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The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfareblog.com.

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Episodes

Lawfare Daily: Benjamin Wittes on Israel, Gaza, and Implications for U.S. Foreign and Domestic Policy

On April 24, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes delivered a Watson Distinguished Lecture at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University to discuss the Israel-Gaza war and the implications for U.S. foreign and domestic policy. He talked about Israel’s incompatible objectives of freeing hostages and eradicating Hamas, the moral context of the war, U.S.-Israeli relations in this context, what the U.S. and Israel still have in common—and what they no longer hav...

May 06, 20241 hr 20 min

Lawfare Archive: Alex Vindman on the Escalation in Ukraine

From April 9, 2021: Tensions are heating up between Russia and Ukraine, seven years after the seizure by the Russians of the Crimean Peninsula and the incursions into Eastern Ukraine. With troop movements and some saber rattling, is Vladimir Putin trying to send a message to Joe Biden, or perhaps to Ukrainian President Zelensky? Is he trying to satisfy domestic constituencies or distract them? Benjamin Wittes sat down with Alexander Vindman to talk about what Russia is doing and why, and what th...

May 05, 202438 min

Lawfare Archive: Natan Sachs on Bibi's Big Day in Washington

From March 7, 2015: This week, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu  delivered  a  controversial address  to a joint session of Congress in a move not coordinated with President Barack Obama. The speech, repeatedly interrupted by thunderous applause, focused on the nature of the developing nuclear accord between the P5+1 and Iran and insisted a better deal was possible. The speech was also heavily colored by its proximity to the upcoming Israeli elections, with man...

May 04, 202426 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 3, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 3. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 04, 202430 min

Lawfare Daily: Domestic Deployment of the National Guard

Over the past several years, governors around the country from both political parties have used their respective National Guards for an increasingly unconventional array of domestic missions, ranging from teaching in public schools to regulating immigration at the southern border. To discuss how this trend may impact the National Guard—and our broader democracy, particularly in this pivotal election year— Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson recently sat down with a panel of senior former Nat...

May 03, 20241 hr 21 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (May 2, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, May 2. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 03, 202430 min

Rational Security: The “RatSecapella” Edition

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by Lawfare Contributing Editor Eric Ciaramella to talk through the week’s big natsec stories, including: “Not Done Nyet.” U.S. foreign assistance is finally on its way to Ukraine, along with additional support from European allies. But will it be enough to solidify or advance the beleaguered Ukrainian military’s position? What is the state of the conflict and how does it look set to move forward? “Official Tracts.” Last week, the Supreme Court ...

May 02, 20241 hr 16 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: Weekly Round-Up (May 1, 2024)

It's another episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations,” recorded on May 1 in front of a live audience on  YouTube  and Zoom. Lawfare  Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with  Lawfare  Legal Fellow Anna Bower and  Lawfare  Senior Editors Roger Parloff and Quinta Jurecic to talk about state-level prosecutions of "fake electors," what Judge Cannon is up to in the classified documents case, and what has happened in the New York hush money and election inte...

May 02, 20241 hr 25 min

Lawfare Daily: Protecting Information and Communications Technology and Services, with Director Elizabeth Cannon

What do port cranes, TikTok, artificial intelligence, and connected vehicles have in common? They may all be subject to regulation by a new office within the Department of Commerce: the Office of Information and Communications Technology and Services (OICTS).  Between 2019 and 2023, the president issued multiple executive orders aimed at securing the United States' information and communications technology and services. They focused on the supply chain, cybersecurity, sensitive data of...

May 02, 202443 min

Lawfare Daily: Dmitri Alperovitch on ‘World on the Brink’

Dmitri Alperovitch is the author, with Garrett Graff, of the new book , “World on the Brink: How America Can Beat China in the Race for the Twenty-First Century.” He’s also the cofounder and chairman of Silverado Policy Accelerator. He joined Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to discuss the book, tensions in the Taiwan Strait, deterring China from invading Taiwan, and the history of what Dmitri calls “Cold War II.”   To receive ad-free podcasts, become a  Lawfare  Material S...

