Lateens General Man, welcome to the Late Debase.
Well, it's great to have your company. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. We all know there's a massive crime crisis in the United States, but police have started arresting alligators.
Will show you that a little later.
And when we look at the papers, claims that twelve hundred Chinese spies are operating on Australian soil and school teachers in far North Queensland have been advised to go to bed with a duress alarm at hand. We'll talk about all of that when we get to the papers. But last night we told you how the Chinese government was intimidating Australian politicians who attended a pro Taiwanese event
here in Sydney. The Chinese Consulate General sent intimidating emails to one federal and ten state MPs, warning their attendants at a celebration for the new Taiwanese Prime Minister risked harming Chinese Australian relations. Or The email warned our MPs that their attendants sent the wrong messages to the outside world. So our politicians have been told you always check with the Chinese Communist Party before you accept any invitations to
meet people from your New South Wales electorates. Now, reporting of all of this, including the emails that were sent by the Chinese Consulate, these were published in the Daily Telegraph obviously hit a nerve and embarrassed the Communist Party because now they've taken aim at the Daily Telegraph firing off this email to the newspaper. The Consulate General regrets to see that your news report merely focuses on the
reactions of the relevant MPs. The report also lacks a comprehensive and objective view of the historical background the legal facts of the Taiwan question, and misrepresents the original intention of this Consulate General in sending the email. It goes on to say, it's hope that in the future you can conduct news reporting with a professional, objective, fair and responsible attitude and principle. Fancy that the Chinese Communist Party
being experts on the free press. Now, leaving aside the fact that that email sounds to me like it was written with the help of chat GPT Caleb, they're treating Australian politicians and in the Australian media as if they answer to the Communist Party already.
Well, as I said last night, we are getting a taste here of what Australia will be like under Chinese rule. I mean clearly they think the Daily Telegraph is the People's Daily or something, which is of course an arm of the Chinese Communist Party, and they can tell the media, which in China, of course is state media, exactly what
to say. The hide of the Consulate General to think it can dictate to not only politicians what events they should or should not be going to, but now telling free media in Australia what they should and should not be reporting on and how they should be reporting on it. They think think they can do anything they want without impunity.
It's pretty obvious and right through all of this is this underlying threat that if you don't do what we tell you to do, then you threaten the links between Australia and China, which of course the Federal government has been working on repairing since they came to power. What they're saying is, if you don't do what we want you to do, well, who knows, maybe we'll cut off your wine exports again. Maybe we'll cut off your meat. Maybe we'll cut off your barley, your wheat, et cetera,
et cetera. It's pretty clear what they're doing. These people are absolute bullies. We have to understand when we deal with China, we're not dealing with our friends in Indonesia or Canada or the US. We're dealing with a communist country that ultimately will sell us up the river any opportunity they get in.
The irony of this like, they're not the ones harming Australia.
China regt.
I know by sending these threatening things to sitting MPs. I love that many of the free press in Australia, our media outlets. It's nearly on every single front page tomorrow, as you'll see when we get there about the twelve hundred China spies. So clearly we're not too worried about upsetting China.
In fact, we rather like it.
But speaking of upsetting Australia, years ago, I started reading the Global Times because of course nothing is published by the CCP that hasn't been run through the Ministry of Truth, so it's their.
Direct line to the people of China.
They regularly refer to Australia as gum on their shoe Canberra is just a small dog running around yapping after Washington. Our MPs don't even know what they're doing. We just follow America. They have a few points of truth there, but it is ridiculous how insulting their press is to Australia.
On the daily.
I read it as comic relief because it's actually hilarious the way they speak about us, our MP's, our country and how we're such a little consequence.
And they're the real bosses in town.
So with this sort of bullying and intimidation of our media and of our politicians, what are the chances that the Australian government will haul the Chinese ambassador in and give him a good dressing down and tell him this is a democracy, this is not how we operate.
About as much chance as me saying I hate jumps racing, I suspect, But can you imagine, like the PMO writing off to China and so we weren't very happy with that report you put in the Global Times or the People's Daily about our country. I hope next time you can deal in fair and accurate reporting. It would never happen. China would write back and say, who the hell do you think you are well.
Scott Morrison did say he wasn't that happy about COVID and look where that got.
