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The Late Debate | 23 September

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The ACCC takes Coles and Woolworths to court over allegedly misleading customers about discounted products, a record number of Australians raid their super to pay for medical treatments. Plus, questions over Donald Trump's security detail looms.

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Speaker 1

Lateens General, Welcome to the Late Bay.

Speaker 2

Well, thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.

Speaker 3

James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up an unbelievable Joe Biden gaff where he forgets to introduce the Prime Minister of India though he's seated right behind him.

Speaker 2

Will show you that a little later.

Speaker 3

Plus we'll look at what's making news tomorrow. Queensland police wanting the ability to pursue stolen vehicles, and police in the Northern Territory confirm that they regularly clean homeless indigenous people off the streets before politicians arrive to visit.

Speaker 2

Get to that a little later, But.

Speaker 3

First to the extraordinary claims that US authorities are aware of five assassination teams currently in the United States dedicated to killing Donald Trump, and even more extraordinary, they were aware of these killed teams before last week's second assassination attempt on Trump, and yet did nothing to increase his security. The claims were made over the weekend by Republican Congressman Matt Gates.

Speaker 2

Have listened to what he said.

Speaker 4

I had a senior official from the Department of Homeland Security in my office before the second assassination attempt, saying that what he has assessed is that there are five known assassination teams in the United States, three inspired by other governments, two that are here that are known domestic

assassination teams. And with that, this individual was coming to me concerned that the force protection around President Trump, even prior to that second assassination attempt, was not sufficient for.

Speaker 2

What it needed to be.

Speaker 4

And the coordination at that level, at the dignitary protection level, is like the bare minimum that we have to do to keep our presidents, our presidential candidates safe all there on the trail.

Speaker 3

So Calvin, Liz, this is an extraordinary claim. Asassination teams three helped by foreign governments Iran, Pakistan, and Ukraine, I should point out a Pakistan and Ukraine allies of the United States, and then two other assassination squads that are apparently domestic. So this raises a huge number of questions, Liz, where do we start with this?

Speaker 5

Like we needed further proof that the bodies who are responsible for protecting Donald Trump aren't doing their job. Now you can speculate till ac counts come home, whether this is deliberate or whether this is not but so many questions still remain regarding Matthew Krooks. The first would be assassin and the second assassin. Also, so many question marks remain unanswered.

Speaker 6

Nobody's seen. It's like getting.

Speaker 5

Blood out of a stone, where regardless of whether you're talking to the Special Service, the Secret Service, i should say, or some of the other levels of what is so post be protection around a presidential candidate, it's simply not happening. And these the fact that the Department of Homeland Security

knows about this. Gates is talking about the upper echelons of those who are supposed to be charged with the responsibility of ensuring that guy not only makes it to the election, but long after the election remains alive.

Speaker 6

And yet we just seem to be coming up trumps no pun intended.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, you wouldn't trust the FBI or the Secret Service to boil the billy to CWA meeting right now, would you? Seriously? Given what we've seen over the last couple of months. But I have to say though, it kind of indicates the guy you ought to be voting for.

When foreign governments want to take the guy out, all right, you know, Iran, Ukraine, Pakistan, countries of course, that have all gone through and are going through periods of great oppression themselves or their people going through periods of great oppression. Why would they partend actually not want a guy who would come in and not allow his country to be walked over, not allow his country to be used as a pawn, or to take shed loads of money for

particular political purposes. That's why they want to get rid of him, right, And of course Iran has had beef with Trump for a long time, and we know that the money that has been received from the Biden administration to it like of course they wouldn't want Trump to

be president. And there are these groups that is alleged wandering around the United States, sorry right now, that want to take out the former president potential next president of the United States forty fifth wants to be the forty seventh. And what we just meant to believe, it's all hunky dory, It's all fine.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

Look, I suspect that Joe Biden now would like to see Trump have a little more protection, but we know that Biden ain't really in charge. There are other people who are quite happy to see Trump not have the level of protection he ought to have, because, as I have said before, even if they come out and say, oh, you know, it's political violence, it's very bad. In their heart of hearts, they would actually prefer to see him dead than winning in November again.

Speaker 5

And you've got to respect the gonads on this guy, because Donald Trump knows better than anyone in this world.

Speaker 6

Right now, every single time he.

Speaker 5

Steps foot outside of his home, he is potentially risking his life. But what has he always said, They're not trying to get to me, They're trying to get to you.

Speaker 6

I'm just in the way.

Speaker 5

It's been a great weekend for the Trump campaign because not only has this come out from repmat.

Speaker 6

Gates, but also he seems to be.

Speaker 5

Ever more vindicated when it comes to the charges surrounding January sixth. New revelations reveal that he instructed the Pentagon to keep every every one safe, to deploy the best that they had, including the National Guard, to ensure January six didn't dissolve into violence.

Speaker 6

And he was promptly ignored.

