash music that really didn't say anything or did anything like you were getting out there I Mean you just you were just throwing things out because the system and and the way that art was created and commodified, it rewarded volume. It's like the more you put out, the better you'll do and the more money you make. Quality just went down so much. And that's what I feel right now is everything I do is about.

quality and not quantity even with my friends I told my friends like I just want to do one-on-one things we get together we sit outside whatever we take trips they're simple we don't got to make a ton of plans it doesn't have to be a ton of thing but I just want that

quality and you're right we don't need to force so much out when you talk about compelling stories that interview with Corey Jacobs is such a compelling story and you can hear it on say less you have to go and listen to this story what I love too is I picked up on something. The two female lawyers that helped him. This is the next level is raising the ideas in education for young black women.

and for young black men but i think you know i think for women there's been definitely a gap there and now we're seeing like look these two women gave up everything because they believed in his story and now they're part of his whole coordinated effect to have this great work that he's doing and you see these things those women were straight up

Because guess what? They could be making a quantity of money doing exactly what they were doing, but they believed in their people and they knew that they had to help. And I hope that these stories that you're sharing- inspire younger people to maybe push the limits a little bit more. Maybe we do need to see.

a more equal balance you know a more I mean there's just shows you can watch and there's just things you can look at even in New York City and say that's straight up all white why and I'm not saying force something But I'm saying inspire the younger generation to want to be that. And to want to exceed the expectations that are already so limiting. And women especially. And I think women of color have an opportunity right now.

to really help the younger generation see their limitless capabilities. And we see it with female athletes because they're like dedicated to the next level. Not talking like. jr smith dedicated i'm talking like you know dedicated and i mean i'll tell you this man it's a one it's a big reason why i'm such a huge follower and supporter of the wnba right because you know the wnba gets a lot of shit from by the way i love the wobble

I love that they're calling you the Wubble because it's the time to NBA. I love it so much. I'm such a fan, a proponent of them because you mentioned the two female lawyers that helped Corey Jacobs out. You look at Maya Moore, who was... without a doubt the best player could have done anything she gave it all up for prison reform and and not only that like she got results like she got this dude free you know what i mean that was a beautiful day wasn't it

Oh my God, I was emotional seeing it. I was too. You never see that sort of, not like it's a happy ending, but you never see that result. You never see a resolution like that. Yeah. And now it's not just. up to black women it's up to black men to empower those black women as well like it's up to everybody because the status quo was only established because of the people that stay in charge and like once

Now people of all colors are, especially Black men and women, have this opportunity. You can't just get these opportunities and hold on to yourself now. No, you have to share. You're not doing anything unless you're bringing people up with you. Right. At that point, I mean, like...

It's in Black women's nature to take something and give it life and enrich it as much as they can. It's not just, oh, well, you know, I'm just going to put my boy on. Like, nah, man, like Black women since the beginning of time. You give them lemons, they make lemonade. Like that's.

That's what they do. So, like, it just even makes just good business sense. Like, if you can't even get out of your own mind, your own sort of, like, non-progressive or racist sort of mind, like, it just makes good business sense to empower Black women. and put them in positions to lead and create and take charge, man. They get shit done.

I listen to Sarah Spain every day. She's my favorite female broadcast. She really, really is. She's got a great laugh. She's got a great voice. And she's been covering a lot of everything in the Wubble since nobody's really covering the Wubble.

It's been fascinating. And I've learned so much more about different teams and how this is all working out for women's MBA. But before I let you go, I need to hear your thoughts, Kaz, on the greatest thing that's come out of quarantine in my eyes, which is.

the NBA bubble. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Shout out to my guy. Shout out to my guy, Trayvon. Shout out to my guy, Wells. They run the NBA Bubble Life Twitter account. What's the best Twitter account that ever started this year? Oh, my goodness. It's... Fuck a Twitter account. I'm like, that Bubble Life account is going to be the greatest reality show ever in sports history.

every night before I go to bed because it's fun. Yes. It's fun. It's seeing these players who have, you know, you got to think like, you know, NBA guys, a lot of them know, I would say like a good 80% of them know they're going to be in the NBA by the time they're like in their 60s or 70s. grade right right so they've been in this you know they've had handlers and protectors and coaches

