Late Welcome to the Late Debate.
And welcome to the Late Debate. I'm Lizsara, and I'm so glad you're here.
Joining me tonight are twoman who really need no introduction, but we'll do one anyway, mister kel Richards.
And Joe Hilda Brand.
I'm glad, thank you, Joe.
That's very reassuring.
Coming up tonight in the papers, both Victoria and New South Wales are insisting they are going to be the big deciding state at next year's federal election.
We'll walk you through the polls.
And try and figure out who's telling the truth. Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tait has been called an Australian for simply telling a counsel that to sit down.
I would have thought that was.
Pretty Australian and Labor's self inflicted tas mayan salmon saga continues as they desperately try.
To save face.
But first tonight to Queensland, where the Health Department is in a heck of a lot of trouble as it's been discovered that their budget has blown out by six point four billion dollars. That's a lot of shaggy ladies and gentlemen people have pointed out, that's enough to build a second cross river rail.
Now this happened after.
Well a lot of things contributed to this, but it was discovered that crucial services like birthing suites and mortuaries were left off the blue plants for new infrastructure, which begs.
The question, who the heck is doing up these plans.
Babies are born every day, people die every day. These are essential services and you managed to leave them off.
A perfect example of a project.
That nearly doubled, actually over doubled in size in terms of its cost, without the assistance of any extra add ons is the Hervey Bay Hospital. It was supposed to cost forty million dollars. It ended up costing ninety four million dollars.
So what does the government do.
It's got air all over its face.
How do they handle this pr disaster?
They spend one point two million dollars calling in a contractor consultant to help them out.
To try and convey what's happened to the public.
We read in the Courier Mail the battled Infrastructure division of Queensland Health spent one point two million dollars calling in consultants to write a public relations strategy for its severely blown out construction pipeline health infrastructure. Queensland, which has control of more than fourteen billion dollar pipeline projects, then move to start its own breakaway unit of media spinners with tasks that included effectively identifying and minimizing emergent media risks.
So not only now do we have the consultants who have already snaffled up one point two million dollars to fix this pr crisis, now we've got Queensland Health itself saying well we'll.
Have our own in house spin doctors.
On top of that, Hell Joe like, we don't pay these people enough to do their jobs and provide services as essential as health, then we have to fork out covering up.
They're absolute ineptity.
You don't fix the debt, you just change the way people think about it. It seems to me if this happened in a household, if we'd overspent our money, then we try to save money. We look at where we could save money. But if the really important thing is what people think, then what you do is when the bowlers come and carry out the sofa in the dining room table, you just sit all the neighbors know, we're going Swedish minimalist. You see, that's what they're doing. They
just try to control what people think. Not actually they over the big budget is fourteen billion dollars. They have overspent by six billion dollars and they don't want to save any money. They just want to change what you think about it.
I mean, they don't want to save money, they just want to save face.
So what amazing?
So this is the Melissa Cadox school of politics. This is instead of actually just earning money honestly and paying off all your debts, you just rack up as much as you possibly can, and then when someone comes a calling. So oh, I just think I might pop out for a quick morning jogs. See your ladder, everybody, and next thing you.
Know, you're foot foot out on the beach.
Look, I think you guys as usual, you're just being terribly unfair, terribly unfair. The man by the government, man Steven Miles, well like that. I just I can't tell you how much I love the Queensland Side less Left. But look, this is yet again another example of shining bureaucratic efficiency because by simply wishing away a six point four billion dollar cost blowout with a one point two million dollar media unit. They have actually produced the same
result for let me just check my notes. One six thousands of the price not an amazing return on investment.
They should have hired you.
I can actually I'm such a good spin doctor. I can actually spin the spin. So when the spin doctors get caught out, I'm the one they turn.
To, right, even to help out the spin doctors. Well.
Health Minister Tom Nichols has asked the department to please justify this expenditure, and the new Treasurer, David Janetski has vowed to cut back on the state relying on such contractors and consultants. He's vowed to back to the tune of six point eight billion dollars over the next four years.
So these guys are in for a rude awakening, Kell, because if this is what the LMP government of the next four years is going to look like, You've got to say a lot of government contractors are feeling pretty nervous, right Well.
I would think the first thing you do when you look at the budget where the money is going, you discover most of it is going on salaries. So what do you do with all the bureaucrats who've wasted all the money. You start sacking a few. I mean, I feel very sorry for the christ of Fula government. They've inherited a terrible mess. It is a real, real disaster because not only did labor mismanage, and I do say the labor left out of different staff Joe, there.
Was a labor rights fault that we lost Queensland to the labor left.