Speaker 5

Committee on House Administration's Subcommittee on Oversight Chairman Barry Loudermilk, responding to these revelations, that is the committee that uncovered this inconvenient truth, says the Pentagon leadership prioritize concerns of optics over their duty to protect lives. President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January sixth, twenty twenty one, worse safe.

It is very concerning that these senior Pentagon officials ignored President's Trump's guidance and misled Congressional leaders to believe they were doing their job when they were not. The DoD's IG report is fundamentally flawed. It does not draw conclusions from the interviews they conduct, but pushes a narrative to keep their hands clean.

Speaker 6

We have many questions for them, and.

Speaker 5

We will continue to dig until we are satisfied the American people know the truth.

Speaker 6

Strength to your arm, louder Milk.

Speaker 5

As of January this year, prosecutors had taken to task over twelve hundred and sixty five riots. Many of them have got jail time. Over four hundred and sixty have gotten jail time. And if you want a glimpse at just how ridiculous some of these sentences are, look up the case of Rebecca Laurence. She's a seventy four year old lady. You should see the photos of her. She's sweet as pie. She was in the Capitol building on January six for just ten minutes. She was praying. She's

been given a twelve month probation. Six months of those she'll be under house arrest with zero zero internet.

Speaker 6

She can't use the internet. She won't be allowed any access, so she can't.

Speaker 5

Tell people what's happening to her, how she's going, or raise money for her defense because she intends to appeal. She's also been given a fine of one hundred and three thousand dollars.

Speaker 6

Her lawyers advise.

Speaker 5

Her that this is the largest misdemeanor fine in American history. That's how over the top they've come when they're prosecuting January six rioters. Now, Trump has said, if elected, he will pardon most of them. Obviously, he's not referring to the ones that injured officers on the day.

Speaker 6

There were one hundred and.

Speaker 5

Forty police people who said that they'd been hurt in some way, shape or farms, some worse than others, obviously, but he's just saying, I recognize that the way in which these people have been prosecuted is utterly.

Speaker 6

Ridiculous and I'll just be parting handing out pardons Leverrit and Zenner.

Speaker 3

So these transcripts revealed that prior to January sixth, Trump went to the Pentagon and said, we're going to have this event.

Speaker 2

We need it to be peaceful.

Speaker 3

And he actually says to them, use the National Guard, use active soldiers, whatever it takes, quote unquote, and he believed they would do that. Then they promptly ignored him because they didn't like the optics of having soldiers guarding

the Capitol building. And then on the day of January sixth, when the riot began and Capitol police felt like we are being overwhelmed here, they said we need the National Guard, and that message was delayed, being passed on for at least two hours until things were well and truly out of control, and only then were they released to try

and get control back. So the whole thing clearly has been staged to make Trump look like someone who is inciting violence and is a threat to democracy, which has then become the entire democratic campaign.

Speaker 1

Correct, And it's not just become the entire democratic campaign, it's become a point on which they have tried to prosecute him. And that is the real point here, right. I mean that they were worried about the optics. Seriously, bugger the optics. The only thing that matters is defending the capital in such a case. But of course it was about the optics, not only the optics of having the National Guard there, but the optics ultimately of Trump. And that is where we have led to here. That

is what they wanted. They wanted something on which they could get him that might actually send him to jail, because he's no in a hush money whatever. This is all just fringe stuff, right. What they really wanted was something on which they could get him, that could say this man is a threat to democracy, that he has tried to run an insurrection, that he's tried to overturn a democratically elected president, etc. Etc. And they have pushed

that as hard as they possibly can. Now anyone who's seen the footage from January sixth at the Capitol, right, you know you've got people walking through, shaking hands with coppers, fist bumps, all sorts of stuff being allowed to shown through the building.

Speaker 7

Riot.

Speaker 5

By the way, they're inside the Capitol building. This is January sixth. Look at these vicious, malicious violence protested.

Speaker 1

It is disgusting.

Speaker 6

Right, I've got a Trump flag. This is unbelieved.

Speaker 1

And there were obviously people there on the day who were violent, but the vast majority were not. And the story you've been continually told is that the work of the minority was the work of the majority. It wasn't. That's how they make this an insurrection as opposed to a few deranged nutters walking into the Capitol building and trying to carry on. But they will stop at nothing to get Donald Trump. By the way, the federal government

will stop at nothing to take your money away. We know they do that via tax all the time, but they also divert what is meant to be should be your take home pay into superannuation because they hope that one day you won't be relying on them for a pension. Well, increasingly people are spending their super money their money, by the way, on things such as health care, because of course they can't afford to pay for the health care

that they desperately need. Numbers that have just been released show the increase that we've seen in people pulling out their super And we'll show you a few graphs here, just general medical expenses. For instance, back in the twenty eighteen nineteen financial year, you know thirty nine thousand applications, twenty six thousand were allowed. That came to three hundred