Now it's back to the basics. It's like AAU ball. Yeah, they're in blow up baby pools trying to get their ice packs on, okay? You've got three seven-footers in blow up baby pools sitting out drinking beers the other night. Also, let's face it, Kaz, they've been quarantined just like the rest of us. And although they might have better digs than us and gyms and everything at home, when young men play sports that young.

part of what makes them tick is being part of a team. They are used to competing. They are used to being with their friends. These are their friends. As much as we want to say these are all competitors, these are all kids they played with in different tournaments.

through high school college what have you and it's bringing me just a lot of joy to see them all together again it's giving me some fake feeling of normalcy but i've loved everything from the snack drawers the first day with the terrible food and the plates and oh my gosh we were all just like that's how it's gonna be oh my gosh

You know, one player, you break the bubble to go get some chicken wings, okay? But it's creative, and you've got to give it to the NBA and Adam Silver. I mean, he does better than any other sport. no tests zero positive cases zero positive cases like it's and it's now there's always i feel like everybody who's watched you know this kind of thing kind of come together there was always that some sort of guilt like man like if somebody gets sick or worse happens

to this, like, none of it would be worth it. You know what I mean? But now it's like, yo, like, as the days go on, it's like, wow, they're really figuring this out. Like, you see the benches and, like, it almost looks like movie theaters. Like, everybody has their own space.

And if you think about the edge for young players, rookies, especially players who have not really gotten a lot of good time in the NBA yet, and they're getting opportunity, whether it's a player that's injured, a player that decided to opt out, these players are going to really...

because they're not yet used to the big stands, the big fans, the big distractions, the big noise. They're used to playing in smaller facilities. So this is when we're gonna see a lot of younger players that you knew nothing about yesterday shine. And that's gonna be exciting. watch, but I'm loving all of it. It's given me so much joy. I mean, if there was ever a woman though, Kaz, that could have been invited into the bubble, do you not agree it should have been me?

Lisa, I'm not even touching that one, okay? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the invite's somewhere in the DMs. Oh, I don't even look. I should probably look in there. Can't somebody's agent reach out to my agent? Like, can we do this right? Like, but when I see these, you know, the thirst trap starting to happen because a bunch of my guy friends are like, the hardest thing for them is going to be no sex. I'm like, well. Yo, so.

I was talking about that. I'm like, man, there's two. I'm like, we're getting just the tip of the iceberg here, right? And how fun it is. Like, it's fun now, right? Once games start to really count, we're going to... intensity rile up and we're going to see people not getting in their routine after games and some people have their routine and if they don't have their routine there's going to be a lot of

I don't know how to put this. Barbershop. Why couldn't they build a strip club for James Harden? I know this was discussed, but it didn't. I'm not. I am not. I'm not too certain there isn't a strip club in there. Like, you got to think about it. Like, the Bubble Life Twitter account is only stuff that the players themselves are recording. So if they got in and they're like, all right, listen, we got the barbershop here, but like, listen, listen, listen. Low key, strip club over there.

they're dancing in glass boxes you can't touch them but they're there and they're naked okay Oh, man. Lisa, if you get the invite in there, please, just send me a private DM. Y'all ditch my phone. I don't need to take no photos. I just want to be there to share joy. I think I'm trained for it. I think I'm equipped. But Kaz, it was a pleasure. It's been a pleasure being your friend.

Knowing you and watching your journey and everything that you're involved in. And I will tell you, I will not miss an episode of say less. You can get say less anywhere that you like to listen to your podcast. I love what you're doing and tell my people here. and experience where else they can find your work.

Well, you can find me on a shout to Whistle Sports and Brother. We do the best of Say Less with Kaz every Friday on their Whistle Sports and Brother YouTube channel. So you can check it out there. You can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at Kazem. That's K-A-Z-E-E-M. And yeah, continue to subscribe to Say Less. And Lisa, thank you so much for having me. We've been friends for a long time. And I always tell people, and you already know this, you're one of the most.

kindest gentlest most sincere genuine people i've ever met in my life and everything that you've done everything that you've been to me and my friends and just the person you are It only holds a candle to the person I've gotten to know over the years. So thank you so much for having me, man. It really does mean a lot. Thank you. Have a great rest of your day. I love you so much. We'll do this again soon. Everybody go and listen. I'm going to have you on. You got to come on and say love.

Yes, yes. Let's do that for sure. For sure. Everybody out there, go listen to Say Less and Kaz. Thanks again for joining Lisa and Experience. Thank you.

