The Late Debate | 28 May

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Welcome to the Late Debase.

Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.

I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and freyer Leitch coming up tonight. Our dope of the day A bloke tries to set fire to a restaurant in Melbourne and only succeeds in setting fire to himself.

Will show you that later.

Plus, when we look at what's making news tomorrow, the Coalition announce their shadow Cabinet and Victoria's machete Band results in skyrotting, skyrocketing sales of machetes.

Who would have thought we'll get to all of that shortly.

But first, we live in a time where there are wars and rumors of wars, and the latest rumor is that Israel will soon attack Iran's nuclear facilities. The Israelis believe that Iran, if they choose, could develop a nuclear warhead within about a week. The Israelis also believe that with Iran's air defense system currently in disrepair, there now exists a window of opportunity to attack those nuclear facilities successfully.

If you will cool their jets.

In the Israel Times newspaper, it's said that officials report Trump's message to Benjamin Netan Yahoo is that he doesn't want him to antagonize Iran at a time when Trump himself is trying to solve problems, and while he's keeping the other option, that is an attack open. Trump wants to give a chance to diplomatic talks before Benjamin Netan Yahoo embarks on a military campaign. So the question becomes talks or bombs Caleb, which one.

Well, I think talks in the first instance would be the right thing to do. And of course Trump was talking about this in read a couple of weeks ago that he feels that the interventionist policy of previous administrations has not worked. And I don't think you can argue with that. I mean, I would defy anyone to tell a single instance of the US interfering in the Middle East that has actually worked. We can go through Libya, we can go through Iraq, we can go through Afghanistan,

I want to make a deal with Iran.

If they can make a deal with Iran, I'll be very happy if we're going to make your region and the world a safer place. But if Iran's leadership rejects this alive branch and continues to attack their neighbors, then we will have no choice but to inflect massive maximum pressure drive Iranian oil exports to zero, like I did before.

Now. Of course, the background to this is that there was a nuclear deal done with Iran in twenty fifteen, and Trump pulled out of that in twenty sixteen because he thought it was a bad deal, that it gave too much leeway to Iran. So he pulled out and put sanctions on Iran, and those sanctions were quite successful. It has to be said. Then along comes Joe Biden.

It's a nice idea to assume that we can negotiate with all countries and that we somehow share a set of values and common interests that mean can strike a deal. But I just don't think this is realistic at all. As you mentioned, there have been previous attempts and in fact, previous nuclear deals with Iran, and they have all failed because they benefit Iran lifting sanctions and then guess what, they just go ahead and keep enriching uranium.

Anyway.

They're now enriching uranium at a sixty percent purity, which is almost weapons great, and there is genuine reason to believe that that's a possibility, and that would present an existential threat to Israel. And I think the other challenge here for Trump is he came in on this peace through strength doctrine, which is essentially deterrence, right, But deterrence relies on the enemy knowing that at some point you might actually take actions, military actions against them. Hence why

Going to do?

What is he going to do to shut down their nuclear weapons?

He's fuck concerned with Trump and talks because remember Trump made a big deal of Hamas. When Trump comes in, the hostages will be released. Otherwise he'll unleash hell will Hamas are still in control of the Gaza Strip. The same accusation could be made of Trump's negotiations with Putin that Putin just doesn't seem to believe that Trump will wield the stick as he says he will. And when you're dealing with Iran, you said, can you negotiate with

At some point, enough talk. You've got to defend yourself.

Yeah, but if you don't give Trump a chance to at least try and achieve something. And Trump's ultimate goal is to achieve some level of stability in the Middle East, and you're not even giving it a go. He's made it clear, he told the Ayatoller, if you don't meet my demands, I will get involved militarily. So he's already put that on the table.

He also told He also told her mass if all the hostages weren't released by the inauguration or hell would break loose, and it didn't, so at some point he has to back up these threats.

But you have to be somewhat reasonable in these things. I mean, if you want full scale war in the Middle East and I don't, then you can go in and just start throwing bombs and stuff with it.

And everywhere right.

Now agree with that characterization. It's not that you want full scale war in the war.

In the Middle East.

It's you don't want a nuclear bomb going off in the Middle East, and that's why you would engage in a military action now to prevent the worst military action down the track.

Of course, but that's also the point of achieving the deal, is to prevent the nuclear bomb from being created. If you are saying that there is no deal that can be struck that will prevent a nuclear bomb from being created, and that simply targeting their infrastructure at the moment will prevent it, I mean that goes straight back to the drawing board. They're not going to stop, so your only other solution is to wipe you around off the face of the planet. Do we want to do that?