and eighty nine million. Well you're fast forward to twenty twenty two to twenty three, You've had nearly fifty eight thousand applications, thirty nine and a half thousand of those have been accepted, to a whopping seven hundred and thirty million dollars. It goes on for dental three hundred odd million dollars, up from sixty six million dollars in twenty eighteen nineteen. IVF has gone from thirty six point two million dollars to forty seven point nine million dollars. And look,

it's all good and well. It is your money. You ought to have access to it. But of course the question is why are people all of a sudden dipping into their super in such large quantities, such large amounts of money as well to pay for their medical fees. Well it's twofold. Of course, we're in a cost of living crisis, so people have less savings than they did a few years ago, and they have to go to

things like super to get money. But also if you have tried to get a private health insurance policy recently, you will know what a rip off it is in this country now. The rules under which they operate and the services they are providing, which are regulated by the federal government are terrible. You look at the money that you've got to put up for a private health insurance policy now, and most people, particularly young people, it's cheaper

when you're younger. The older you try to get into, you're.

Speaker 6

Complaining about it.

Speaker 1

Twenty five even I look at it knowing that if I get in the system now, I'm going to be much better off later on. I look at what they want in terms of premiums, going my god, like, I'm not going to use that. And then when I actually got to try and make her claim, nine times out of ten they knock your back. So people are having to go to their super because it's the only thing left.

The government is shooting itself in the foot. If they simply reformed the private health sector, perhaps had a slightly better public health sector, they wouldn't have to go dipping into their superannuation, which of cause is money that will then later be paid to you in the pension because you've got no money.

Speaker 2

In your super exactly.

Speaker 3

And when you talk about the health funds not exactly doing anybody any favors, I had to smile at doctor Rachel David, who's the CEO of Private Healthcare Australia. She's really concerned about people dipping into their super to pay their medical bills because quote unquote this is robbing people of their retirement savings and it's driving up the cost of care for all Australians. Well, if the private health funds weren't ripping everybody off, we wouldn't have to dip

into our super. Interestingly, the three most common procedures or medical facilities that people were after were weight loss, dental fees was a massive one, and IVF. And just on the IVF, I can understand people dipping into their super to pay for IVF because there's no point waiting until you turn sixty no for the IVF treatment.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 5

Well, I've always said that super is such a raught as it is. You talk about what I wrought the private healthcare. I mean, those guys are making big bugs of us, but is our system is so ridiculous and so broken. We are the only country in the world that mandatorially forces people to put almost twelve percent of their income into the stock market, which most people don't have the.

Speaker 6

First clue about stocks. What are you doing with my money? I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5

They're all clipping to the ticket, to the tune of over forty billion dollars a year. They're making money off your money while you can't make money off your money. And this is catastrophic, especially for low income earners, because those people are the ones who could do with it earlier on put it into a down payment on a house.

Speaker 6

And who among.

Speaker 5

Us when we've got that much, talk about a dog in the fight. We're going to make more money. We're going to make our own money work harder for us than these flogs who are making it work very hard for themselves for as long as they've got it. It seems like such a ridiculous system.

Speaker 6

I do not know why we have it.

Speaker 5

New Zealand actually has an incredible system, and it's simply just a pension office and they pay more out in the pension. It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, you all get the same amount. It's just Fair's fair, that's the deal. And yes, it would mean more. We'd have to pay more into government in order to get the pension, but it'd be much fairer pension, which we're constantly told even a dog couldn't live on. Nowadays, it

is a broken system. We've got over fifty five thousand people employed in this superannuation type sector, whereas these countries that have a simple pension have one office with however many people in it, not many, about fifty simply processing the pension four pensioners, as opposed to this raughten system where they're making more of us than we are off our own money.

Speaker 1

The bridge are the same. But very quickly, I'll tell you why we have the superannuation scheme that we do the system we do in this country. It's because Paul Keating set it up as a favor to the unions because instead of having a government run he said to the union as well, you can have your big industry super funds. So they have shared loads of money swimming around in these super funds. Exactly, they get to choose where they invested. They invested in all sorts of weird

different things, like media companies like the New Daily. It was just the biggest hand out the unions ever got.

Speaker 3

All the upset about people withdrawing their super to pay their medical bills. Are people really concerned about people's retirement savings or is it the fact that over the last five years, it's over seven hundred million dollars has been taken out of these super funds to pay for people's dental work and they're just upset they're missing some of their investments.

Speaker 5

And is this surprising in the middle of a cost of living crisis? According to the ABS, food has gone up by seventeen percent since March twenty twenty.

Speaker 6

Let's not get started on petrol.

Speaker 5

Prices, power prices. If you've got a mortgage, thirteen rate rises later, you're gasping for air. Rents have gone up to the tune of almost forty percent in certain areas.

Speaker 6

Is it any wonder.

Speaker 5

People when they're facing a health malady.

Speaker 6

Like this, like, I don't know where else I'm going to get the money. It's got to be my super.

Speaker 5

But speaking of New Zealand's awesome pension fund scheme instead of jolly superannuation, turns out they've done something pretty good. This new government is actually turning out to be far more conservative than the last, although that's not a very.

