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LH #111 Is D.E.I. Now D.O.A.? with Amri B. Johnson

Mar 17, 202552 minSeason 12Ep. 111
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The Battle To Keep Inclusion on the Organizational Agenda.

Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (D.E.I.) under existential threat? With political shifts and corporate cutbacks, is this the end of D.E.I. as we know it—or just a moment of transformation?

In this episode, John Helmer speaks with Amri B. Johnson, author of Reconstructing Inclusion and CEO of Inclusion Wins, about the evolving landscape of D.E.I. in the workplace. They discuss whether D.E.I. is fundamentally flawed, if it will persist under different branding, and how organizations should adapt to changing times.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 – Start

01:09 – Intro

04:36 – Does he still have a job?

11:30 – Is the language of D.E.I. one of the problems with it?

22:19 – Will D.E.I. persist, but change its name and go underground?

25:40 – How does he respond to the studies that show D.E.I. training doesn’t work?

30:26 – Is D.E.I. just ‘woke capital’ at work?

51:41 – End

 

Connect with Amri B. Johnson:

Website: Inclusion Wins

LinkedIn: Amri B. Johnson’s Profile

Twitter: @amribjohnson

 

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Website: learninghackpodcast.com

LinkedIn: John Helmer

X (Twitter): @johnhelmer

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