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The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfareblog.com.

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Episodes

Lawfare Daily: DHS Under Secretary Robert Silvers on the CSRB's Report on the Summer 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online Intrusion

In March, the Cyber Safety Review Board issued a  report  examining the Summer 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online Intrusion. Stephanie Pell, Senior Editor at  Lawfare,  sat down with Robert Silvers, Under Secretary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security and Chair of the Cyber Safety Review Board to discuss the report. They talked about the Board’s determination that the intrusion was preventable and should never have occurred, Microsoft’s response to the report, and th...

May 22, 202438 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 21, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 21. Katherine Pompillo, an associate editor of Lawfare, sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, Quinta Jurecic, and Tyler McBrien to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 22, 202429 min

Chatter: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism, with Tim Alberta

Tim Alberta is an American journalist and author, and son of an evangelical pastor. Following his father’s death in 2019, Alberta began a four year journey, talking to American evangelicals ranging from megachurch pastors who preach to thousands to pastors at churches with a few dozen congregants to understand the schism occurring in the American evangelical community. His book “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism,” puts American evangelicalism und...

May 21, 202457 min

Lawfare Daily: Chinese Property Ownership and National Security

Across the country, state lawmakers are joining the effort to address the perceived national security threat from China by passing a number of measures attempting to curb Chinese influences in their states. One such effort in Florida prevents Chinese citizens from owning property in the state. Lawfare ’s Associate Editor Hyemin Han spoke with Matthew Erie, Associate Professor at the University of Oxford, about what makes the Florida law and the ongoing litigation challenging it particularly nota...

May 21, 202441 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 20, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 20. Roger Parloff sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, Quinta Jurecic, and Tyler McBrien to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 21, 202439 min

Lawfare Daily: Peter Salib on AI Self-Improvement

In foundational accounts of AI risk, the prospect of AI self-improvement looms large. The idea is simple. For any capable, goal-seeking system, the system’s goal will be more readily achieved if the system first makes itself even more capable. Having become somewhat more capable, the system will be able to improve itself again. And so on, possibly generating a rapid explosion of AI capabilities, resulting in systems that humans cannot hope to control. Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor of Law...

May 20, 202447 min

Lawfare Archive: Jameel Jaffer on the 'The Drone Memos'

From January 14, 2017: At this week's Hoover Book Soiree, Jack Goldsmith interviewed Jameel Jaffer about his new book,  The Drone Memos: Targeted Killing, Secrecy, and the Law . It's a wide-ranging discussion about targeted killing and its legality, and of Jaffer's work at the ACLU—where he ran national security litigation until recently—in holding the government to account for its practices. And it includes a fascinating debate between him and Jack about whether, in that role, he won more ...

May 19, 202451 min

Lawfare Archive: Alex Stamos on Fighting Election Disinformation in Real Time

From August 20, 2020: This week on  Lawfare 's Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Alex Stamos, the director of the Stanford Internet Observatory and former chief security officer of Yahoo and Facebook. Alex has appeared on the podcast before, but this time, they discussed a new coalition he helped set up called the  Election Integrity Partnership —a coalition focused on detecting and mitigating attempts to limit voting or delegitimize...

May 18, 202456 min

Lawfare Daily: Pablo Chavez on Digital Solidarity

The recently released International Cyberspace and Digital Strategy focuses on building digital solidarity as an alternative to digital sovereignty policies. Lawfare 's Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, Eugenia Lostri, spoke with Pablo Chavez, Adjunct Senior Fellow with the Center for a New American Security’s Technology and National Security Program. Pablo first promoted the idea of digital solidarity in a Lawfare article in 2022. They talked about the range of policies that can fall under t...

May 17, 202448 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 16, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 16. Roger Parloff sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, and Tyler McBrien to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 17, 202431 min

Rational Security: The “Active Listening Noises” Edition

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett to go over the week’s big national security news, including: “Does NSM Stand for No Such Memo?” Last week, in a long-awaited report required by National Security Memorandum 20 that President Biden issued earlier this year, the Biden administration concluded that there were credible reasons to believe that Israel may well have violated international law and obstructed U.S.-backed humanitarian flows in its co...

May 16, 20241 hr 17 min

Lawfare Daily: Trump Trials and Tribulations Weekly Round-up (May 15, 2024)

This episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations,” was recorded on May 15 in front of a live audience on  YouTube  and Zoom. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes talked to Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff, Managing Editor Tyler McBrien, and Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent Anna Bower about the lack of action in Fulton County, the Southern District of Florida and D.C. They then took a deep dive into the New York City Trump trial and looked ahead to whether there are witn...

May 16, 20241 hr 2 min

Lawfare Daily: What Happened to the Fake Electors?

After the 2020 Presidential Election, a plan was hatched in seven swing states that had voted for Joe Biden. Lawsuits challenging the election outcomes in those states continued to fail, but this plan attempted to find another path to keep Trump in office—using the Electoral College process. The idea was to create slates of electors for Trump that would oppose the duly-elected Biden electors, and to send those slates of electors to DC to be counted on Jan. 6. Then, Vice President Mike Pence was ...

May 15, 202446 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 14, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 14 Roger Parloff sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, and Tyler McBrien to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 15, 202432 min

Chatter: Climate Migration with Gaia Vince

Migration has always been a part of humanity's story. It will continue to be so long after any of us now living are gone. Population shifts in the coming century, spurred by climate change, are on track to become more extreme than at any point in our history--with hundreds of millions, probably billions, of people on the move.  For this episode, David Priess spoke with Gaia Vince, self-described former scientists and author of the book  Nomad Century &nbsp...

