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Leighton Smith Podcast #274 - March 5th 2025 - James Roguski

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James Roguski is a fighter for what he regards as the truth.

He is a researcher, author, natural health proponent and activist.

Three years ago, Roguski uncovered documents regarding proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations and contributed to them being rejected. 

But the battle goes on.

The WHO, mRNA, and other controversial areas are his concern. Controversial, yes, but worth listening to.

We contribute information you’re unlikely to hear elsewhere on Trump, Zelenskyy, and the Oval Office debacle.

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Welcome to podcast two hundred and seventy four for March five, twenty twenty five. Ever heard of James Roguski? Maybe yes, maybe no? Now. I spoke with James Rogowski earlier in the year. He is an interesting character fighting a battle that he's passionate about. And more on Rogowski shortly. First, there is the story that's spoken this morning of Richard Prebble's resignation from the White Tangi Tribunal. I didn't even know that he was on the tribunal. He's only been

there about, i'm told, four months. Nevertheless, having read the letter of resignation, I have to say, Richard Prebble has not let us down. It is a brilliant letter. It tells the truth about the situation, and if it doesn't make politicians in this country pull their socks up and actually get some guts, then this country may well be in an attempted to say terminal trouble, but certainly serious

trouble if it's not already now. Leaving that aside, it'll be everywhere for the next few weeks, I would imagine, and it will cause some disruption, But let's deal with the small matter of the rest of the world. We went to bed last night with one story, we woke to another, all together different version of the lay of the land. Now, in the period since the oval office verbal battle that ended in total chaos, we've had commentary from all sundry, everybody, all over the world. Everybody has

how to say about it. There have been arguments I've had to extract myself from some because people have different opinions, different versions, and different interpretations of what's happened, mostly based on their understanding of what this is all about in the first place, and variations on the theme it has become once again a social crisis. Very good friend and I agreed that we would not talk about it anymore on the basis that we couldn't come to we couldn't

come to a mutual anything. My argument is and always has been that when there is a crisis like this, you cannot rush to judgment. My opinion is it always has been for as long as I can remember, is that when there is a crisis of this nature, and this is probably the worst one we've had for a long long time. But when there's the crisis of this nature, you cannot garner all the information at once. You have to wait for it to be revealed. You have to

get different opinions. Doesn't matter what you thought before. Unless you're in receipt of all the detail, you can't really make a decision about how you feel. Oh, you could arrive at one, but you might be deceiving yourself. And let's not forget it's where you get your information from that is vitally important. Let me give you some examples of what's been published in the last few days. Europe is falling. Martin Armstrong warns, that's why they need war

with Russia. Zelensky goes to town. If the President of Ukraine Zelensky were on my Christmas list, I think I might give him a copy of Through Sidade's History of the Peloponnesian War, Zelensky has finally and fatally misstepped. Seldom in modern times has the fate of a whole nation been so dependent on a single meeting and on a

single relationship. When Zelensky entered the Oval Office on Friday, he had one job to repair a deep and catastrophic rift between him and Donald Trump, who the previous week had called the Ukrainian president a dictator. Zelensky held the future of US support for his country's defense against Russia in his hands. Cutting Zelensky down to size, President Trump and Vice President Vance's combative meeting with the Zelensky today was an important first step in preparing the American people

for peace. It's a different sort of a different sort of article. It has a perspective Trump, Vance and the New World Order by Stephen Sukup. We had Stephen Sukop on the podcast a couple of years back on his book on Wokeism, and he was very good. This opening paragraph,

least part of it, I think is essential. Quoting this past week, the venerable A. Mutton Wolf, chief economics commentator for The Financial Times, used his column to declare the Trump administration and by extension, the United States, the enemy of the West today. He wrote, autocracies are increasingly confident in the United States is moving to their side. According to the subhead on the column Washington has decided to

abandon its post war role in the world. Meanwhile, Wolf cites the in his estimation August Franklin Roosevelt as he complains that the United States has decided instead to become just another great power, indifferent to anything but its short term interests, to which Sukup starts his response. The ironies here, as well as the historical ignorance abound, And having read it, I can tell you that Sukip's right. And I've never had much regard for Martin Wolf, and there are many

many others that I could quote you. Now let me cut to the quick disaster in the Oval Office. DEM's lead Zelensky and Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal. Written by Michael Goodwin, a senior journalist with the New York Post. Now this is worthy of some quoting. A common criticism of Zelensky's disastrous Friday performance in the Oval Office is that he failed to read the room. Actually, the Ukrainian president did read a room,

but it was the wrong room. Before we go any further, let me just say that the war of words between opinion makers has largely been based on who caused this ruction to kick off and the left scribblers have gone straight for the jugular with the president the Vice President of America. Listen to what Michael Goodwin has to say. Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral

deal that the President was offering. According to Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat Connecticut, quote, just finished a meeting with President Zelenski here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine. He posts that on x at eleven to fifteen am on Friday, which a picture of Zelensky at a conference

table with Murphy seated on the opposite side. Forty minutes later, Zelenski arrived at the White House, where Trump met his car, smiled, shook his hand, and walked him to the Oval Office. The meeting, as the world now knows, quickly went off rails and ended with Trump angrily rejecting the arrogant ingrate from the White House. The earlier meeting with Dems. The Democrats undercuts wild claims that Trump and Vice President J. D.

Vance staged, staged in ambush. In fact, it was Zelensky who came with an ulterior motive, And the piece goes on and gives much more detail. Now there is a second from the New York Post from I say our very own Miranda Devine. She is astray and of course we had her on the podcast a few years ago, and shortly after she moved to New York and has stayed there ever since. Zelensky was the true instigator of

the Oval Office fracas, not the ambush from Trump. Anyone who watched the entire Oval Office meeting between Trump and Ukraine President Zelensky would know that it was not an ambush or a set up by Trump, as characterized by Democrats and malign media entities. It was the opposite. If anyone came to that meeting in bad faith, it was clearly a Zelenski whose body language and attitude was negative

from the start. Trump could not have been more cordial, having steered the complex negotiations with Russia and Ukraine to a first step where he believed peace was a real possibility. But Zelensky had other ideas. He contradicted, interrupted and insulted Trump even before Vice President J. D. Vant said a word. Now there's plenty more like I say, Miranda Divine and Michael Goodwin from the New York Post you can find

them online. But there is one opinion piece that I want to emphasize that the only Trump, not Zelensky, can say Ukraine. I have known Vladimir A. Zelensky very well for years as a senior official personally appointed by Zelensky. I spoke to him many times a day and observed him closely, both in public and privately. We parted on good terms and without rancor. I have no personal act to grind, but today I cannot This was written by the way On, published on February twenty five, which was

before before the Overloffice blow up. But today I cannot remain silent about how Zelensky is weakening Ukraine under the guise of war. As a result of this new climate of fear, I must write these words under the veil of anonymity, a necessary precaution against retaliation from the very regime I once served. It pains me to admit that at least some of what Donald Trump said about Zelensky

is true. While Western politicians have rushed to condemn Trump and his vice president's remarks, a quiet ripple of approval ran through large parts of Ukrainian society. Ukraine has become a paradox, a nation fighting for its sovereignty while dismantling its own democratic foundations. Four years, the West has indulged in the illusion of Zelensky as the faiths of democracy.