But still yes, anyway, so in deference to Joe, we'll admit it was the labor left. But they did a really bad job of managing the budget, and then they saw a looming election and they decided the only thing to do was to spend, spend, spend promises that the man Chris has inherited all of this. They've had.
Fundations at one point, wasn't it going to be state run servey?
Oh?
Yes, But they've increased the public service by tens of thousands. So they're going to have to be a lot of public servants who go for Chris Afooley to achieve this.
And whenever they talk about that, everyone invokes the name of Camble Newman.
That's what Camball Newman did, and look what we did to him.
Because we've won all our well paid government jobs, and when they're parting with.
Them, speak of all those poor bureaucrats working twenty four hours a day just helping people fill up their cars with fuel.
But they're working, they're way from home, so it's.
Okay, the eat of the tax.
It could be worse if they were in America, because in the United States there's every risk that if you're a senior public servant and you've served the Joe Biden government really well, you may be charged with serious crimes fairly soon or at least what That's what they're starting
to worry about in America. We know that Hunter Biden has been given by his father this unconditional pardon going back to twenty fourteen and covering absolutely everything he did has been charged with, found guilty of, or might have done that hasn't been discovered yet. Well, now, the suggestion is that there should be preemptive pardons issued for people who haven't been charged with anything yet and claiming they haven't committed any crimes. Great, they should be issued even
before that comes in order to protect them. Let's go to MSNBC part of the looney Left in America and see what they have to say about the idea of preemptive pardons.
I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to all of those people threatened by the unjustice of what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration. That of course includes Jack Smith and all of his staff, many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself. Although we don't know that anyone can legally pardon themselves, he will need a pardon because he is going to be harassed and charged for no crimes whatsoever.
Donald Trump has promised that.
And so you think it's only just some linear MSNBC it doesn't matter. But we're told in the White House already senior aids to the Biden administration are discussing this amongst themselves. Should there be pre emptive partns and who should get the fault He should get a preemptive partner or Jack Smith, he might give him a preemptive pardon. Now, basically, what they're doing is reinforcing what President Biden has already said. He has said his own DOJ Department of Justice is rigged.
That's how Hunter got charged with things. It was only because the system's rigged. No, I think someone named Trump has been saying for a long time now. So since the system is rigged, therefore we have to give preemptive pardons to people who haven't actually done anything and are not guilty of anything. It's a wonderful idea, isn't It's.
A brilliant I can't believe we've been going around like chumps this old time, just pardoning people for crimes they've actually committed.
We need to get in there. I can't imagine.
Every husband in the world go, oh, this is fantastic, honey. I'd like to apologize for whatever it is you may find out that I've done over the last ten years. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. But look, here's my pardon.
Turning up with flowers for your wife, didn't She says, what have you done? And you say nothing? Now but next Thursday.
I'm not sure that's right, that's right? But this, but this is absolutely amazing.
Firstly, the howlkel, I'm sure you would have picked up on it. MSNBC has labeled it the Department of Unjustice in.
Justice not injus.
It's like, that's a crappy enough pun as it is it's like is your news limited? That was Guy rund Along Q and a by the way, hi guy, how are you?
How's a new career going? Anyway?
But the but the idea that you would actually think that, Okay, the Department of Justice, which we are saying is and correct me if I've got the lodge wrong here. The Department of Justice, which we say is so precious and pure that we cannot risk it being corrupted by Donald Trump. However, is also corrupted enough in its current form to not be able to guarantee a fair prosecution and trial of Hunter Biden, which is why I therefore have to pardon him.
But I also have to pardon all the other people in the future who the Department of Justice, which is now the Department of Unjustice as a department as opposed to the Department of Injustice. So the Department of grammatical Injustice is now bad er than it was. So now what is he to just pardon everybody? Just everybody?
I think that's what.
They're That's what they're like. You get a parton, and you get a parton, and you get a party, and you get a parton. Look on your seat.
But it's a part of The hilarious part about this is it's an outright admission of guilt.
Why do you need all.
These pardons if nobody's done anything wrong, What are you afraid of? Even if does prosecute certain figures, which he has threatened to do, if they're.
Innocent, what do you care at all time?
Because of the process, the Department I'mjustice targets the just. That's it's going to be the opposite stay. It's like bizarro world. If you're say it's so bad, the Department I'm Justice is suddenly going to become evil. It's going to go, Oh, I've got to find all the people.
Who have followed the law over the past four years.
Stration I always say when it comes to the Department of Justice, the joke is in the name. I mean this, this blanket pardon which excuses Hunter Biden from anything he's done since January two thousand.
Michael Jackson's son is also going.