That's what Irana threatening for Israel. So you can understand why the Israelis but of course.

I understand that. But then you go and do it, and then you end up with full scale war in the Middle East. This is the problem is that you don't actually genuinely solve anyim They'll go on for time immemorial until we actually wipe someone off the face of the planet, and no one really wants to have that discussion because of war.

Until IRA walk away from their ideological stamps, which they never will. So at some point this blows up. Well it is literally, and who chooses the timing of it?

Yeah, literally, it blows up. Let's move to some lighter international news. We'll get into the details of King Charles's visit to Canada very shortly, but I could not get

I disagree with you, Kelly. There is an you wear them, well, I've got them on right now. But there is a reason why you would wear sneakers at an event where the king is speaking, and the reason is you want everyone to look at you. How else to have the attention on yourself when you've got the King of England there, Well, you commit a.

Fashion faux pass such as he has done.

And what are we talking about Before we even get to talking about what the King said. We're talking about justin Trudeau mission accomplished, frail.

I don't even think the sneakers were the worst part of this. I can tolerate sneakers. I'm a sneaker advocate. But the main problem was the sneakers didn't even match the suit.

He could have.

Gone for a tasteful white and nice navy something to compliment.

Hester and proved my point. They wanted to teach.

This is a clearly obvious move. He wanted to stand out, he wanted to draw attention from the king, and he didn't even Yeah, see that's look at that that green in that blue they classed.

But it's the fact that this sneak is at all. I don't care if the Navy or wife or whatever. This is a hill I'm willing to die on. We have to maintain some level of standards in this world or we will end up in a place where everyone goes to work in their pajamas. Before COVID, I didn't wear a tie to work. But then you know, obviously I was working from home for all that time, my pajamas all bloody day, and I got sick of it, so I started wearing a suit and tie to work

Were you wearing a suitain tie when you're working from home?

No, no, no no. When I went back to what you were saying, you've got stuff at home, pajamas, the mood, and I was like, I can't do this anymore. So I wore a certain time of it. But it shows respect to the people around you that I have put in the effort to look good because I take my job seriously and I take my workplace seriously, and I'm sorry, going to work with your sneakers on makes it look

Walking into the studio tonight wearing a T shirt or hoodie. Did you sort of give me the side of it.

You've been doing it for two and a half hears, so I'm kind of used to it now. But yes, I would never do.

Fashion standards change over time. What people wear now, especially post COVID. Most people don't even wear suits to work anymore.

I'm actually with Caleb that it was highly inappropriate, but I know why he did it.

Do you think it was inappropriate or do you think it was okay.

For this occasion. I think it's inappropriate, but I defend sneakers in suits. But let's move on and listen to what the King said in the Canadian Parliament. Obviously, in the lead up to the Canadian election, there was a lot of tension with Trump saying that he wanted Canada to become the fifty first state, and in fact, the Prime Minister Mark Conney essentially turned the tide of the

Canada Fairs is another critical moment. Democracy. Pluralism, the rule of law, self determination, and freedom are values which Canadians hold dear and ones which the government is determined to protect.

So kind of uneventful, kind of what you would expect from a tour of its designed to reinforce Canada against America.

Kind of ridiculous though, don't you think.

I mean, the whole thing about Trump making Canada fifty first state of the United States was always a joke. He was ribbing them about their need to pay their fair share. I'm just surprised that Charles took that seriously and gave it sort of that kind of gravitus when most thinking people realized Trump was just being Trump.

Well, the thing is, King Charles didn't actually write this speech. He was given the speech by the Prime Minister, and the prime minister's whole mandate for reelection was to be the anti Trump, pro Canada candidate. So he's now got to keep up this facade that Canada is under threat from the United States in order to maintain his political relevance.

Really, it's the.

Same as when the Governor General opens parliament here.

I mean, but he still chooses to read it some respect.

I'm sorry, it is convention that he reads.

It's like an invention that you speak the truth, you don't speak rubbish because you've been told to.

No, you're making it sound like he's just there to be a part.

Is essentially that like it is, it is.

Convention that the king or the head of stage or the Governor General in whatever circumstances, reads the opening of the Parliament from the government. It's not the words of the king. It's not the words of the governor.

Should have rolled his eyes as he read it.

Look, look, you just we've learned that you have no regard for tradition. Tonight. You think it's okay to wear sneakers with your your suit and men. You think it's it's it's okay to throw away all this tradition about how we open our parlor.