May 01, 202457 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (Apr. 30, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, April 30. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 01, 202432 min

Chatter: How the Cold War Made Miami with Vince Houghton

For a period of time in the 1960s, the Central Intelligence Agency was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, employer in the city of Miami. The CIA had set up a base of operations there, aimed primarily at undermining the regime of Cuban leader Fidel Castro. From those early days, writes historian Vince Houghton, the Cold War battle against communism shaped the city, which he says should rank among the world’s great capitals of espionage.  Houghton and co-author Eric Driggs, both Miami na...

Apr 30, 20241 hr 20 min

Lawfare Daily: How Congress Passed the National Security Package with Molly Reynolds

On April 24, President Joe Biden signed the National Security Package into law. It's a bundle of legislation that provides aid to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan and requires TikTok's Chinese parent company to divest from the app or face a national ban, among various other provisions.  Lawfare  Associate Editor Katherine Pompilio sat down with  Lawfare  Senior Editor Molly Reynolds to unpack what exactly is in the package and explore the legislation’s journey through Congress. Th...

Apr 30, 202450 min

Lawfare Daily: Justin Sherman on the Benefits and Limits of a New Law Governing Data Brokers

On March 20, the House of Representatives passed the  Protecting Americans’ Data From Foreign Adversaries Act . The House bill was passed by the Senate on April 23 as part of the larger foreign aid package, which President Biden signed into law on April 24.  Lawfare  Senior Editor Stephanie Pell sat down with Justin Sherman, Senior Fellow at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy, to talk about the benefits and limits of the new legislation, now law. They talked about t...

Apr 29, 202446 min

Lawfare Archive: TikTok, WeChat and Trump

From September 28, 2020: It's been a wild few weeks with President Trump threatening to shut WeChat and TikTok out of the U.S. market and rip them out of the app stores. There have been lawsuits, a preliminary injunction—and a sudden deal to purchase TikTok and moot the issue out. To chew it all over, Benjamin Wittes spoke with  Lawfare  co-founder Bobby Chesney, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin Law School, and Jordan Schneider, the voice behind the podcast ChinaTalk. T...

Apr 28, 202441 min

Lawfare Archive: Jim Sciutto on ‘The Shadow War’

From June 15, 2019: Russian and Chinese leaders understand that they’re unlikely to win a shooting war with the United States, but they have other ways to challenge Western interests, turning our greatest strengths—open societies, dominance of technology on Earth and in space, and military innovation—into weaknesses. CNN anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto calls it “the shadow war,” and it’s the subject of his new book of the same name. David Priess sat down with Jim to ...

Apr 27, 202447 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (Apr. 26, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, April 26. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 27, 202430 min

Lawfare Daily: Presidential Immunity at the Supreme Court

In today's Lawfare Podcast, Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic, Roger Parloff, and Alan Rosenstein. In a live conversation recorded less than an hour after Supreme Court Oral Arguments concluded, they discussed presidential immunity, and whether former president Trump is immune from prosecution for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a  Lawfare  Material Supporter at  www.pa...

Apr 26, 202453 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (Apr. 25, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, April 25. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 26, 202431 min

Rational Security: The “Don’t Call It a Comeback (Because I’m Technically Still on Leave)” Edition

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were finally reunited to talk through the week’s big natsec stories, including: “First is the Worst.” The historic first criminal trial of a former president has commenced in New York state courts. Both sides have sketched out their cases in opening arguments. What will the charges being brought against former President Trump relating to alleged hush money payments on his behalf mean for him and his 2024 presidential campaign? “Fair Whither Friend.” After month...

Apr 25, 20241 hr 9 min

Lawfare Daily: Trump Trials and Tribulations Weekly Round-up (Apr. 24, 2024)

In today's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien, Anna Bower, Quinta Jurecic and Roger Parloff for a round-up of the most recent news in all of Donald Trump's ongoing legal cases. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a  Lawfare  Material Supporter at  www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support  Lawfare  by making a one-time donation   at  https://givebutter.com/c/trumptrials . The podcast was edited by Cara Shillenn of ...