Well exactly. But this is what they're threatening is that if you do anything we don't like, be retribution for it. And we've been there before and we know how damaging it was to us economically, and now they're threatening to do the same thing over some MP is going to
celebrate the inauguration of a new president of Taiwan. If anything, it indicates to us why we should go harder in our support for Taiwan, and Penny Long should be on a plane going to visit Taiwan and meet with the new president very shortly, just to stick it up the Chinese a little bit.
Well, that's the irony, isn't it.
The fact that we don't do anything about this and we tolerate it simply sends the message that we are prepared to be bullied, we are prepared to be pushed around, and you can carry on correct erect more of the same.
Anyway, Let's move on to a great idea from the opposition today, which is that students who are at universities at the moment, foreign students in particular, who are chanting from the river to the sea. Participating in these encampments should have their visas revoked and be sent home. Hallelujah. Now, remember many years ago when John Howard said, we will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come. We seem to be much more larse
a fair these days. You know, have you got a skill or two shore you can come in in numbers going up into the millions. Oh you know you might study something here. Good, We will have you. We ought to reserve the right as a country to decide at any time. And we've been having this discussion about criminals, of course, who are not citizens of this country and whether or not they should be allowed to remain here. And we'll get into that again in the papers later
in the show. But surely as a country we should be able to say, if you have come to Australia as a foreign student to learn in this country, if you don't want to participate in our culture and our beliefs and contribute to the betterment of this country, you deserve to go home. Here was James Patterson, the Opposition Home Affairs shadow minister, talking about exactly this idea today, there's no.
Doubt we've seen unprecedented president levels of anti semitism on campus. Some of the people involved in that are very clearly foreign students who are here as guests in our country. That violated the principles of their time as visitors here, and they should be sent home now.
I cannot think of any logical argument against doing this right. We have allowed people to come here, and of course the universities will probably kick up a stink because you know, they can just see the dollar signs in their eyes that come from these foreign students who pay full toy dots.
But we should absolutely reserve the right to decide that if you have come here on a visa, which is us gifting you the opportunity to spend time in our country, that if you do things we don't like, you're on the next plane home, pack your bags and get the hell out of here.
I don't see why foreign students should be allowed to participate in any protests in Australia.
That's going a little bit fast.
Will why not go the whole lot.
I don't have opinions they can well about Australia.
No free speech.
No, you can have free speech, but you're not entitled to protest on domestic issues in Australia if you're a foreign citism.
Well this isn't a domestic issue all right.
But putting that aside, because hornets, there's there. The Greek City Times just reported this evening that the Greek government have told nine university students from other parts of Europe that they're out after participating in a pro Palestinian protest there.
So this is not unprecedented. If Australia did this, grease have just announce that they're doing the exact same thing.
I all just want to look at the chain of command here, because we know that the campuses, the faculties, even the chancellors of these universities have done fat nothing about that. So why then should students be punished so harshly when even professors at their universities, some of which have participated, both Melbourne and Sydney Universities, major elite universities in our nation, have taken it upon themselves to kick
off either visiting lecturers from Israel. They have been basically helping out the mob and succumbing to this mob like mentality. So of course kids getting caught up in this think, oh, we're fighting a righteous cause. Nobody seems to have any any compunction to stomp us out. Why shouldn't we keep going?
And of course it would, you'd have your work cut out for you to single out ringleaders because many of these kids, and as we've shown via pop boxes that we've shown on this show before, they kind of have no idea why they're there.
So to then be kicked out of the country simply.
Because you've participated and may have marched with them as opposing as opposed to being one of the main activists driving the cause, I think it's it's a little bit more complicated than what we've heard.
So who cares? Who cares? I don't care. If you didn't know why you were there, you participated in it, get the hell out, you're.
Only that's the only way they could enforce it.
If it's simply criticizing the Israeli government or you.
Know, the context of you're at a rally or an encampment or whatever, that its overall message is not just we've got a bit of beef with net and Yahoo. It is anti Israeli. It's anti Jewish. Now if you stay there for days, and that's what an encampment is, right. I don't care whether English is your second language, you only know five words of English. It doesn't matter. You were there and you participated, and you are here only by the good grace of this country allowing you in.
We should have the reserve the right to decide we kick you in or out by any means, any reason we deem necessary. And if we don't like the look at you, I don't care if they say, you know, your eyes are too wonky. You should be kicked out because the government deems you're not someone of sound character to.