It gets even worse because have a look at this clip from King Cha. I was reading somebody else's speech the acknowledgment of the traditional owners have listened.

I would like to acknowledge that we are gathered on the unseeded territory of the Algonquin and the Shinabeg people. It is my great hope that in each of your communities, and collectively as a country, a path is found toward truth and reconciliation in both word and deed.

Hang on, sower.

The king just sat there and said, I'm the king of unseeded territory. So is that a dig or is it an admission that maybe he shouldn't be there?

Well, what does that make him a conqueror? Like I'm not actually sure and what legitimacy does he have now? And the fact is Canada is even more clear than Australia because they've had treaties with the indigenous people as far back as the seventeen hundreds. It is well documented they've had an extensive history of land sales and treaties. So the whole thing honestly preposterous.

Well, I mean it was a humiliation ritual really that they put the king through there, and the sad thing is that he actually has to rock up and do it, you know.

Well literally just made by point hit.

But he's a figure hit. I mean, the monarch is always a figurehead. We know that that's not you, James, but it is. It's almost like, at the same time as they're trying to use the King to send a message to the United States, back off. You know, you're you're not going to be one of us, because we're not going to be one of you because we're part of the Commonwealth. While they're using the King to do that, they're at the same time humiliating him by making him

So all of a sudden, justin Trudeau sneakers were not the most disrespectful part of it.

There were many disrespectful parts.

And honestly, it was so funny looking at all the reactions to this on X because I've never seen so many leftists supporting the monarchy as they are now. It's crazy to see. But let's move on now to Victoria, where the chief executive of Santos has compared Victoria to North Korea. Take a listen to this.

But if I think about Queensland, Northern Territory, South Australia, Western Australia, these are actually very supportive jurisdictions, They're.

Very development friendly.

Victoria, Victoria, North Korea, They're in a different categories altogether.

I mean, is he wrong when you have blanket bans on gas connections in new homes and businesses, it is essentially uninvestible, extensive government control over almost every aspect of the gas industry.

He might be right, No.

I think it's very unfair on North Korea to say that. He went on to say if he had a dollar to invest in Australia or in Papua New Guinea in the same circumstance, the same business, he wouldn't hesitate to spend that in Parpa New Guinea because he was confident that he could get the project approved and finished. He had no such confidence regarding Victoria. I must say he

And Gallagher is a straight shooter and a very good operator and has been a very good boss at Santos, and you can hardly blame him. I mean, I think we've all seen Gcinta Amen or should it be Jinto jong Un recently. I think we've got a photograph of her here there we go and it's not real. I don't need to point that out, but that's sort of

Melbourne will become known as a Phenong Peng of the South.

I want to talk about a story from the UK that really got my attention today. Here's a question, how old is too old to have a baby? And I don't mean to naturally conceive a baby. I suppose biology and nature determine the answer to that question.

But have a look at this headline.

A couple in their seventies in the UK have won the right to parent a surrogate baby. Now, this couple, man and a woman of seventy two years of age. They used the man's sperm and a donut egg to have a child, which was then impregnate or to conceive. It was impregnated in a surrogate in the US who gave birth to the baby, and now the couple have been legally approved to parent this surrogate.

Now.

The reason they did this, they said, was because they had a son who died in twenty twenty at the age of twenty seven. He died of cancer, and they said they've always missed him, and so as a way of helping to deal with their own grief, they really wanted another child, and so this is what they've done.

Now.

Having a baby at age seventy two means this child will start primary school when they are seventy six, high school when they're eighty two. And this child on his eighteenth birthday, Mom and dad will be eighty nine years of age.

Freyer their healthy, they're wealthy. Anything wrong with this?

Yes, I mean now we're at the point where with commercial surrogacy, they're not only ripping this baby away from the woman who gave birth to the child, which is morally questionable in and of itself, they are also depriving the child of having proper parents because they're not the age of parents, they're the age of grandparents or even in some instance's great grandparents.

This child will be their care yes.

Correct, and I don't see how that is fair if they are trying to deal with their own grief. That's very sad that they lost their son. But here's an idea, go to counseling, adopt or look after friend's children people in the community. You don't need to bring a life into this world that you are not ready or prepared to care for. It's unfair to the child and this

I mean, it's supremely selfish of these two people to decide that, at the age of seventy two they want to have a child, And of course they can't have a child by natural means, because of course, you know, seventy two, you've well and truly been through a menopause, right, And so it's not unusual to have older fathers. But generally you have an older father with a younger mother because she's still of an age where she can conced So even if dad drops off the twig, mom is

So just point out one little hypocrisy, at least I think it is. As I was reading comments on this story today online, a lot of people really outraged about this, and it's not fair on the child. You're bringing a child into the world who's never going to have both

It's a very fair point. Now, of course, last night we talked about the fact that the proposal to sell rose Hill Racecourse for five billion dollars to the state government fell through because the members of the Australian Turf Club said they would prefer to keep it as a racecourse.