In reality, he has undermined our democracy, institutions and economy, making Ukraine much weaker in the face of an existential threat, and in the process destroying our nation's motivation to fight the Russian aggressor. Now one two, three and a half pages, so I'm not going to quote at all, but let me choose some segments. His first presidential term ended in May twenty twenty four, but with the war ongoing, no elections were held. Zelensky who prolongs martial law every three

months and has never sought about easing it. As European politicians are suggesting claims that the people don't want elections. The recent Ukrainian survey confirms this, with sixty five percent of Ukrainians not wanting to have elections throughout the war, but over half of Ukrainians want to see the end of the conflict as soon as possible. According to the Gallop polling last year, that percentage might be higher now. Moreover, I often doubt we can trust current polls from Ukraine Today.

Fear rules over a country where elections are indefinitely postponed, human rights are systematically eroded, and fear dictates daily life. As Zelensky's authoritarian instincts were already becoming clear even before Putin's invasion. As early as twenty nineteen, I listened as he demanded propaganda from his subordinates to flood the media with praise when his policies failed. Today he's achieved that, a vast army of voices branding him the face of

democracy and the very embodiments of Ukraine itself. War has provided Zelensky with unchecked power, enabling his security forces to act with impunity in at least eight front line regions. Martial law has given rise to police and military excesses under the pretext of hunting down collaborators. State forces raid homes,

search phones and laptops, and detain civilians arbitrarily. In such areas, people and people will never reveal their true thoughts to a journalist or a poster, they will parrot the state's approved rhetoric. Zelensky is a hero, Ukraine is unbreakable, and then in private they will say what they really think, that they want him gone. The war has given Zelenski everything he ever wanted, absolute power, control over billions in

foreign aid and standing ovations from the world. From his very first day in office, which I witnessed first hand, he was fixated on securing a second term. Publicly, he dismissed any talk of reelection, insisting it was too early. Privately he never stopped preparing. Zelensky is obsessed with his approval ratings. Even now he is laying the groundwork for

his campaign. Since September of twenty four, his administration has been funneling extra payments to those who promote his image online, flooding social media with thousands of carefully curated videos showing him as the charming actor turned wartime leader clad in

his signature khaki T shirt. But his more decisive strategy has been the systematic elimination of political opponents, and the author goes on, shall I conclude with the final paragraph, Ukrainians are not cowards but they don't want to die for Zelensky's government drowning in corruption scandals day after day. Only ending the war and restoring democracy and the economy can preserve Ukraine. Continued war will not lead to victory,

but to the collapse of our nation. Power must change hands, and if Donald Trump does not make that happen, then Ukraine has no hope. Now, just to wrap this up today, of course, this morning's news was that Zelensky is full of apologies, desperate to go back to Washington sort this

out and get the benefits that Trump was offering. So if you look at all this in order of how it happened, particularly the discovery that Zelensky went and negotiated or talked or got coached or however you want to interpret it by some undesirable democrats as opposed to more desirable democrats. Murphy is one of those, a less desirable democrat, then when you can see that things need a different interpretation to the one that they were banging on about

on MSNBC and CNN and other places. Now you can find that article only Trump, not Zelensky, can save Ukraine on the Spectator dot com, not the Australian Spectator the Spectator dot com. If you want to find any of those other articles, you want any more information than write to me and I'll happily provide them. You could argue that because it's anonymous, it's not reliable, and I agree

that there is a sceric of that. However, I however, as you know, I have great respect for the Spectator, and I don't believe for a moment they would be printing something if they didn't know what the source was. And I might just note that the Australian Spectator this week is printing opposing viewpoints. It's interesting to note the war of words that has developed between some shall we say, highly respected high flyers in the world of academia and

business over this whole issue. Interesting to see it. I sort of feel sad that it's happening. On the other hand, I think it's great that there is actually full fledged and articulate disagreements being publicly discussed, which, in the manner of free speech, is highly desirable now. James Raguski is a researcher, an author, a natural health proponent and an activist who believes that the old systems are rightfully crumbling,

so we must build their replacements quickly. In March of twenty two, he uncovered documents regarding proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations and was instrumental in raising awareness about them, which resulted in the amendments being rejected. James is now doing everything possible to expose the World Health Organization's hidden the gender behind their proposed pandemic treaty, as well as the who's ongoing attempt to amend the International Health Regulations.

His vision for the future can be summarized by the phrase out of the WHO and in with the New Now at the book title, Your doctor is a liar. He is undoubtedly controversial, and he will upset some people probably and attract others. But nevertheless, I thought and think that his opinions are worthy of airing. We shall talk

with mister Rauguski next. James Ragaski is a researcher and author, a natural health proponent, and an activist who believes that the old systems are rightfully crumbling, so that we must build their replacements quickly. In March of twenty two, James uncovered documents regarding proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations and was instrumental in raising awareness about them, which resulted

in the amendments being rejected. James is now doing everything possible to expose the World Health Organization, the who's hidden the gender behind their proposed pandemic treaty, as well as the who's ongoing attempts to amend the international health regulations. His vision for the future can be summarized by the phrase out of the WHO and in with the New. James is very good to have you on the Latensmith podcast and I appreciate it.

Speaker 3

Thank you well, thank you very much for having me. There's a lot of issues to discuss going on in the world. I think most people are on overload. Where would you like to start.

Speaker 2

I'd like to start with me sitting up in bed yesterday morning actually and opening up my laptop as is usual, and reading a piece about you, a short piece information piece about you and what you wrote, what your latest activity is. And you've opened up a something that I would call an asset to the many people who care about the sort of things that the DURAN don't involved with the sort of things that we discuss constantly, and that is the World Health Organization, matters, COVID and all

related to it. Now you've set up this new website, just give us a brief.

Speaker 3

Well, you know, your use of the word asset makes me feel very good that that was the first thought or word that you use for this. The phrase I use is a resource center, but I think those two

phrases are very very similar. It's called not safe and not Effective dot com and it actually is just a domain name that points to a series of twenty six and potentially more articles that I've written on my substack account, and not safe and not Effective dot com is a direct pushback against the claims that many people have heard,

mostly relating to the COVID nineteen injections. I refuse to call them vaccines, where everyone keeps saying, oh, they're safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective, Well they're not. They're not safe, they're not effective. And what I've been doing for the last months, because I've been publishing these one per day, is just essentially collecting the evidence that anyone could use to buttress their well founded belief that

these products are not vaccines. They are not beneficial, they are dangerous, and quite frankly, if you look at it, very clearly, they are really biological weapons designed to harm you. Now, if that shocks you, I encourage you to dig into the information because I don't say anything unless I can back it up with documentations. This is evidence, not speculation.

Speaker 2

When did you begin this journey?

Speaker 3

Well, you know, if you want to get spiritual about it, you know, I was born in nineteen sixty. I was born with club feet, and I spent a lot of time in you know, orthopedic surgeon offices as a child wearing casts and braces. If anybody has watched the movie Forrest Gump, Forrest Gump was running with braces on his legs, and you know I grew up with those, So I can, you know, give testament to the fact that wonderful things can be done to help, you know, people improve their lives.

