The Late Debate | 5 May

Welcome the Late Debate. Good evening and welcome to the program.

I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and filling in for tonight James McPherson is Danika di Giorgio, who, of course you can see as one half of Doneka and James on a Sunday night, or two halves of Doaneka on a Friday night. Of course, you know, we know the coalition is stuffed at the moment here in this country, but it's a different story over in the UK, where Nigel Farage's Reform Party had an excellent result on the weekend. We'll tell you a bit more about that later on.

Of it very shortly.

A story that you may have missed and one that you may well be happy about. You're not getting text messages from Hfong anymore from the Trumpet of Patriots telling you which way to vote, getting about ten of them a day, as we were, and you may well never get them again, because Clive Palmer has said it's time to hang up his hat. He says, after all this time.

Can we thank him for that because it's keeping us in work? But he says it's time.

To say goodbye. He says, I'm seventy one and I'm getting too old for politics. I'd rather spend time helping the tens of thousands that are homeless and hungry in this country. That's why I've donated five million to food Bank.

So it would seem.

Finally it is cyanara from mister Palmer in this regard. And I talked about those text messages before, seventeen million text messages Trumpet of Patriots sent out ten thousand complaints. Palmer said they received about those and as I said before, they turned that into one point eight five percent of the national vote. So I'm not sure that was the

And I think this is sad.

I like Clyve.

I love the love.

That he has for this country because despite what you think of him personally, he loves this country and that is why he's happy to what it looks like on the outside, squander tens of millions of dollars every time we have a federal election. Because he believes in these policies which many of us actually agree with, he simply doesn't have everything else that it takes to get something like this.

Off the ground.

But I'm sorry to see the back of him. I mean, this is a guy who during all that COVID nonsense, he was very staunchly, adamantly against it all.

And think what you will of hydroxy chloroquin.

My point about this is that this guy spend over thirty million dollars importing a ton of it before the TGA was like, where, we're actually not going to be using this to treat COVID, but thanks anyway. How many people do you know who would gladly do that? And that was a donation. He was like, I'm doing this off my own bat. I'm trying to help my country. This is something that I see as a solution. It turned out not to be. But he's someone who believes in what he believes in, and he's happy to put

Like the problem. The problem that I have with Clive Palmer is he doesn't know when to stop with his advertising. I honestly feel like he thinks that we're all sitting there and we get a text and he were like, yes, it's the trumpet of patriots. Yes, thank goodness, thank you for that message, when really we go, oh no, no, not again, please spare us. And look, I do applaud the guy for giving it a crack. He's tried, He's tried. He is a you know, like him, all owe them.

I think it gets me about it though, is obviously last election he did get a seat in the Senate in the form of Ralph but as I said before, then for some reason to register the party, and you could argue that in twenty nineteen the preferences flowed in a way from all that money he spent, you know, teams of millions of dollars in order to help Morrison get re elected.

But what has he achieved this time?

Because I don't think he's got anything to show for the money he spent this time. And that was always the question is what does he actually want to do? Because of course, you know, Trumpet and Patriots or United Australia Party is never going to seriously get up.

So what was the point of spending all this money.

I guess he figured if he could get another Ralph for that into the Senate or anywhere for that matter.

Then it'd be worth it.

I love Senator Ralph Babet is an absolute wild card. But when you look at the state of politics in this country, the more wild cards we have the better. He's now on the sidelines being like, I'm glad the Liberals lost the fake Conservatives.

What were they going to do anyway?

And we do we need to see a radical revamp of what was once the Conservative Party, and hopefully this catastrophic loss for the Libs is going to give birth to that revamp that's been a long time in coming and unfortunately it's just taking this catastrophe to get there.

Yeah, no, I agree with you, but I also do think Clive Palmer provided an alternative that I think that the Liberals should have provided. Indeed, because he was straight to you know, the man. When he says something, he says it, and that's what we needed in this country. So again like him, all owe him. He actually gave a genuine alternative which we didn't see from the Liberal Party.

Indeed, while we're talking about all this election stuff and we're going to get into more of than nitty gritty now, you have to feel bad for Peter Datknoan, amongst all the other things that happened obviously, you know, the worst result for the Coalition since the nineteen forties, since the Coalition has existed. I believe he's lost his own seat of Dixon. So after twenty four years in politics, he's

I think it was right. I mean that they worked so hard the Labor.