Be here, and kick out all the chancellors as well.
I agree, put here on the plane back with them.
Sea.
Well, it's now almost eight months since terrorists launched an attack on Israeli civilians, sparking that war in the Middle East, and of course the shocking antisemitism here in Australia. Earlier this evening, Sky News premiered Never Again the Fight Against Anti Semitism, a documentary hosted by former Australian Treasurer Josh Friedenberg. Now, as part of that documentary, he spoke to a ninety three year old Holocaust survivor Have a.
Look Australia has been wonderful company. I'm telling no, all of a sudden we feel threatened.
And it's not just the younger Jewish generation. Ninety three year old Holocaust survivor Egon Sonoshein lives in Sydney. He's endured the very worst of anti Semitism and he's extremely alarmed at its resurgence.
Do you feel scared?
Absolutely, I'm scared and upset and I never thought it in my lifetime I will be able to experience such a thing.
And behind the documentary, Josh Fredenberger joins us now, Josh, welcome, this was such an important documentary to make, to be with you, It's great to have your company as well. There's a lot to talk about with regards this documentary, but I wanted to ask you about this ninety three year old Holocaust survivor. What was it like talking to him and hearing how scared he is living in Australia in twenty twenty four.
Well, James Egon was inspirational, he was dignified and as you could see, he was eloquent. He summed up the situation facing so many Austrange Jews right now. This was somebody who came from Europe after the horrors of the Holocaust, was warmly embraced by this great country, and now suddenly, into his nineties, he's feeling unsafe and threatened. And that's
just not on. It's a sign, if we needed another sign of a comprehendi failure of leadership in this country, from government, from our institutions, from law enforcement that's seen this explosion of anti Semitism in the last eight months since the tragedy of October the seventh.
Indeed, as I watched Josh, I couldn't help but agree with John Howard and Julia Gillard, both of whom expressed shock at the reaction in Australia to the events of October seven. Here's some of what they had to say.
I'd never hear was like, where the Jews or.
Whatever the word that they were words of hate?
Surely in the modern world, in modern Australia were better than that.
Well, as you just heard Julia Gillard say, we're supposed to be better than that, but clearly our country is not better than that.
So how is our entry changed.
Well, I think it's fair to say everyone's been shocked by the events in Australia since October the seventh, And who would have thought that after the massacre of twelve hundred innocent people in Israel, the burning of bodies, the beheading of people, the rape, the torture people in this country outside our national icon, the Sydney Opera House would be celebrating just hours after those events, and well before Israel had even begun its attempt to rescue its hostages
from Gaza. But this is not an isolated incident. What we saw outside the Opera House we saw also in the Jewish suburb of Corfield where there was a violent demonstration. We've seen the docks of six hundred Jewish creatives, including the well known and regarded, well regarded Debrah Conway. We've seen the campus camps of hate, and we've seen Jewish businesses being boycotted simply because their owners are Jewish. And
that's just not on. So, you know, it's hard to actually explain, James, why this is all happening other than people not having any sense of objectivity and not having any sense of history and the lesson of history from where anti Semitism can lead.
And it kind of begs the question, Josh, how we got to this point and you talked to the Prime Minister of course tonight about his take on all of this. He talked a little bit about the fact that you know, we have to stamp out and call out anti Semitism everywhere we see it.
Here he is we're targeting of the business because it happens to be owned by someone who happens to be Jewish, is in my view, anathema to what Australia represents. It's not who we are and that's why we need to call out anti semitism when we see it.
Now.
The PM said all the right things to you in the doco, but you, and certainly John Howard in the documentary tonight and I and many others have been quite critical of him and his government's response to anti semitism, basically not stemming it since what happened on the steps of the Opera House on October the ninth. It's a
lack of leadership. I suppose having sat down with the Prime Minister and discussed this, do you get the impression that he actually cares and actually wants to do something about it, or is it saying the right words to the right audience.