As far as I'm concerned, you know, I overcame that problem. I don't have any issues with my feet or legs or whatever. But after the age of nineteen, so approximately forty five years ago, I'm sixty four going on sixty five. Since the age of nineteen, I have not set foot in a doctor's office. You could not pain me to go to a medical doctor or take a pharmaceutical drug you couldn't pay me to take an aspirin or a

time and all because I know too much. I've studied natural ways of healing, and there are things out there that your doctor will never tell you because it's just simply not part of their business model. And so to fast forward to you know, current times, when all of this craziness started happening in twenty twenty, you know, I had a lifetime of learning to understand that we were being lied to, but unfortunately many people fall for the propaganda.

The last article that I published is really all about how people fall for, you know, sweet sounding lies that you know both give you the idea that someone is there to try to help you while making you scared of an invisible boogeyman. You know that you have to, you know, do something to your body to try to prevent a problem that you don't actually have. It's marvelous how people's minds have been manipulated by what I call

the Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex pH EIC. And the reason why I use that phrase is it ties in to the other PHEIC from the who they have the authority under the International Health Regulations to declare a public health emergency of international concern or fake. So when you fall for one fake and then you go to the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex and fall for another fake, thinking that swallowing or injecting poison into your body is

the pathway to health. If you don't wake up to that reality that they profit from your ill health, that is the problem that we face. And the who is just, quite frankly, a tiny little piece of that complicated puzzle.

Speaker 2

You write a book a few years ago with regard to doctors and the cholesterol.

Speaker 3

I did. I was managing a small herb nutrition, homeopathic aromatherapy store here in California and had many many conversations with you know, the customers who would come in, and one too many of them said, oh, Jim, you ought to write a book, okay, And so that was about nineteen years ago. I've always given it away. You can download the PDF for free. It's entitled and you can

go to the website by the same name. Your doctor is a liar dot com And so cholesterol is just a flat out lie, and it's older than I am. The lie began in the nineteen fifties, and so that's a rabbit hole that. You know, we could go down if you want to, but I think there's more current problematic things. But it does together because when you look at the people who died and their deaths were I think inaccurately inappropriately attributed to COVID. You've probably heard the

phrase co morbidity. Well, morbidity means disease, and so you know what percentage of people, let's just say, in the United States are diagnosed as having high cholesterol or high blood pressure or high blood sugar, diabetes or whatever, and what that really means. You know, the people who died and their deaths were attributed to COVID, but they had

all these co morbidities. What is really going on there is because they were told they had a problem that wasn't really a problem, and the solution that they were given wasn't really a solution. These people were being poisoned in multiple ways with a cholesterol lowering medication, a stat or a high blood pressure medication, or some sort of sugar you know, blood sugar management poison and they were suffering, you know, liver damage and kidney damage from the poisons

that they were being given. And when whatever happened to them and then they were treated inaccurately and appropriately with ventilators and high concentrations of oxygen or rem decivir or whatever. They were murdered by the pharmaceutical industry under the guise of you know, oh well, this is the approved therapy, the approved treatment, the standard protocol. And the problem is those standard protocols do not address the cause of the problem.

And when you know, your doctor or healthcare practitioner puts youth through their system, which it starts with, oh, you know, you have to get a yearly check up. Okay, they're bringing you in to get tested to find some number on a test on your blood test or whatever, some sort of screening to take healthy people to get them to believe that they have a problem that can be

fixed with a drug or a JAB. And so I called those things the screenings, the testing, the drugs and all that, and certainly the vaccinations, which I use that term loosing. Those are customer acquisition tools in the business model of the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex. Now, if you look at COVID, how many completely healthy people were forced to get a PCR. I don't want to call

it a test because it's not a diagnostic test. Even Carrie mallis the event or said it's not completely healthy. People were told because of a quote unquote test fraudulent tests. Anybody can go to pcrfraud dot com and learn how that came to be. They were told that they were asymptomatic cases with COVID nineteen. Well, asymptomatic means you don't have any problem, which you know, disease. How can you

have no symptoms but yet have a disease. It's amazing, But people fell for that, and they continue to fall for it. And you know, if a person is not allowed to go to work, or go to school, or go to wherever. I still have friends who their children will not allow their grandparents to see their grandchildren unless

they've been jabbed and tested. And I know of people who had the swabs stuck up their nose and it punctured the lining you know, between your upper sonuses because it was done improperly, and they had a leak of the fluid that protects your brain and had all kinds of health problems from a test that isn't even remotely

capable of diagnosing disease. So what we're really dealing with on a big level is propaganda and lives designed to turn healthy people into lifelong patients and or customers, if you will.

Speaker 2

That's an extremely effective summary of the situation I have. I've interviewed a large number over the last four years of people medical people in the main who have given us some pretty good insight into what's well. They've opened up the doors to what's available information wise, and really this is the way that I see it, that nothing should be mandated. It should all be a matter of option and choice based on the best information that we

can that we can have. What happened, of course in this country, was that we had a government that wasn't interested in any other approach to this other than what turned out to be falsehoods on the part of many companies, many individuals, and many highly qualified so called highly qualified medicos. And that's left a bit of taste in the mouth

of a lot of people. But since then it has given people the opportunity to expand their interests into other areas where they needed more information to cover off things like well cholesterol and statens and what have you.

Speaker 3

Well, you know, government politicians and or public health officials who try to force people to do things for their own good. I'll bring it around in a different way to try to address what you just said. I am of the belief that I was born with a terminal illness. Okay, it's known as James Rogusky syndrome, and I've been dealing with it all my life. Eventually, it's probably going to get me at some point. I think that maybe decades

away from now. But if I were to go to a medical practitioner and they were to try to give me some sort of help for any health issue that might crop up as part of my unique situation, They're not going to find an ICD ten code and International Classification of Disease code from the WHO that says James

Ruguski syndrome on it. They're going to have to buy definition, miscategorize me and say, well, you've got you know, mister Elzheimer's disease, or mister Parkinson's disease, or mister Luke Grigg's disease. Now I've got James Rogusky syndrome. I've been managing it all by myself pretty well for the last sixty four years. And the moment a person gets die agnosed the Latin means two people do not know what's going on. That

is when the problems begin. When a person is diagnosed and categorized by some disease classification, the thinking at that point, the examination and the investigation stops. They don't look back and say, well, I wonder what it is you're doing or you're not doing. What is it that you're experiencing? What is going on with you as a unique person man or woman or child. Boom that stops. And there

was a protocol to follow. Once you've been it's been determined, Oh you're a diabetic, or you're a heart patient, or you're a cancer patient, or you're this, that or the other. That is the problem, and almost everybody falls for it. If I may, let me give you a couple of good examples please. A good friend of mine whose mom has since passed, like a decade ago, but a couple

of decades ago, her mom was injured. She was one of the actual original dancers in the Broadway musical West Side Story, and a couple of decades ago, she bashed her knee on a coffee table. Its swelled up and they ended up going to the medical doctor who manipulated it actually made it worse. Ultimately, she was given a diagnosis of arthritis. And so my friend called me up and said, you know, Jim, arthritis is like, you know, a long term degradation. She didn't have any problems. How

could that be? I said, well, this is the perfect example of how the trickery begins. It begins with the diagnosis. And I said, well, hold on a moment. You went in and your mom's got a knee. It's swollen and just a problem. Well, the doctor just translated swollen knee into Latin. Ours means joint and itis means inflamed. Doctors just repeat back to you in a language that you don't understand the very thing that you told them, so that they can fit you into the cubbyhole of whatever

diagnostic protocols they can make money off of. Use the idea of fibro mio alja fiber muscle pain. Person goes to the doctor, Oh, manuel ache all over, it hurts, you know, I'm sore all of the time. They're told that they have fibromyo alga fiber muscle pain. Well, that doesn't do anything other than confuse the person. They thought they had muscle pain, and now they go home going oh, my god, I've got fibromano alga. Right, it's linguistic trickery.