To part interesting year that that is the year that the Ukrainian government was overthrown while Joe Biden was VP and in charge of Ukrainian relations. Then Hunter in twenty fourteen was mysteriously put on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, despite Hunter having absolutely no relevant skills. He then set up meat and greets between that energy company and people working for a biolab They're in Ukraine,
which was started under the Obama administration. The point of the story is a lot of Ukrainian dollars to the tune of millions were pocketed by the Biden family during this time. Hunter Biden was merely the bad boy for Daddy, and by giving Hunter this pardon, Joe Biden.
Has let himself off the hook.
Remember Trump was actually impeached for trying to uncover the Biden crime family, the very crimes that they were very worried about. Trump uncovering was the very thing he was impeached for.
And now Joe Biden's.
Just gone, I'm not putting up with that again. I'm just giving this blanket pardon. My family is now in the clear. But this has been spoken about, these blanket pardons for all and sundry for quite a while. Now check out this guy, Ed Markey. He's a US Senator,
a Democrat. Of course, he said last month. If it's clear by January nineteenth that revenge is his Trump's intention, then I would recommend to President Biden that he provides those preemptive pardons to people, because that's really what our country is.
Going to kneed next year.
He emphasized the healing potential of a presidential pardon. Quote Nick Nixon's pardon allowed our country to just close that chapter and just move on to a new era.
I think that.
Joe Biden would be very well be in the same situation, and people will look back and say, that's what our country wants.
So the beacon no justice.
I'm enjoying this so much so so I'd have to make sure I'm just.
On the right page here.
So the moral beacon of the current Democratic Party is Richard Nixon, post.
Watergates the irony, Like, not before we knew he did it, but after he went out and was like pardoning everyone.
Of the LA that's your guy. You know, we need to turn back. You know, it's like there Ben Shiffley, the Light on the Hill. We need to look back at the heroes of Democratic past, but.
See what they were doing. What did Richard Nixon do? After all?
Right, but the people who are wanting these pre empty pardons are the same people who were so ready to rush in and defend the fact that Joe has given Hunter, so many Democratic leaders have rushed in decided it was wonderful that Joe gave Hunter a pardon? Or did they? Chuck Schumer is the leader of the Democrats in the Senate. Here's how strongly he came to the defense of Joe and Hunter.
Agree with some of your Democratic College sy that President Biden's parted a Hunter Biden and his wrong or unwise puts personal interest.
Ahead of duty. I got nothing for you on that.
Can I pull up on that?
Concerned black transparency, lack of honesty.
Around my institute.
As I said, I got nothing for you on that noe.
Parting anyone on the way out of office, Stanley members set support.
President, Thank you. I've got nothing for you on that.
But the question is they talked about January sixth, parties. This is a playbook for incoming President Trump. Isn't this a problem? Did he not establish a bad precedent for partners?
I got nothing for you on that. I want any other subjects.
It is wonderful, I've got nothing for you on that. I love that he's not prepared to defend the hunt of Biden pardon once quite would like one himself, just in case to be covered. It's not the only thing the Biden government is doing. They got money.
Very concerned with pardons because Trump has elected very very strong characters, absolute bulldogs, to head up his do O J to head up advisory of the FBI, etc.
And so on.
So it's the good reason that these people want their pardons.
They know what's coming.
But something else the Democrats are very scared about will be ruined by the Trump administration is the billions of dollars they have been funneling into little agency here, little nonprofit there, to the tune of one hundred billion dollars throughout the Biden administration to solve the climate crisis. Of course, so today we learn that fifty four Democratic lawmakers have penned a letter asking Biden to quickly distribute the climate funds before he leaves office, before Trump.
Can ruin it all.
We read in Politico today, fifty four Democratic members of Congress has signed on to a letter asking President Joe Biden to lock in future climate change initiatives by dispersing the promised funds before he leaves office. The letter urges the move to quote ad future politicization or manipulation of climate programs end quote before President elect Donald Trump and a Republican led Congress take over.
In twenty twenty five.
Now, this letter came out the same day as the Biden administration proudly announced that it had sponsored over twenty three thousand agencies using funds that they were allowed to use via their House This for an ironically named bill.
The Inflation Reduction Act.
They've literally reached the threshold of the expenditure, which was one hundred billion dollars, and.
They're still pressing for more.
Well, our mates at Project Veritas, you might remember these guys. They love doing these undercover interviews with a person sitting down on the other side of the table has absolutely no idea they're talking to a reporter from Project Veritas.
They went undercover to to someone from the.
EPA who, unbeknownst to him, just gave them the mother load of what they're up to behind the scenes in the Biden administration.
So an EPA so a lot of times amazing.