Speaker 6

High bar, is it.

Speaker 5

With stunning speed, New Zealand's right wing coalition government has repealed, removed, or reversed around a dozen of what it calls race based policies that enshrine the special stat status of Maori people in national life.

Speaker 6

Of course, the Maoris don't like this at all.

Speaker 5

Quoting this article, an analysis by the Ministry of Justice said, the proposal, which is what the government is looking at doing, reduces Indigenous rights to a set of ordinary rights that could be exercised by any group of citizens.

Speaker 8

Yeah, that's called equality. Isn't equality awesome? Don't you love equality? Oh wait, you want special rights. You want superiority, not equality. That's what you're edging for. We see what you're doing.

Speaker 5

Here's Mari mp Terretti Moxin back in May saying, well, this is just tragic. We want more than the average citizens' rights, Thank you very much.

Speaker 9

Well, the point is that a lot of people in our country are very concerned about the policies and the fast track policies of this government that are and appear to be very anti Mardy. And it wouldn't be so bad if this didn't concern marty and in the name of all New Zealanders. But unfortunately this has been something that has continued since the one hundred Day planned the government put in in its infancy when it best first began, and for us that.

Speaker 6

Is just not on.

Speaker 5

You heard it here first, Equal rights is anti Mauri? Where have we heard similar to narrative before? This is kind of funny, right because the amount of times our Australian labor government has told us all the New Zealanders are doing amazing. They've got this treaty, they've started this project, they're building such and such, all in the name of specializing the indigenous peoples there, telling us that we've got

to live up to our neighbor across the ditch. The new government comes in and be like, we've repealed a heap around a dozen we've repealed, removed, reverse, We're just chucking it all out the window. Because this is race based legislation and we're all New Zealanders.

Speaker 3

The claim that this legislation is anti Maory is ironic because the changes are being led by Maori politicians within the coalition. David Seymour of the Act Party in Winston Peters from New Zealand first. They were the ones that pressured Luxton to make these changes. So it's Maori politicians who are leading the charge for equality for everybody.

Speaker 5

Much like al Just Enterprise, Warren More and others who were doing the same during Good War.

Speaker 3

Well suddenly they're not Maori because they believe inequality.

Speaker 1

Some of the things the wrong kind of maury you, you must say, some would say. Anyways, some of the.

Speaker 3

Things they're proposing that they will scrap the rights of Maor's to have a special veto on environmental questions.

Speaker 2

They will help Maori kids in.

Speaker 3

State care to access safety and care over concerns about cultural connection, which is an issue that we face here in Australia with Indigenous affairs. They've allowed the public service to get rid of Maori language, where when you go to New Zealand there's double up on signs everywhere because as a government policy, you had to use Maori language.

Speaker 2

They're getting rid of that.

Speaker 3

They've abolished the Maori Health Authority, saying we just need one health system for everybody, and criticism. If I can go back to this idea that children in state care should be looked after regardless of cultural affiliation, that should not be the first concern. Safety must be the first concern. That's been heavily criticized by maori's and yet that proposal is being led by the Minister for Maori Development, who is himself a Maori. So to call these policies racist

or anti Maori is entirely ideological. It's not based in fact at all, because, as I said, it's key Maori politicians stepping up and saying we just want one country, not a divided country.

Speaker 1

Well, well, what I mean these policies are themselves a form of veiled racism, the idea that you would have a separate health authority, you would have special veto powers for environment whatever. And then the Maoris who criticize other Maoris for saying maybe we should just be one country and all one people and say, well that's anti marry.

That is also a form of racism themselves. And what they are essentially suggesting is a bit like when I think it was Marsha Langton said of Warren Mundine and you enterprised that you know, they were the hired help of the white man, essentially right, That is what they are getting at, that you're just the puppet with the white man's hand up your sleeve, doing what they tell

you to do. And I talked to some expat we mates of mine who go back every now and again, and they can't believe how the country has changed in terms of the control that has been given to Mari people over there. And it's all good and well to say, well, yes, we think that Indigenous people ought to have a certain

level of involvement in governance, decision making whatever. When you go to the point, and these are the stories I've been told that you know, in some areas they essentially have control of the waterways and can decide when you can and cannot fish, and the areas in which you can cannot fish, I know, on the basis of your race as opposed to anything else, that is just not fair.

If you're born in New Zealand, like I'm born in New Zealand, it doesn't matter whether you come from Indian ancestry or Marie ancestry or well whatever, you know, your New Zealander right, surely you should have access to exactly the same provision of services. And thank god there is a government that is actually standing up and saying it. And I'm afraid to wind these things back and let's hope Peter Dutton is paying attention. Of course we've seen him today, so that he'd get rid of our first

nation's ambassador overseas, which ade a bad start. But this sort of stuff has to be wound back.

Speaker 3

Could you imagine five six years ago, if we'd be sitting here saying, chie if only we had a government like New Zealand's.