They should have said, well, what are you eating? What are you doing? You know, when does it get worse? If you go to a homeopathic practitioner, they'll ask you five hundred questions about your life and they'll give you an appropriate treatment for you. If you go to a medical doctor, they want to misclassify you. And let me tell you, they understand, and I've spoken with people who they know that in their doctor system, all of the files are color coded because some diagnose diagnoses are way

more profitable than others. You might have a headache because you're constipated and you really just need to go to the bathroom and it will subside. Or they might convince you that you might have a brain tumor and you've got to go, you know, get an MR or or I or cat scan or whatever it may be. And that is enormously more profitable than take to ask for

and call me in the morning. Okay, Well, the point behind all of this is that we are easily fooled by experts who claim to know us better than we should know ourselves, should.

Speaker 2

And should be should be the operative word should be the operative word.

Speaker 3

And so with you know, trying to bring this back around to COVID and the who and what's going on in New Zealand and what people can do and why we're having this conversation. How many of your listeners who I would trust, are you know, higher up in their learning and awareness of what is going on? How many of them know everything?

Speaker 2

If that's a question? None, okay.

Speaker 3

So if we start with there's always something to learn, it starts with, well, where are you going to get that information? So about two and a half months ago, I was looking through some lawsuits that had been filed by various you know, attorneys general and people individuals or law firms and so forth, and I asked myself a rhetorical question. I said, you know, if I was going to bring a lawsuit to protect myself against this, what

evidence would I submit? And I went looking. I was like, well, you know, has anybody you know really scanned you know, the world of what's been going on for the last five years to collect all of not conspiracy, theory or speculation or opinion, but evidence? Okay? And then I asked myself a second rhetorical question, and I said, well, you know, if a friend of mine came up to me and said, Jim, I get it. You know, I understand the COVID nineteen

injections really don't help, you know, they're problematic. I understand that, But I don't really know these things. You know, how could I learn more? So I went and I looked at what was out there in the world, and I realized that nobody had kind of brought it all together

under one roof. So on one level, anybody who goes to not Safe and Not Effective dot com will have a library available to them of concrete evidence, published papers that are in peer reviewed journals, available through PubMed here in the United States. You know, data from the studies that were done, you know, government documents, bear's reports, all all these many things. You know, information specifically about New

Zealand the details there. I'm actually going to be publishing a page tomorrow, I believe in maybe the next day Saturday. I'm different for New Zealand because of the time it changes. I'm in California that talks about you know, the massive numbers of deaths that were reported, you know through American veyers of people who died in New Zealand and all around the world. That really should be seen as undeniable evidence.

But if you're ignorant, and I pronounced that word differently, if you're ignorant of the facts, and if you want to just continue on in your belief whatever your beliefs may be, you're going to have a difficult time going forward in life because the facts don't match the claims that have been made by companies and public health officials and so forth. And their only answer to it is to ignore. They are ignorant of the facts. They don't want to face the facts. It's not that they're stupid.

It's worse than that. You know, if you're unaware of something, you know that's forgivable. None of us know everything. But once you know and you choose to look the other way, you are ignorant. And ignorance of the law is no excuse. Ignorance of these facts is not a valid excuse. And all I've done really is put my personal filing cabinet, if you will, I broke it down into twenty six chapters, and so anybody who goes to not Safe and Noneffective dot com can have access to the research that I've

done I claim no copyright on it. You know, I encourage people copy it, print it, you know, mirror it. If you have any type of online presence, please use it however you want. I claim no ownership over any of it. It's meant to be an asset. As you said, I refer to it as a resource center. Go learn and go share that information with people who want to learn. People who don't want to learn that they won't even be able to look at it. They don't want to know.

But there are people who do want to know. And let me tell you, in the process of researching this over the past years, but certainly in the last couple of months, very intensely, there's a lot of things that I learned that are just, you know, mind boggling. Like you know, Pfizer lied in the studies. They hid deaths due to the or that were associated with the treatment group in their vaccine trials, and they made it look like they were saving lives when in fact more people

who got the job died than got the placebo. Now, they hid that data and they wanted to continue hiding it for seventy five years. But it's been exposed in the United States. It's very confusing, but at the moment, six months old children, according to the CDC schedule should receive three jabs of the COVID injections, not because they

aren't approved, but they're still under emergency use authorization. And if those children are deemed to be immunocompromised, they should get another job every two months, or they could get another job based on their doctor's recommendation every two months. Ongoing. Now, when you look at the studies for pregnant women, there are well over a one thousand reports and theirs. On the same day that a woman got the COVID nineteen vaccine, over a thousand reports that they had a miscarriage and

lost their unborn child. This is of such epic horror proportions. It boggles the mind that anybody who sees this information can continue to be ignorant of it. But the problem

is most people don't know. They just don't know the extent of the horror because the media has been hiding it and misrepresenting it in a disinformation campaign that they were paid billions of dollars to participate in by the government who's working on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies because in the United States, the FDA receives more than half

of its income from the pharmaceutical companies. What we're dealing with is classic fascism, where government and corporations are working together, along with the media and all kinds of foundations and non government organizations to lie to people to degrade your health so that you become even better customers of the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex.

Speaker 2

A lot of people who are listening to this who have not yet taken some of it on board, likely to think why would a company, a huge company what to follow this path that not just you, but many many medical people and people with qualifications hither thither and yon, including economists, have pointed out the falsehoods, the fakeries, and the corruption that many of us accept has taken place.

And the place you'd start, from my perspective, if you wanted to establish that firmly, would be with one Fauci.

He is a leading life in all of the above. Now, if you are uneducated in any of this area, and you are either used to going to your doctor for whatever, or even if you go for the very first time in your life understanding any alternative other than the authority of these people and of that that's conveyed by the media is something you just have to accept because you don't know any better, and you've been told that if you don't do this, this is going to happen, or

that might happen. You've got no choice, really, have you at that particular point of time.

Speaker 3

Oh well, I will disagree. I thought you mindly with. You know, everyone always has a choice, but there are consequences of those choices. And so while fauci is you know, certainly, uh, I'll just say he has been or he had been doing his you know, pseudo retired at the moment you go back forty years to see the evil that he's been involved in. He actually was not in the structure you know that authorized these horrors. You know, he was

involved with what he did. But one of the problems is that people need to push back at the appropriate point,

in the appropriate way, with the appropriate tools. And so if the person that you have chosen to take health advice from, and you know, it's totally valid to admit that you don't know everything and it's good to get advice from someone, if that person refuses to look at the evidence that is readily available on Not Safe and Not Effective dot com in regards to the COVID nineteen injections.

If they refuse to look at I kid you not literally thousands of peer reviewed published papers that are are case studies of the harm that has been caused, and you know, scientific research into the simple concept that is easily easily seen in just one histopathology slide from an autopsy where if you've ever looked at a anatomy book, you may have seen a microscopic photo of muscle tissue. Okay, you might think of the elongated cells that enable your

muscles to contract and relaxed and so forth. Well, when you see the slide of the tissue from a person who died and the pathologists who who did the autopsy determined that it was due to the COVID nineteen vaccine, and you see the results by design, okay, the jabs are designed. Two they call it lipofection. Okay. They take the mRNA that is the blueprint for the spike protein.