Party to link Peter Dutton to Donald Trump, and Donald Trump doesn't even know the guy's name.

Albanis.

I'm very friendly with I haven't I don't know anything.

About the election. He's been very very nice.

To me, very respectful to me.

I have no idea who the other person is that ran against.

Him, And you know, we've had a very good relationship I mean, the poor fella, How.

Bad must you feel after they linked.

Him so much to Trump and Trump? I don't even know who he is.

Interesting though, that he says, there, you know, I've got a great relationship with Alberans and they had a phone call today, actually Alban Easy and Donald Trump. But he's talking about how great the relationship with albo is and he doesn't even know the guy who was apparently going to be Trump two point zero.

Well, why would you?

Because I think Trump's people knew Albanezi was a sure win. So it's not like you're going to do any extensive research on the potential other prime minister.

It was pretty obvious this was well. I always said anyway.

I know a lot of people were hopeful that this could be a liberal when but I kept telling you, just come back to the electoral math. It doesn't matter what the polls say, and it doesn't matter what the liberals are promising. At the end of the day, the electoral math was staunchly in favor of Labor, and in my humble opinion, it wasn't a case of will Labor win? It was only a case of buy how much? And

Not what we're trying to do.

But at the same time, Alban Easy was being slammed as having no relationship whatsoever with Trump. Just the other week he was saying, Oh, I don't have Trump's phone number. I don't even think he is a phone. No, we don't speak whatsoever. Well, very different tune today. You would have thought they've been mates for ages. Here he was talking about what a wonderful phone call he'd just had with the President of the United States.

I had a very warm and positive conversation with President Trump just a short while ago. We talked about her. Orcus and Tarifs will continue to engage. We will engage with each other on a face to face basis at some time in the future.

Turns out they're the ones who have been best friends all along.

What a twit.

Who would have thought? Who would have thought. You know the funniest thing about this whole thing is that Anthony Albaneze he couldn't actually get a call for Donald Trump several months of course we had the tariff slapped on us. But suddenly, wow, what by some miracle, he manages to actually get on the blower to Donald Trump. And while all is forgiven, they're all suddenly best friends for life and holding hands. And what does this prove? What does

And this is what really annoyed me about the way the campaign was run for the Libs, because there was always the problem that Dutton was apparently not likable. You know, people didn't see Dutton as the kind of bloke they'd want to have a beer with in the same way they might Anthony Albanizi.

But you were never going to overcome that.

I mean, unless you can change the way that Peter Dutton presents in front of a camera, and he's been in politics for a very long time, you're never going to change that. And everyone who knows him personally will say that he's got a wicked sense of humor and he's great company, and he's a great guy. But for whatever reason, that has never translated on screen. So forget about trying to soften him, which they tried to do

Gee, I love this elbow bloke.

He's the best Prime Minister Australia he's ever had. But they were dead certain that they didn't want Peter Dutton anywhere near the lodge. It was the result of a personal campaign that they ran against him. But at no point did the Coalition let Peter Dutton do the same thing to Albanzi.

No, Well, they were all obsessed with like we've got.

To soften his image. And I actually think that was.

The downfall of Pete Dutton because the one thing in politics that is worth its weight in gold is authenticity. And if you're just yourself, whether people like it or lumpet, people know, okay, this guy stands for something and he's being himself. I'm looking at the genuine article, so I know what I do or don't want to vote for.

Way too low.

But it worked, Like you say, and at the end of the day, after all the votes accounted, that's all that matters. So obviously the big question now is who will be the new Liberal leader. We know Dan Tian's hat is in the ring. We know Susan's Lay's hat is in the ring. We know Angus Taylor's hat is.

In the ring.

These are the three names that are being bandied about. But we know one Liberal senator by the name of Holly Hughes, a regular hero on Sky News, has said, whoever it is, it can't be Angus Taylor.

I know who I won't be supporting. I think when you've had roles leading what was supposed to be the economic narrative, when you were supposed to be putting.

Together tax policies, when.

You were supposed to be delivering that sort of messaging for the coalition, when you are aky member of the EERC we're quite frank clear as a shadow who submitted seven costed policies last October and.

Then never heard anything back.

There's certain people that I think need to do a lot of reflection themselves on what their role was the miss laws and perhaps putting your hand up for the leadership is not exactly where your strength lies.