The truth of the matter is it feels like the closeness of the result makes it more difficult to take, not easier. And I think it's an opportunity that Sydney's missed out on a few It was like a goal and opportunity that slipped through our fingers. Very disappointed by that, but I accept the decision.

So with the proposition of trashing the great sport of racing off the agenda, he says, well, I've got a few other ideas.

We've got proposals that we're getting ready to roll out for more housing closer to Sydney CBD. They're not ready for me to announce today and not everyone will love them, but they're absolutely necessary for Sydney now.

One of these ideas is to apparently develop the Glebe Island Port in Sydney, which is basically right next to the city. It's in the Rosehill Balmain area right, So it's the only working port left in Sydney, and much like the rose Hill idea, he says, here's a bit of useful operating infrastructure that we currently have that is doing things and we should turn it into housing instead. I've no issue with the idea that. I mean, obviously we need more housing and we'll come to the regional

Seems like this is chris Min's only plan.

First in one of the race course turned into housing that didn't work. Now it's a port turning into housing. If that doesn't work, he says he's got other ideas. I just can't say them yet, but here on the late debate we can let you know. His other ideas are the botanic gardens.

And if that doesn't work.

The Sydney Cricket Ground we have turned into housing, and why not those after that?

Why not knock over the art gallery?

I know right, No, he does seem to be a little bit obsessed with this. But look, as someone who very recently lived in Rosel, I can tell you that that whole precinct you've also got the White Bay power station and a cruise terminal. It is rather ugly. It is ripe for development, and there is going to be

Well, if you want your traditional Aussie home, the solution is to get out of the capital cities and move to a regional city, and increasingly Australians are doing that. Twenty five percent more people are moving from capital cities to regional centers than the other way around. Geelong is now the most popular regional center for people to move to internal migration in Australia nine point three percent of people moving within the country and moving to Geelong. Sunshine

And more and more people are saying that's the way to.

Go, and it is the solution. And I don't know why we don't talk about this more. What is with this obsession with putting everyone in the capital cities. You look at the United States, and I will preface this by saying that the United States has some of the most densely populated cities in the world. But you look across the expanse of the United States and it is

Coast, and the Gold Coast is a rat race.

Yeah yeah, yeah, But largely we just stay in the cities. We haven't created these small centers. That is the solution. There's land, cheap land available. We keep all these margarets coming in, and we shouldn't have coming in, by the way. But just you can't go to the city, You've got to go to a region. Bugger off.

Well, part of the problem is that the government hasn't been willing to build the infrastructure to connect the regions to the cities, and that's what's really holding it back. Plus they are unwilling to release more land in a lot of cases. But let's move on now to another

Out.

As you can see there she is clearly a well the biological or male player in the blue is clearly significantly larger than the female opponents, literally knocking one player onto the ground. Now, I must say it's refreshing to see a sporting league actually come out and defend women's rights to safety in sport. But meanwhile, while this competition has banned transgender players, Netball Victoria is still conducting a review into whether it is actually safe for transgender people

Fair that local league really had to ban that.

There's two transgender players who have now been banned for the rest of the year because other teams were threatened to boycott. So it's going to destroy the competition. But you're right, Victorian Netbull, who oversee the whole sport where they're conducting an investigation which they say must be thorough and considered.

I don't know how thorough it needs to be.

We just saw video of the blatant obvious biological males have an advantage.

They put out a.

Statement, Victorian Netball saying we continue to support our lgbtt LGBTQ plus.

Community forgive you that way.

Thank you, and we're committed to providing a safe and inclusive netball environment for all our participants. The thing I can't understand is why their emphasis still even after video footage like that. Their instinctive response is all but we're very inclusive and we're very much concerned about the LGBTQ community.

What about the girls playing.

The sport fairness? I suppose it's just not a virtue these days. I mean that chap is built like a brick, you know what, house like. Do we really need to investigate whether or not it is unsafe to put biological males on the court with women? It just seems very strange. And speaking of these matters, props to this young fella in the United States, Liam Morrison. He's taken case all the way to the Supreme Court where it's being chucked out.