Well, I don't think he's backing up the words with action. And while I had hope he'd comprehend the gravity of the situation, I'd like to see a lot stronger action from here. We can't just replay what we've seen over the last eight months for the next eight months. We
need a reset from government. We need to see strong, decisive leadership because, as John Howard did say in the documentary, the Prime Minister of the day sets the tone for the country and there have been red lines that have been clearly crossed and the law, even the Prime Minister himself acknowledged, is not being enforced in this country. How can you have people preaching g hat, How can you have the events outside the Opera House and in Corefield
and nobody being charged as a result. That begs the question where where is our law enforcement? Where is our Human Rights Commission? And where is our government when such terrible things have happened and people are living in fear And this is not nineteen thirty four, this is twenty twenty four in Australia, and as Julie Gillard said, we're
much better than that. And there are so many people in this documentary from all walks of life who are ringing the alarm bell, not least of whom was Sir Peter Cosgrove, one of the most distinguished and decorated Australians, who said Hitler would be proud of the violent anti semitism that we're now seeing in Australia. If that's not a warning sign to our leaders that they have to lift their game, I don't know what is.
Let's step into fantasyland for a little minute and just imagine that you're still the Member for ku Yong and you are Prime Minister. If I know, it's a chuckle and I won't ask you the question if you're going to run again, We've been there before. But let's imagine
that you're currently Prime minister. You talk about this reset, the country's reset in terms of anti Semitism, What would you do as leader of the country to stem, and I suppose more importantly, reverse the rise of anti Semitism that we've seen.
Well, firstly, for all those headlines writers for tomorrow, I'm not, you know, the leader of the country, and I'm enjoying life outside of politics. But what I do think we need is both hard and soft power. More of that. When I talk about hard power, it's the law enforcement. I think, you know, we've we've got to see people face the consequences for incitement to violence and to hate. And Caleb, you Liz James have every night been talking
about what's happening on our university campuses. And I have to tell you, I'm so disappointed and by the failure of our university leadership, chancellors and vice chancellors to actually take the moral high ground and to to actually take on the mob which cannot be appeased in these on
these campuses. So I'd like to see people who say the river from the River to the Palestine to be free, I would like to see them pay, to face sanctions, to face the consequences of that statement, because that statement is calling for the abolition of the state of Israel.
And with respect to soft power, I'd like to see more education, because clearly there's a gap, particularly with our young people, in their understanding, with their comprehension, with their knowledge of World War II, of the Holocaust, and indeed of the history of the Middle East. Because Israel's existence did not start in nineteen forty eight. It goes back thousands of years from a Jewish connection to the state of Israel, and you can see that in the western
wall there. And whether it's the use of lawfare in the ICC and the ICJ calling Israel a genocidal state, whether it's the allegation that Israel is apartheid state, or whether it's the notion that Israel as a colonial estate, all of those statements are factually inaccurate and wrong, and
they're all designed to delegitimize the State of Israel. And that is not in the world's interests, and it's certainly not in Australia's interest because our bilateral relationship has been strong and as we're heard in the program, Zionism and believing in the state of Israel is something that a number of very good people believe in.
Josh.
The documentary effectively knits together many of the instances of due hatred in Australia since October seven. You asked the Prime Minister whether we need our insultant laws incitement laws rather to be beefed up given they're proving useless For those viewers at home who.
Didn't hear what he had to say in reply here he.
Is one of my concerns is that there are laws there that I don't think been implemented. Let's reinforce what's there. If people are breaking the law, then they should be prosecuted.
That's why we have laws.
But it's already very obvious these laws simply aren't working. We've seen none of the mob rejoicing on the steps of the Opera House prosecuted, none of the hate preachers prosecuted, none of those responsible for doxing Jewish Australians prosecuted. What do you make of the inaction of our state and federal governments given these laws were literally created for such a time as this.
Well, I think the lack of law enforcement leads has been a green light to the mob, as you say, which cannot be appeased. And they've been emboldened by the inaction of our governments, emboldened by the inaction of law enforcement, emboldened by the inaction of our institutions, including the Human
Rights Commission. And these people cannot be appeased. So we need to see a lot tougher action, because the lesson of history is that bad things happen when good people stay silent and turning the other cheek hoping this will all go away is not good enough. It's certainly not good enough for the many, many Jewish Australians who are feeling unsafe and fearful here in Australia.
Josh, I just got to ask you. Obviously, in the course of filming the documentary, you became quite emotional when we saw tonight that you cried at one person's story. You would be more aware as a member of the Jewish community than many of us exactly how bad things are. But were you in any way almost shocked to discover some of the stories you heard and to learn exactly how bad it was from some other people's perspectives.