Man, it is always awesome to hang out right here. Just us and my friends. What a great conversation with Kaz and just inspiring and exciting, which is a very different turn that I have to take right now. I've got to go down that rabbit hole. of the place. The AskLisaAnn at gmail.com email box. It's fearful. I have to be on a full stomach. I cannot be tired. But what I've decided is this will be much better if I don't have to read the emails.

So I'm going to just bring friends in. They read the email to me. I react. It just seems like less of a laceration to the eyeball. This first run is going to be brought by my counterpart, the original. From Lisa Ann Does Fantasy, my co-host, Adam Ronas, who finds it's funny to read all these emails. So let's go with the Lisa Ann mailbag segment right now. Ask Lisa Ann, brought to you by Adam Ronas. Adam, thank you for joining for such important time. And this is just.

These emails, which you've been a part of, you've been doing a show with me since 2013, you have seen the bloodbath on social media, the things people say to me, and how confused the world actually is. It's insane. And obviously I don't even see probably most of it. I only see a small sample. So I can imagine all the work that you have to do.

to delve through the emails, the tweets, Instagram. It must be insane. And I'm sure you don't even go through all of them because it's just too much volume. Trust me, I get messages asking me how they can meet you. It's insane. So you're very popular. People love you. I will say this.

You said 2013, almost seven years. It's crazy because it's been so much fun and you are a wealth of wisdom. I can always come to you for problems. Thanks, Adam. Let's go. Question number one. All right. First question is, are you still in the porn industry and how can one become a porn actor? I find this question interesting because this person is clever enough to find an email and ask me by email, but yet they don't just Google search. How do I get into porn?

They think the girl is always going to bring them in because it's easier, but it's pretty lazy. And so when I got in, Adam, I had to hire a photographer, have the photos developed, choose the photos. I had to mail them to California, which I then had to wait two, three. weeks for a long distance phone call. And at that time, I didn't even have long distance. I was using a calling card. If you remember those, I mean, calling cards, that was a nightmare. And so

I figured it out, but yet people think they could just email me. So I'm going to tell said person who wants to know how to get into the business, use that Google. It's for all good things. It's not just for porn. You can Google regular questions. Next question. Yeah, and obviously, if you're trying to get a reaction from Lisanne, you got to be a little bit more original than that, too.

Here is one that's a little bit longer here. Okay. I am using a burner email address to send you my message. So it could be Kevin Durant. So I may maintain some anonymity. My question revolves around my need to be with multiple women other than my current girlfriend. I've been there. I enjoy experiencing different women because I am not getting any younger and I just enjoy a change, a problem I consistently run into.

is one of attachment on the part of my female interest at that particular moment in time. Although we both agree to compartmentalize ourselves because of our current relationships, The situation has always ended up with my female partner attempting to get serious and become more emotionally involved. Is this just the cost of doing business or is there something I can do better? to find someone and achieve a completely physical, satisfying business-type relationship. Thank you in advance, Mark D.

I mean, Adam, you know, I get to select which emails are going to be read by which friends. So of course, I knew that you would find so much joy in this email because you often have a hard time. with girls getting attached to you and maybe you're not ready. But what strikes me is first and foremost, He's using a burner account, so his real girlfriend obviously checks his messages. He's obviously got a copy for her, so this chick is on him, right? Burner account.

Now, he wants to be a cheater. This is what he's asking me. How can I be a successful cheater? Is this just the cost of doing business? Okay. We'll start with the relationship factor. relationships whether it's friendships business relationships or loving relationships are all really based on one thing and that's trust and you know without trust you don't have respect

So this guy is the average person that wants to have their cake and eat it too. In many worlds, we all want to have our cake and eat it too, right? Not saying he's the worst person in the world, but he really needs to rethink the wheel because he's trying to reinvent the wheel. The wheel has spun the same way since relationships began. He acts as if it's a business transaction. I almost feel he'd be better off going the way of hiring a worker, if you know what I'm saying there in air quotes.

But Adam, what's your take on any advice you may have to give to him? Because I think he's searching for validation. I think as we're getting older, we often do get afraid like, oh my gosh, I'm getting older and I won't be able to search out as many younger people. what have you, but searching for sexual interest is usually validation and it's people trying to rely on, am I still cool enough to do this? Am I still hip enough to do this? He's at a fork in the road where he can't decide.