What did my shirts say? Fathooble words? There are only two genders, nothing harmful, nothing threatening, just to steam, and I believe to be a fact. I have been told that my shirt was targeting a protected class? Who is this protected class? Are their feelings more important than my rates?

The Supreme Court refused to hear the case. They upheld the decision of the first Circuit court, which said the school was right to tell him to take it off because it could be harmful to others students. I mean, you know we're in a position now. Were it harmful to say the truth?

Please? Yeah?

I mean it's a biological fact, isn't it. It's not a political statement. So next he'll be banned from wearing a shirt that says the sky is blue because someone takes exception to it. And the other question I've got is, if you can't wear a T shirt saying there are only two genders? Could you wear a T shirt saying there are only three genders or only ten genders? Or could you wear a T shirt saying there are infinite an indefinite number of genders. There are at least at

And it's interesting to see how in these cases, time and time again, they only care about the concerns of a select minority group. When they're running Pride day, I doubt they're worrying about how offensive that might be for Christian or Muslim students. But when someone rocks up with a statement of fact on their T shirt, oh no, that's too far.

Speaking of going too far in the consideration of other people's feelings, just before we go to the break, a professor from London University. He's an expert on food policy. His name is Professor Tim Lang. He's been talking about the need for countries to stockpile food in case of the apocalypse or nuclear explosion or some sort of natural disaster. And that makes sense, but because of you won't believe

Because he said, if you go through.

A psychological shock like an earthquake or a nuclear war, and then you've gone through all of that and then the food that the government gives you is well not vegan friendly or not hallal compliant, I mean that would just add shocked to shock and you would not cope.

Is this the most.

Fragile or slash entitled generation in history? Imagine getting it to the apocalypse. You survive, but you're pissed off because they haven't got your favorite food.

Well, I just imagine all the GFD if people feel really left out too, because you know, their problems are just as legitimate as the others are they seriously, you just be glad to get anything exactly.

We're to go to a break.

When we come back, we look at what's making news tomorrow, including victorious Maschetti band results in greater sales of machetes.

That's at a moment.

Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. Will start with the Daily Telegraph, here in New South Wales, and I got to say I'm not that excited about reading this headline. I'll try to read it with enthusiasm, but as a former Queenslander.

It's not easy.

Just good to Oh is Brian to Oh, the New South Wales player who scored an important try in tonight's game, which of course was won by New South Wales eighteen to six. Blues draw first blood in sun Corp epic. So there you go, three game series. New South Wales lead one nil. Haven't seen the Career Males front page for tomorrow, but I suspect it won't be quite as triumphant as that of the Daily Telegram.

Well they could just do a quite similar headline, just go to oh, you know, that's how you'd be feeling if you were in Quex right now, wouldn't you. Let's go to the front of the OS tomorrow where it says Lee's target not a lot of net zero. Susan Lee has declared she will not pursue a net zero missions target at any cost as she faces a backbench push to go to the next election with about a

Go on.

She will not pursue that zero. She won't pursue NET zero at any cost. Or she won't pursue zero at any cost. It's a little bit confused.

Well, yeah, she's what she's saying.

First I got excited when I.

Yeah, no, no, no, Well, what she was saying today essentially was that she agrees with the idea that we need to combat climate change, et cetera, but we can't do it at any cost, right, we do actually need to take account of what it means to the people. So she is kind of opening the doors potentially getting rid of NED zero. But that's a decision that the party room will have to make, and obviously they will do

Hum.

Well, you can kind of understand why Jane Hume got the punt after she came up with the working from home policy that was so distractive during the campaign.

Or was it the backflip that was destructive?

Well, no, I mean they backflipped on the basis of the polling, and the polling I don't think was wrong, but it made them look either they went went out and they went out with a piece of policyat that wasn't popular, and then they looked even weaker by walking back.

Jamimes is also one of their best media performers. So that's the other challenge that I think they're going to face. They've lost some good media performance, Jane's Hume, just enter Price as well.

And there's less women in their shadow cabin now than there were. So all this talk about we're going to connect with women, what happened to that? And she's got rid of as you said, just in the NAPA. Gymber Prices is out well, Gizelle, but she's not in the shadow ministry.

I mean, Gizelle Captarian hasn't even won the seat of Bradfield yet and she's in the outer shadow ministry. So it is interesting. I mean, this is definitely a shadow ministry about rewarding one's friends and dampening one's foes. So it'll be interesting to.

See how there were a few decent apployments. So I think I think Tim Wilson to small business makes sense. I think Dan Teene will do well.