Certainly when I spoke to Maggie and Josh who owned this gift shop in Thornbury in Melbourne, and I heard about the death threats against their five year old which followed Josh being dosed he's also a musician, and their shop being vandalized, and the personal trauma and pain and hate that was directed towards them. You know, that is just simply unacceptable and you could only you know, feel their pain when you met with them, and that was what opened the floodgates to the emotion and to the
tears and judging by the response of tonight's documentary. Many many Australians have felt the same way watching what happened, and you also referenced Caleb, you know, talking to the Holocaust survivors. They were so inspirational and they had this inner strength, but they also had fear, and to hear them have fear in their late nineties is again another sign that what has happened in Australia is just not on It's un Australian and it needs to stop.
Josh.
Just going back to the non enforcement of hate speech laws, we've seen police arrest supporters of Israel who have done nothing wrong for their own safety of course, rather than arrest the pro Palestinian protesters. I was at a pro Palestinian rally and I asked a police officer if someone started yelling out killed the Jews, would you arrest them?
And he thought for a moment, he said, I'd check with my superior first, which made me think, is the failure to enforce these laws an issue of fear that authorities are afraid if we start arresting for people for stuff like this. There's just too many people who feel that way, and we're going to have a riot.
On our hands.
Well, I think the best indication of that view is from our university chancellors who have sought to negotiate with these people who have set up these encampments and taken over buildings at Sydney and Melbourne and elsewhere. You know, that is just a sign of weakness, and weakness is provocative and it certainly emboldens the mob. You know, you can't negotiate with these people, and our leaders at our university should not be afraid to use law enforcement when
people are breaking the law. And to listen to Mark Scott, who's the Vice chancell of Sydney University, who simply just doesn't get it to hear him say people can walk around the encampment or this is just an example of free speech and draw an analogy with the Vietnam War protests or protests on nuclear disarmament. That just misses the point all together. And what is more, he also said, you know, bringing in the police in the United States
increased anti Semitism. I mean that's an inversion of the truth of the facts, the realities. The police were brought into the US campuses because they became crimes scenes, because people had taken over buildings violently and this is why we do need to use law enforcement, because the law has been broken and has been broken by an unruly mob who have had the upper hand for too long since October the seventh.
Well, Josh, thanks so much for your time and congratulations again on a brilliant documentary. I highly recommend that you at home, if you've not yet seen it, that you must watch it. So to stream the full documentary and extended interviews from Never Again the Fight Against Anti Semitism, you just need to visit skynews dot com dot Au or download the Sky News Australia app.
Liz. Let's go from that very moving topic, and Josh spoke so well.
He's a gift to our country. Let's go to America. What's happening in the US at.
The moment, all little bit of movement around the Assange case.
President Donald Trump has said.
That should he take office in November, he will seriously consider pardoning Julian Assange and putting an end to the matter altogether. Here he was very recently talking to a podcaster by the name of Tim.
Poole, Will you pardon Julian A sane?
Well, I'm going to talk about that today and we're going to give it very serious consideration.
And here's Albanezi just last week saying, well, that's kind of what should happen.
Yes, our position has been very clear, same position I had is as opposition later I've had as Prime minister, which is enough is enough. There's nothing to be served by the ongoing incarceration of mister Asanche.
Now, this is actually a massive one point eighty by Trump. Back in twenty seventeen, his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who was director of the CIA, was in charge at the time, the CIA was shown to be plotting Assange's abduction, end or assassination. It sounds like some sort of movie, but no, in truth, this did happen. Top CIA officials, now former officials, did up a report detailing these plans and said that they were even asked for sketches or
different scenarios as to how Assange might be assassinated. They were so humiliated, so furious at Assange for exposing their war crimes in Iraq. These CIA officials say that nothing was off the table. So, like I say, this is actually a massive one to eighty.
A lot of people don't remember that.
But Trump was in charge back then, and they seriously wanted to get this guy at any cost whatsoever. So the fact that he is now here, we are quite a few years later saying that actually would seriously consider just calling it quits and letting him go home.
This is a massive turnaround, absolutely is.
And at the end of Trump's term he could have pardoned Assange. He pardons seventy three people, and there was plenty of pressure for him to pardon Assans then and he didn't. So how do you explain the massive turnaround? What's changed? I wonder if this is the thing that's changed. Trump himself is fighting lawfair. He himself is seen as
a victim of injustice. It would be a little bit awkward for him in his current predicament to say no, no, Assange must be extradited to America, he must face the full weight of the law, when so many people, including many of Trump's own supporters, think that the Sange is a victim of law fair. So is that what's going on here?