So I do you know.
The PLAT production back cool?
Yes?
Okay, Biden's timate long, yes, yeah, So I do hire impremutations. I work with like Biden appointees, somebody that.
We've given out.
We've given out.
Like tens of billions.
Of dollars like I had last year.
I'll hid we given out like fifty million dollars. Fifty million dollars billion, Billy would be fifty billion dollars now just having to get the money out is half as possible before they come in, like top really basically after it all is now, I mean now would always like it truly feels like run at work, throwing like the part off the top when they come in, we haven't gotten out the door and.
They get stopped in.
Yeah, like two months.
No, I think they gave them the money because it was harder if it was a government run program they could get the money your way one, because it was it was an experience politic and comboining for like these are basically like non profit intitutionis that morning covering the entire country. They could have been a coy agency, but because they aren't a sper from the publican decision and these guys are like saving the world literally.
An insurance policy in case those Trumpers get in. Well, they're on the way now, kel and I'm sure that they will be in this nonsense act asap.
One of these guys described it as throwing gold bars off the Titanic, which is That's not the only thing happening in the United States at the moment. There's an important case currently before the U. S. Supreme Court Tennessee pastor law making it illegal to give transgender or gendersphoric children of the kind of chemical treatment, the kind of chemical castration, or puberty blockers, or any sort of medical
treatment while they are still children. That's now illegal in Tennessee, not just in Tennessee, in about half of the American states, about twenty six American states. So the Supreme Court justices have, according to The Daily Mail, have hinted where they stand on this transgender medicine. They've they're hearing an appeal from the Biden government saying we want the Tennessee law canceled. If it's canceled, of course, it will be canceled in all the other twenty five states that have got it.
And the kind of arguments that have been put up, some of them are interesting, some of them are quite strange. For example, Justice Jackson, an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, is saying banning this sort of transgender treatment for children. Well, it's like banning into racial marriage.
The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied to both races, and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever. But I read the statute here, excuse me the case here. You know, the court starts off by saying that Virginia is now one of sixteen states which prohibit and punished marriages on the basis of racial classifications. And when you look at the structure of that law, it looks in terms of incontinuing you can't do something that is inconsistent
with your own characteristics. It's sort of the same thing.
As far as I could follow her reasoning, she's now saying child is now a race and has to be treated as a race. No, children are people who don't understand consequences. There are reasons why children cannot choose on their own to make decisions which will alter them for the rest of their lives, because they're not good about thinking about how things are going to be the Wednesday after next. Children can't understand consequences. And there are a
lot of risks in this disputed surgery. And this came up in an exchange between Donald Trump's prosecutor is Solicitor General and Judge Alito.
After the filing of your petition, of course, we saw the release of the Cast Report in the United Kingdom which found a complete lack of high quality evidence showing that the benefits of the treatments in question here outweigh the risks. I wonder if you would like to stand by the statement that you made in your petition.
I of course acknowledged Justice Alito that there is a lot of debate happening here and abroad about the proper model of delivery of this care and exactly when adolescents should receive it, and how to identify the adolescence for whom it would be helpful. But I stand by that there is a consensus that these treatments can be medically necessary for some adolescents.
And she says that after the Tavistock Clinic in Britain was closed down because of what it was doing to young children. The report that was referred to, the Cash Report, was done by doctor Hillary Cash. Baron is Cash, who is an expert in pediatrics. There's there's a huge debate in the community, and it looks like what is happening in the so called gender affirming treatment. That is, you take children who have gender dysphoria, who were confused about
gender and you affirm their confusion. That's what gender affirming sort of treatment is. It's being practiced in Australia by gender affirming clinics, and we are worse off than they are, Liz, because we're not discussing it directly.
Don't think we don't allow operation.
Four or five times we've had this proposals as something the Senate should look at, and we're just not looking at it. We're not thinking about it, we're not discussing it, we're not debating it. And so little children are having their bodies changed, but.
They're not dark how they're not don't we don't allow. It's against the law in Australia for any surgical procedures against minors transit.
The medical procedures of puberting blockers damage them for life.
And there have been cases Joe like double missectomies.
Not for underta.
And get certain yes it was approved for a certain fifteen year old, but certainly where Senator pull Into Hanson has tried five times now to get upper movement in the Senate, which simply says, let's have an inquiry into this. The UK have banned it. It is no longer happening in the UK. The CAST report was so comprehensive they came out and said, we are not transitioning children any more.
No more cross sex hormones, no more gender blockers. Sorry, what am I looking for?
The Tabubany book huby blockers, thank you very much, which have been shown to affect your fertility for the rest of your life, as well as bone density and any number.