Speaker 2

That we would have said that miracles do have. Our government is an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 3

And if you needed any proof that our government was intent on suppressing your right to freedom of speech, look no further. Just consider the fact that they've given the public just one week to make submissions on their dystopian miss and disinformation. Bill mat Canavan absolutely nailed it in this tweet. He wrote, the Labor Party is giving people just a week to make a submission on their plans

to censor the Australian people. True to form, they're trying to silence people even before they have the powers to do so. His mat Canavan speaking on Sky News about this legislation and the need for Australians to get in and oppose it while they've got an opportunity to do so.

Speaker 10

There's been a remarkable reaction on social media to some of the things I've been doing and others have been doing on this bill. So we need your help too. It's not just a don't just rely on politicians to save you. That's not a winning strategy in my experience.

Speaker 3

I love that talk about stating the obvious, don't rely on politicians to save you. Thank you, But that is absolutely ridiculous on such controversial legislation. Yes, that the government would roll this out firstly that they've got the hide to suggest this legislation, and then to tell everybody you've got one week to get your submissions in, like they really want.

Speaker 2

To hear from us.

Speaker 5

Oh, and are they running ads? Are they saying, look, this is going to change your way of life forever, so get in quick while you can have your say. I mean, I don't know how many submission processes are only one week long. Like this is ridiculous, because in terms of budding.

Speaker 6

Legislation, which is what bills.

Speaker 5

Are, there's organizations that get involved, they take weeks to put together very comprehensive, detailed submissions, and here you've just thrown it out there being like one week Australian public. And how many Australians do you think are actually following the political process even know about this bill today? Of course you do because you watch Sky News. You've got until the thirtieth of September jump online get it done, because once this is in force, god forbid, it never is.

But like I keep saying about this bill, even if it doesn't get up, the fact that they tried, the fact that they tried, the fact that they wanted this tells you everything that you need to know. And they'll

get it one way or the other. Because, as we've been talking about, even if this bill doesn't get the support that it needs to get up, the States are already taking up the cause and the UN is breathing down our next with all sorts of global surveillance like the pact we discussed just last week.

Speaker 1

This is what governments call consultation, isn't isn't it good that to stay with it? They ask us what we think of sense, usually after they've already made decisions. I did the story last night on the Sunday showed out of at Anley Counsel in Adelaide where they moved their Australia Day ceremonies to January the twenty fifth. Then they did a survey of the residency and the residents sixty percent of whom said no, send it back to Australia Day.

That's what they call consultation. Make the decision, ask questions later. Now, if you are anything like me, you are an avid consumer of the ABC. I can't get enough of their stuff, particularly when I get to open up my computer and read absolute gems like I read today. Here is one for you, best story the ABC has ever published, I promised you. Headline reads from Challenges to Bridgeton. These are TV shows. Bisexuals are often stereotypes on screen. Some shows

flip the script. Well I was drawn in. I said, yes, I want to know about the bisexuals on television, and well, aren't I glad I read it. Listen to this see if you can make any sense of this. It says the world of entertainment feels vehemently bisexual in twenty twenty four, does it? I love you. I'm learning this for the first time. I'm going to the ABC is here to

tell me about this stuff. It goes on with some of the biggest TV shows and films focusing on bi plus characters think sexy tennis romp challengers, and what the hell is a sexy tennis rop anyway?

Speaker 6

All that changes anytime.

Speaker 1

I know doesn't say like Wimbledon to me or that kiss in House of the Dragon. It goes on. But even though bisexual people make up a large part of the queer community, when it comes to the television world, we account for just twenty four percent of LGBTQIA plus rippers. Spare of thought. Not only that bisexual representation has decreased

in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. My god, it says bisexual stories are often limited to bedroom scenes where characters suddenly shed their straight identities in fantastical threesome scenarios and into a murkier unknown territory. I mean, what on earth is the ABC publishing? For heaven's sake, Who gives a rats Whether there are fewer bisexual characters on television in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four than there were in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two.

I couldn't particularly give two hoots. And by the way, I had to look up what a biplus was right understand the concept of bisexual. It means you're into men and you're into women.

Speaker 2

Wait wait, wait, are you saying there's only two genders?

Speaker 6

Now, this is what I'm getting to.

Speaker 1

This is what I'm getting to because by of course suggests to buy no re men and women. Bi plus apparently came into being in about twenty seventeen because they decided that they needed a term that related to people who were attracted to more than one gender, but those genders weren't necessarily male and female, so they came up with biplus. Now I can't really understand that because they kept the by bit the binary bit and then said, but it includes all these other genders anywhere.

Speaker 5

Well, you're attracted to anyone in everyone you are belin.

Speaker 3

This article was published by the ABC because I don't know if you're aware of this, but we've got a couple of hours left to celebrate. Today is Bisexual Visibility Day.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 3

I thought that meant you've got to watch out for bisexuals crossing the road because they can come from literally any direction they go each way, But apparently it's to celebrate the fact that we need more bisexuals represented in the media and so on. I'm just wondering when will the ABC do a story on Heterosexual Visibility Day and having heterosexuals represented vehemently presented.