Whether he is fit for a relationship or whether he should keep playing the game and he's gonna reach that fork of what happens is he's not gonna be able to find a relationship and he is gonna be too old to be out there dating. So in my mind, he needs to make the decision. Do I want to have a relationship because you can't be bringing things home to this other girl that loves you and know her burner email? What is your advice?

It sounds like someone, again, who kind of wants to be with someone, one person, but wants to go out from time to time and find someone else. It's just kind of, you get, I guess you... It's tough to say, but there are times, even if you're in love with someone, there could be a little boredom, especially in the bedroom, no matter how much you try to spice it up. And you just kind of want to step out just for one night. And it sounds messed up, right?

But it's the truth. We're all human beings. We want a different taste of something. We don't want to eat the same food every single night, no matter how much we like it, right? Steak could be your favorite dish. You don't want to eat it every night. You need to mix it up. It sounds crazy, but that's the way I think humans are now. And especially in the era we live in with all the technology and the ability just to go on an app and find someone.

that you can go have some fun with. It's just way easier. It's different times and people know they have that access. And they want it. And I think that's a big part of it. And if you think about where I grew up, I grew up in a very small town. When you grew up in the 70s in a smaller town, Adam, you couldn't get away with something like that. There was no hiding it. Everybody knew everybody.

you'd have to drive like an hour away maybe to go to a restaurant hope you didn't run into somebody so you're right it's so accessible now but my boy you need to either decide you want to be trusting loyal respectful dude or just be a player You know what I mean? If you're singing that song, I don't want to be a player no more, then you got to stick to it. Next question. What is your ideal date night from David?

David, this is a good question, Adam, something that everybody would probably want to know. I'm fairly low key. I'd like to do something rather casual. Ideally, it would be great to go to a baseball or a basketball game. not too forced to talk to each other the whole time but you get to kind of be enjoying something together that would also narrow down the fact

that I would prefer to date a sports fan. I definitely want to be able to talk sports with somebody that I'm dating. And in the times where I've tried to date people that don't follow sports, I found it to be really frustrating. You don't have to love it as much as I do.

But it can't be like a girl asking you to go to the ballet. You don't really want to go to the ballet, Adam. You're not into it. You might go once a year because she's like a great girl. But it's not something you want to do. I'd love to know if I ask my guy, I want to go to a basketball game. He's excited about it.

I think a sporting event is a great first date, maybe a carnival, like something that's outside where you can walk around. I'm not as into the whole, like, let's get fancied up and sit at an awkward dinner together. I think eating together on a first date can be really awkward because you're self-conscious and you overthink it and it's too quiet and I would like things to be going on. So that's a simple first date to me is a sporting activity.

Well, that's a good segue. Edward, who asked the next question, is going to be pretty happy of what you just said. I'm a follower of you. Don't make Edward happy yet, Adam. Do not make Edward happy. All right, I'll let you crush his dreams after I ask the question.

I'm a follower of yours on Twitter and a huge fan. It's been my dream to take you to a baseball or football game. I live in Los Angeles, California. I don't know why I put in California, but anyway, after the self-quarantine ends, Will you go to a baseball game with me?

Adam, I'm loyal to you for baseball games. So, like, everyone's going to have to realize that it's not about him. It's about you. You are my favorite baseball game partner. I take the train, and the only time I ever take the train is to go to Vets games. I'm horrified on the train. You know, I don't go underground. It's just not my jam. So Edward, I appreciate the invite.

I do not normally go to baseball games with strangers unless I'm auctioning off a date for charity. I love that Edward is into baseball, but Adam, think about this. You and I go to baseball games. We've been to football games, been to basketball games. You've been gone to a hockey game.

Imagine you're that guy now. You're the guy that gets to go to all these games with me. Does it make you any happier about the experience? Oh, of course it does. I mean, you know, obviously we have a different relationship. I always enjoy talking to you, hanging out with you. We don't get to do it as much anymore.

I know you're not going to a baseball game this year. I can tell you that. Even if they let fans in, I know you. There's no way you're getting on that train for maybe a couple years. Oh my gosh, the train. I didn't even think of that because I would consider going to a baseball game if we had the right setup.