Of other issues.
We've had child psychiatrists and pediatricians here in Australia even stood down from their jobs because they refuse to go along the narrative of gender affirming care.
They said, I can't do it. It goes against my morals. This is completely wrong.
But we seem to be, like you say, kel behind the rest of the world here because several Western countries now have banned the practice all together, and as you say, we're not even looking into it.
Well, I think that the thing that happens is going to happen in the US, I believe, and I think that was what the rather strange argument being made by Justice Jackson was comparing to interracial marriage is very strong because, well, I think, but I don't think the Supreme Court, and I might be wrong, but I don't think the Supreme Court can tell a state that has jurisdiction over a matter that it can and can't do something because it's harmful to children, or because it's this and that, or
because you.
Know this argument. You know the Cast Review in the UK said this or that.
All the Supreme Court can do is decide whether or not what the state is doing is unconstitutional. If it violates the US Constitution, then they can say, sorry, you can't do this, because our job is to uphold the US Constitution. And I think what the Justice would have been saying is that.
It's hard to sort of get.
An idea, but the Constitution says you're not allowed to treat people differently based on race. She said with Tennessee before tried to say, well, we're banning into racial marriage. We're not treating people differently based on race. The ban applies both to both equally, and that would be what the state is saying here that it applies to everybody,
so it's not actually unconstitutional. Whereas the whereas the Supreme Court could potentially find that anything that has some laws for some people, say for example women and roe versus Wade or versus men, and not for other people, that could be unconstitual.
I think that's the arguments she's trying to make, but it's a weird.
One in a very nonsensical way.
I don't see how that is very relevant at all, Justice Jackson. But of course we know the Supreme Court does have a majority of conservatives on it, so I'm sure I'm pretty confident we can.
Be confident of a good ruling in this case.
Back to Australia now, where Daniel Molino Labor MP has called Australia Day contraversal.
Here he was last night talking to Shari.
Australia Day has evolved further and it is fair to say that it has become somewhat controversial in parts of our community, and I think we're in an interesting transition at the moment with Australia Day. I think as a country we are going through a process where different parts of our community are wanting to treat Australia Day differently. I don't know what the endpoint is going to be. What I'd say is there's no single rule here.
What are you talking about, mate?
The polls all say, the balls all say the vast majority of Australians one to Australia Day left alone, one to celebrate our national day and the glorious nation that we live in. It seems to me this entire narrative is around telling us that we can only be ashamed.
Of what the settlers did when they.
Came here, and we can't be proud of what they actually achieved.
This makes absolutely no sense.
And like I keep saying, Joe, you can't change the date of a birthday, and we all know even if he did change the date, everyone would still have the same issue with the new date because you are essentially still celebrating the exact same thing.
Well, there are lots of sort of bvides can do this, I mean.
The first thing to say is that Danie Moleno was just the epitome of a person, a politician who is trying to say absolutely nothing while keeping the words coming from his mouth so it didn't look like it was absolutely nothing, while at the same time having a panic attack, while at the same time trying to realize the exact
composition of his electorate of Fraser but I think. I think firstly, there will be obviously politicians who represent the lefier and leftier, more affluent in the suburbs, who are worried about a backlash against them from all the activists who don't like Australia or whatever and are trying to get seats back from the Greens in the case of the Labor Party.
And so that's just he doesn't actually believe that he's shilling for votes.
Well, what's he actually saying. He's saying, he's not saying anything. He's not even staking a position on it. He wants to be seen quite evidently, quite evidently, it is controversial. There are protests against it all the time. Point he's not going into swing. He's not going to swing in for it, and he's not going to swing in against it. He's just saying absolutely nothing. I, however, have the perfect
solution for everybody. Do you tell This week marks the I think one hundred and seventieth anniversary of the Eureka Stockade Rebellion, when the Mighty Miners under Peter Lalor rose up against the injustice and tyranny of a government. And it's got absolutely everything you want in a national Day. Firstly, the Eureka flag is an awesome flag.
It looks really good.
It's been it's been co opted by the far right and the far left. You could bring it back to the mainstream and say no, you guys don't get to take it.
Sorry cfm AU.
Sorry is the white supremacist neo Nazis we're taking It's going to be our flag now.
It looks really good, looks better.
It wouldn't be controversial at all than any of the other flags that have been put forward as a suggestion to replace the current standard that we have.
This is a moment that appeals you're talking.
About replacing the flag as well as Australia Day.
Everything, because you've got firstly, you've got what a moment, what a moment of national unity?