May 14, 20241 hr 20 min

Lawfare Daily: Law Enforcement Hacking as a Tool Against Transnational Cyber Crime

The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reported that the United States lost  a record $12.5 billion  to various types of cyber crime in 2023. Law enforcement hacking is one tool increasingly used to combat transnational cyber crime. Stephanie Pell, Senior Editor at Lawfare , sat down with Gavin Wilde, Senior Fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Emma Landi, Research Assistant in the Technology and Inter...

May 14, 202445 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 13, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 13 Roger Parloff sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, and Tyler McBrien to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 14, 202429 min

Lawfare Daily: The U.S. International Cyberspace and Digital Policy Strategy with Adam Segal

On May 6, the U.S. State Department unveiled its U.S. International Cyberspace and Digital Policy Strategy . Lawfare 's Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, Eugenia Lostri, discussed the new strategy with Adam Segal, Senior Advisor in the Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy. They talked about how the strategy fits with other cyber actions from the Biden administration, what the principle of digital solidarity looks like in practice, and how to future-proof these initiatives.  To receive...

May 13, 202444 min

Lawfare Archive: A Band-Aid for a Bomber: Is Medical Assistance to Terrorists Protected Under IHL?

From September 12, 2015: On this week’s Lawfare Podcast, Benjamin Wittes sits down with Professor Gabriella Blum, professor at Harvard Law School, and Dustin Lewis, a senior researcher at Harvard Law Schools’ Program on International Law and Armed Conflict, to discuss their new report written with Naz Modirzadeh entitled  Medical Care in Armed Conflict: IHL and State Responses to Terrorism .  The conversation takes a look at whether we should consider medical care a form of illegitimat...

May 12, 202430 min

Lawfare Archive: After Trump, Episode 4: Prosecuting a President

From May 3, 2021: In the fourth episode of “After Trump,” the six-part limited podcast series based on the book, " After Trump: Reconstructing the Presidency ," by Bob Bauer and Jack Goldsmith, we explore how and when a president is held to account for wild and sometimes criminal behavior. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 11, 202438 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 10, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 10. Roger Parloff sat down with Benjamin Wittes, Anna Bower, and Business Insider's Jacob Shamsian to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 11, 202432 min

Lawfare Daily: David Pozen on ‘The Constitution of the War on Drugs’

David Pozen is the Charles Keller Beekman Professor of Law at Columbia Law School and the author of the new book , “The Constitution of the War on Drugs,” which examines the relationship between the Constitution and drug prohibitions. He joined Jack Goldsmith to talk about the constitutional history of the war on drugs and why the drug war was not curbed by constitutional doctrines about personal autonomy, limits on the federal government’s power, the Equal Protection Clause, or the prohibition ...

May 10, 202455 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 9, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 9. Roger Parloff sat down with Tyler McBrien, Benjamin Wittes, and Claire Meynial to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 10, 202430 min

Rational Security: The “B- B-Roll” Edition

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by Lawfare ’s Fellow in Technology Policy and Law Eugenia Lostri, to to hash through the week’s big national security news, including: “Digital Solid Parody.” The Biden administration is making major moves when it comes to emerging technologies, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken rolling out a new multilateral strategy for “digital solidarity” this week at the annual RSA cybersecurity conference, among other actions. What is new about what the B...

May 09, 20241 hr 17 min

Lawfare Daily: Trump Trials and Tribulations Weekly Round-up (May 8, 2024)

This episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations,” was recorded on May 8 in front of a live audience on  YouTube  and Zoom.  Lawfare  Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes talked to  Lawfare  Senior Editor Roger Parloff, Managing Editor Tyler McBrien, and Legal Fellow and Courts Correspondent Anna Bower about Judge Cannon’s order suspending the trial start date of May 20 in the classified documents case, the Georgia Court of Appeals decision to hear former President ...

May 09, 20241 hr 11 min

Lawfare Daily: Juliette Kayyem on the New Critical Infrastructure Memo

The White House on April 30 released a “ National Security Memorandum on Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience .” According to the White House, the memo marks the beginning of a new comprehensive initiative to safeguard U.S. infrastructure against current threats and those on the horizon. The Department of Homeland Security is tasked with leading this effort—through coordination with other federal agencies, states and localities, and private-sector actors. Lawfare  Research Fellow...

May 08, 202430 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 7, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 7. Roger Parloff sat down with Tyler McBrien, Benjamin Wittes, and Claire Meynial to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 08, 202430 min

Chatter: Phantom Orbit with Journalist David Ignatius

David Ignatius has worked at the Washington Post for more than 35 years in various roles and won many awards. He has written a column on foreign affairs for 25 years and reported some of the most significant national security stories over the last couple of decades. And he has done it while pumping out best-selling spy thrillers. Lawfare  Research fellow Matt Gluck spoke with Ignatius about his newest spy thriller,  Phantom Orbit , which is a story of intelligence and the advance of sp...

May 07, 20241 hr 2 min

Lawfare Daily: Wargaming’s Past, Present, and Future with Andrew Reddie

Andrew Reddie is an Associate Research Professor of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley, and the founder and faculty director of the Berkeley Risk and Security Lab. Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien spoke with Andrew about wargaming as a tool to manage risk from war to climate—and beyond. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a  Lawfare  Material Supporter at  www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support  Lawfare  by making a one-time donation &nb...

May 07, 202438 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 6, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 6. Roger Parloff sat down with Tyler McBrien, Benjamin Wittes, and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 07, 202431 min
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