Apr 25, 20241 hr 34 min

Lawfare Daily: CYBERCOM Legal Conference: The Role of the Private Sector in Conflict

The annual U.S. Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM) Legal Conference convenes lawyers across government and the private sector working on cyber issues. This year’s conference focused on the power of partnerships. Executive Editor Natalie Orpett moderated a panel, titled “The Business of Battle: Navigating the Role of the Private Sector in Conflict,” featuring Jonathan Horowitz of the International Committee for the Red Cross, Laurie Blank of the Defense Department’s Office of the General Counsel, and Ada...

Apr 24, 202457 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (Apr. 23, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, April 23. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tyler McBrien and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 23, 202429 min

Chatter: New Cold Wars with Journalist David Sanger

David Sanger has been writing for the New York Times   since he graduated from college more than four decades ago. Over that period, Sanger has served as a business correspondent in Silicon Valley, the Times bureau chief in Japan, and has covered the last five presidents—which has given Sanger a front-row seat to U.S. foreign policy for much of the post-Cold War period. It is that experience that informs Sanger’s newest book, “ New Cold Wars ,” in which Sanger argues—relying on a voluminous...

Apr 23, 20241 hr 7 min

Lawfare Daily: Ambassador Robert Lighthizer on Trade Policy

Ambassador Robert Lighthizer is the former United States Trade Representative in the Trump administration and the author of the 2023 book, “No Trade Is Free: Changing Course, Taking on China, and Helping America's Workers.” He sat down with Jack Goldsmith to talk about his work as Deputy U.S. Trade Representative under President Reagan, why extreme neoliberal trade policy took hold in the 1990s, his core philosophy on trade and how it departed from the 1990s neoliberal consensus, and the main wa...

Apr 23, 202453 min

Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch (Apr. 22, 2024)

It's Trump's Trials and Tribulations, New York Trial Dispatch, April 22. Tyler McBrien sat down with Benjamin Wittes and Anna Bower to discuss what happened in the courtroom today. The podcast was edited by Ian Enright of Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is from Alibi Music. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 22, 202431 min

Lawfare Daily: The Case for a U.S. Cyber Force

Lawfare ’s Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, Eugenia Lostri, talks to Dr. Erica Lonergan, Assistant Professor in the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University. Dr. Lonergan recently  authored a report  making the case for establishing a U.S. Cyber Force as a way to address the military’s difficulty to recruit, train, and equip sufficient personnel to meet growing cyber challenges. They talked about the types of problems the cyber mission faces, different...

Apr 22, 202448 min

An Announcement from Lawfare

Starting Monday, April 22, the  Lawfare Podcast  feed is gonna look a little different. Our daily show, the Lawfare Podcast,  will remain on this feed, along with  Rational Security  and  Chatter . We’ll also be adding some important new content as well. Starting with opening statements in the New York state court trial against Donald Trump, we will discuss the events of the day’s proceedings on a short livestream dispatch on  our YouTube channel . Th...

Apr 21, 20245 min

Rational Security: The “Trump and Elon Both Love Lawfare” Edition

This week on Rational Security , Alan and Quinta sat down with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk through the week’s big national security news, including: “Ayatollahs and Airstrikes.” In retaliation for an Israeli strike that killed several high-ranking Iranian military officers in Syria, over the weekend Iran launched a wave of drone and missile attacks against Israel. The vast majority of these were shot down by Israel and its allies, including notably Jordan, causing minimal inj...

Apr 21, 20241 hr 14 min

Trump’s Trials and Tribulations: 13 Jurors Down, Five to Go

It's another episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations,” recorded on April 18 in front of a live audience on YouTube and Riverside. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff to talk about oral arguments at the Supreme Court in Fischer v. United States , over an obstruction charge used to charge hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants, including former President Trump. They checked in on Judge Cannon and last week's hearing on motions from Trump's...

Apr 20, 20241 hr 26 min
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