We certainly didn't see a strong performance from Angus Taylor this campaign. I don't think anyone would argue with that, and certainly anyone who watched the debate, I think it was pretty much across the board.

Everyone was like, ah, yeah, Charmers won that one.

Sorry, even though we know what team we support, Chalmers won that debate, and that seemed to be a reoccurring theme whenever you saw Angus Taylor on our screen.

I agree, And the problem is is that the Liberals really did, I think, failed to sell an economic narrative, and August Taylor, being the shadow Treasurer, he was key part of that. And the guy's a smart guy. You cannot deny he is a Rhodes scholar. He knows what he's talking about. But I don't think he particularly came across as strong in that debate that you were talking about, Liz.

Which is why Hasty doesn't want to put his hand up yet. In there's an argument, there's an argument to be made that if you don't want to put your hand up now and you want to come in and collect all the prizes later, then you perhaps don't deserve to.

Collect all the prizes.

But there's also an argument that it's not worth burning good talent early because if things go really badly at the next election, you know, that could be the end of it. But of course there is a man called John Winston Howard who famously lost an election as Opposition leader and then came back and became the second longest serving Australian Prime minister in history. So it's not like

Now there are two problems with that. It handed a free kick to Labor.

I mean he fell for the three card trick, and they then got to say for the rest of the campaign that this is the Liberal Party, the coalition that won't give you a tax cut, and that was born out in the polling that people legitimately started to think that the Labor Party was more likely to be the party that would give them a tax cut. So they handed that as a free kick, and it was never going to get through the Senate anyway. I mean that

To be repealed.

It was one of the dumbest decisions they made. So as far as I'm concerned, he's not up to the job. Susan Lay I don't think is particularly electable.

You know, she just doesn't do it for me. I don't think she's been particularly.

Impressive as the deputy leader of Liberal Path.

It could be a smart move for the Libs, though it gives them that massive point of difference. She would be the first female leader of the Liberal Party again in terms of a revamp, optical and otherwise, it could be really helpful for them. And I think Dan Tian being such a part of the Old Guard now, if it were Angus Taylor, if it were Dan Teen, they're considered Dutton's right hand men already, So if what the Libs want is to do a revamp, I think Susan Lay is actually the.

Best though he's proven himself to be a good campaigner. And I was down in the western districts of Victoria last week at the races in Warnabulle and everywhere were the signs for Alex Dyson because he got money out of the Climate two hundred mod this time, and it was absolutely everywhere we stay in Port Fairy and every second bloody house in Port Fairy had an Alex Dyson sign on it. And I spoke to Tea and at

And he managed to hold him off. There was a massive.

Campaign that Alex Dyson ran down there and he managed to fend it off.

So he has some campaigning chops, which which clearly the coaletion struggled with.

But he's been strong as well. But I think overall we have to ask the question as well, is this almost like the death of the Conservatives, because we're not just seeing it here in Australia. We're seeing it the Canadian election that was held last week as well. The Conservatives were decimated. But you look at what's happening as well over in the UK. The Conservatives are not performing very well over there. But you know who is actually

The measure to Keir Starmer sarcastically, is please keep doing what you're doing, and the message it can be made not is well. Frankly, the Conservative Party's finished today. It's gone, it's dying in the shahs. It has no future, It stands for nothing.

It serves no purpose, any chance of doing a deal with them to unite the right.

I don't want to do a deal with them. We're going to win the next election on our own.

Okay, Nigel Franch, thank you very much, thank you. And you know what, he probably may have a good chance. The polls are right now in reforms favor. Why because people over there have had enough of mass immigration. They're sick to death of jobs being given to immigrants who've come to the country as opposed to people who were born and raised there. Hello, we're seeing issues here in this country as well. But what I particularly like about Nigel Ferajus he's not mucking around. He said that he's

We are going to be quite radical. Work from home. Forget it. If you're a DEI officer, I suggest you look for another job.

So things are going to be different.

We can't wagh magic ones. We don't pretend to, but it'd be a very different approach to local government.

So I think that this result was quite telling and it goes to show, as I said, when you actually have policies and you stick to them and you don't back down, you don't go all scared, you don't go all light like what we saw with the Liberal Party here. You can actually make a difference when you have a point of difference. It was a really really successful win over a former even former gb News host Darren Grimes.

And this is just remarkable in a matter of months. So it was just August last year UK went to the polls.