Right, This is Australia's answer to This is Australia's answer to the Boston Tea Party, because these are miners rising
up and say no taxation without representation. But it's also workers rising up for their rights, and so again it appeals to both the right and the friends of liberty and no taxation without representation, and it also appeals to the left because of course it's all about defending workers' rights in the face of an exploitative colonialist government, and just to even just put this perfect little cherry on
the top. It is also a great celebration of multiculturalism because far from being the sort of all white Anglo Irish miners who were rising up and everything, the first death at Areka Stockade, I think it was the first person hanged after they were all rounded up, or whether the were gone, the spot was actually a black African American.
One of the first. The history was written by Raphael Carboni, so yes, it was a multi ethnic thing. I'm glad you're catching up because about ten years ago, I think twelve years ago, I suggested this to John Howard. We talked about the one and it became obviously ten years.
Ago, Kell you were talking about changing the date of Australia.
It occurred to me anyway, hang on, hang on, I've worked through this. I know what's wrong. It's a bad idea, and it's a bad idea because in fact it's not a big national significant event. It's not big enough. It didn't start the country in the way the American Revolution did and their independence day July the fourth did for them. You can't change a birthday. You were born on the twenty third of June. We can't pretend you weren't. You were modern Australia began on the twenty sixth of January.
We can't pretend otherwise. And nailed it because when she said, we have got to stop being ashamed of settlement, because that's what everyone wants. If we changed it to would say we're ashamed of settlement. We're not ashamed of settlement. We've got to say people came here who had a developed civilization which they shared in the end with the people who were Do you know what happened when Australia
was claimed for a Britain. Every person living here, every human being, whether they were indigenous or they were convictors, became a British citizen under the British law. They and they got all these gifts such are settlers. They got engineering, they got the wheel, which they hadn't better, They got a written language, they got trial by jewy, they got presumption of innocent. Huge amounts of things arrived. Settlement was good. We must stop being ashamed of settlement.
I think first thing first, just to create the historical record before it comes in There was no Australia in seventeen eighty eight, and there was no Australia until nineteen oh one New Year's Day. That was when the nation of Australia was born. What happened on what happened on seventeen eighty eight was that Arthur Philip raised the flags except the win Jackson except I thought it was a birthday and there was no way you could change birthday.
Well, it was ready raised the flags. No one.
Subjects, not citization day.
It's been yeah, but not the foundation of Australia.
That was the foundation of the Colony of New South Wales CULP, which is the rit Australia.
All the same rights, all the same privileges.
Et cetera, all the same diseases.
I genuinely think the settlers always get such a bad end of the straw because throughout Western history they're like, oh, these white people came to our country, and wasn't it terrible. Really, they were visiting ancient tribes who hadn't.
Figured out how to make.
A will, yet they bought with them medicine, the idea of government, how to run a cohesive society, lay.
Roads or probably didn't have the medicine that.
We brought, all the better for nobody.
Know we didn't have We didn't bring the many medicine when the diseases were killing you. We didn't have the medicine for the diseasion, and you were allowed to beach of free country. We had not ashamed of settlement.
You just have to acknowledge the history. You just have to get the history right.
We can acknowledge the history, but.
None of it. The history that's completely wrong.
The killer they said at the top of the topic, we are being told to be ashamed of that which happened, which we all know about, which was shameful, without being allowed to then be.
It's the same if you want to say, as you would say, we came here with the best of intentions.
There was a from King George. It said, please treat.
The native populations with the utmost friendliness and care, and Arthur Philip did try to do that, and then there was some violence and things escalated, but both sides. That's yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. There was violence between both of them, So there was initially some of the For the first few weeks of the colony, everyone lived together really well, and then there was I think there was some Arthur Phillip said anyone who harms the native will be hung or hanged, sorry.
Hung, and they were hung.
And then there and then there was some black violence against white and so those people were inscald.
Yeah, that's right.
That's why I'm explaining it to you. But you could say, and you can actually say, and what you should say is that we brought all manner of disease that which was by far the biggest killer of them. We didn't have any medicine for it. All we had was a natural immunity that they did not. It wiped out half their population. But we didn't do it on purpose. It wasn't done with malice. It wasn't a state orchestrated genocide as has happened in other countries. There was settler violence
on the frontiers down the track. But that's how you tell the story. You tell it proper, you don't wrap it up in a little pink bo and say, wasn't.
It all We want to.
Keep us citizens Australia and we didn't have any medicines.
So's just we've got to.
Go to a break now.
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Kel you've got the Australian.
I have got the Batchee Daily and the big splash headline on the front page says b B two pm, you are inviting terrorism. So it's the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanya who writing to our Prime minister. The story says, quote the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnia, who has strongly criticized the Albanezi government over its retreating support for Israel and promotion of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations.