Like, look, if some of the press boxes are empty and I could talk somebody into giving us a press box, we're going to a game. But I would have to take a car, I guess, because you're right. Or I'd put myself in a hazmat suit and I'd wear it in the train and then I'd take it off and put it back on to get back on the train.

train, but you're right. I would be more afraid of the train than the actual baseball game itself. Oh, this next question is very funny because I know you and a lot of people are going to assume like, oh yeah, money is everything. Hey, would you like to go to dinner with me? I pay $3,000. Gross. Okay, listen. The fact that the guy knows his price, Adam, this is similar to you telling me...

That there's girls on dating apps asking for money. Now we know why they're asking for money. Because there's people like this that are willing to pay this money. We also now have discovered a going rate. The going rate to dinner is $3,000. So like Adam, if I invoiced you for all the times we've gone to dinner, you'd owe me a ton of money. It'd be ridiculous, right? I do not go on dinner dates with people for money. But again, I...

find these ever so humorous because I don't care who the person is. No one is worth $3,000 to sit at a dinner table with.

Adam, is there anybody who would make $3,000 of dinner with you? No. and here's the but you're not only are you getting three thousand dollars though you're also getting a free dinner and you can probably order whatever you want so this could add up to ten thousand dollars so if you don't want to do it i'll sit in for you i don't know if they'll do it but tell them you're gonna

go and I'll show up well there's the answer to that question Adam Ronis is willing to sit in on the $3,000 dinner of course I do get a cut i would like a good and i'll bring your food back i just want commission i just want commission whatever you want i mean you can tell me 80 i can't say no right you can say 90 i can't say no i gotta be fair i gotta be fair adam is there another one Yes, we got one more. When do you have a piece of land for gardening? What would you plant from Petra?

So I would love to garden one day again. You know, I grew up, we raised a ton of acres of all different fruits and vegetables. We grew everything we canned it for the winter. So I never really had to buy frozen vegetables or I never really had canned vegetables. I'll tell you. what I am still scarred. Do you remember the string beans that used to show up on your lunch tray in school?

They were like a weird color. Yeah. We raised our own string beans and then we steamed them and then we froze them. So I would look at those green beans and I would tell my friends in school, I think that they're fake green beans because I didn't know that's what they look like when they sit.

that can so for pedra I would grow anything that I absolutely could and I remember one cool thing that I learned years ago my dad was very against pesticides and he knew exactly what flowers uh little rodents like to eat everything from squirrels to possums to rabbits and so

The external three feet of our garden patches were always surrounded by flowers and as a kid I thought he just did it because it was pretty but then later I realized not only would he have those flowers for them to eat but he would sprinkle pepper.

regular pepper all in the grounds of those flowers so when the animals would try to sniff and get too close to his garden they would get pepper up their nose and they hated it and to him that was better than putting pesticides down that would hurt the animals so One day I will have a garden. I'll grow everything from herbs to tomatoes and zucchini to cucumbers, peppers. We would grow corn, which is a really tough plant to grow because one good thunderstorm and it can all get knocked over.

One day, like in the retirement era of my life, I will have a massive garden and all of my friends will have bushels outside where they could just come in my yard at any time and take whatever they wanted because that's how I grew up. Everyone that had a big garden, you could walk in their backyard any time.

pull up one of their big bushels and just fill it with whatever you wanted. So, so cool. Well, those were good. Those were good questions. We ended on a high note with something that was healthy. sustainable i really liked it um i won't bill you for dinners but everybody needs to know adam is my sports husband though we're just best friends like brothers and sisters

He holds stake on all sporting events, so I'm sorry out there if you're asking to go to games with me, but I'm complimented. I'm also happy that you like sports and that you're going to games and supporting the sports that Adam and I both love. Again, you can hear Adam and I every Monday. night on Lisa Ann knows fantasy on fantasy sports radio. You can follow all of Adam Ronis's work at the fantasy alarm.com and you can follow him on social media.

Twitter and Facebook at Adam Ronas. Instagram is A-R-O-N 88. Adam, have a great rest of your day. Thanks so much for joining us. No problem. This was a lot of fun as always. Everything is always fun with you. Thank you for spending some time with me on the Lisa Ann Experience. It was so great to catch up with you and also, as always, with a friend. Awesome to catch up with my friend Kaz. Everything about these emails and the fact that Adam Ronas is the one person that...

loves to read my weird emails. That really iced the cake. I hope you enjoyed it. If so, please rate and subscribe my podcast and you'll be hearing from me every week on the Lisa Ann Experience.