We know that Kirstarmer got up.

Reformer party just got fourteen percent of the vote share, modest, not too bad. Here we are in the following year and in these local elections they romped in thirty percent of the vote, winning six hundred and seventy seven council seats.

This is huge.

They crushed Labor, they crushed the Conservatives. Labor lost over one hundred and sixty seats. The Conservatives lost over six hundred seats in these local elections. So those guys are absolutely really You will remember, just months after the national election last year, over two million English people signed a poll saying, please, we are crying out Parliament go to an early general election because.

We already have by a remorse.

They had punished the Conservatives at election because the Conservatives had not delivered on their Brexit promises, namely to clamp down on the mass rampant immigration that was sweeping the UK. Kiss Starmer then became Prime Minister, took the narrow win and proceeded.

To just keep doing.

All these progressive policies that everyone in the UK had said very loudly they didn't want any more. But worse than that, Kiers Starma then enacted these draconian policies to silence everyone and censor everyone who was still complaining, still noticing, still posting on their socials being like my country's being overrun and I'm absolutely sick of it. And that's where reform is now absolutely transcendent because they're just like, Okay, the Conservatives aren't cutting.

It for you.

We are replacing them. We will be the Conservative party that you long to see. It's going to be really interesting when they go back to the polls for a general election reform.

I have no doubt that Farage can do this.

And he means business when he says, you guys are dead in the water.

We're going to win a majority government.

By ourselves come the next general election.

We're just getting started.

Well, they picked up another MP on the weekend as well as the election, so they've now got their fifth

How extraordinary this was.

In the council elections, there's one thy six hundred and forty one seats across the UK. Six hundred and seventy seven of them, forty one percent went to the Reform Party. The lib Dems won three hundred and seventy, the Tories three hundred and nineteen, as Liz said before, that's down six hundred and seventy seven on where they were, and Labor one ninety eight, which is down one hundred and

The thing is, the Conservatives are being decimated right now across the world, other than Donald Trump, who has done exceptionally well. But again it comes down to good life leadership. And people criticize Nigel Farage saying he's Donald Trump two point right. Hey, the guy is highly successful because he says it like it is and that's the difference. And I do agree, well, correct, It's all about authenticity. It's not about backing away I do agree. Here in Australia

Can you imagine how the Tories must feel. They could have had Nigel Farage.

And it will be Averen story.

They said no and he's gone and proven and wrong. And I can't get over this business. Today Donald Trump saying he's going to put one hundred percent tariff on films made overseas that are then screened in Hollywood, and here he is talking about it.

We're making very few movies now, Harleywood, He's being displayed.

Now.

You haven't jarfenent grossly and garpending.

Governor that allows that to happen.

So I'm not just blaming nations, but other nations, a lot of them have stolin.

I'm moving in them.

So he says Hollywood is dying and we have to do something to try and revive Hollywood. I mean, I would suggest there are a multitude of reasons that Hollywood is dying. I mean, it went woke and no one wanted to watch the crap that was coming out of it. Just look at the snow white film that Disney just put out. Of course, Disney's now miraculously turned around and said, oh, maybe we won't make woke films anymore. Funny about that,

Now, remake after remake after remake.

They've genuinely run out of ideas. So no wonder Hollywood is in trouble. And I wish I could tell you the detail around this plan, but it doesn't actually exist. I mean, all we've been told is that Trump wants to put one hundred percent tariff on films that come

No one knows what this actually leans. I mean, this was a brain fart from Donald Trump.

Seriously, he's an ounce They've got to make it work now. All the Hollywood exects, by the way, like, we got no heads up about this.

We found out about it when it came out of the man's mouth. And given the scrambling the Trump admin is now trying to do.

To enact this, apparently it's happening.

I don't think they knew either, because obviously a movie isn't a product. It doesn't travel through ports, so how is such a tariff going to work. It's also startled a lot of other people in different other sectors because they're like, well, hang on a minute, we thought these tariffs would just be on products. Now you mean to tell me we're talking movies. Who else is he going to hit up?

Now?

But this was Trump's post from his Truth social platform. He said the movie industry in America is dying a very fast death.

I'd say that's a great thing.

But anyway, other countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States. Hollywood and many other areas within the USA are being devastated. This is a concerted effort by other nations and therefore a national security threat. Oh, this is reaching hysteric levels, ladies and gentlemen. It is in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda.