In comments provided exclusively to The Australian, the office of mister Niah who said, quote the disappointing change in position of the United Nations would undoubtedly quote invite more terrorism and more anti Semitic riots on Western campuses and city centers, including they say Australia. I find it really bizarre. I don't understand why Penny Wong and Anthony Albanesi are taking the position they have for a long time. It was
a bipartisan position by all the major parties. We will support the state of Israel, it's the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. It's a democratic notion in the Middle East. They our allies. Bob Hawk certainly took this line, and for some reason, Pennywong and Anthony Alberanesi have taken the line of no, no, no. Our traditional support for Israel is gone, and we're going to support the Palestinians. They don't seem to understand they're even out of step with
the Palestinians. They keep talking about a two state solution. The official Palestinian line is a one state solution that runs from the Mediterranean seat of the jaw Ord River, with no Israel in between. So I simply I cannot grasp what they think they're achieving, except perhaps propping up the votes of Muslim voters in some Australian electrics. Surely, Joe, they wouldn't be as calible.
The true state solution thing hasn't changed.
That's exactly the same as it was under Bob Hawk, as it is under Anti Albanesi. I think the difference has been that they have been more forthright in advancing the case for the establishment and recognition of Palestine as a sovereign state. So back in the old days, think the whole thing was just in the too hard baskets. Oh, yes, we believe in a true state solution, okay, everybody.
Yeah, there is no Palestine at the moment, so there's no workable two state solution. What they're trying to do is to go ahead of the facts and pretend there is such a thing as a Palestine.
Well, they're trying to fast track that and that's what this resolution is about, and that's what the previous resolution they support.
It was about.
So they have become more assertive in pursuing the two state solution.
The objective, not more assertive.
They've actually changed their support from the two state solution to pushing something which doesn't exist at the moment and is controlled by terrorists wherever it. Let's stay with the Australian with the National broad treat because it's such a good newspaper. Also on the front page on the top right hand side, there's a story about the salmon Battle, the battle between different aspects of the Labor Party, the bits that Joe agrees with and the bits he doesn't
agree with. The salmon fishing and salmon fishing industry on the West coast of Tasmania is enormous. This story, says Anthony Albanezi has floated a radical solution to the Tasmanian salmon standoff, granting fish farms in Macquarie Harbor as national
interest exemptions from federal environmental laws. The federal environmental laws that could it a few are those being proposed by Taniel Pleppersek, which would say, there is a fish called the mcgean skate, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, and the mcgean skate might actually become extinct because so much of the oxygen is being taken out of the water by
these huge fish farms. And if five thousand people lose their jobs, well, as long as the little skate survives, that's perfectly all right, according to Tanya Blubisik, and lose.
Out on millions hundreds of millions of dollars that salmon brings into the Tasmanian ecmpomy. On top of that, what I can't get about this, Joe, is this has already been hanging over the salmon industry in Tasmanian's heads.
For twelve months. Yeah, what theyck is happening.
And now the Albanezi government has turned around and said, oh, we're just going to wait till after.
The election to make a call.
So you've already lost those votes, because then you've got Dutton who's come out and said, you guys are safe with us.
Even if they.
Do pass something that will trash the industry in Tasmania, we will.
Get rid of it, we will repeel it.
So if you're in the salmon industry in Tasmania, you're already voting liberal.
Why is he now just.
Further confusing it, being like, oh, new idea two seconds to midnight. And again everybody knows because they've already.
Said so they're actually not going.
To make a call before Tasmanians go to the polic.
Well, I suppose they're trying to what they's so you're absolutely right, this is a ridiculous thing. And this the Maugian skate is this weird sort of ray fish. It's very ugly, only lives, it's very ugly. Apparently it's related to the dinosaurs, which I thought the birds were. It only lives in Macquarie Harbor, which is where all the salmon farms are, and so of course all the inner city environmentalists on the mainland, well we have to save this thing.
It's on the verge of extinction.
There are three marginal seats, plus another the seat of Franklin, which I think is the seat of the actual Agriculture and Fisheries Minister. And a nice little twist and she is all over that joint.
She has just on.
She's on the red eye every night back and from from Tasmania, and half the cabinet's been down there as well. They will definitely intervene to stop this ban or suspension or pause on salmon farming going ahead. I guarantee they will absolutely do that. The question is how they do it. So the Environment Minister Taniel Peters has the power in her hands to say right boink not, you can't do the salmon farming and you.
Can't do it for no. He wants to stop her from doing that. He wants to stop her from pausing. That is exactly what he's doing.
That's why, that's why he's the Prime minister. If he's got any leadership, he pulls.