Now it's not the identical spike protein. It has been manipulated, it's not ever occurred in nature, and it's very very different, and they wrap it up in a essentially a bubble of man made fats that in and of themselves have not been studied for carcinogenesy and toxicity, but it lipoffects, meaning the one bubble of fat that they've injected into a person merges with the fat layer that makes up the membrane of cells throughout the body, so that the

cell can start making this toxic, toxic protein, so that the immune system identifies it and destroys it. You can see in the slides where the muscle tissue, whether it's in your arm, or in the heart or somewhere else, has just been liquefied. It's just been blown to smithereens. Think of what photographs you may have seen of Gauza or any other horrifically war torn area where it's just devastation.

What we're talking about is microscopic devastation of tissue throughout the body muscle, heart, lung, brain, liver, kidney, wherever these nanoparticles may have LiPo affected a cell throughout your body, you know, through your arterial structure, your capillaries, your veins, your arteries, your aorda, your heart, and it's just been liquefied by your immune system who destroyed it because it identified that those cells were infected and were manufacturing proteins

that were not part of you, were not supposed to be there. And then if the person survives that, it gets laid over with a fibrous mesh, which essentially is scar tissue. So the design of these products is to go everywhere in the person's body, destroy it on a microscopic level, or actually I should say encourage it to destroy itself by LiPo affecting it with you know, something that will make it create a toxic proteins. It needs

to be destroyed and then scarred over. And then when the body is making antibodies to these proteins and it subsides a little bit, they tell you to go get a booster and go do it all over again. Go kill yourself with another billion more cuts. I truly believe that the vast majority of people around the world cannot visualize in their mind what these jabs are designed to do.

Speaker 4

Now.

Speaker 3

I don't know if I've painted a good enough picture, okay, but if you could imagine a little tiny bubble of fat being injected into somebody's arm and it floats into their brain or their heart or their lungs, or their liver, or wherever bone marrow, you know, every place you can imagine ovaries, testes, and so forth, causes a cell to start making a toxic protein, so that the immune system is then you know, its job is to then destroy

that aberant cell. You're dealing with warfare on a microscopic level, where the destruction could result in any ailment possible, and sometimes it happens very rapidly, So people put two and two together. But what it's really designed to do is

to turn the person into a customer. What is that person going to do when you know, part of their brain, or their liver, or their thyroid, or their kidneys or spleen or anything else start to malfunction, They're going to go right back into the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex and seek help from the people who caused the problem. Do you think any doctor who pushed their patient to get the JAB is going to allow themselves mentally to

recognize that they caused this problem? You know, that could be anything out of seventy five thousand ICD ten codes. Now, let me ask a rhetorical question. I know it's not a fair question. I would be shocked if you, if you knew the answer. Does anybody know the ICD ten code for harm caused by a COVID nineteen vaccine? There is such a code. The CDC actually published it before the WHO did. It's you, it's you twelve point nine.

Do you think your doctor is intimately familiar with ICD ten code you twelve point nine?

Speaker 2

That's you. You, you the letter, not the word you.

Speaker 3

The letter twelve point nine. That is what the WHO has put into the International Classification of Disease coding structure for billing and record keeping and all that sort of thing. This showed up in German data where after the jobs were rolled out on insurance, information was revealed and hundreds of thousands of people were treated and the code that was given was UCD twelve point nine, which was correct

and appropriate. These people were treated for, you know, adverse events of the job because you know, at least in this situation, they were properly described as having suffering from

side effects of the job. It was that obvious. But you know, I would venture to guess that if anybody on this call, when they talked to a healthcare professional, or they talked to their friends and family, or they talked to any government health related anybody and ask them, do you know the ICD ten code that should be put on a person's medical records if they were harmed

from the COVID nineteen injections. If they don't know that that's the code, then they get to not use it, and then the data never shows that there's any problem because everybody is being misdiagnosed. And so the problem is one of data manipulation out of information that people don't

want to let out. And if your doctor doesn't even know that there's a category when you go and say, hey, I think this was because of the jabber or somebody else does, they don't even know how to classify it, and they're never going to classify it because they were the ones who caused it. And so the issue starts with knowledge. The vast majority of people don't know what they don't know, and I certainly do not know everything.

I try to learn something new every day, and if anybody ever tells me that I'm wrong about something, that's a blessed day. You know, if you can show me that I'm wrong about something, you're my best buddy. But the problem is the people in authority believe that they know everything, and they refuse to actually look at the evidence to the contrary, and that is at the root.

Speaker 2

Of the problem, and that's at the root of many problems, including climate change and other matters. There's a couple of other things I want to query you on. I want your opinion on gene technology. The New Zealand government at the moment is looking to pass the Gene Technology Bill, and you understand what that means. If you think it's necessary to describe what it means, then go for it.

But what I'm interested to know is what your reaction to the passing of that bill, what it might mean as an outcome.

Speaker 3

Well, you know, I will tie this in to what I can speak very clearly about in regards to the WHO, and tied into that. On June first, twenty twenty four, even when people were celebrating a false victory, the WHO and all of the member nations adopted amendment to the International Health Regulations. And part of what's in that is they defined what would now be known if these are allowed to go into effect, because they can still be rejected.

There's a period of time that every nation can reject the amendments that were adopted in June first of twenty twenty four, and New Zealand was one of only four countries that rejected the amendments that were adopted in twenty twenty two. So good on you go, do it can, Okay. What they put in place was that pandemic related products were defined in the International Health Regulations and it was clearly, you know, only pharmaceutical products, including gene and cell based therapies.

It did not include vitamins and minerals and herbs and homeopathic remedies or any such thing. So by agreement, if it's allowed to stand now, please understand that every nation can reject those amendments. We have until July to make that happen. But I would like to promote a referendum

that petition signatures are currently being sought. If anybody goes to who knows meaning who knows dot co dot NZ as you might say, and Z who knows dot co dot NZ get involved with exiting the WHO, because those international regulations make it so that the only response that is recognized by the WHO includes cell and gene based therapies. Now, the jabs that have been injected into billions of people

around the world. In my opinion my analysis, and I think I have evidence to back it up, were clearly not vaccines. They were genetic techniques, if you will, and they've turned into what I think is an immuno imbalancing therapy. They are not like people think of vaccine should be, which is you get a little bit of the problem that you might run into in the future to alert your body to some pathogen, and then your body has seen it once, so if it ever sees it again,

it deals with it better. Well, the way they design these actually destroys your full bodied immune response. You only see a made up protein that's not ever found in nature, and it actually triggers your immune system to respond inappropriately. I mean, the insanity behind the design of this can only be described as evil. And so what people are finding is that if they get injected, their immune system

gets imbalanced. They're actually more likely to have the very problem that they were told the injection would help prevent. And so this is a wide open field that they are trying to craft into to legislation. And you know, very much like the guidelines that New Zealand published almost