I couldn't agree more.

How about you get rid of the Pentagon Department that works in collusion with Hollywood to pump this crap out. It's therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce and the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin the process of instituting a one hundred percent tariff on any and all movies coming into our country that are produced in foreign lands. We want movies made in America again in

Of course they're going to do it, but rather than.

Make it more affordable for them to do so in the US, he's just saying, no, I'm going to make it far too expensive for you to do it anyway.

Try use VHS. That's why you think so well, I.

Highly doubt a billionaire like Donald Trump still on the old VHS. Yeah, but look, you never know. Look but one can dream. But I completely this was a thought bubble. There is no doubt this is a thought bubble. This is not only going to cripple the overseas market, We're going to be impacted here in Australia as well by this. Don't forget there's been major films. If you look back, there's been major films film here. It's going to have an impact on our market. It's going to cripple the

You may have a point though. Crocodile Dundee was pretty good Australian propaganda, wasn't it.

It was bring back Crocodile Dundee before we leave you for a break tonight. Chinese, one of their humanoid robot factories, has made headlines around the world for all the wrong reasons. It's called China's Unitree Robotics. They were supposed to be showcasing this humanoid robot called H one, and well it went very badly in fact, with someone kind of This guy was lucky to escape with his life. There's a humanoid absolutely going tropo. These guys are running for their lives.

You can go online and buy one of these now.

I think sales are probably going to plummet, but it certainly doesn't dissuage the fears that so many people have about these humanoid robots. Elon Musk has been like, oh, we're going to produce five to ten thousand of them in the next few years. Those people, those techie people, are very excited about this expanding industry, and the rest of us are watching on with horror at things like this terrifying.

It's incredible to think where we could be going. I just got to say, that thing looks like me. When I went through my bit slips at Warnable Lab, I realized that back two inns All Week book, He's cleaned me up I meaning two minute noodles for the rest of the year, it would see. After the break we'll get into the papers, big time Liberal donuts.

Saying they may will never donate to the party again.

That is how bad things have become. Don't go away, all right, let's get into tomorrow's papers. We'll start with the Australian, where I have to say, right up the top, the best story I've seen all week, perhaps all year, a bit of avoidance from the election. Oscar Piastre, who has won again in the US. I mean he is just it and a bit boy from Brighton in Melbourne. He will win the championship this year, mark my words. But another story underneath it, completely hopeless, furious top Liberal

To quote soul Pats.

Who's given more than a million dollars in the past to the party said it's been a disaster. I will be seriously thinking about whether I ever donate again.

I don't know where they go to from now. It was a very poor campaign. There were too many mixed messages.

They didn't convince voters that labor spending billions on renewables is a bad idea. That Libs have to change their way of thinking and get more of the swing voters. I mean, when you've got people who punt up a lot of money, say I don't know that I'll ever give them money again, you own big traup.

Absolutely, this is a real worry for the Liberal Party. They would be absolutely crying to read this article because if you haven't got the money, you haven't got the backing, then what's the point of putting out a campaign. But look, they've done it to themselves. They will have to rebuild. They're going to have to really convince donors that they are not in the wilderness, that they are going to improve, that they're going to fix the mess but it's going

It would be such a good time, like we were talking about earlier, if there was a legitimate alternative like worm have managed you out of the blue, like they haven't even been around for that long at all, and look what they have achieved. Because people are desperate for a Conservative party and they're like, well the Conservatives aren't doing it for you, We're going to do it for you.

If one of those were to.

Spring up in Australia pretty soon, they could count on these backers arguably just say hey, if those are the policies that you want to see pushed, that's our bread and butter. We're going to do it legitimately, unapologetically, and we're going to create some wins in this country for the Conservative vote. You wonder if you wouldn't Just like the Conservatives in the UK, the Tories have lost a

Well, it'd be good to see them given a scare, wouldn't it. One day scare they had on the weekend is enough to shock them into action. But of course, now that albow is back, all the old people are starting to circle again, and one of them is Marsha

An Indigenous voice.