Speaker 2

In the media.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your daily reminder that if you need to normalize something, maybe it's not normal. Also, how much more do they want because LGBTQ plus is only getting longer. The buys already have twenty four percent. That seems like more than their fair share.

Speaker 1

Well, we've just got to be vehement about this stuff. Speaking of vehement, I vehemently believe that every time someone says, you know, Sydney is an international city or Melbourne is an international city, that they must never have left this country. You go to the big cities around the world. Look the mean think of New York City, the city that

doesn't sleep. And we here like to think, in our country of twenty seven million, as we hit last year, that we have some of the greatest cities in the world. And yes, they are great to live in, but let's be honest, if you try to go anywhere after ten pm, you don't have much luck finding anything. And in the modern world, we're moving to a twenty four hour world.

Number of shift workers is increasing by the day, and these people are realizing, as are now governments that you know, they can't get a meal during the night, they can't get a coffee during the night, They've got no public transport during the night. So how do we possibly expect as a country that we're going to be able to operate on the world stage if we don't service these people. The new South Wales government thankfully is waking up to this.

They last year appointed a twenty four hour Economy Commissioner. They also have a nighttime economy Minister. Well, the twenty four hour Economy Commissioner, Michael rod Riggers has come out and look, bear with me for a second here because some of this language is a bit all over the shop, but you'll get the gist of what he's say. He says to be a world class state that provides equity

of amenity to its citizens. I don't know why public service people talking public service speak, but I'll persist equity of amenity to its citizens irrespective of the hours they choose or are compelled to work. We need to optimize our regulatory system and the way the many participants in that ecosystem operate. We're twenty four our economy thinking in mind. Now, yes it sounds like a bunch of gobbledygoog, but I'll

translated for you. What he is saying is that we should allow businesses to operate twenty four to seven if they want to. And to that, I say, ha lolula. Remove the regulations and the stipulations that stop businesses from being able to conduct business when they want to. And we see this in terms of shop trading out. I mean for him to say, I'm from South Australia, where until about five minutes ago a shop could not open

until eleven am on a Sunday. Right, that is how far back we were going, so everyone could go to church on Sunday. City of churches layups unbelievable, right, But we should just de regulate the whole market and say, look, if you want to open twenty four hours a day, if you want to open between the hours of ten

pm and two go for your life. Market will ultimately decide if they can't get workers, or they can't get people who actually go in the shop to make it viable being open, then they simply won't open.

Speaker 2

So what you've said makes perfect sense. Simple, just do it.

Speaker 3

And so I went to the government's twenty four hour Economy strategy.

Speaker 2

Just don't figure. They've got a minister out, they've got a commissioner.

Speaker 3

They've even got a strategy you can download online. What you've described is very simple. But listen to I go online, I start reading their strategy because they're going to deregulate things, are going to free up the market.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 3

It begins with this enriching the twenty four hour economy with First Nations storytelling. There is an opportunity for the twenty four hour economy to acknowledge Indigenous storytelling within our time landscapes. It's a responsibility of governments and business to ensure Indigenous stories are told as we open up the twenty four hour economy. That's the introduction to their strategy.

So everything you've said makes sense. But do you reckon they're going to get around to doing this or do you reckon they'll be completely distracted with a whole bunch of woke ideology. And all we want is the ability to buy coffee at three am on their way home.

Speaker 1

Give me freedom.

Speaker 2

I want you.

Speaker 6

I'm so excited. I live in New South Wales.

Speaker 5

Tell me about your plan A blitz krieg of utter words, salad, nonsense.

Speaker 6

Thank you New South Wales Parliament. Well done.

Speaker 5

I'm surprised, like you are, especially if you live in New South Wales, that we even have a nighttime economy. Minister John Graham never heard of you, but this sounds exciting, He says.

Speaker 11

Our goal is to highlight our state as a safe and exciting nighttime destination, not just for people looking for a great night out, but for the people working hard to keep our state running at night.

Speaker 6

Okay, so how are you going to do that?

Speaker 5

Conveniently leaves that part out Everyone living in Sydney knows.

Speaker 6

Most people don't even know that you ditch.

Speaker 5

The lockout laws because if you're out on a Saturday night, it feels like they're still in place. It's like ten pm, last call for drinks, twelve pm if you're lucky, twelve am if you're lucky.

Speaker 1

Pm. I'm packing up and going to another country that's not allowed.

Speaker 5

No, but it's hard to find a place, even on a Friday or Saturday night that is open longer than that.

Speaker 6

It's nonsense.

Speaker 3

Here you go, hey, before we go to a break, Liz, I don't know if you'll be interested in this, but Caleb, you will be anxious to.

Speaker 2

Know breaking news.

Speaker 3

The Brownlow Medal has been decided and Patrick Cripps of the Carlton Football he's the captain. He is the twenty twenty four Brownlow medallists.