a year ago now for their pandemic response plan. People need to pay attention, and so I would encourage everybody to go to who knows, dot co, dot NZ because the answer as far as the WHO is concerned, is to put them in the rearview mirror and have the leadership realize that what the WHO really is is not an organization that is designed to help improve your health. They are the marketing and promotion arm for big pharma, and what they're trying to do with these negotiations is

not prevent the next pandemic. They want billions of dollars to flow through the WHO, and they want to be in charge of the distribution and logistics network for unlimited injections because they believe in their mind that these products work to your benefit, but they actually work to your detriment. And you know, this isn't a set of negotiations to improve your health. It's a set of negotiations, if you really read them, to redistribute wealth away from you towards

them and their cronies in the industry. And so you know, I can't even begin to say how I feel that everybody needs to get much more clear on the evidence of what is really happening. We are victimized by misinformation that comes from our own side, and we are victimized by people in positions of perceived authority who refuse to look at the evidence that would actually implicate them in

massive crimes against humanity. So it starts with knowledge, It starts with an awareness, and all I try to do is condense that information as much as possible so that the average person can look at this and go, this is this is insane. This has to stop. Why are we sticking three injections into six month old babies for an ailment that they would never have, It would not cause them any problems? Who is responsible for this kind

of thing? They need to be held accountable and this has to stop, and it has to stop now.

Speaker 2

It's easy to say, not so easy to fulfill.

Speaker 3

Understood. Understood, it starts, It starts with, you know, one step of collecting the evidence, not a opinion. You asked me for my opinion, and I certainly have them, but I generally try to answer that type of question with

it's not my opinion, here's the evidence. And so anybody who goes, you know, to not say for non effective dot com, you'll find thousands of peer reviewed published papers that are evidence that your doctor and your public health official are choosing to be ignorant of and you have to take forth and put the effort into saying, look, this is not my opinion, and your opinion doesn't count. And in the hierarchy of evidence, in terms of scientific validity,

opinions don't mean a darn thing. And you know, faced with the ample evidence that they refuse to consider, you have to look in the mirror and ask yourself, why in the world would you ever trust anybody in that system. You need to get out of that system. You need to stop going to medical doctors to receive poisonous pills and injections, and you know, find how it's more appropriate to treat yourself as unique man, woman, or child, because

that's not what they do. They diagnose you and put you in a cubby hole and follow a protocol that's designed to turn healthy people into lifelong patients.

Speaker 2

The who is no Longer Fit for Purpose title of an article written by relish the curve. You agree or disagree?

Speaker 3

Oh? Absolutely? I mean what is their purpose? They have been functioning for the last twenty years, as you know, the mouthpiece for vaccines, and when you understand where their money comes from and how it is directed through the organization they are basically you know, this is one way of looking at it. They're just hired help. They're just contracted to do a job. If the billing and the Gates Foundation donates, you know, half a billion dollars and they say, well, we want you to you know, uh,

put these vaccines in children all throughout Africa. That's what the who works on doesn't really mean that they're trying to improve the health of people. And all of their statistics show that the health of the people that they're supposedly helping is you know, being degraded. But their money comes with strings attached, and so you know that alone is you know, evidence of corruption and you know fit

for purpose. You know, if the purpose is to improve the health of the world's population, they're failing miserably, and their own data shows exactly that.

Speaker 2

The interesting thing, I suppose, well, it's not interesting, it's just obvious. The obvious thing is that there are so many people now of good qualification, but more importantly, good intent, who are lining up behind that statement. I don't mean literally that statement literally, but with that approach, and would you this gives me the chance, right at the end here to ask a question, because you just raised them Bill Gates. If I were to say that Bill Gates is evil, you'd say.

Speaker 3

I am certainly not going to stand in his defense. Okay, But Bill Gates is so well protected and so distant from you how this all actually works. What I encourage people to do is do what you can with the people who are going to actually directly impact your life. Bill Gates is not going to convince your child to get a vaccine or other treatments. Okay, your local doctor, your local police officer, your local you know, businessman, merchant, friends, family, whatever.

The rubber hits the road. Not because Bill Gates knocks on your door and has some goon who wants to inject you. Is because it's your local officials who listen to authority that has an agenda that is not for your benefit. So I generally stay away from discussions of people like Fauci and Bill Gates, because what really is the issue is your relationship with your family, your friends, your neighbors, people you work with, people you may go to school with, or or you know anyone at whatever church,

or you know faith you have. We all can help educate everyone around us, because it's the people closest to you that just violated you over the last five years. And they do it because they, you know, say, oh, well this authority or that authority said so. And if they're going to continue to blindly obey lies, the problem is going to continue. My job is to try to put evidence and make it available to people so that they can then learn enough to have a discussion with somebody,

and not try to convince them. Find the people who want to learn and help them learn. The people who don't want to know, You have to watch out for them in every way, shape or form, whether they're a doctor, a lawyer, a politician, or your spouse or your children or your neighbor. People who are unwilling to learn are the problem.

Speaker 2

So I have whenever I say this is the final question, I invariably come up with tools read more. So I've got I've got two final questions. If you had a heart attack today, what would you do.

Speaker 3

I don't plan on having a heart attack. I don't entertain the notion. You know, if there are many things I don't get into describing health treatments. Okay, when you understand that the term heart attack is not as properly defined as you might think it is, and that the statistics around all of that are so broken. Obviously, you know when it's a person's time to it's their time to die, and so I have written extensively on quite

a lot of things. The issue really is to understand that if that is your concern, if you have a problem that you're concerned about, you better learn about it in advance. And so, yes, anybody can have an accident, anybody can have a health issue. That's an explanation that requires not an hour long program or a quick one

word answer. What would you do? You have to change how you think about the entire thing so that you avoid the problems, not just with drugs or chemicals or herbs or vitamins or minerals, but in the manner in which you understand the holistic nature that gets you there

in the first place. Now, I know some people may say, oh, you know, he's avoiding the Well, the question is what is it that you're doing on a daily basis to improve your health optimize your health so that something like those types of problems is such a remote, distant possibility you don't even entertain the idea The problem is we're taught oh this happened to you randomly, you know, out of thin air, nothing you could do about it. What drug are you going to take or what orb are

you going to apply that idea? The question is the wrong question. The right question is how do we build a structure to teach people how to optimize their health so that they're living vibrantly. And that's a you know, happy to talk to you for days about that one.

Speaker 2

Very good. So the final question is this. We had this discussion before we rolled, and I asked you this question, Joel, now asking ask you again, albeit that I know the answer. What are your qualifications? Oh?

Speaker 3

I have absolutely none. I went to school back in the late seventies and early eighties. I studied computer science before people had computers. I dropped out of an Ivy League school because I realized I was being lied to. I spent fifteen years working as a carpenter of renovating old homes in New England. Moved out to California, I think about twenty eight years ago now, and managed a couple of mom and pop urb and nutrition stores for

about fifteen years. Wrote a couple of books related to that, but I learned that the types of things that people can do to heal and heal themselves if they get out of balance or maintained on so that they don't become ill, are so vast. It's astonishing that anybody would ever have their first response, Oh, I got to ask my doctor. Okay, I got to go to the pharmacy and take a drug or get a surgery or whatever. I have seen miracles happen under my own hands and

done by other people as well. It makes your medical professional look like a butcher when you understand, you know, the Star Trek level technology that's out there that you're not being told exists. I should have said it a minute ago. I have another domain that people can go to to get additional information. If you go to the Complete Guide to Health dot com The Complete Guide to Health dot Com, you'll get deeper insight into what we're

talking about here. Going to a doctor to get a poison, either to swallow or be injected, maybe in certain circumstances when you are so far out of balance, having a poison to distract your body from the problem at hand might be helpful. But if you've allowed yourself to get there, you've already made so many mistakes.