I think there's also been such a huge passage of time between the alleged crime being committed and now finally getting potentially towards a trial right that. I think the public interest that has just completely evaporated, like what you achieve now by continuing to prosecute Assange is arguably minimal. And we know that his accomplish Chelsea Manning was pardoned by President Obama when he was in power, So there's already there's a very strong argument for that pardon to
be forthcoming. But I cannot let Albanesi get away with this, because can we bring that clipback of Albanesi last week May the twenty first, talking about how he thinks Assans could be freed. We haven't got the clip just yet, but let me know when we've got it. Anyway, So he gets up and says, okay, so I think Assan should be freed, and he has talked about this before the government has given it support. He's the clip.
Our position has been very clear, same position I had is as opposition leader, I've had as Prime minister, which is enough is enough. There's nothing to be served by the ongoing incarceration of mister Assange.
Now that's great, But he then said this about the ic C going after Benjamin Nettinyahu a couple of minutes later.
Well, I don't comment on court processes in Australia, let alone court processes globally, of which Australia is not a party.
Nice try it having your cake and eating it too, Albanesi, He is right, but I mean, come on, make try it on. But there's an absolute argument for Trump to pardon him because it's already been done with Chelsea Manning. And I just don't think people care anymore like no, no, no, I mean, in terms of the hatred that existed for Julian Assange, there was a time when Julian Nossange has always had a core popular group, but there was a time when Julian Nossange was, you know, a persona non
grata when it came to the US. I just don't think that animosity towards Assange exists in the same way that it used to.
Well, I think that's due to the truth coming out.
I mean, they were told that Julian had been instrumental in hacking into the CIA. This was the biggest data breach the CIA has ever seen. It's all Julian's fault, but it was proven in Chelsea Manning's court martial trial that no hacking occurred. Every single document that was leaked was accessible by Chelsea Manning due to the clearance that she had at the time, and this was a leak like any other, simply.
Handed to a journal. And this is what.
The US refers to as the New York Times problem, because they said, if we go after WikiLeaks, where every other major media outlet who are household names in the States have also leaked confidential, top secret, national security type stuff before.
That's what journals do when they get a leak.
And so I think Trump also REALI that even if he is extradited to the.
States, the case.
Now is paper thin compared to what it was back then, before the public knew as much about the case as they do now.
What all of this shows is the power of words from a US president.
That podcast interview was seven seconds, that's all Trump said on the issue, and it's generating headlines tonight all around the world.
And of course, James, though you have previously held forward that assign should be prosecuted, do you think he should still be prosecuted?
Are you trying to get me in trouble with Lizzie.
I'm simply asking you the question.
I do think he should be I think that national security is a massively important thing, which and again that.
Was shown not to be breached. No state secrets were linked. None of our enemies have picked up anything from this leak that they could then use. Otherwise the States wouldn't be prosecuting to the full extent of the law. But they know they can't even point to an instance of well, this information then found its way into the arms of Iraq or Afghanistan and they were able to use it.
No, none of that happens.
I just need to finish the sentence.
I just think that national security is incredibly important. We're going to talk in the papers about twelve hundred Chinese spies on Australian soil. The allegations have not been tested in a court. A scientists spent the better part of a decade or more running from these charges being tested in a court.
It should be tried.
Found because the CIA has plotted it, you wouldn't go on the run.
Better than anyone.
What They actually don't have a problem with democratic nations plotting to assassinate people who steal military secrets and make them public.
I think oka.
Military secrets they're war crimes.
Of course, that is their secrets, but they're dirty secrets. And as I say, ad nauseum, if you don't want to get done for corruption, try not being corrupt. What he leaked was the video footage of civilians being gunned down.
Was no jolly reeson.
That was amongst the information that he leaked.
I just think tried in court. If he's innocent and the cases, as you say, paper thin, then you'll be found not guilty. You have some trust in the American And then.
You have to try every single media outlet, which Julian always called wiki leaks. Then you'd have to try every single one of them for leaking any confidential information that they've got their myths on by other whistleblowers.
Well, if that's the case, sure start with Juliana sangan Oh.
From there, we're going to go to a break while this berates me.