Speaker 2

So there you go.

Speaker 3

They GWS not interested in the finals, but their captain is the winner of the Charlie. We're going to go to a break. When we come back, we look at what else is making news tomorrow.

Speaker 2

Welcome back.

Speaker 3

Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. We'll start with the Adelaide Advertiser, which have got a story being covered by most of the papers. As you could imagine, prices are not down down, it's the headline. Consumer Watchdog says Coals and Woolies discounts on hundreds of grocery items

are illusionary. Coals and Woolworth's are facing blockbuster legal action, accused of promoting fake discounts on hundreds of items, the prices of which that actually increased before the special offers. The article goes on to explain how the discounted prices were lower than the price rises, but often higher than the original prices. Just a couple of months earlier. Now Coals have said that they will defend the A Triple C action in court, while Woolies have taken a more

circumspect approach. They said they're going to look into these allegations.

Speaker 1

Are we really that surprised, No, it's as plain as the nose on your face. I think anyone who's been a super packet recently could tell you that I'm glad to see the A Triple C's actually doing something about it, though, because you know, we often say, look, the market should

be as free as possible. But when you see obvious cases of price gouging and what, in some cases you know, appears to be almost collusionary behavior between big companies, whether it be supermarkets or petrol companies or whatever, you know, the prices all go up and down at the same time, and you get, dang on, is there something going on here? Are they perhaps working in tandem? They deserve to be looked into, and I hope the HC puts them through

the ringer. I know that they operate on reasonably low profit margins. The idea that the supermarkets you know, price gouging on a grand scale is not correct, as is often said. But where there are obvious cases where they've jacked up the price of a product and then tried to sell it back to you at a discounted rate. I mean, come on, we can see through it.

Speaker 5

But the big question is the one that you just raise their How do they both know to pull the exact same scam at the exact same time? And, as Senator Malcolm Rod raised today, could it be because they have the same multinational corporate owners Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street Look it up, those are the guys who actually own our Australian not really duopoly. To the front page of the cans Post now calls for chase policy overhaul after group hunts thieves.

Speaker 6

In pursuit of change.

Speaker 5

The big splash reads canned civilians hunting down their mates second stolen car in six weeks have brought into focused police calls for an urgent review of a pursuit policy that's leaving officers powerless and pushing victims to take matters into their own hands to locate the vehicles. The article goes on to stay that last Thursday, an old mate was at his work when a woman snuck in and

stole his recently bought Toyota High Luks. Six weeks earlier, the farmer had lost his miss in the Vara, which was also stolen while he was sleeping. So can you blame these civilians to just go, you know what, zob there, so you guys might never get my property back. This reminds me of the mum who managed to actually successfully track down the people who had stolen her son's.

Speaker 6

Motorbike months ago.

Speaker 5

But there was this coalition of mums that got together and hunted the guy down and found the bike.

Speaker 6

Well, maybe it is more effective.

Speaker 2

I sympathized.

Speaker 3

When we lived in towns Well, twice we had incidents. One was I was working in the middle of the night to find a group of six guys backing my car out of the driveway, at which point I yelled out the window and thank god they dropped everything in

ran because I had nothing after OI. That was But then the second occasion, I hear a man's voice in our house in the middle of the night, and so I jump up, I go, I opened the bedroom door and there's a police officer shining a light, stretened my face and he says police, to which my son calls from his bedroom.

Speaker 2

Has Daddy done something? Wrong. Our car had been taken from our driveway.

Speaker 3

They'd spotted it down the road and it's it's a huge frustration for people in North Queensland because cars are being stolen all the time.

Speaker 2

Police aren't allowed.

Speaker 3

To pursue and so in township we had a Facebook group that was started by people who would go looking around the neighborhood trying to find people stolen cars, and often that was more effective than the police.

Speaker 1

So can I just name it? How did the police officer get into your house?

Speaker 3

The door was open because people had broken into our home. It was already hole in the trees, taken the car. Police saw the car got dole in the keys.

Speaker 2

I think.

Speaker 1

If they stole that's a hell of an effort. All I can well, actually I could say a couple of things. One is that you can't blame these people. I mean, for Heaven's sake, Look, the bloke was lucky. You got to upgrade from a Nissa Nevara to a Toyota Ilax, but the Dilucs barely lasted six weeks and it was gone again. You can't blame these people when when there is inaction from the police, and that's not necessarily always

the police has followed. I mean, they're so overrun with these bloody cases at the moment that they can't possibly keep on top of them. But you can't blame them when they're not seeing any action, you know, wanting to go after them themselves. But I have to say that I'm glad the coppers have never busted into my joint in the middle of the night because I sleep in the nutty and if I jumped up out of the why if I jumped.

Speaker 5

Door, well, you.

Speaker 1

Know, I'm just saying that it put me in a precarious position. I might if I move to Townsville or cans I promise you I'll start wearing pajamas. Let's go to the Australian tomorrow where a serious story police cleaned Aboriginal people off the streets before VIP visits.