Speaker 2

It's mind log way ed. It's been fascinating talking with you.

Speaker 3

I have to say, well, thank you, thank you for having me, and look forward to doing it again. One last thing that I always do is I give everyone my phone number. I'm in California, so you may have to use you know, appropriate country code, or you can connect with me on signal or telegram or WhatsApp or text message or whatever. But here in the United States, in California, my phone number is three one zero six

one nine three zero five to five. If you have any questions, if I can help in any way, and even better, if you think I'm wrong and you want to help me learn something new, you mean to call anytime three one zero six one nine three zero five five. Thank you.

Speaker 2

So it's plus one three one zero six one nine three zero double five, Thank you very much. Leverrix is an antihistamine made in Switzerland to the highest quality. Leverrix relieves hay fever and skin allergies or itchy skin. It's a dual action antihistamine and has a unique nasal decongestent action. It's fast acting for fast relief, and it works in under an hour and lasts for over twenty four hours. Lebrix is a tiny tablet that unblocks the nose, deals

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Thank you.

Speaker 4

Ready to go.

Speaker 2

The very strong rumor going around though that you're tired.

Speaker 4

Well, I don't know where that room has come from. I'm perky, is anything.

Speaker 2

I think it's a tribal thing. Anyway, if you're so perky, go for your life.

Speaker 4

Everybody's tired at the moment. Leydon Paul says. George Friedman has consistently risen above the noise of legacy media sensationalism in his forecasting business. He and the excellent team at Geopolitical futures and his past creation of stratfor have provided me with the best analysis of the geopol called Big Picture bar none for many years. Why do I regularly parrot this point in my communications with you? My simple answer is that George and co. Have been correct almost always.

Thanks again Layton for introducing me to him. Another worthy commentator who regularly appears on the podcast as Murial Newman. She has a deep understanding of threats to democracy that are entrenched in New Zealand's domestic political machinations. If you have a child attending a university in New Zealand, I encourage you to direct said child to listen to podcast to seventy two. Good luck with that, says I from experience, and that was from Paul Later.

Speaker 2

Well appreciate it greatly. Thank you. This one is slightly dated. It's sort of out of place now, but I am going to read it for a reason. Steve. Steve wrote, I'm hoping you can't wait to get back on air and give us your two cents worth. Hard to believe this is written on five for February. Hard to believe that so much good in Brackets has happened over the last two or three weeks unbelievable talk about a new broom. It's more like a pioneer approach, slash and burn and replant.

I am sure that most of your audience is waiting breathlessly for the latent take, mainly because I suspect that you're as breathless as the rest of us. Happy New Year and cheers. I afflicted him a note at the time, and I said, I think you'll be pretty pleased with the interview in the first which was a couple of days after this, after he wrote this with mister Jones, I haven't had a reply. I have no idea whether RE enjoyed it or not.

Speaker 4

Leydon pat says, I would like to say how much I enjoyed your talk with Dr Muriel Newman. Enjoyed may not be the right adjective, as her content is frightening. I subscribed to her weekly emails, but to hear her explaining everything as she did on your show was even more enlightening. What is wrong with our government that they don't stand up to the Supreme Court judges on such critical matters. I agree Luxon has been weak, and it's

mainly the likes of Peters and Shane Jones that show responsibility. Incidentally, I enjoyed your podcast with Shane Jones. His command of English is outstanding and his desire to dig in mine would help us get the country out of the mess we're in. As Dr Muriel said, Lord help us of the other mob get him keep up the good work. And that's from Patrick.

Speaker 2

Now from John, he says, I'm glad you're back. But what a couple of contrasts. Shane Jones full of hype and great ideas, then Muriel Newman, sounding as jolly as an undertaker. Now I mention of why we can the Privy Council. It started when Margaret Wilson appeared there for the Crown. It was a mary Land's case. One of their lordships questioned the Mary Claimant Parties Council something like this, So if you think that you're a Mary, you can

be a Mary, Yes, your lordship. And if you are a Mary, you can claim any land that could belong to Mary. Yes, your Lordship, then I'm a Mariy was the best and most ominous response, to which Margaret Wilson sat stony faced, with no input into the humor around her. That case was understandably lost by the claimants immediately on her return, steps were taken to commence the process to deprive us of the greatest legal minds in the world.

And there you have it. Regards John John, I didn't I was completely unaware of what you tell us with regard to the interchange, and I'd love to know your source. In the meantime, I have to stand uncommitted as to its accuracy, not because I don't believe you, but because I haven't seen any evidence. So if you can source me, I'd be very appreciative of it. In fact, I'd like to read more about it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Laden Alan writes to you and lets you know that two of his books are back on Amazon, and I guess you will have read that, And then he goes on to say, as the US have now removed itself from the Paris Accord, rendering sixty plus percent of all greenhouse gas mitten nations for instance China, Russia, India, and

now the USA canceled from that original arrangement. I think it might be relevant for you to remind your listeners of this reality and that they can get understandable information of just why that void with the Paris Accord has occurred. For instance, Earth's atmosphere is saturated with greenhouse gases, so nothing is achieved by the emissions targets set by that international accord for twenty thirty five and twenty fifty.

Speaker 5

And Alan goes on to you a bit more personal stuff. So that's from.

Speaker 2

Allan Trotter, one of the three authors of a couple of very good books. I received this from Chris from Canberra. I enjoy getting mailed from Canberra. I spent two years of my life there, felt like ten, but I believe it's much better than now. In fact, we must go visit Canberra sometime, must we? Well, I could show you

were about my first house or something along fascinating. Further to my email on the twenty seventh of February, I suggest you read Chris Alman's article in the Weekend Australian for a far bleaker picture of Australia's defense pasture than the one I presented in my email. Chris has got a bit of inside the information. I actually responded to him and said, thanks Chris, I read it this morning,

so this was Saturday. I read it this morning. Dire Straits wasn't just a band cute the two countries are running a parallel. When you take it into account the size in the population et tetra, the two countries are running pretty much a parallel. In taking a dive.

Speaker 4

Layton Jin says, I watched the heated exchange between Trump and Zelensky in the Oval Office, which was surprisingly entertaining, to say the least. As the news and online chatter lit up on the Internet, I began to realize that first world Western audiences tend to misunderstand both Trump and Zolensky because they both shatter our expectations of them two

understand them. We need to stop seeing these two as typical politicians and start looking at them as willing actors arising from the brokenness of the people that they govern. George Friedman's analysis that Trump has a very high IQ and a damaged personality is equally applicable to Zelensky. You don't get through Hollywood without some form of deranged personality. Surprisingly, Trump and Zelensky are more alike than most people.

Speaker 2

Would like to admit.