In Andrew Hasty is out of defense.

But he's into home affairs though, and that is a serious portfolio.

I know Aison he was great in that portfolio.

Yeah, but he'll do great. I mean, look, they're all good operators and they will all do great things. But you know, Barnaby Joyce not being part of it, you know, and Barnaby Joyce is a good effective well Canavan wouldn't want it, I don't think. But Barnaby Joyce I think is better inside the tent than out of it. Another story on the front. While we're talking about defense of the old Tomorrow, Labour's defense disconnect leaves nation guarded by

There's one line in this article that I really like. He says, when the Labor Party talked about excuse me, talk about making a you're gonna have to take I've just lost my voice.

You go, well, I think this is definitely something we've all known, and under the last government there have been I think it was over forty billion dollars of cuts and reprioritization of capabilities in the Defense Force to try and pay for ORCUS. But this is the problem. You can't bring on a massive new project like ORCUS without increasing your overall spend because what that means is you're just going to have to suck money out of other things.

That I got my voice back. I've got to tell you this line. He said.

When you see the Labor Party talking about how they're making a generational investment, what they mean is the next generation will have to do it because we're not doing it right now.

And it has been thus for quite some time. Another story on the front of the oars miners and critical minerals producers will be hit by Labour's unrealized capital gains tax as self managed super funds will pull millions of dollars out of high risk businesses such as exploration companies, warm the chief executives of resources companies and their investors, and again I get it's a cash grab, but I

Well, another area where this is super confusing is startups. If you're super annuation company invests in a startup that suddenly goes up massively in value, you're all going to be landed with a huge tax bill and then what if the next year it goes bust, then you don't get that money back. So it's pretty nuts. But let's move on now to the Herald Sun, where the headline

And winja center.

Ellen was asked on Monday, why wouldn't you apply the ban immediately other than wait until noon on Wednesday. She said we wanted to give retailers time. She didn't say the next part to discount their blades so they could get rid of them. And so if you're a gang member in Melbourne, happy days, four bucks for a blade.

It's really good going. So there you go.

What did they think would happen? Really? Oh? Oh god?

So it's a story Victorian labor party though unintended consequences in pretty much every area.

Now, now you know what else you can't sell in Victoria illegal cigarettes, and yet you can buy them in every convenience store in the state.

Let's go to Tasmani. The front page of the Hobart Mercury headline reads troubled waters fairies face more delays.

I can't believe this story.

Tasmania's replacement bas straight fairies will remain on the other side of the world for an indefinite period while repairs are made to fixate problem uncovered during sea trials. Now, these fairies were supposed to be completed in twenty twenty one, where now what twenty twenty five, and they're hoping to have them now by well, we don't know when we'll get them. The problem originally was that the port in

And I think the Irish wanted to float it and turn it into a refugee camp today while they waited. You send it the Anians.

We're going to lease it out as a refugee camp and then finally get it.

Back to probably the infrastructure.

All right, we're going to go to a break. When we come back, we're going to show you dope of the day.

You won't believe what this Melbourne criminal did to himself that's coming up in a moment. We don't talk about Russian TV too often, but Fray, they've got a new cartoon that is of interest in the.

Country of Russia. They do well.

I think everyone's concerned about how we instill patriotism into our children. The Russians have really taken this on and one of their most infamous propagandists have produced a new cartoon for children to teach them about geopolitics and the world. Some of the characters featured include Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Kim Jong Un.

Check it out.

Must the Muscape bullets.

So those are all the world leaders in a like a babyface filter meeting on a zoom call to discuss geopolitics, which is pretty hilarious. But as I was watching that, I got a bit upset and I thought, well, where were Albanese's invite if he World leader propaganda Zoom summit. And so you know, we did a bit of mocking up on Ai behind the scenes, and this is what

The poor bag has already gone gray as a baby, and he does versifully have a little more here than you, James, though I think actually that is giving him a bit of a free ride because he's here, isn't all that much different to yours, James, if you look at him from.

Behind, just get on with the show.

You know, it's just an occupational hazard. You've got to deal with it, James. HR will deal with me later. No they won't. I have a perfect record of course. Actually actually become a big thing as well. Now people are doing this with like other clips, they get AI to generate baby versions. I've seen it of like Clarkson's farm and top gear and stuff. It's quite amusing really.

I think it's called karma. I think.

I don't think he would have filled any karma after he left the restaurant.

Put it that way, Well, that's all we've got time for. But stick around Coming up is the readA Pennety Show, good Night