Jacinda Ardern | Photogen-Ick
Jun 04, 2025•35 min
Episode description
America's intelligence chiefs are seeking a more engaging way to brief the president, the head of FEMA is cracking jokes about hurricane season, FBI Director Kash Patel probably looks bigger in person, and Tinder has a new minimum height setting. New Zealand's former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern argues that a good leader can wear their heart on their sleeve and connect to constituents on an emotional level. Stick around for more with the former prime minister and check out her memoir, "A Different Kind of Power," available now.
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