Speaker 4

Firstly, both of them were successful actors. Trump owned his acting skills as The Boss and his hit TV show The Apprentice, while Zelensky acted as the Ukrainian Prime minister in the hit Ukrainian TV series Servants of the People. Secondly, both of them are cunning negotiators. Trump shrewdly negotiated billion dollar deals for his building empire, while Zolensky charmed billions

off the clueless Biden administration. Thirdly, they both achieved results through unpredictability, Trump's highly Trump's highly publicized clash with Zelenski achieved his greater goal of saving American dollars by getting the Europeans to pay for their own and Ukraine's military defenses. Zelensky used his very same clash with Trump to achieve his greater goal of obtaining billions from Europe. We are not watching two politicians duking it out. We are watching

two actors attempting to outperform each other. My worry that countries like China, North Korea and Iraq handing out the popcorn while we remain distracted.

Speaker 2

That's from Jim and following that very soon after, just after I sent my email to you, which features the well articulated contrarian view of James Allen on the Russia Ukraine War. I feel that we can't believe most things we read or here nowadays, so a lot of mainstream media are spreading lies, rumors, and opinions rather than facts. Anyway, I have this very long letter that was left over from last week because I couldn't read it, and I now have it in readable form, and so I'm going

to pass it on. This is about the state of New Zealand. It's interesting. Make sure you listen. Coming up next, missus producer, will see you next week.

Speaker 5

Thanks lady.

Speaker 2

Now, this is the letter that I didn't read last week because I couldn't. I can't describe to you what the page looked like when I printed it. It's a long letter, and he apologizes for it. But the reason I want to read it is because I'm always interested in other people's opinions, other people specifically who have never lived here all their life like I haven't, people who have come from other places, or have been out of the country a long time, or different experiences, and their

reaction to New Zealand today. And that's exactly what this letter provides. In redoing it into a legible presentation, because the first one I couldn't read. He's done a very good job, double spaced a different type and starts this way, oh, and requests that I don't mention his name. I don't know why, but I'll honor the request. Sorry, this is a bit long, and I'm not very good at writing, so it may seem like a bit of a ramble.

I enjoy listening to you every week, and even though sometimes I feel more depressed about our situation than before, depending who you are talking to. On the face of it, New Zealand has a lot going for it. It has a good climate on the whole. People are friendly. The population is small and spread out, meaning it's easy to get away from it all. We have beaches and mountains and national parks that people come from all over the

world to see. It's a place where you can almost take yourself back in time for a slower pace of life, with all the same modern convenience as the rest of the world has at a slower pace. What's not to like? I came to New Zealand in nineteen ninety five, age sixteen, from the UK when my family moved out here. At that age, I was starting to see the world around me and could tell the differences between the two places.

After being here a few months, it started to become clear to me that New Zealand had a big problem. It's a country with the population of a medium sized city that acts like it has ten times the population. Our politicians continue to play on this, with grand plans being touted constantly but never coming to fruition. The short election cycle, whilst meaning we can get rid of a bad government after three years, seems fine in theory, but it also means that in a three year term there

is really only one year to make anything happen. The first year is spent getting a handle on the issues as they see it once they get hold of the books. The second year is when things can actually be done, but the third year everything goes into election mode. In reality, nothing meaningful can get off the ground in one year, meaning that most of the time they're just playing around

at the edges and nothing meaningful ever gets done. The majority of what has been done over the last thirty years has been social engineering and over spending, particularly by labor led governments. There is a reluctance, especially from national led governments, to wind back any of the social engineering programs. The population gets used to having a government that throws money around. Taking money from people is not a vote winner,

particularly when it's marketed as free. Working for families and other. Tax credits are the perfect example of this. Instead of giving people their tax money back, how about not taking it off them in the first place. These schemes increase permanent Wellington, our deep state. The system is designed intentionally to grow like a cancer. Every scheme needs more administration, more people, and more money. We continue to pour money

into Wellington with nothing to show for it. The priority of our government, regardless of which party leads it should be the taxpayer. We continue pouring money into social life and environmental issues at the behest of the un which we really cannot afford. This money goes offshore and does not benefit the population of New Zealand. A lot of the population are not educated enough to see that they are being sucked dry by the system. Now this boils

down to education and media. At school and university, people are told what to think, not how to think, and our legacy media reinforces this twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. It's hard to turn this around. It has taken forty or fifty years to get to this point. It'll take at least that for the population to develop another point of view, our population is spread out, meaning that we need more hospitals, schools, roads, power lines,

water pipes, etc. Per person than other places. As a result of this, we've ended up with very high rates of taxation to pay for our infrastructure, yet our infrastructure is still years behind. There was next to no pre planning done to extend our infrastructure, and as the population increased, the land for infrastructure had houses built of it. Any infrastructure we now need to build becomes expensive and time consuming.

Nobody wants to give up their house or have things built in their backyard, and the process gets held up for years. And the process gets held up for years in consenting and litigation, increasing the costs exponentially. The cheapest time to build is now, always has been, always will be. Any delay adds costs. This is before we get to the wastage of consultants and communications for projects that ultimately

never go ahead. We have a lack of skilled people to build and manage our infrastructure, which is a failure of our education system, so we import people to do these jobs. These people add to the population and put more pressure on our infrastructure. The answer for this should be to fix our system to produce our own people, but instead we just import them because it's easier and

get further behind with our infrastructure. We're sitting on plenty of natural resources, but we're not getting them out of the ground. We don't even need to do this ourselves. The rights to these can be sold off for a royalty, giving us access to the resource and money. Importing oil, gas and coal when we have plenty of it is lunacy. We should be able to generate enough powder to never have to worry, but I can't record a new power

station coming online for the past thirty years. We all know that another drain on our taxpayers is the Mari issue. This has been talked about at length since forever. Everyone knows the issues and there's no point dredging them up. But needless to say, the tap needs to be turned off before we end up in the same state South Africa finds itself in. Of course, there is more, but all of this leads to one thing, a constantly increasing

cost of living. We're always hearing about having a low wage economy and comparing us to Australia, but it's more complicated than that. We rely heavily on imported goods, through our modern lifestyle. Due to our location and small market, shipping costs make up a larger percentage of the product value than they would in Australia. Goods that we manufacturer are expensive due to labor and energy costs. Materials for goods we manufacturer are also imported and more expensive than

they would be else elsewhere. The more we pay people to produce products locally, the more expensive they'll be, and the end user is the one that pays, increasing the cost of living and perpetuating the cycle. This leads to the final question, is there a way out of this? To me? Says the author, There is no political will to change the status grow. The politicians and bureaucrats around them are doing just fine and have no reason to push for change. There is no alternative politician, Alah Donald

Trump who can shake up our system. Is there any hope? Maybe the tide is turning in the USA, but it'll take more than four years of Trump. The biggest hope I have for the Trump administration is that JD. Vance will become the forty eighth president and continue for another eight years. Then maybe some changes will stick. Whatever happens in America will ultimately happen in the rest of the West. The upcoming elections in Germany and Canada will be interesting

and will point to where the world is headed. As ever, it will probably take another ten to twenty years before things reach New Zealand. The only thing that will speed it up will be Australia turning. That's if there is any one productive left in New Zealand by then. Well, although it was where reading and I'd be interested in your opinion on things that were said in that letter, but that will take us out for podcast number two

hundred and seventy four. If you'd like to correspond with us Latent at newstalksib dot co dot nz or Carolyn at newstalksib dot co dot nz. As always, we love getting your getting email, so I will leave you in a world of some turmoil at the moment. Watch this space carefully. We'll be back with two seventy five in a few days of course. Until then, as always, thank you for listening and we shall talk soon.

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