Speaker 2

Can you believe it?

Speaker 1

Actually you can. Aboriginal police officers have confirmed a practice long denied by the Northern Territory Police Force of cleaning up the streets quote unquote removing homeless Indigenous people from public areas in dwe and Alla Springs when political leaders such as Anthony Albanezi visit the cities and you know, we have obviously previously criticized Kamala Harris as Vice president when she was the borders are going down to the border, and they went through and moved on all of the

illegals hanging around the border, so it looked good when she got there. Well, they're doing exactly the same thing in this country. The situation we know with Aboriginal people, whether they be using substances such as fuel or glue or alcohol or whatever, and the crime that comes along with it is a massive problem in the Northern territory.

And instead of showing the reality of that to political leaders or the rest of the country, when political leaders moved through places like Darwin on their television screens, we'll just sweep that over there for the minute, put them away for the night in the cells or whatever it might be, and then when albows come through or anyone else of any other political persuasion for that matter, we'll just let them back out on the street again. Forget about the problem actually being.

Speaker 2

And you nailed it. That's what it is.

Speaker 3

That they don't want national television coverage and not do politicians want to be asked an awkward question because there's a whole lot of stuff happening behind them on the TV cameras so cynical, but it happens.

Speaker 2

All around the world.

Speaker 3

I mean they do it in New York when the United Nations meets and so on.

Speaker 1

Indeed, and some sad news today before we go to the break. Champion jumps horse Karazi has died peacefully today at Karazi Park, which is of course named for him. Is the only Australian jumps horse to have made it into the Australian Hall of Fame Racing Hall of Fame, I should say. He won the naki Ama Grand Jump in Japan three years in a row, which until a

couple of years ago was a record. So my thoughts go out to his trainer, Eric Musgrove and all of his staff, particularly Belinda Simpson who was his groom over in Japan, and the rest of the connections. He was a great champion jumps horse in this country and we'll probably never see another unlike it.

Speaker 2

And I know how much you love your jumps.

Speaker 3

We're going to go to a break stick around because you've got to see the latest Joe Biden gaff where he forgets to introduce the Prime.

Speaker 2

Minister sitting right behind him. It's coming up in just a moment. Welcome back.

Speaker 1

Well.

Speaker 3

When jd Vance was announced as Donald Trump's running mate, the Democrats had to work out how are we going to attack him?

Speaker 2

And they came up with a line. They said jd Vance is weird.

Speaker 3

And they repeated this ad nauseum while a reporter from Turning Point USA decided to go out on the street and interview Democrat voters as to why they believed conservatives are so weird, and they found a Democrat voter.

Speaker 2

With absolutely no sense of self awareness.

Speaker 1

What is something weird about conservatives?

Speaker 7

There is a almost a cultish vibe. I feel the way they operate within themselves. They refuse to listen to outside people. You know, they're refusing to learn, essentially. I think that is a large part of it.

Speaker 3

Of all the people talk about weirdness and cultish behavior, I would never have thought that guy would be the one to criticize talk about projection.

Speaker 1

I mean, for heaven's sake, people like that. I know you can't actually, but people like that shouldn't be allowed to vote. I mean they should be sectioned off somewhere. Surely, if you're wronging around public with that sort of face makeup on. It's like facial tattoos. Like those people should just be sent to the gulag, never to be seen again.

Speaker 6

But see, now, you're just proving him right.

Speaker 5

That's exactly what conservative they don't want to hear outside opinion.

Speaker 6

They just want everybody else to go away. You've just proved him right.

Speaker 1

I'm more than happy to hear other people's opinions. I just prefer that they come from people who don't have their face done up like the Joker. I don't know. I think he.

Speaker 6

Looks like a band member from Kiss. I think that's what it was going. Kenny nailed us so bad.

Speaker 1

Speaking is so bad. Even though Joe Barden, of course, is no longer the Democratic candidate for president, he is still actually the president of the United States. And you might ask the question, Will if he's not log, he's not there enough to be the candidate, how could he

possibly still be running the country. Well, not a day goes by where we're not reminded of this in some way, including over the weekend where world leaders, including our Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi, were in the US for a meeting of the Quad and of course, India is also involved in the quad, so it was up to mister Biden to introduce the Prime Minister of India or Indra Modi at a press conference, and he couldn't even manage that.

Speaker 2

I want to thank you all for being here, and now who am I introducing next?

Speaker 12

Who's next, distinguished guests, the Prime Minister of the Republic of India.

Speaker 1

Who's next? I mean, it's like here in the tech shop line at school, isn't it? Who's next? Look, I've done a lot of pantomime. All I can say to Joe Biden is he's behind you. I mean, for heaven could he not even know that?

Speaker 3

And Anthony Albaneze came back and assured us, all, no, no, he's in fine force. Really well, it's from us stick around. Coming up is the Reader Penney Show.

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