But when we come back, we'll look at what's making news in tomorrow's capers.
Don't go away, welcome back.
Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. We'll start with the Herald's Sun. In fact, a lot of papers are running this story on their front page tomorrow. The news limited papers at least ex operatives alarming warning over Communist regimes espionage activities on our soil. The headline reads,
one two hundred Chinese spies in Australia. About two hundred Chinese spies, including two hundred professionals, are in Australia collecting information, surveilling and harassing targets for the Communist regime, a former operative says. The article goes on to say a former Chinese spy who goes by the name Eric, warned Australia must not stand idle in any potential US China conflict, or he says, quote, it's going to be the start
of Australia's nightmare. Now, Eric, who as the article says, was a former Communist spy, was speaking at a newslimited event and curiously, right before he was about to speak, the Chinese gentleman who was going to be his interpreter quit abruptly, fearing consequences for the event. So that tells you something about the pressure that's being exerted even on Chinese people here in this country. Eric said that there's about one thing, what he called low level spies.
These are people who.
Don't have any sort of alias, but they're just operating in public. Essentially reporting back to Communist officials about activities here in Australia and harassing Chinese locals. And then there's about two hundred spies who've got cover stories people he calls professional spies who are reporting back military secrets and the like.
Are we surprised by this?
No, I mean, a great exclusive by Catherine Birmingham, the fact that this is going on is not a surprise, I don't think. I mean, look, you'd be more surprised if you learned that we didn't have any Chinese spies in this country. But let's not forget that when Anthony Halpinisi went over to China to meet with Jijingping, he talked about the merits of whether or not panned is acute.
And meanwhile, we've got twelve hundred Communist spies running around this country hoovering up secrets that they're sending back to the CCP so the CCP can presumably use them against us. We are dealing with this country as though it is a friend, and it is not our friend. It is in many ways our enemy, and we're stuck in this difficult position of knowing what an important trading partner they
are and how important it is to our economy. But by accepting that, we have to sell ourselves up the creek and almost turn to blind eye to this stuff. Sure we're making lots of money now, but it hurts us in the long run. We lose our sovereignty.
There's certain things that we can do to claw back bits of sovereignty, like getting rid of the Confucius Institutes out of our Australian universities. Can you imagine any Chinese universities allowing there to be like Australia clubs, espousing Western.
Values and all the rest of it. They would never dream of it. The amount of foreign ownership we have in our nation.
You and I being Australian citizens can't buy a dung heap in China because they know what's good for their country and they sin plea wouldn't allow it. The amount of soft power that these guys hold behind the scenes. Our politicians know it and allow it. It's reflected in legislation, whether it's foreign ownership, Confucius institutes. We do play friendly, but we can put our foot down in ways that
wouldn't cost us economically. Like enough with the Confucius Institutes, you don't get to have these clubs in our western universities that espouse c seeps p values and are basically tiny hubs of little spies at our universities.
That's what they use them for. It's just unbelievable. Come on, Australia, wake up before it's too late.
As Eric says to the front page of The Australia, Now, PM Giles stick behind catastrophic direction, ninety nine rapist attacks twenty six women kids.
And keeps his visa.
A serial rapist who assaulted twenty six women and children kept his visa as a result of Andrew Charles's catastrophic push to give more leniency to foreign born criminals with ties to Australia. As the embattled Immigration Minister scrambles to review the dozens of deportations canceled as a result of
his policy. The Australian also reveals in this front page splash that some of the worst child abuse material in the world is held by a rapist who molested four children and a crimical who a criminal who laundered more than five million dollars, both of which also kept their visas.
Where's the line, Where is the line? What is it going to be?
Thirty women before they're deported. How many children does it have to be before these sickos are.
Sent back to where they came from. The fact that.
They haven't already just abolish Direction nine and gone back to the whiteboard is unspeakable.
At this stage. The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. I mean, surely it is staring them in their face that from the beginning of the decision that was made in the High Court and their response to it, they have stuffed this up at every single stage. They didn't have legislation ready to go to reverse the letting out all those people into the community. Then they brought up legislation so they could redetain people. They've used it to
redetain zero people so far. This directive from January last year, which continually has been proven to let out serious offenders who should not be in this country. They should be deported. Whence they came no, we're not going to fix that. I mean, if Andrew Giles was a horse, you take him to the doggers. He is that damn useless and that's what the Prime Minister needs to do with him. Take him out the back and say, mate, go and
play in the sand pit. You're not welcome anymore in the cabinet because the shame and disgrace that he brings upon the government every single day continues to mount. The Prime Minister might be stupid, but he ain't that stupid. Surely, surely he can see with that assertion.