To anyone who actually believes that, to to borrow a line from the Prime Minister, who I believe he borrowed from some influencer podcast, is you are de Lulu with no, Slulu, I mean to think that this election was actually a rejection of Datton saying that Welcome to Country is overdone and that he would only stand in front of the Australian fact. I'm sorry, no one walked into a ballot box Saturday and said I'm voting on the basis of

Yeah. But you know what, though, the Liberals actually should have gone harder on the voice. I think throughout the campaign they should have they should have narrated it out. As for Marsha, you know, they just pipe in their heads up again now that Labor has been re elected. And what struck me the other night now Beneze his victory speech when he really enthusiastically acknowledged Elder's past president emerging and that that line he was really husiastics So

Kate.

Well, I mean, God help us always like to say to that, but I don't. I just don't think if they think that's what people were voting on.

Okay, we'll look at the Herald's sun now. Now, this is one of the most delicious moments of the election campaign. If there is any Bant in fight to survive, hallelujah. There eight Victorian seats remain in doubt as the race titans in the Liberals favor in three key electorates, offering the party a silver lining amid the devastating defeat. Greensley that Adam Banty is at risk of losing his seat of Melbourne to Labor, while t LMP Monk Ryan on

When you see now delicious not about to talk about Sidney sweeneyws on the front. Well, I mean you would think that would be It would be much much better than Adam band, much better vision than Adam Banter or menik Rah.

And that's for sure.

But I mean, for goodness sake, you know they say don't count your chickens before then, and given the advice of eggs these days, they're very expensive chickens to be counting.

I mean, wouldn't it be magnificent?

And we saw, of course that the Greens have gone backwards, they lost two seats.

In Queens It I mean, how.

Delicious would it be see Adam indeed, to see Adam Bant go with them. I suspect Bant is going to hold on and most of the Teals, it should be noted, even if two of them say go in Victoria, most of them will hold on in the rest of the country. So it's not like the days are over for the Teals. But it is a window into their bravado to say on election.

And then the couch starts coming in. So sorry, I got that wrong.

Very humiliating to the front page of the Townsville Bulletin. Now odd story bin police to check waste come again. Residents and ratepayers in Townsville will soon be treated to a strange site on their streets, that of Townsville City Council employees popping open their bins to take a look inside. The move comes as a part of Townsville City Council's new Bin health check program, running until September across seven suburbs.

The mayor says this blitz is all about.

Boosting recycling and cutting land fell So she says they won't be rifling through rummish.

Just taking a look.

So to Townsville residence, all that matters is what's on top, okay, So just whatever you do, make sure you sprinkle the good stuff on top, get the tick from these clipboard council employees and you're in the clear.

Anyway, How would you like to be a bin coop.

I mean, they wouldn't be the best job. Can you imagine the smell out of everyone's bins?

I know.

It reminds me of one of my favorite stories ever published in the history of journalism, which was by a little paper in a small town in the US where the local government had decided that what was in the bin once it was on the footpath was public property, so anyone could come.

Along and take it.

So these small time journos of this little paper went rifled through the bins of all the local politicians and then published what they found in their bins, and very quickly that policy was turned back. I wonder whether that might happen in this case. After the break, the conclave begins this week to decide who the new Pope will be. What if it was Donald Trump will show you that after this, Well, the new Pope will be decided this week.

Oh look, I think this is absolutely brilliant. Yes, it's a big moment for the Vatican, of course, as they look to elect a new pope, and we saw this fascinating image. It's an AI generated image that Donald Trump has put out today of well, none other than himself is he's nominated and selected himself to be the new Pope. Gosh, if you don't you know he looks. This is the problem with AI. You never know what's real or fake. But you've got to have a look at this AI video.

Well one was he who actually goes to Catholic church?

Yes, I do. All thought it's hilarious. Trump's not even a Catholic.

He doesn't even attend church church of any description.

He's absolutely trolling.

And then the White House's official ex otherwise known as Twitter account, re shared the video, so they're clearly just having a laugh.

Can everyone please come now?

I have to say, though surely being a poping a priest involves celibacy. I don't think Donald Trump would ever get the job.

I mean, for all his faults, and everyone's always rushed to Trump's defense. And I've used the line myself to be like it was an elected to be pope. He was now.

Here, he has been light well.

Actually well he's already had.

I had the second coming in the White House, so who knows what he can do over at Vatican City. But before we go, Tony Barry, who works with our mate Cos Samaras over at Redbridge. He's one of the co directors of at Redbridge, was on the ABC's election coverage on Saturday night. I know you weren't watching that, you were watching us, but you would think, given he was on the coverage, you would have wonderful things to

Tonight, Britta Panecky Show is Up.