His That's that's right, and that's what he's doing. But that is what he's doing.
As her into his offices. I'm the Prime and ill you to.
Be surprised in the Western system of government. That's not as easy as it looks. That's slightly more Europe and South America. No, he has developed a mechanism by which he can protect this harbor, this industry from anything tany p does.
Do it, all right, that's what he's done.
Okay, Joe tomorrows for him. Do tomorrow's newspapers tell us it's likely to work for well.
No, that's a this is what he's saying. He's saying.
No matter if if Tanniel plup sect does decide to do this, I can carve.
Out interesting Tomorrow's newspaper.
Tomorrow's newspapers say nothing about this whatsoever. Tomorrow's newspaper in fact, and this is one of the greatest things I just love about the news industry, and especially my beloved Daily Telegraphs.
So let's go to look at that. First of all.
No, it's not the fact that Sam Arntige is single again, but that's lovely to know as well. But it is the fact that James Campbell has an exclusive yarn PM's hometown will decide the election new poll Backyard Blitz. Five labor seats in New South Wales are poised to swinging to the Coalition and Peter Utton and next to his federal election. Exclusive new polling shows setting up a fierce
battle in Anthony Albanese's own backyard. Love it great yarn you know Crack and reporter Crack and research Costamaris and Redbridge again who the PM says. I don't think they like me very much because they all their polling seems to be a bit negative.
On porld Albo not just accurate.
Then I was interested to see in the Herald Sun the other great News Corp masthead the exact same yeah, by the exact same reporter James Campbell, but this time.
It's battlevound battleground Victoria.
Exclusive shock poll reveals Coalition on course to pick up at least one labor seat in our state, with four more in balance in mid Angrave Costs a living crisis
James Campbell and George Georgie title as well. Shot view polling shows the Coalition is likely to pick up one seat in Victoria, with another four labor held electorates now in the balance as our state emerges as the key battleground in next year is Freder election, which this news reportage at its fighters talk about the local angle, exact same data, the exact same story, and New South Wales and Victoria.
Have both got no. No, it's our state. It's our state. That's better. I can fortunately settle this. The Daily Telegraph is always right. Of course, that.
Was too predictable.
Just quickly before we go to another break, the NT News has a cracker Tracy, you bitch, symbol of defiance. It became one of the defining images of the destruction wrought by Cyclone Tracy. Now fifty years on, a Darwin Locals crumpled holden tarana has been recreated for the reopening of the Northern Territories Museum and Art Gallery Cyclone Tracy Exhibition. And if you want to know more about that, we did a doco just last week on it, which you can still watch online.
We've got to go to a break, just very quickly, Can we just pull up that image for just one second, because I want to say something very telling. If you look at the back of the tarana, they've spelt Tracy wrong, which I think is the most boguan Australian thing ever. Go Territory do it spelt wrong as well?
It's just amazing. I love it so much.
We've got to go to a break. We'll see you in a few minutes. Don't go away, welcome back. Well.
While his team are talking about preemptive pardons for themselves and the corrupt government that has been where is Biden, you might ask, Well, he's pulling his signature move during a climate meeting in Africa US.
In support of the development of the Orbito Corrido. Tanzania have used the Orbito Corrido as an integral quetro broad strategy connectivity in Africa.
Also the factor that.
He's turned out, I mean, are you going to watch? Are you going to miss the sleep in the last.
Four years, I been to one of those conferences, but I can promise you catching a few z's is the smartest possible course of action that shows a man in the prime of his faculties.
Except that he's caught on camera, which is not wonderful. I've got to say last Christmas, my little grandson's going to be a pair of socks. One sock said, Grandpa is not asleep. The other sock said, he is just resting his eyes. Basically, that's what dear old Joe actually needs. I am I'm just resting my eyes on his shirt.
I'm not asleep. I'm just preemptively pardoning everyone I know.
Before we leave you. Tonight, the UK has.
Unveiled their new top model and it is groundbreaking.
It is history making.
The headline reads, in a historic victory, Alex Consani his crown Model of the Year at the twenty twenty four Fashion Awards.
Why is this historic.
Well because Alex is a man now. Previous winners are famous supermodels that our household names, the likes of Naomi Campbell, Beautiful Woman, Kara Delavine, Kate Moss, who has graced the front pages of every glossy magazine for decades. But of course, would it really be a groundbreaking historic appointment if we didn't include a biological man.
So I didn't even know cifil model.
If I had have known it was opened to biological men, I would have entered myself. Wouldn't have been fair on the other competitors taken.
It home, But well that's it from us. Coming up now is the Rita panahe shot