I kind of one of the reasons he's let Giles remain in the position so long is because it's so obvious he should have been sacked months ago that the moment Albanezi now sacks him, the question will be asked, why didn't you do this months ago? Indeed, as you said, ed Mark, how many women need to get raped until Albaneze finally does something. So I think they're just closing their eyes and hoping, please, not another newspaper headline that's this.
Oh, this headline should be the end of him. I should be his funeral there.
But it won't. It won't. You watch, we'll be back tomorrow and there'll probably be another great story on the front of the odds. And thank god they are doing the work to bring all of this to light, because without it we wouldn't know. Let's move on to the cans Post tomorrow, where a curious story a lesson in terror is the headline. Twelve teachers in a remote community in the Gulf of Carpenterria have been given Juris alarms and had heat senses installed in their homes as school
violence escalates. One teacher was hit with a baseball bat. And you know, we talk at nauseum about the youth crime crisis across the country, but particularly in Queensland. But I mean, I imagine you go to work as a teacher, you don't get paid all that much comparatively, and you have to go home at night and worry about whether someone a young kid is going to break into your home and assault you. Could it get any worse?
We don't know from this front page which school it was, but there's a school in a racoon where at the end of first term this year, seventeen out of twenty three teachers resigned, leaving just six teachers left. The school employs ten full time sucuscurity guards. And now the government's offering a nine thousand dollars one off payment plus an extra one hundred and fifty dollars a day to anyone
who will go there and teach. So that gives you some indication as to what's happening in North Queensland.
We're going to go to a break.
When we come back, we know there's a crime crisis, not just in North Queensland, but in America, where police are now arresting alligators.
It's coming up in a moment. Well.
America's response to the crime crisis took an unexpected turn when police in Georgia arrested an alligator that had taken up residence in someone's driveway and well, look, I want to tire it out.
If you don't want to jump on it a bud, respond, then.
That's right.
Business enders Kaylen. Probably not what you expect when you go to the police academy, but I like that the officers stopped for a moment there and they offered kids a pat of the alligator before they took him away.
He would agree, if he were a kid, I would have been running in the other direction. But let's feel he's no Steve Verwin, is he? I mean I wanted to see him get it oh right, you know, I know it was an alligator, not a crocodile. But over the days of stever, h and I reckon. They were just like really great days for Australia, weren't they when he was representing the country all over the world.
Hair hair, one of a kind. Back home now to Victoria, where we.
All know prices are going up even if you're just having a coffee at your local cafe. Consumers are like, we can't really live with a lot more of this.
Well.
A post went viral just yesterday, a young guy sharing the fact that he'd been charged a dollar on top of his seven dollar muffin. So that's eight dollars in total, one dollar for having it heated.
You know how they always ask God, would you like that heated?
If you're buying banana bread or whatever. So this guy, they didn't tell him they were charging him an extra dollar.
Have you seen the price of electricity?
That's cheap?
Only a dollar for thirty seconds in the microph.
Send the bill, Send the bill to Anthony Albanisi in making the.
Weekend surcharge, the public holiday surcharge, inflation driving prices through.
The roof as it is.
And now they ask you a simple question of would you like that heated?
We'll all be thinking twice.
Now, how much are you going to charge me for the honor of not having a dry, crumbly muffin.
We're going to have to start itemizing everything, like how much of the bill is for the dishwashing, how much of the bill is for the wear and tear on the seats that you're sitting on. I mean, next thing, they'll start charging you for emitting carbon dioxide when you're in the cafes. They can target carbage.
Charging you extra for a bit of chit chat at the till.
I mean, come on, what's a story the other day about a restaurant that charged extra for someone to get different cuts because they had dropped it.
On the floor.
No, forget the dollar for reheating the muffin. Seven dollars for a muffin.
I know. Look, if you'd already been the best muffin in the world.
You didn't think that the cost of living crisis was real. Seven dollars muffins, damn well proves it doesn't it.
Well.
On that note, that's it from us, But stick around. Coming up in just a moment is the reata Pennety Show.